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Commentaire de yodadoe

This is a great pattern to sell, horde-side, since it's so hard to get. You either have to kill Fadran in Refuge Point and hope for a drop (I'm 0 for 3 on that count) or get an Ally alt to buy it and put it up in the Goblin AH, so you can buy it (I did that). Considering how easy it is to get raptor hide and the decent stats for this item, both the pattern and the belt can be a nice money-maker.

Commentaire de GrimAlchemist

I'm pretty sure that this pattern is the alliance version of Raptor Hide Harness which is a pattern that's sold by the horde only. Both sides need -something- to use all their raptor hides on, right?

Commentaire de 151917

Really great to level up leatherworking for a small amount of heavy leather.

Make sure you get both of your heavy leather and your raptor hide from these mobs:

http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=4356

Commentaire de 156207

it seems that he don't sell them anymore i went there three days in a row but he wont sell em...

Commentaire de Killsomethin

Is the pattern still in game?

Commentaire de peachi

Bought it for my horde character with a lvl1 human and a lvl80 ud escort.
How i did it :
elwynn => bb 16min (for money)
HS
elwynn => tram => refuge28min (had to wait for the golds from the AH + find a mailbox)
HS
elwynn => bb 16min (AH)

Then something unexpected happend ! : the Pattern: Raptor Hide Belt turned into a Pattern: Raptor Hide Harness when i took it from the god damned mail box !

What a waste of time ! I didn't know it was even possible...

Commentaire de 581135

Then something unexpected happend ! : the Pattern: Raptor Hide Belt turned into a Pattern: Raptor Hide Harness when i took it from the god damned mail box !

I had no such trouble with this. I created a death knight (cheater way of doing things that require travel), headed out to Androd Fadran, nabbed the pattern along with a few other Alliance only recipes, then went off to Booty Bay. Had a friend on their horde character stationed near the auction house, so I posted it, they bought it right off. They were able to fetch the pattern from their mailbox with no change to it at all. My leather worker then received it via mail from them, and still no change. So now he has the raptor hide harness AND raptor hide belt recipes known. :)

See both of them on the my leather working list here: http://tinypic.com/r/2s79wnl/5

Commentaire de Dantarahma

just bought on smolderthorn at 1853. ill look again about each hour til it respawns.

Commentaire de rllewell

As of this date, it is not possible to transfer this pattern via the neutral AH.

Working with an Ally friend, the belt pattern was purchased and put on the AH at Booty Bay. My Horde character was able to buy out the auction and I received the belt pattern in the mail. But when I attempted to take it out of the mailbox I got the message: "You receive item: "

Transferring it back to my Alliance partner in leatherworking crime, he bought the Horde harness pattern but once out of the mailbox it became a belt pattern once more.

If anyone was lucky enough to get both of them on one character, hats off to you.

Commentaire de 506370

I am not one for normally posting, but I just ran across something that totally baffles me (based on most of the posts above). I checked the Horde AH for recipes I still need (been doing for a couple years) and someone was selling the raptor hide belt recipe for 10g. I don't know how the seller got it, and given it's "potential" value as an extremely rare pattern horde side, my guess is they had no idea what they were auctioning. Maybe it arrived via a paid faction change? Anyway, just wanted to give some hope to those out there who still need it. My toon is Kahona on Staghelm if you ever want to confirm.

Commentaire de merlin2oo2

As a Horde member, I was able to learn this pattern today(11/7/10) after purchasing it from the neutral AH. It did NOT change for me, so there is hope!

Commentaire de 502547

Had a horde alt kill Androd - does not restock when he spawns. :<

Commentaire de skantasm

This is just a thought, but the posts about the item changing into the Horde side version reminded me of something I had read about the Engineering Fireworks schematics a while back. They came in different colors, and the blue one was only available Alliance side at the time. If you hadn't learned the other colors Horde side yet, your blue schematic would turn into a red schematic once you got it out of the mailbox. If however you *had* learned the colors available to Horde, the blue one stayed blue once taken out of the mailbox. Comments here.

Maybe this pattern turns into the Horde side Pattern: Raptor Hide Harness if you haven't learned that one, yet? Interestingly both the Engineering schematic I'm talking about and this Leatherworking pattern were added in 1.11.1, so there is a possibility that it works the same way.

Commentaire de 823474

Today, 9/19/11, I was able to buy this recipe off of the HORDE side in UC auction house. I already had the raptor hide harness learned, so I took a chance on this recipe. I paid 250 gold for it, I figured the amount was smaller than the time it would take to start up a new character on Alliance and acquire it that way. Besides, what Horde in their right mind would even want to be an alliance character anyway?
I was a little worried I would get the same message that some of the others received, but indeed I was able to learn this recipe and would advise any other LW to try it also, Just make sure you have the raptor harness recipe learned, which is acquired through Arathi Basin in one of those smaller barn houses down near the bottom of the steps.

