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Commentaire de Reignac

Pretty sure this is the Elder Charm/Mogu Rune for 5.4.

Commentaire de Voxxel

The new currency to get Bonus loot rolls for bosses of Siège d’Orgrimmar and new world bosses (Chi Ji, Xuen, Niuzao, Yu’lon and Ordos) on the Timeless Isle.

This new tier 16 version can be obtained by doing the weekly quest Les sceaux de guerre offered by the same NPCs as for the previous currencies ( Ancienne Lin for the Alliance, Ancien Liao for the Horde). You can exchange 50x Breloque de bonne fortune inférieure for 3 Sceau de guerre once per week, for a total of 10 seals.

Important note: If you still have the weekly quest in your quest log from the last week when the patch goes live, do not just run to the NPC to hand-in! You'll still get Mogu Runes instead of Warforged Seals because the quest remained the old version. Make sure to delete the old quest first and pick up the new version from the NPC before you hand in your precious Lesser Charms.

The old Rune du destin mogu now has a cap of 20. You can buy them from Tisse-brume Ai for 1000x Pièce du Temps figé per piece.
The Breloque de bonne fortune inférieure droprate has been received some buff and now there's a good chance to drop from any mobs around Pandaria, including the new Île du Temps figé as well as from Durotar and Northern Barrens mobs involving Battlefield: Barrens (Barrens event will end on patch 5.4 launch) and you still can receive them as a reward of MoP daily quests aswell. ~~Alternatively, you can buy them for real money from the Blizzard Store through the new "in-game store" feature added in patch 5.4~~ (Charms are still unavailable for real-money as of 5.4.7).

Commentaire de lecanard2

what maybe for pvp, idk. tbh we might not know until the patch notes drop

i would presume that these are maybe the horde pvp tokens given the color and "warforged" name of war, probably like honor points or conquest points

Commentaire de sabrestryke

I still have about 600 of the Lesser charms.

Commentaire de Werich

You can check this guide to see which dailies are the most effective to farm your 0 Breloque de bonne fortune inférieure.

At the moment it seems that the fastest way requires 37 minutes of your time to get 0 Breloque de bonne fortune inférieure for the weekly (A) Les sceaux de guerre / (H) Les sceaux de guerre.

Commentaire de Msamaki

How many times can you use these on a Boss per week, Ordos say once or three times (coins permitting...)?

Commentaire de Trife

Anyone know if using a Warforged Seal on Garrosh can net you a BoA weapon, or are the only personal loot?

Commentaire de Ryjabo

Can these only be used in Siege of Orgrimmar or for the Timeless Isle bosses? Specifically, does it mean I can't jump in a ToT LFR and use them on Tortos?

I need that bow >.<

Commentaire de VirgilWeller

IsLes sceaux de guerre the only way to get these seals ?

Commentaire de Thundercatz

Warforged Seal: "Do not try and bend the loot. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth."
Neo: "What truth?"
Warforged Seal: "There is no loot."

Commentaire de apatheticsheep

Macro to check if you completed the weekly quest to convert seals.
totally ripped off from world boss check macro - don't know who to credit.
sorry

/run for k, v in pairs ({ seals = 33133 }) do print(format("%s: %s", k, IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(v) and "\124cFFFF0000Looted\124r" or "\124cFF00FF00Not Looted Yet\124r")) end

I think it works - if it doesn't please don't flame me :)

Commentaire de SSlaughter

So every time you get gold from bonus rolls, you get more of a chance to get loot the next time? Does warforged seals mix in with elder charms and mogu runes? Like if im on a streak of getting just gold 12 times in a row from my warforged seals, and I go use an elder charm or mogu rune on say oondasta or nalak, and get loot, will that reset the bad luck streak ive had on warforged seals?

this is a serious question, I read on wowhead an article about it raising the chance you get loot everytime you get gold, but I can NOT find this again, can someone link it?

