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Commentaire de 148709

Drop parfois sur Moroes à Karazhan. Si le groupe est en maitre du butin, il peut distribuer cette formule (liée quand ramassée) à un non enchanteur donc il faut faire attention lors de l'attribution.

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Commentaire de yoink

I got this enchant from Moroes the other night, I am not 375 yet, but I will be soon.

I am on Cenarius Horde.

Commentaire de 20387

I got this from Moroes on Eredar (Alliance)

Commentaire de Starfox

"... and attack speed slightly."

Yea, it's +2% so really slightly :>

Commentaire de 19117

Big Bad Wolf Claw with Mongoose. 125 thrown shots, 15 bow shots.
Zero procs. Assumption is that within a small margin of error it doesn't proc from ranged. So stick with you 35 agility unless you are raptor strike spec'd -_-

Commentaire de Reanna

Can we get an update on what color/style glow this adds to a weapon?

Commentaire de Reznap

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7178/mongoosenn5.jpg

I can confirm that the lightning speed effect does indeed stack.

Commentaire de 25412

I'm curious, anyone out there have this enchant master looted to them? I'm wondering since my raid group always uses master loot, and the master looter is not an enchanter, if he'll even be able to see it if it drops.

Commentaire de Gymnos

The amount you should expect to pay for this enchant is around 942 gold. :p

Commentaire de 33359

Does anyone have a feel for how often the enchant procs from a single weapon? Is it similar to Crusader in frequency? I'm trying to get a feel if the 15 Agi enchant or this enchant would be better in PvE. Thanks.

Commentaire de Gere

I'd run a procwatch on it but I only have it on my OH until I upgrade my Drakefist hammer. I guess I could go autoattack something with just my OH weapon equipped.

Commentaire de 34029

Just wondering, with sword combat spec'd rogue, with the "chance for extra attack," would this have a chance of proc'ing on that "extra attack," if so, that would make it seem to proc most with a combat sword rogue, than any other class, of course it also depends on weapon speed, but still.

Commentaire de Primax

How long does the proc effect last for?

What is the proc rate like?

Commentaire de 36866

Proc Watch in Karazhan for 4 hours....Mongoose on Emerald Ripper (1.8 spd) and Riftmaker (1.8 spd)....3.6 ppm. Proc watch on single Mongoose on Emerald Ripper over same time period in Karazhan week prior...2.6 ppm. Correction on the above post, it's a 10 second buff. When 1 hand stacks on itself, the timer extends to 13-15 seconds.

Commentaire de 37727

i currently have mongoose on my malchazeen, and 15agi on my blade of the unrequited. is it worth it to replace the 15agi on my offhand with mongoose. mats are not a problem to obtain.

Commentaire de Abaddon2501

I have this enchant on my rogues main hand Blinkstrike "http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31332" with 5/5 in Sword Specialization and it procs often. Yes it procs about as much as . But if you are using ProcWatch, the first proc will say "You agian Lightning Speed" if it procs agian within 15 seconds it will not say it in combat log but it will rebuff the current proc.

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Lightninghoof&n=Adummim

Commentaire de 37560

The lightning speed will reduce a weapon's speed from 2.60 to 2.55, roughly.

Dual-wielding weapons both enchanted with mongoose, and both procs, a further reduction to 2.50, roughly.

It would seem like the weapon speed increase is negligible.

120 agility is VERY nice though.

Commentaire de 27334

4/3/2007: 2.0.10 Patch changed the icon of the mongoose enchant from the BlueLighting icon (shown in the screen shot) to the revised image. The bolt now has splash damage around the impact point.

Commentaire de Akane

I'm wondering when any of the karazhan enchants drop... if the loot mode is set to master loot still everyone will see the roll o just the master looter (even if he is not enchanter), coz if this drop and all enchanters get to roll there could be some ninja! <:o

Commentaire de 41292

Does anyone know if this works with druids in bear or cat form??

Commentaire de Vesper

Vitality (rogue talent) also affects the 120 agility when you gain Lightning Speed. The 2% increase to agility is almost neglible but every bit helps. So when you have 2/2 Vitality you will gain 122-123 agility (whether you gain 2 or 3 agility is based on rounding factors).

The attack speed is multiplicated with all other attack speed increases (from abilities/procs/trinkets and pots). For example with SnD up your attack speed is increased to 133%.

Very expensive enchant and worth every penny :D

Commentaire de 38144

The enchant glow has been changed again. It is now a softer green, similar to the one found on the +15 Agility enchant.

Commentaire de 43663

The question is, can the new good loocking glow be seen through the glows that the weapon has without enchants? For example can you see the glow effect of mongoose in your Gladiator's Slicer?

Commentaire de 48582

is this enchant good for a tank warrior ? with the sun eater (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29362) ??

Commentaire de adamthemute

Would this be a good enchant on a 2 hander?

Commentaire de 39607

Guys, you all talk about sword rogue... so how about dagger rogues? Is it good for mutilate specced rogue and on what hand?

Commentaire de 48582

whats better for a tank this or battel master ?

Commentaire de 14687

Enough about rogues, this is a great tanking weapon enchant. The proc adds 4% dodge rating and 300 armor. It is THE tanking weapon enchant bar none and it procs about the same rate as crusader.