Commentaire de 818747

Confirmed that Horde can have this pattern without it changing to the harness pattern. You MUST have the raptor hide harness pattern learned first before putting this pattern in your inventory or it will change to the Horde-only harness pattern.

Commentaire de kkwydragonflame

Okay, so I've been trying all day to get this recipe on my horde hunter. I already have the horde equivalent, the hide harness, learned and according to a lot of comments I've read it should be possible to buy this off the neutral AH and get the belt recipe without it changing into harness, just as long as you already know the Raptor Hide Harness.

But alas, whatever I try, this does not seem to work. I've bought a total of 6! of these Raptor Hide Belt recipies today, posted them on the neutral AH and bought them with my hunter. But as soon as I loot it from my mailbox it changes into Raptor Hide Harness.

I tried buying it with my warlock, that does not have leatherworking, and managed to get the Hide Belt recipe into her inventory without it changing. But then when I try to mail it to my hunter it changes into the Hide Harness as soon as I loot it from my mailbox.

So, am I doing something wrong or is this recipe simply not available for Horde any longer?

I experimented a little and bought the Hide Harness recipe and posted it on the neutral AH to see if it changed when looted by my ally toons, but noooo, it stayed the same.

--> Edit; I finally managed to get it to my hunter. I had a bit of help from a friend and we just traded the recipe from my friends character to my hunter and voila! recipe learned! That's another one off of my completion list~

Commentaire de tooltip

This item is impossible to transfer Alliance ↔ Horde via the Auction House if your realm has a "merged" AH - in other words, no neutral Auction House.

If you aren't the same faction, you won't even see the listing!

A bug report has been posted to alert Blizzard to the issue, but don't expect a fix any time soon.

Commentaire de Rysie

Not sure if this is a recent change or a bug or what, but I have bought this pattern on my alliance toon and tried to sell it on the AH to buy for my horde LW but neither me or nor my mate could see it from horde side AH. Ticket open now, will update you guys when I find out more.

Got a reply from a GM:
For your first item, the Pattern: Raptor Hide Belt is an Alliance specific item, when posted on the AH or sent over to the Horde side it turns into Pattern: Raptor Hide Harness which does actually have different stats and requires slightly different mats.
This appears to be just for the pattern, the belt itself appears to stay the same stats if you list it.
To get it over from 1 side to another on the AH, for either thing would take 2 people as you can't buy your own auctions, even on a different faction, but, the pattern changing per faction explains why you cannot see it.

Commentaire de Lotharin

After looking, and noticing that there's no info on WHERE to purchase this pattern, I decided to add it myself.

This pattern can be purchase from Androd Fadran In the Arathi Highlands.

Commentaire de Duxjan

I can confirm Patron : Ceinture en peau de raptor is still being sold by Androd Fadran.

(pattern is still on respawn timer ofc, so you might need to camp the vendor for a (long) while)

Commentaire de Serujuunin

So, I don't think this pattern can be shared with Horde characters. I purchased it on my Alliance paladin, put it up on the AH, and my third party Horde character couldn't even see it on the AH. I'm going to play with it some more and see if I can find a solution, but for now, it seems that it's unattainable for Horde.

Commentaire de Fyler

Can confirm that the pattern itself is NOT learnable by Horde characters. I bought it on an alliance alt of mine, and listed it on the AH, and had my girlfriend log in and she couldn't see the pattern. What a bummer. Something so silly that would be an easy fix.

Commentaire de Voniazmogis

In 9.2.5 it is possible to use cross-faction to trade this pattern to a horde character while inside an instance. However, it's still not possible to learn the pattern.

Proof: https://i.imgur.com/X4TYMwZ.png

Commentaire de Arceus15

Hey Collectors,
after my 3rd Ticket about this Pattern, a GM told the following
German: "Das "Muster: Raptorbalgharnisch" ist kein Rezept welches Allianz-Charakter erlernen können. Zumindesten derzeit noch nicht, Feedback dazu ist wie angemerkt aber willkommen. "
English: "The Pattern: Raptor Hide Harness is not a recipie which an alliance character can learn. At least for the moment, you are very welcome to send feedback."

So maybe in the near future we can finally learn this.

Commentaire de SubMatrix

It appears to be impossible to collect this recipe on a horde character.

If you mail the recipe cross-faction from alliance to horde, it turns into Patron : Harnais en peau de raptor for the receiving horde character. Mailing it back will convert it back to the original recipe.

