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Commentaire de LordHiccup

Seems to be an heirloom version of Finkle's Lava Dredger. "Repurposed" is right, the old one was a healer mace, just about as far as you can get from a melee weapon.

Commentaire de zizara

Feral Druids - Rejoice!

Commentaire de 352476

Seems they keep adding more and more "Old school" stuff for our alts :P

Commentaire de Viserys

Cruzh, if you haven't seen all the other Heirlooms in the game, the stats scale with level. So you don't have 28AP at level 80, it gets higher as your level gets higher.

Commentaire de Usada

You can tell from the Druid " feral tooltip" that this weapon grants 434 attack power, which is very minimal when compared to weapons at level 80.

It's obvious that this isn't actually scaled to level 80 even though the item seems so.

As a side-note, I'm so happy that blizzard decided to "Repurpose" our beloved Finkle's Lava Dredger. That weapon was unique and had a certain sentimental value from Molten Core vanilla wow days.

EDIT: To those people not understanding how Feral Attack Power works/calculated:

All weapons with more than 54.8 DPS grant druids feral attack power. No weapon has a specific bonus to feral attack power...

All druids will see the amount of feral attack power granted by an item in the item tooltip, if it grants any.

The formula for calculating feral attack power is:

FAP = (D - 54.8) * 14

where D = Weapon DPS

Commentaire de 383588

Does anyone know if this is from Emblems or if this is from Champion's Seals?

Edit: Downrated for trying to get some solid information on the page. :

Commentaire de 218636

Live (Real) Stats:

Repurposed Lava Dredger
Binds to account
Two-Hand Mace
361 - 542 Speed 2.90
(156.0 damage per second)
+68 Agility
+103 Stamina
+15 Fire Resistance
Requires level 1 - 80 (80)
Item level 1
Increases attack power by 1417 in Cat, Bear, Dire Bear, and Moonkin forms only.
Equip: Increases your armor penetration rating by 45.
Equip: Increases attack power by 91.

Can be bought in Dalaran (at the Heirloom Vendor) for 65 Emblem of Heroism, Or Can be purchased From Dame Evniki Kapsalis at The Argent Tournament (Must be a Crusader) For 95 Champion's Seal

Commentaire de Corbon

Used to use the original as a Pala for a long time. One of the coolest designs ever, good to see it's coming back. And they even kept the fire resistance on it.

Commentaire de 218636

This Also seems to have the combined stats of Dirkee's Superstructure as well as Finkle's Lava Dredger all combined to make a great BoA mace!

Commentaire de 197687

+15 Fire Resistance

Why Blizzard? Why? You were doing so well. No useless Spirit on the melee heirlooms, SP for the casters, and now...this.

Commentaire de 311173

Does there happen to be a PVP Stone keeper shard attainable counterpart to this?

Commentaire de 359979

The return of the Can opener of Doom!

Commentaire de 424300

Am i the only one trying to figure out if the armor pen at lvl 1 is correct? 14 ArP at lvl 1 according to the tool tip is roughly 97%. If that's the case i'll pick one up for my paladin.

Commentaire de RamRod10

Out of curiosity, can anyone confirm the exact cost of this item. I believe its going to cost Emblems of Heroism, which will have to be downgraded from Conquest. I'm guessing its gonna be around 65 EoH. Never thought I was gonna bring myself to be able to turn conquest emblems into Heroism, but I guess since its possible to farm over 35 a day its no big deal. This thing better kick some serious ass.

Commentaire de Tempri

Anyone know if this grants Feral Attack Power pre-60? As far as I know only weapons lvl 60 and above grant Feral Attack Power, anything below simply grants standard stats to feral druids.

Commentaire de 35421

What is the best enchant for a cat/feral druid on this weapon? +25 AGI, Lifestealing, Crusader, etc...?

And while we're on the topic, what is the best enchant for the BOA chest for Druids as well?

Thanks

Commentaire de 381142

I wasn't sure, but would this weapon be fitting for warriors? I haven't really decided whether to use the axe or this.

Commentaire de Usada

The formula for calculating feral attack power is:

FAP = (D - 54.8) * 14

where D = Weapon DPS

Commentaire de SeabeastRivin

can you enchant this with mongoose or something once you pass level 35?

Unless they changed this in 3.2, Heirlooms are always considered level 1 for the purposes of enchanting, so no, you could not.

Commentaire de 145624

Im realy glad that they decided to add an heirloom that allows Druids (feral) to have some fun while lvling aswell. But i think there should be something more, dont know what tho. But well.. its a start :) GJ blizzard

Commentaire de theconfessor

@zenpheonix

they are bound to faction/realm. If you are alliance 80 and sending it to an alt, that alt must also be alliance and on the same server as the 80. You can transfer your character AFTER you send the Heirloom, but not before, and never across factions.