Commentaire de juggalotus75

So what i gather is, i can only get 3 a week? unlike the other charms? thats @#$%ing bull%^&*

Commentaire de assie

Don't know if this have been covered on any of the other bonus loot items comments, but a little heads up.
If you run LFR and win an epic item, then choose to roll for another one, you CAN in fact get one more of the exact same item. Happened to me yesterday, 2x fancy shoulders.

Commentaire de Quackie

A weekly form of currency that can be exchanged for gold after killing a raid boss.

Commentaire de ViperhawkZ

This is preposterous, I have almost a thousand Charms and I can only turn in fifty a week? That's not even mentioning the fact that, over the course of that week, I'm almost guaranteed to find more than fifty extra Charms. Bah.

Commentaire de Wymsageu

How often can you do those quests to get the seals? Each day, each week..?

Commentaire de Draewind

You may only have a maximum of 10 Warforged Seals. If you complete the quest for them after you have 10, you will only receive gold and lose your Lesser Charms.

Commentaire de kabookiejoe

You can switch your specialization from your main spec to off-spec before you use the bonus roll(when combat has ended). used this method to gear my monk MW/WW

Commentaire de liji

If you forget to get your warforged seals for the week and kill a world boss first, you can still roll if you make it in time. Just rush back (have a mage port you to shrine), do the quest, leave party, and the roll will will appear on your screen. Magic.
I can confirm that this works for both Ordos and Celestials.

I am always in too much of a hurry every week to kill the bosses that I often forget to do the quest and don't realize til the boss is dead and the extra roll didn't pop. This has saved me two weeks in a row now.

Commentaire de megafierce

If you want a macro that checks to see whether you've killed all six bosses and looted your Warforged Seals yet this week:

/run for k, v in pairs({Celestials=33117, Ordos=33118, Galleon=32098, Sha=32099, CHARMS=33133, Oondasta=32519, Nalak=32518}) do print(format("%s: %s", k, IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(v) and "\124cFF00FF00Looted\124r" or "\124cFFFF0000Incomplete\124r")) end

Commentaire de Jazzycakes2

Remember if you are low on time to play wow and have several alts, try to at least get them to turn in this quest on a weekly basis - provided that you have the lesser charms to do so.

Commentaire de santipants

Warforged seals are garbage. What a joke these are, the chance on them to give loot must be something ridiculously low.

Same with how Mogu Runes were before 5.4.7, now you take an alt into ToT with Mogu Runes and you get loot almost every time. For how hard it is to get seals in the first place even just a 50% chance would be fair but nope.

As with everything in WoW time sink time sink time sink.

Commentaire de Noxx22nikos

I would like to clearify because there may be some confusion about the warforged seal rolls that you CAN use them when a boss dies at normal or heroic content. Doesnt matter if the loot is being distributed via master or group looting system, instead of the one-per-lockout random chance of getting an item, that happens in LFR and Flexible raiding.

Commentaire de Berbe

If you loot a boss in any raid where seals are usable and use a seal for extra roll, can you do same boss again before reset and get another extra roll with seal?

Commentaire de piraka810

I can now confirm that loot gained from Siege of Orgrimaar bosses using a Sceau de guerre CAN be Warforged.
I recently received a warforged version of Arrache-tripes de Nazgrim from 10 man normal Général Nazgrim after using a Seal.

Commentaire de saturasxc

thank to this item, despite you are saved in the raid, you can still get some extra gold from bosses...like 3g or so :D forget the items, there is no rule with ilvl (if the boss drops an item for you and its better than the one you have currently equiped you wont get it by spending the seal, its still RNG)

Commentaire de Cymre

To confirm: You can keep using your Warforged Seals (and Mogu Runes of Fate) to roll on a boss you've already killed that week. This has been tested multiple times on various raid bosses in both the Siege of Orgrimmar and the Throne of Thunder.

Very handy when you're trying to get a particular item to drop - especially one with a random enchantment - Frostborn Wristwraps.

Commentaire de ilostmahbucket

By far the best way to farm the Lesser Coins for these now is Gulp Frog killing in groups on the East coast of the Timeless Isle.

