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Commentaire de Kamylla

D'après les commentaires sur la version anglaise :

Les adds du boss vont chacun, avant chaque rappel vers le boss, poser un stack "Voile crépusculaire" sur la dernière personne qu'ils auront en cible, s'il est au corps-à-corps.

Le mieux à faire est que chaque DPS (surtout caster / distant) prenne un add et le kit, de façon à ce que le débuff soit réparti sur 4 joueurs plutôt que sur un seul (le tank), voire même sur personne si personne n'est touché au CàC.

Bon jeu =)

Commentaire de alioraa

Réalisé ce jour avec mage feu seul en kiting. A noter que le ralentissement de ma vague explosive n'a marché que 2 fois au début, ensuite l'aoe dépopait instantanément. Donc ensuite on gère à la nova et au blink.

Si le heal dispell magie, le kiting se fait aisément seul, car celui-ci dispell quand on est ralenti si on prend un débuff coup de tonnerre et que les adds sont proches.

Aucune difficulté rencontrée, le HF a même été réalisé involontairement, mais en effet à chaque changement de place je faisais de l'aoe pour m'assurer de récupérer immédiatement tous les adds.

Commentaire de 1428682

En moine tank, j'ai posé ma statue d'aggro.
Puis ai DPS le boss en faisant des AOE au maximum.

Commentaire de BULM4

Hello,

Alors soit il fait réussir à le one shot pour éviter qu'il mette en route les 3 adds. Soit kiter les adds sans chopper le débuf puis le dépop lui.
Cette deuxième solution a fonctionné pour moi.

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Commentaire de Kalx

Ascendant Lord Obsidius is the final boss of Blackrock Caverns.
Crepuscular Veil is the ability used by the adds which reduce healing received by 24% each stack, making it hard to be tanked by the main tank.

The best strategy for this achievement is having the DPS'ers "rotate" the "tanking" of the adds, as Crepuscular Veil only lasts 4 seconds, it will be enough to have the stacks drop before you get them back to the first of the rotation.

Be aware that during the fight, Obsidius will switch places with one of the adds, so have the tank ready to switch to that add and the player stacking the debuff pick up where the boss was.

Commentaire de 20394

Ascendant Lord Obsidius is found at the end of Blackrock Caverns along with 3 'shadows' of himself. When engaged, his 3 shadows will chase their targets around while channeling Crepuscular Veil onto them. Think of his shadows as you would the shadow orbs from the Prince encounter in ICC - the last person to perform a hostile act against them will be targeted and chased. However, the adds will channel onto ANYONE who is within range of them, so they need to be kited around the room while the rest of your group defeats Obsidius.

This means that a ranged caster or hunter is ideally suited for this thankless task. If you do not have a ranged damage dealer, then you can use a FoKing Rogue with Crippling Poison or a Warrior spamming Piercing Howl to snare the adds and maintain aggro. Having a frost trap or earth bind totem will help as well. Every 33%, Obsidius will change places with one of his shadows. The tank should quickly pick Obsidius back up while the kiter quickly picks up the new shadow. Repeat this twice and you will earn this achievement.

Commentaire de realillusion

The 3 adds will channel a beam (not interruptable and while moving) that stacks the relevant debuff on anyone in melee range, even if that person is not their current target. They don't attack highest threat, instead attacking the most recent threat. Adds can be snared, but not rooted or crowd controlled.

One person needs to be assigned to kiting and cannot be near the adds. The kite path must not take the adds through the group.

Our group stacked on the boss. We had a moonkin kiting, spamming moonfire for super cheap (also keeping dots on the boss when possible). We kited in a _large_ circle around the boss, 30ish yards to either side. A warrior with piercing howl would run out every so often and snare them. The rest is just making sure the boss is taunted after he swaps and the adds get grouped up again. Body & Soul from a holy priest (potentially Leap of Faith from any priest) can help your team catch up.

The boss has a thunderclap that snares movement; this must be dispelled if it lands on your kiter, but it can be outranged. Don't bother dispelling it from others. Do dispell Twilight Corruption as this is cheaper than healing the dot.