Commentaire de Spog

The item grants agility and stamina, along with the +15 fire resistance.
edit: and armor penetration.
edit: and attack power

Commentaire de Eronomar

My main character is a palidan, so i can't see the hidden feral stats on any of the items. I have read that almost everyone says how its great for feral druids but which BoA items are the best right now. Is this the best weapon?

Commentaire de 320457

most annouying looks on this item.. thinking of a feral drood alt to horde.. but thinking againg as this looks so disquisting...
worst model ever on any heirbloom =(

This suits gnome warrior, none else

Commentaire de 341131

Kind of odd that they went with a mace instead of a staff or polearm for this one. A fast 2H mace with agi and AP is really only going to be put to good effect by ferals, the ArPen has some appeal for Warriors, but the wep's so fast that they'd still be better off with the BAR. It would have made much more sense to make it a polearm, just so hunters (who also use these stats) would get something out of it. Making one more or less just for ferals is really kinda silly, especially since ferals really don't benefit much from heirloom weps (prior to 60, their DPS scales with level already. Once you hit Outland, weapon upgrades are common enough that the heirloom isn't necessary. The scaling stats are nice, but nothing huge).

Ah well, not like it's gonna change now.

Commentaire de darkwarrior42

For any feral druids considering this item, it's worth noting that this item first has enough dps to grant feral attack power at level 58; at level 58, this item has 65 dps, and grants 143 feral attack power.

very nice, as you start getting a huge boost in your AP as you enter outland :)

Commentaire de GreatePier

I can totally see how this heirloom gets to be in someone's possession:

And now we can proceed with the execution of late Uncle Hero's last will and testament.

To my dear little cousin, Druid, I shall leave my Giant Can Opener....

Commentaire de eonfix

Is there any1 that knows what weapon is the best for a enhancement shaman? this mace or the other 2hand axe? just wondering what i should buy! plz give me some tips on this if You dont mind=P

Commentaire de 381360

Plz dont downrate but hows this weapon for a paladin? ret paladin that is just wnated to know which to get this one or Arcanite reaper

Commentaire de 320457

Druid weapon for sure (feral)
But looks something that comes out of gnomeregan (and droods don´t come from there)
Would suit Goblin/Gnome warrior from looks, certainly not druids! (in my opinnion)

Hate the looks on this for a druid, but luckily ferals are useally on some form! =)

Would love something like:
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=19874 (Halberd of Smiting) for a druid heirloom. Looks awesome!

Well, hoping for some heirlom for ferals that could be purchased with Stonekeeper shards (PvP) so would not have to look this item whole 80 levels.

Commentaire de 332056

Regardless of this fact, slower weapons still provide more damage to normalized instant attacks. Because normalized instant attacks are still based on weapon damage, there is still a higher base weapon damage used in the equation.

normalized_damage = base_weapon_damage + (X * Attack Power / 14)

where X is based on the weapon type.

So, the important thing here is that while attack power does not scale with weapon speed (which is what normalization was intended to fix such that faster weapons of higher dps generally provided more dps), a slow weapon still provides more base damage on the attack. This is not quite as important while in a raid setting where base damage pales in comparison to attack power; however while leveling a character the base weapon damage is not to be underestimated in this equation and a 2.90 speed weapon will be significantly lower in dps than the 3.80 speed Bloodied Arcanite Reaper

TL;DR: If you want to level a paladin, warrior, or deathknight go for the axe. Windfury weapon and Stormstrike are NOT normalized, so there shouldn't be any excuse for using a fast weapon as a shaman.

Intelligence does indeed hurt.

Commentaire de 283705

If you're using this, you're going feral, in which you spend alot of time in Cat Form, since that has a swing timer of 1 second, and Crusader being calculated of your swing speed, 25+ agility is more beneficial, I think.

Information you wanna check out about procs 'n crusader:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Procs_per_minute

http://www.wowwiki.com/Enchant_Weapon_-_Crusader

Commentaire de 389201

where's my heirloom hunter 2 hander. :(

Commentaire de 163674

As I was in two minds about which enchant to go for myself, I thought I'd make a list of the pros and cons of each enchant:

+25 agility

A boost to attack power, useful in cat form for a damage boost, and useful in bear form for threat, seeing as such spells as Swipe damage are modified by attack power.
A relatively large amount of crit, good for damage in cat and threat in bear form. The bonus of this will decrease as you level up, due to more agility being needed to gain the same percentage chance to crit, but still a useful boost.
A relatively large chance to dodge attacks. This is of course mostly useful in Bear Form while tanking, but could prove useful in cat form while leveling for less damage taken, meaning less downtime.
As it's not a proc, the effects are constant and never wasted, whereas Crusader may only proc at the end of a fight.