Got about 500 in less than an hour with a halfway geared group of 5, they respawn faster than you can kill them.

Tight area, easy to loot them. Each party member gets a lesser coin looted per kill, plus you often get a bonus coin as they die. Just don't let their debuff on you get to 10, so don't pull too many at once.

Don't forget to grab the weekly quests from Kairoz and Emperor Shaohao near the celestial court for easy valor (weekly quests).

Can't be in a raid group.

You will also get a fairly high number of Timeless Coins (got 20k).

Great if you have 11 90's like me o.O

Commentaire de corners

If you already have 10 x Warforged Seals you will get 45g 60 silver for turning in 50 charms still.

Commentaire de hennesyvenom

well you can go to shrine of seven stars on the bottom floor and youll find a quest every tuesday you go there it should be blue the question mark and you right click and shell give you three of them

Commentaire de darkflow

Does anyone know if the bonus roll increase thing per failure get reset if you bonus roll on a TOT LFR since you pretty much get 100% loot from bonus rolls now. don't want to mess up my warforged seals roll luck.

Commentaire de thirdrail

Starting in Patch 6.0, they are removing the 3-per-week weekly restriction for Sceau de guerre. You will be able to purchase as many Seals as you have Charms for.

Source: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14059367017?page=2#31

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Commentaire de WoWGnGP

I made a video there show you how to get warforged seals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CauEfn9Y_ss

Commentaire de jjanchan

***LEGION UPDATE: The new bonus roll currency for Legion launch is Sceau du destin brisé. Also, Legion will increase the cap for Sceau du destin inévitable from 10 to 20. This has preemptively been updated below.***

This is one of the extra roll currencies that were first introduced in Mists of Pandaria. It allows you to roll (at a cost of 1 currency per roll) for an extra chance at loot on certain world, raid or dungeon bosses.

This extra loot is granted directly to the person rolling and is not part of the group/party's loot for that boss. The majority of the time the roll does not yield loot - when this is the case, gold is granted instead. Certain currencies also can grant pets or mounts as part of the bonus loot - this will vary depending on boss (a list of mounts and pets you can bonus roll for is listed later in this comment).

There is protection for bad luck on bonus rolls. As per a blue post:

Whenever you use a bonus roll and you don’t get any loot, your chance of getting loot on the next roll will increase. This increased probability won’t be reset until some loot is awarded, and this is independent of the boss that is being killed.
The bad luck streak protection will carry over and continue to increase the probability from boss to boss and instance to instance and won't reset until you get some loot.

For all currencies, World Bosses will only allow a single roll a week. This can be on any kill - if you kill a boss more than once and pass on rolling the first time, you will still have the option of doing so on a subsequent kill that week.
For most currencies you can kill bosses in a single or multiple lockouts/difficulties (kill a boss on both Heroic and Normal, or a Heroic boss twice) to also get a bonus roll chance EACH time. For example, you can kill Gruul on Heroic difficulty twice, and while you will be able to get loot directly from the boss only once, you can bonus roll both times for extra chances at loot.
The above is NOT true for Mythic raids however - those lockouts prevent you from doing multiple bosses in one week.

The currencies listed can be found on the currency tab in your character screen. Below is a table summarizing the currency types, including sources for each.
NOTE: NPC locations can be seen on a by mousing over the zone name in the "Source" column.

Legion
Currency	Source	Eligible Raids/Bosses	Cap
Sceau du destin brisé	Obtainable (maximum 3 per week) from Archimage Lan’dalock (Dalaran - Legion) for various currencies, as below.	1st	2nd	3rd
Gold	1000	2000	4000
Order Resources	1000	2000	4000

Palais Sacrenuit
Le Cauchemar d’émeraude
Mythic dungeons
Legion World Bosses:
Ana-Mouz
Calamir
Drugon le Givre-Sang
Débris
Balmorgue
Levantus
Na’zak le démon
Nithogg
Shar’thos
The Soultakers
J’im le Flétri