Tracking this achieve will let you know if it fails. The text will turn red upon failure.

Finally, the boss hits like air. A dps could swap gear and stances and easily tank him. Done correctly, this fight requires almost no healing.

Commentaire de Najtrok

This is so freakin' easy. The adds ARE rootable (at least for my moonkin-insta-roots) and you may as well use Frost Nova to keep them in place.
Additionally, mark the adds so you can identify them after a swap.

Kite Combo was Frost Mage (Add 1+2) and Moonkin (Add 3). As a Moonkin I could almost completely nuke instead of kiting, since my add was rooted.

Additionally: keep any pets away, they count and turn on your achievment tracker as it shows you if it failed.

Commentaire de SuperBurritoz

Put away all pets, they will ruin it for you. We had a mage elemental out that wrecked it for us.

Commentaire de Faradays

just easily kited this as a survival hunter with entrapment.

spam ice trap and snake trap for slowing and a full 4 seconds aoe root effect. keep using multi shot to maintain threat.

after the boss died i got a "achievement what" from my group, very entertaining.

Commentaire de Iceleaf

Those who wonder why there is dwarf icon on this achievement its simply because early on beta Ascendant Lord Obsidius and its adds had iron dwarf skin so the achievement icon kinda stayed as dwarf.

Commentaire de 745188

A frost mage can easily kite all three of the assistants by speccing into Improved Cone of Cold. Between Cone of Cold, Frost Nova, and the water elemental's Freeze ability, the mage will rarely get touched. All it takes to pick up an assistant once Obsidius transfers himself is an Ice Lance. To top it off, he can throw random Frostfire bolts and Deep Freeze casts at the boss that he gets from procs.

I am dual-specced PvE fire and PvP frost, and merely swapped over to my 2nd spec to do this fight.

Commentaire de 745366

Quite easy to do with a shaman. (Preferably an enhancement shaman). Get initial aggro on the adds, drop Earthbind and run laps around the adds in the back with instant Ghost Wolf. Can decurse yourself and pop Shamanistic Rage if you get hit with the thunderclap. Toss out Unleash Elements to pick up the 3rd add when he switches. Would only recommend it if your group isn't lacking in dps, as it could potentially drag out the fight too long without your added dps on the boss.

Commentaire de Binkles

Easiest way to do this is to have a druid in the raid. Have the druid (any spec, even main tank) pop Nature's Grace, wait until 10-15seconds are left on buff, then get aggro on all three adds. Wait until NG procs on all three adds then run away. When NG comes off cooldown, use it again (even if adds are still rooted). They'll hit you before the buff wears off. Rinse and repeat.

Using this strat, all three adds are permanently rooted, by one single player, with very little kiting involved. It also allows all three DPS to be engaged the whole fight instead of losing one due to kiting.

Commentaire de 16212

Easily done as a fire mage. Pull by LBing all 3 adds, and kite them to the entrance of beauty’s room. When they get close, blast wave them, then blink through them, and run back to the boss's spawn. Scorch and LB the one that switches with the boss, then blast wave and blink through again. Use frost nova and ice block if you get into trouble.

The adds seem to be rootable and snareable, but they cannot be stunned, disoriented, or encased (ring of frost, hunter trap, ect)

Commentaire de 310554

Frost Mages doing the kiting: make sure your pet DOES NOT run through the adds, learned that the hard way...

Commentaire de 752571

This achievement is really easy to get with a Frost Mage in your group who knows how to play frost, just get your pet out and put it on passive and then start the fight. Use your pet's Freeze and then use your Frost Nova and then Cone of Cold. Really really easy achievement.

Commentaire de 54693

Doable with a rogue as well, at least if the rogue is Mut spec. Crippling poison on both weapons and thrown means you can spam FoK when one of the adds gets close and usually slow it down before it gets in range to use Crepuscular Veil, or if it gets in range only one or two stacks.

The reason this works better as assassination rogue is because of talents that let you apply melee weapon poisons on FoK (much higher chance to apply crippling poison) as well as extra run speed, however other rogue specs may be able to do it.