Crusader

A chance to gain a heal of 75 to 125. Useful as a cat if you ever find yourself off tanking some trash in an instance, and useful while questing or grinding to reduce downtime. Useful as a bear to either help the healer, or possibly save you if the healer dies, runs oom, or is perhaps not quite proficient at playing their class. This effect, as with the 25 agility enchant, becomes less powerful in relation to your health as you level, but remains a nice effect all the same.
A chance to gain 100 strength for 15 seconds. Useful as a cat for the attack power meaning more damage, and useful as a bear for the extra threat (although the usefullness of this as a tanking stat for druids is diminished by it not providing avoidance like the agility does, and not providing the mitigation it does to warriors and paladins who gain block value). This effect becomes less of a 15-second period in which you can annihilate mobs, to a general damage boost as you level closer to the level that your were first expected to have the enchant at, which is around 60.
As a proc, it may often be wasted, or not happen at the optimal time.
This effect is lessened as your character levels past 60, meaning you'll be getting less strength per proc and less healing. This, coupled with the large boosts to stats you will get upon attaining outland/northrend gear, makes this enchant very lack lustre past level 60.

Conclusion

As you can see, the +25 agility appears to be the most beneficial, and this is the reason I chose it over Crusader. However, Crusader is probably better for druid tanks than the agility, as the heal I imagine would make up for the loss of dodge, and the strength proc will more than make up for any threat bonus granted from the agility.
Despite this, I would still recommend the agility to any feral druid who will be tanking only part of the time. Unless you will be leveling by only or mainly tanking instances, then the 25 agility will make up for its lesser bonus to tanking by greatly boosting your damage while in cat form.

Commentaire de 260714

You can learn maces in Exodar(allience)

Commentaire de 172648

Although a 2nd Heirloom Arcanite Reaper would be ideal is this a viable weapon to use OH for a fury warrior? I have a druid alt that I plan to use this for afterwards so i can know of two birds with one stone

Commentaire de xgold

Wowwiki says:
Classes: Druid, Shaman (levels 1-40), Warrior, Death Knight, Paladin

Question: Why Shaman (levels 1-40)?

Thanks.

Commentaire de 311760

Does not give any bonus feral attack power until level 58, but when it does it gives around 140

Commentaire de 289479

WHY THE HELL CANT MY HUNTER USE THIS. PERFECT ITEMIZATION, NOPE, MY NAME IS BLIZZARD AND I DESIGN ITEM USAGE FOR ONE SPEC IN THE ENTIRE GAME WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Commentaire de Lowonmana

Bad troll hunter, bad!
(btw caps isnt lifes auto pilot)

Be happy with your bow (based off the most epic bow model in the game btw) Daggers (aw manz, but my melee will suck D:) Chest, Shoulder, and trinkets.

Not to be rude, just saying that hunters heirloom wise are perfectly fine. Of course, I want to send a QQ for Heirloom Librams and Totems...and Idols...watching my lowbie druid whack things with a can opener isnt entertaining enough.

Commentaire de 596605

I like how the only two-handed hierloom weapon that would be usefull to hunters is a mace.

/facepalm @ blizz

Anywho, for those hunters who prefer two-handers over those puny little daggers, i've put together a little list of what i did with my hunter to compensate for the lack of usefull heirloom hunter two-handers

levels 15-24 i went with Croc de Boahn with a +25 agility enchant that i managed to nab of the auction house for around 100g (axe already enchanted)
Not the best of Blues, but it should last you for around 9 levels, which is all thats needed. the +25 agility is whats important. you'd probably be better off going with some green with "Of agility" or "Of the monkey"

Levels 24-40/45 i went with Perce-armure again with a +25 agility enchant. I've yet to run Razorfen Kraul without this item dropping, so one run will do just fine.
Armour Peircer is an amazing hunter weapon, and with a +25 agility enchant it'll last you at least until 40 to 45. If you're on a relatively low budget (Or grimloks Charge refuses to drop for you) its perfectly acceptable to keep this weapon until outland as their simply isnt another weapon with as much agility thats as easy to get.

Levels 40/45 - 65 I went with Devoir de Grimelok with (gasp!) Savagery.
This weapon is great, but a bit hard to get. Uldaman has got a lot easier to run with the addition of the dungeon finder tool, so it shouldent be too difficult, but be prepared to spend a few levels with your trusty armour piercer. Grimlok also drops Jambières en cuir huilé which are a nice sidegrade from Pantalon du coureur should you have been lucky enough to pick them up.

Levels 65 -70/71 i went with Fendoir en adamantite with Greater Savagery (85 ap) enchant on it.
This weapon should nearly always be on your servers AH. if its not, contact a BS and ask him for a link to the mats. its a very easy axe to make, and is a beautiful hunter weapon.

Levels 70/71 - 80 i went with https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=37461#sold-by with an 85 Ap enchant on it.
This weapons a bit of a grind to get, but much easier(and better) than its previous incarnation. it only requires 50 clams, and so should be relatively easy to get. however, if you're lazy you can just go with https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=35870#reward-from-q which is a bit easier to get (though i think is worse).