Warlords of Draenor
Currency	Source	Eligible Raids/Bosses	Cap
Sceau du destin trempé	A) Sold by vendors: Traque-aube Krisek (Tanaan Jungle) - 240-300g* Corborateur Thelnaas (Tanaan Jungle) - 240-300g* Déroute-destin Seress (Stormshield) - 300g Déroute-destin Tiklal (Warspear) - 300g *NOTE - Cost from vendors in Tanaan vary with reputation level with Ordre des Éveillés, with lowest cost being 240g at Exalted reputation. B) Obtained from garrison missions: Drov le Dévastateur Rukhmar	Cognefort Fonderie des Rochenoires Draenor World Bosses: Drov le Dévastateur Tarlna l’Éternel Rukhmar	20
Sceau du destin inévitable	A) One per week can be obtained from Fortin nain / Usine de guerre Niveau 3 in your garrison. Speak to Grun’lek (H)/Kristen Forgepierre (A) to obtain your weekly seal. *NOTE - This seal counts as 1 of the maximum 3 seals you can obtain per week. B) Obtainable (maximum 3 per week) from Déroute-destin Tiklal (Warspear)/Déroute-destin Seress (Stormshield) for various currencies, as below.	1st	2nd	3rd
Gold	500	1000	2000
Garrison Resources	1000	2000	4000
Apexis Crystals	500	1000	2000

*NOTE - If you already obtained 1 from your Fortin nain / Usine de guerre Niveau 3, only 2 more can be obtained for currency that week.

C) One seal obtainable for completing the Timewalking Bonus Event quest Un passage brûlant dans les limbes du temps (during Burning Crusade Timewalking, Un passage glacial dans les limbes du temps (during Wrath of the Lich King Timewalking) or Un passage brisé dans les limbes du temps (during Cataclysm Timewalking). The seals are in addition to the 3 seals per week otherwise obtainable.

Citadelle des Flammes infernales
Tanaan Jungle World Boss:
Seigneur suprême Kazzak
Mythic Dungeons

Mists of Pandaria
Currency	Source	Eligible Raids/Bosses	Cap
Breloque ancienne de bonne fortune	A) Sold by Commandant Lo Ping in Townlong Steppes for the cost of 20 Breloque de bonne fortune inférieure each. Use the following macro to purchase them quickly and easily: /run BuyMerchantItem(1,1) B) Dropped by various rare spawns and summoned mobs on the Isle of Thunder.	Caveaux Mogu’shan Cœur de la peur Terrasse Printanière Pandaria World Bosses: Galion Sha de la colère	20
Rune du destin mogu	Sold by Tisse-brume Ai on the Timeless Isle for the cost of 1000 Pièce du Temps figé each.	Trône du tonnerre Isle of Thunder World Boss: Nalak Isle of Giants World Boss: Oondasta	20
Sceau de guerre	Weekly quest which grants 3 seals for the cost of 50 Breloque de bonne fortune inférieure total. Les sceaux de guerre, available from Ancien Liao, ground floor in Shrine of the Two Moons Les sceaux de guerre, available from Ancienne Lin, ground floor of Shrine of the Seven Stars	Siège d’Orgrimmar Timeless Isle World Bosses: Chi Ji Xuen Yu’lon Niuzao Ordos	20

Below I have compiled some data on pets, mounts and other drops from bosses (both World and Raid bosses).
The "Bonus Roll" column notes whether the item in question is obtainable from a bonus roll (note that you can USE a bonus roll on all bosses, but you will not necessarily be able to get certain pets and mounts on the bonus roll).
NOTE: World Boss locations can be seen on a by mousing over the zone name in the "Source" column.