Commentaire de 777428

Frost Death Knight kiting using Howling Blast with Chillblains - achievement nicely done. Just run and recast HB from safe 30 yard range.

Commentaire de 791206

Did this today as a Survival Hunter.

I suppose it's doable by one person, but any extra CC is a huge help. Controlling the adds isn't too bad, but when the boss trades places with 1 add you might get hit by a Thunderclap which can cause you to get hit by adds.

Make sure you're using Frost Trap and Snake Trap on cooldown. Spec into Entrapment so that both traps will stun the adds for 4 secs when they're triggered. Because of the way the adds work (they hit the last thing that hit them), your snakes will pull aggro on them which gives you some time.

Instruct the group to resist cleaves on the boss when he's switching with an add. If they hit the add that takes the boss' place it's difficult to pull him off in time to prevent 4 stacks.

I wanted to try using a Turtle with Thunderclap or something to pull the aggro on the adds, but I didn't want to risk him getting stacks of the debuff and it breaking the achievement.

Commentaire de 681419

Did this achievement on my Shadow Priest.
Assuming the boss is tanked in the middle, you can throw up Inner Will (10% movement increase) and kite the adds around the boss in a circle. Just in-case you get the thunderclap debuff on you, you can always cleanse it yourself. I got the debuff to 2 stacks at max, for not cleansing thunderclap soon enough.

Commentaire de 798407

Just got this achievy, using a Warrior tanking the boss. Myself(surv hunter) and a DK switched off kiting the adds everytime the Boss tookover one of the adds bodies. A good tip is to always have a frost trap down even when the DK was kiting.

Good luck!

Commentaire de 585478

I do not have this achievement yet, but I was talking to my guild's tank and he said a shaman healer pug just went into ghost wolf and kited the adds around, and because my tank is quite geared and the boss does not hit hard he didn't need any heals the entire fight.

Commentaire de 817539

This achievement is extremely easy if you have a frost mage in the party.

As a frost mage, all I needed to do was to chain freeze the mobs full time. Start off by:

1) Setting the pet on passive. You do not want your pet to get the debuff.
2) Aggro the adds. Have the tank pick up the boss off you.
3) Use your Water Elemental's nova on all three adds.
4) Once the nova breaks, wait for them to come to you( judge your distance) and Cone of Cold. You should've talented
5) Once Cone of Cold breaks, wait for them to come to you and Frost Nova. You should blink after this action because the mobs will hit you with the debuff and you do not want it to add up.
6) Once the boss switch places with the adds, Ice Lance the add to grab aggro off the tank. The tank should be taunting the boss off you.
7) Stay away from the boss and keep the adds away from the party.
8) Rinse and repeat.

NOTE: Try to keep the adds away from the party or explain to your party members beforehand to not attack the adds at all during the entire fight and try to stay away from them at all times.
HINT: and Glyphe carbonisé will really help in this fight. If you're an engineer, Nitro-survolteurs will help as well.

The easiest achievement for a frost mage, hands down.

Commentaire de Jaromor

Commentaire de extracrispy

Quite easily solo kited as a warlock that has Curse of Exhaustion. Have warlock kite in a circle with CoE up and corruption for sure aggro on all 3 adds, while party stacks on boss off to the side. Make sure warlock or person kiting isn't in range of the Thunderclap as it can mess up the ach, but with good positioning of teleport it can be a moot point, as well as this debuff is dispellable! Not very tricky when the adds switch as the dots stay on all three no matter which the boss switches to. Just have tank taunt boss back to group stack. Also having the ach on tracked is a sure way to know if you have failed or not. Hope this helps!

Commentaire de 904796

Couldn't a dps (maybe the lowest one) shoot the adds and run up the dungeon and as far as they can go? Assuming the mobs are killed. Or would the boss still switch with a minion regardless of out of range or out of sight?

Commentaire de kgurnhill

Didnt read through all the comments tbh, but if your having trouble with this achievement, you can "ping-pong" the adds between 2 players.
We used 2 hunters to bounce the adds between!