Congratulations! You just leveled your hunter to 80 without the use of puny and expensive heirloom daggers! shake your rear at those silly people who would spend 80 emblems on daggers.

Nutkikka/Kagella Sha'tar Realm

Happy Huntin' :D

Commentaire de Broshan

Since its "Bind to account" can i then transfer it between realms?

Commentaire de snuzzle

Minor annoyance: This item was clearly designed to fill the niche in heirloom items for baby ferals, yet a young druid does not start with the 2H mace skill and must go to train it.

Any baby druid with access to this will likely have enough gold to easily train the skill right away, and will be having to do a bit of travel to go to a mailbox to get it anyway but still, a bit annoying that they didn't make it a staff or something that we don't have to run all the way to TB/IF (the Alliance one has it a bit tougher for fledgling night elves!) for. Plus, if it was a staff, it would also be useful for baby hunters!

Also please note I am not saying this item is not also acceptable for baby warriors, paladins, DKs, shamans, etc. But these classes all had items they could use for heirlooms prior to this item's late introduction.

Commentaire de rlindse5

Just kind of an odd graphic note, when you hold this weapon you see the neat spinning thing on the handle, the giant spinning main cog and the twisting end of what looks like a key in between on the side
when you sheath this weapon on your back, the twisting end goes into your back... ouch

Commentaire de 262906

maybe this is the noob in me talking, but isnt 3500JP alot to pay for this?

Commentaire de 491283

This item no longer grants 15 Fire Resistance. Why? I have no idea. It was a fun and subtle nod to the original item.

Commentaire de 303818

Why on earth has the cost of heirlooms skyrocketed in patch 4.0.1? They used to cost a large number of Emblems of Heroism which took a while to amass any excess of other badges to convert. Now with only a month or so to go before Cata release when people have little to do other than level alts, they suddenly cost at least 4x more than before!

The justification given is that at 85 we will miraculously be earning so many points that level 80 items become supercheap. Except I fail to see what possible justification or relevance this has to a level 80 trying to purchase level 80 items who does not own the Cataclysm expansion and furthermore Cataclysm is still many weeks away from release!

Its even more unfair to those who had been stockpiling badges to use for heirlooms and were just short of them before purchase.

Commentaire de Hapseleg

27-11-2010 (patch 4.0.3a)

This item gives me haste now but the fire res resistance dosent work! it gives me 0 fire resistance >(
edit: even tho the item in game says 15 fire resistance!

Commentaire de sandreid87

How come I cant see the Attack Power in game? This is patch 4.03, and my druid is level 62, but there is no Attack Power on my Repurposed Lava Dredger. Have it been removed from Heirlooms in Cataclysm or something? Maybe it have just been hidden or something? Or do Druid's damage actually scale with the DPS on the weapons they use? I haven't paid much attention to the Druid changes in Cata...

Commentaire de 131684

So when equipping this, the +15 fire resistance shows up on the item, but not displayed in stats.

- Does anyone know at what level the +15 fire resistance becomes active?
- Or is it active all the time, and thats just a glitch?

Commentaire de guatafu

Tooltip displays +15 Fire resistance but if you check your character pane you get none. And yes I did removed any other buffs that gave me resistances to verify if it was a stacking issue but nope, no resistance at all.

Commentaire de 551115

I just read through all these comments and I am fascinated!

No one else seems to have noticed just how ridiculous this weapon is, considering it was made as the only feral Druid heirloom and it resembles something mechanical, when druids are supposed to be conduits of nature.

This weapon embodies everything that druids are not. I was really looking forward to a druid alt soon, however now I am stuck as I loathe this weapon, to me it is not even a choice for my druid, yet feral relies heavily on weapon damage and stats.

What now?

Commentaire de Cynwise

When paired with an Iron Counterweight, this mace works surprisingly well for a level 10 Holy Paladin haste-stacking twink. You can get 90%+ Haste with this combo and the glove Haste enchant, which translates to 1.1 second Holy Light casts.

Unfortunately, all that Haste starts going away at level 11. But it's really, really nice while it lasts.

Commentaire de 928054

What will happen to the 15 resist in MoP?

Commentaire de Catyra

Tooltip for feral does not reflect an AP bonus. It still gets applied even if the tooltip omits it. I'm getting ~1500 AP @lvl 72 equipping it.

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Dégâts : 361 - 543	Vitesse 2.90

(156.00 dégâts par seconde)
+68 Agilité
+103 Endurance
+15 à la résistance Feu

Requiert Niveau 1 - 80 (80)
Équipé : Augmente de 45 le score de coup critique.
Équipé : Augmente de 45 le score de hâte.
Équipé : +15 à la résistance au Feu.

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