MOUNTS
Mount	Source	Bonus Roll Mount	Currency
Rênes de serpent-nuage astral	Elegon Raid Boss Caveaux Mogu’shan Normal, Heroic	No	-
Selle du fils de Galion	Galion World Boss Valley of the Four Winds	Yes	Breloque ancienne de bonne fortune
Rênes de serpent-nuage céleste onyx	Sha de la colère World Boss Kun-Lai Summit	Yes	Breloque ancienne de bonne fortune
Rejeton d'Horridon	Horridon Raid Boss Trône du tonnerre Normal, Heroic	No	-
Etreinte de Ji Kun	Ji Kun Raid Boss Trône du tonnerre Normal, Heroic	No	-
Rênes de serpent-nuage de cobalt fulminant	Nalak World Boss Isle of Thunder	Yes	Rune du destin mogu
Rênes de navrecorne primordial cobalt	Oondasta World Boss Isle of Giants	Yes	Rune du destin mogu
Mastodonte kor'kron	Garrosh Hurlenfer Raid Boss Siège d’Orgrimmar Mythic	No	-
Destructeur sabot-de-fer	Main-Noire Raid Boss Fonderie des Rochenoires Mythic	No	-
Faucon des flèches solaire	Rukhmar World Boss Spires of Arak	No	-
Annihilateur en gangracier	Archimonde Raid Boss Citadelle des Flammes infernales Mythic	No	-
Noyau de brasier infernal	Gul’dan Raid Boss Palais Sacrenuit Normal, Heroic, Mythic	No	-
Noyau de flammes dévorantes	Gul’dan Raid Boss Palais Sacrenuit Mythic	No	-

PETS
Pet	Source	Bonus Roll Pet	Currency
Drop: Navrecorne pygmée Pet: Navrecorne pygmée	Horridon Raid Boss Trône du tonnerre LFR, Normal, Heroic	Yes	Rune du destin mogu
Drop: Sablon vivant Pet: Sablon vivant	Council of Elders Raid Boss Trône du tonnerre LFR	Yes*	Rune du destin mogu *NOTE: In Normal or Heroic mode, this drops from Elémentaire des sables trash mobs and cannot be bonus rolled.
Drop: Bébé de Ji Kun Pet: Bébé de Ji Kun	Ji Kun Raid Boss Trône du tonnerre LFR, Normal, Heroic	Yes	Rune du destin mogu
Drop: Goutte tremblante Pet: Fluide vivant	Primordius Raid Boss Trône du tonnerre ONLY LFR	Yes	Rune du destin mogu
Drop: Goutte tremblante sombre Pet: Horreur visqueuse	Primordius Raid Boss Trône du tonnerre ONLY Normal and Heroic	No	-
Drop: Fils d'Animus Pet: Fils d’Animus	Sombre animus Raid Boss Trône du tonnerre LFR, Normal, Heroic	Yes	Rune du destin mogu
Drop: Sha-ton gluant Pet: Sha-ton gluant	Sha de l’orgueil Raid Boss Siège d’Orgrimmar ONLY LFR and Normal	Yes	Sceau de guerre
Drop: Gouttelette d'Y'Shaarj Pet: Gouttelette d’Y’Shaarj	Sha de l’orgueil Raid Boss Siège d’Orgrimmar ONLY Normal, Heroic and Mythic	Yes	Sceau de guerre
Drop: Bombinette Boîte-Noire Pet: Bombinette Boîte-Noire	Ingé-siège Boîte-Noire Raid Boss Siège d’Orgrimmar LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic	Yes	Sceau de guerre
Drop: Kovok Pet: Kovok	Paragons of the Klaxxi Raid Boss Siège d’Orgrimmar LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic	Yes	Sceau de guerre
Drop: Gardien de nid corrompu Pet: Gardien de nid corrompu	Seigneur de l’ombre Iskar Raid Boss Citadelle des Flammes infernales LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic	Yes	Sceau du destin inévitable

MISCELLANEOUS
Drop	Source	Bonus Roll	Currency
Trésor du chaman kor'kron (contains )	Kor'kron Dark Shaman Raid Boss Siège d’Orgrimmar Normal, Heroic, Mythic ONLY drops for Shamans	No	-

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Posséder un sceau de guerre permet à son chanceux propriétaire de l’utiliser pour obtenir un butin supplémentaire au Siège d’Orgrimmar, aux épreuves des Astres vénérables et sur Ordos.

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