Survival Hunter - Me - DPS
Marksmanship Hunter - DPS
Feral Druid - Tank
Holy Paladin - Healer
Enhancement Shaman - DPS

Me and the other hunter stood relatively far apart, but keeping each other in a certain range, then we each planted a Frost Trap (Slowing Trap) between us (Alternated for CDs) and we Multi-shotted the adds, so they would attack us, but move through the Frost, giving the other hunter enough time to do some damage to the boss, then we would swap, placing another Frost Trap while, just before the other ran out!

Achievement Earned: Ascendant Descending!

Remember, this is just how we did it, as we were having problems at first, who knows, maybe it will help, but then again it may not... this was posted just to help, not to say "this is how you SHOULD do it!"

Commentaire de scpovey

THEY CAN BE ROOTED.

Commentaire de Varzak

I wiped serval times on this.

Have on party member kite all three shadows around the room. If he gets hit 4 times you lose the achievement. Frost mages, hunters, and natures grasp druids work great.

Good luck!

Commentaire de 1056373

Best to have a full group (Tank +1) (Healer +1) (DPS +3) Have a ranged player like a hunter or mage pull the boss and his 3 gaurds, tank should then use a taunt to pull the boss off of the ranged player. You should first mark each of the gaurds with a brightly colored marker to make sure you dont lose one of them, the ranged player should kite them throughout the room and use rooting spells to slow them down. If they touch you the stacks start. and Jsuk they walk faster than average, as if they have aspects of the pack. So you may want to try using a hunter as a kiter.

Commentaire de Kuja

Solo'd this achievement by kiting them around the room. Didn't get even one stack, but I wasn't awarded the achievement either. Seems like you either have to have more than one player in a group, or pets aren't allowed to get stacks either.

Commentaire de Dopamine7

This can be done solo.
Just completed this as 85 Disc Priest.
A few tidbits:
-void tendrils will root the 3 adds, but the tendril gets 4 stacks of Crepuscular Veil causing you to fail the achievement
-boss will despawn once you get to the top of the ridge overlooking the forge (where Karsh Steelbender is)
-you can easily outrun the adds between inner will and body and soul. boss can slow you with a thunderclap (dispellable), a daze, and a stun. tricky part is making sure you put enough distance between you and the adds when he does one of those. otherwise, just keep running laps from top to bottom keeping sw:p, holy fire and penance up

Commentaire de laurlaur199

Duo'd with a warlock and resto druid. I just ran along the outside in cat form moonfiring when he switched places with one, warlocked nuked the boss. Only took a few minutes. Good luck!

Commentaire de 778466

Just soloed it as a frost dk.

Make sure you have the chillblains talent, then just save your howling blasts for the three adds. You should be able to kite around in a big circle while keeping the adds snared and using obliterate/frost strike on the boss to kill him.

Having a healing potion and using lichborne/deathcoil was helpful, as this boss still does a decent bit of damage to a dps class.

Commentaire de PanzersSkywall

90 Surv Hunter / 542 iLevel

Obviously very easy at this level of gear. I failed previously (weeks ago) first time I tried due to pet getting stacks. If you're BM, just dismiss pet and go to Surv or MM spec.

Commentaire de alterecho

Solo'd this as a 90 Blood Dk. Used and used the chains of ice to root the adds in place. Be sure to clear the room so you can kite the boss all around the room.

Commentaire de 1049989

easily can be soloed rogue at 5x.
pick toss, deadly throw and burst talents and run around the room.
Cloak of shadows removes the debuff.

Commentaire de omglaserzpewpew

I was able to pull this off solo with my paladin. I attempted to solo as prot first, but the multiple slows and stuns make this very difficult.

I switched to Holy and was able to pull it off due to being able to cleanse Coup de tonnerre. Since you can cast Judgement without facing the target, I was simply able to run in circles and cast Judgement behind me. It took a few minutes, but was quite simple.