If you try to post it on the AH, it will not be viewable by horde characters.

If you want this appearance, you'll either need to buy a belt off the AH (if you can ever find one), or learn the recipe on an alliance character and craft it.

Commentaire de Shadowsofme

Can confirm still sells, got it today 15/09/22

Commentaire de gellehar

Still has the issue of converting to the other factions recipe in at this point in DF, so no current way to obtain both recipes for collectors.

Commentaire de addmydataz

Ok.... this is Crazy with a Capital K.

I've read through the comments here multiple times over years and every time it's the same.... this Pattern can't be learned by Horde, it's Alliance Only, it changes to Raptor Hide Harness if you buy it as a Hordie... And I actually tried acquiring this Pattern a few years ago through Booty Bay.. and it changed, as multiple Commentators have stated, once I got it in my Mailbox. I took it out, and it changed from the Belt to the Harness.

Completely Unlearnable, and yet it still shows in my Leatherworking List as a Pattern I could learn... if only I could get it Unchanged into my twitching fingers. Multiple attempts Failed, even having an Alliance Friend post one for me, I couldn't see it. Irrespective of several Commentators here saying "Yes, you can learn it! Just hop three times on your left foot while wearing a Purple Tutu and playing the Swaziland National Anthem on a Harmonica and it will MAGICALLY appear as Learned in your Leatherworking Tome!"..... I've tried several variations on the theme and none have worked. it just Mocks Me... sitting there on the List of Classical Recipes I will Never Have.

Until today. 24 Jan 23. I checked the Auction House for recipes I hadn't learned yet, As Usual the ones I DIDN'T have were hideously Overpriced (IMHO), and I quickly scrolled down them... and there was a Green Pattern. Pattern: Raptor Hide Belt. I looked at it, then again, then again and then clicked on it and gave it a long, slow, thorough Examination... and something about that Pattern was OFF! And it slowly dawned on me that I shouldn't be able to see that Pattern ... at least if I was correct. So I came straight here, Again, and re-read everything.

Then i tried Buying It. For a little over 2000 Gold, I gambled. I threw the money at Ms. Moo in Orgrimmar and ran for the Mailbox. Opened it up, clicked on the Pattern... and it's in my bag. Unchanged. Green Letters, shows as a standard Recipe that has no "Already Learned" red script.

I'm afraid to touch it. I'm going to TEST this with a couple characters before i try Learning the one I just bought, see if it can be SEEN... and mailed with no Change. Report follows!

EDIT: 1 Day later..... I camped Androd overnight as he didn't have the Pattern when I arrived with an Alliance character. This morning I was able to see/purchase the Raptor Hide Belt pattern and return to Ironforge to post it in the Auction House. Switching over to Orgrimmar, I was able to see the Pattern in the AH with THREE different characters, only one of whom was a Leatherworker! Unable to purchase it from myself, I returned to Ironforge, canceled the Auction, then mailed it to a Horde non-leatherworker, who pulled it from the mailbox with No Change. It was STILL Pattern: Raptor Hide Belt. I then mailed it to my Leatherworker, who, once again, pulled it out of the mailbox with No Change, displaying No Text indicating I had Learned it. I compared the Original I Purchased from the AH a day before, no differences noted, crossed my fingers aaaannnd.... Badda Bing Badda BOOM! It is LEARNED!

For years I tried in various ways with assistance from Friends on both sides of Azeroth, Guildmates and not, to acquire this Pattern, finally resigning myself to never completing my Classic Recipes List, but SOMEHOW this Pattern is now transferable to Horde!

Commentaire de Apolyptica

From the 10.0.5 patch notes :
Pattern: Raptor Hide Harness and Pattern: Raptor Hide Belt can now both be learned by players of either faction.

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Patron : Ceinture en peau de raptor

Niveau d'objet 1

Utilise: Vous apprend à confectionner une Ceinture en peau de raptor.
Travail du cuir classique (165) requis

Prix de Vente: 6 25

Ceinture en peau de raptor
Niveau d'objet 19
Lié quand équipé

Taille	Cuir

Armure : 3
+2 [Agilité or Intelligence]
+2 Endurance
Durabilité 40 / 40
Niveau 12 requis

Prix de Vente: 37

Requiert Peau de raptor (4), Cuir lourd (4), Bobine de fil raffiné (2)
Composants optionnels : [] (#48)

Cet objet sera converti en Patron : Harnais en peau de raptor si vous transférez en Horde.

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Cet objet peut être acheté dans Hautes-terres Arathies .

Patron : Ceinture en peau de raptor

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