Commentaire de kardanis

I wouldn't underestimate this fight for lvl 90. The matter is not only a DPS for quicker boss kill but the ability to kite in circles. My Mage 556 ilvl started with Fire spec in favor to dot the boss and kill him faster. But then I had to switch to Frost for better CC and won.
Some tips to make your mage life easier:
- macro /tar Ascendant Lord to be able to target him when he is switching with one of the adds
- track your achievement, it shows if it failed.
- Put your Ele on passive and leave by the lava pool. You can use extra Freeze when you are in range. If you have to Iceblock dismiss your pet and summon back. Otherwise the mobs run straight to it and the achievement can be put in risk. When the pet is re-summoned it stays back by the lava.
- Darkwater Potion/Swiftness Potion just in case you get stuck when the boss is switching the place with one of his minions
- Seems like Ring of Frost not working on the adds:(
- PVP trinket
- Blazing Speed
- use Blink wisely:)))

Commentaire de bonedriver

Void Tendrils will cause a fail... just found that out...

Commentaire de Silvansaria

Got this today - solo.

90 BM Hunter.

I didn't feel like "running" the whole dungeon - so I stealthed my way through straight to him. After killing all the adds in the tunnel and around him - I dismissed my pet. Basically - I shot a Ice Trap right in front of him. Then pulled with a multi-shot - hitting everything at once. He came straight for me - and his adds got slowed by the Ice Trap so it gave me a few to back up, then disengage, and single target him. I actually failed the first time because when he knocks you down/stuns you - it's hard to recover, move and shoot before the adds bear down on you...

But the second time I was able to recover fast enough to lay down another Ice Trap and disengage - giving me enough space to lay him out.

So that's my advice. Pull with a SLOW on the adds - and just back up while you're single targeting him to death. It gets tricky with the mirror effect and the stun but it's easily doable once you learn the timing of everything (especially the timing vs. your cds).

Good luck getting the mount!
(This was the last ach for me actually)

Commentaire de Makita

Solo'd as a 550 Surv hunter with pet. Stacks on pet didn't seem to count as fail. Sent pet in first, started kiting when they aggro'd me using disengage and freezing trap. Deterrence wil prevent new stacks from coming up so I used it to make the debuff wear off. Also used feign death to reset my threat and get a little bit of space. Still a bit of a chaotic encounter though.

Commentaire de DeadlyWanderer

For all of you wondering, yes, one shotting him works.

Commentaire de layllaa

I will share my experience with you.
Just did this on my warrior alone.

Charged boss and leaped when he switched form (ran from adds as well). Charged back on him when he reappear, used my engi belt and ran again and charged him 3rd time and killed him second before they got 4 stacks on me.

Cheers.
Laylla.

Commentaire de bamps09

Quite easy for frost DK, set Army of Dead onto boss, wait one second for them to get adds aggro and rang kill boss. Done within 5 seconds.

Commentaire de tarc

Ret pal, I sicced a Caisse de chiots enlevés on him, similar to the DK's strat above with the army of the dead. Works like a charm.

Commentaire de darkelemental1

Just to toss in how this goes for pure casters at 100 (ilvl 655 Lock). Wait for him to down Raz. Then hit him with your best shot. Fire away. A single chaos bolt downed him and got the achieve before the adds could even look at me. Poor Raz though.

Commentaire de ForlornArchive

As of patch 6.1, the achievement is easy to get, especially for ranged classes. If you nuke the boss fast enough there's no issue, though as a melee if you're not able to one-two shot this may require some kiting.

Commentaire de 1387709

Very easy, just got it. 693 arcane mage. Walked up to where boss was just in range. Spammed my arcane blast until it started to cast, then spammed supernova while arcane blast was casting. dead boss. enjoy :)

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Commentaire de Taroock

I confirm that now this can be easily one shot.

Commentaire de littletiny

Solo at 110: wait for Raz (the angry giant) to kill the mobs he wants. Then one shot the boss. No aggro, no kiting, no trouble.

I used a bear druid, killed boss from range with a Moonfire (single target, not buffed by the La Dame et l'Enfant legendary). Got the achieve.

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