Commentaire de reveal

how is this enchant for arms warriors ?
I'm almost done upgrading my weapon from thunder to deep thunder ...
And doubting between getting this or just +35 agil / Savagery

Commentaire de Kerghan

I got this on my arms warrior's axe recently (after patch 2.1) and I'm not satisfied with it. I've found that it rarely procs and when it does, the bonus to your critical strike percentage is less than one would imagine because agility seems to have diminishing returns. The more you get, the less crit you'll get out of it. I expected the boost to be around 4.80 percent, since i have 118 agility and that gives me 4.72 percent extra crit according to the tooltip when I highlight it on my character sheet, but the bonus from the 120 agility proc is 3.64. The 2 percent attack speed is kind of a joke...yeah, so I deal normal (white) melee damage and build rage 2 percent faster for the relatively short duration, assuming my target is constantly standing right next to me (which is rare when fighting a lot of classes in pvp). Big deal.

I'd assume that Mongoose is much better for any class that attacks really fast. The buff lasts 15 seconds, so without any other attack speed modifiers, that extra crit percentage is only good for about 4 of my autoattacks after it procs. A class that attacks fast could potentially hit many more times during the duration of the proc.

I probably should have gone with Savagery instead. The constant effect is much more reliable and far cheaper, not to mention the cool new bleeding effect. Also, keep in mind that the damage gained from the extra ap of Savagery is also doubled when you crit, since melee crits are double damage. I see it this way: slightly extra damage constantly with each attack is probably more favorable than each attack having a chance to slightly increase your chance to deal much more damage for a very short while. There's a lot of luck involved with that.

Commentaire de Juggernaut

The proc rate is awesome, imo this enchant is a lot better than savagery for 2h warriors.

Commentaire de Smorfty

so I guess this is the best tanking enchant too?

Commentaire de Grimerz

With current auction house prices, this is a 350-400g enchant with competitive pricing
Void Crystal - low 20's apiece
Arcane Dust - 40-50g a stack (i got a really good deal on 2 stacks for 50g)
Planar Essence x10 - 45-50g
Shards - 15-20g apiece

So be prepared to drop a few hundered ^_^

(came off Arthas)

Commentaire de 52693

ok, what does mongoos even do to your wepon, other then make it spark lightning

Commentaire de BaronB

The prices has gone up a lot.. (or maybe just our server where evrything has always been expansive..) Yes im talking about Horde on Frostwhisper^^ .. as ah is atm:

Void - 40g each = 240g
Arcane dust - 60-75g stack = 120-150g
Planar essencex10 - 70-80g = 70-80g
Prismatics - 30-35g each = 300-350g
total = 730-820g

So.. yeah... but its still worth it! xD

Commentaire de emanuelrc

Mongoose Dual-Proc's if you have it on both weapons, but also resets it self... If your main or off hand proc's twice it will reset. It will only dual-proc if both weapons proc within 15seconds of each other.

http://static.filefront.com/images/personal/e/emanuelrc/101492/cydzcxvttf.jpg

Rc @ Grim Batol
"...rogues do it from behind"

Commentaire de 45360

I'm still in a battle regarding this enchant and http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=42620 the next patch.

Anyone that has any calculation with the PPM making this enchant better than the above for a tank? :-)

Commentaire de 75468

Hey I am an MS warrior and am raid DPS. I am really contemplating whether Mongoose would be good for raiding on my 2H or if I should just stick to savagery. I'd appreciate some help in making this decision. I have seen alot of people in my battlegroup who have Gorehowl/ Axe of the Gronn Lords using mongoose on their weapon.

Commentaire de 5027

This page is just for the formula drop! Please keep comments about the actual enchantment on its own page!

http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27984

Commentaire de 49327

as with most BoP recipes that have a static drop area, the requirement to see it is to have someone with the tradeskill to use it present so the droprate won't be accurate as some groups will have killed Moroes without an enchanter present.

however, it's likely that the majority of raids going in there would have an enchanter present to turn the epic drops into shards when nobody wants them. The droprate may be close due to that but it should be slightly higher then stated.

Commentaire de 86229

So....from what I've read so far it works best on the heavy slow weapons best. If thats the case, is this enchant better than the 35 agility enchant? I mean the 35 agility is constant while the mongoose has to proc. I'm just not sure which is right for me. I'm a Ret Paladin with a two-hander that is 3.80 attack speed. Thanks for any input on this matter.

Commentaire de 86573

Does the haste stack with Flurry and/or Thundering Skyfire Diamond?

As a MS warrior, i'd be a happy guy.

Thanks for any information! :)

Commentaire de 78124

The following is written from a Protection Warrior / Tank's POV. It does *not* apply to melee DPS players.

For a tank who is debating which enchantment, Battlemaster or Mongoose, he/she should put on their weapon, it's helpful to consider two different aspects about both of these enchantments: Threat, and Damage Mitigation.

*
*** THREAT ***
*

Mongoose increases agility by 120 and weapon speed by 2% for 15 sec; this effect will proc roughly 1.4 times a minute with a fast tanking sword (thank you jmdbcool for your excellent explanation above), which means that this effect will be active on average 21 seconds out of every minute.

For warriors, that 120 agility translates to:

- 3.6% increase chance to crit
- 240 armor class increase
- 4.0% increase chance to dodge

To see how much that 3.6% chance to crit affects your threat, we have to draw a combat table. (Be sure to read the WoWWiki article on combat tables http://www.wowwiki.com/Attack_table if you aren't familiar with the concept.) Now let's assume that a warrior, Imatank, is a 70 human who has 5 extra racial skill points in the weapon of his choice, a sword, that combined with his attack power generates 150 damage per second and a 10% chance to crit. Against a level 73 mob or ?? boss and without any +hit gear, his combat table would look like

Imatank Attacking ??:

% to miss ---------------- 6.0%
% to dodge --------------- 5.6%
% to parry --------------- 5.6%
% glancing blow ---------- 25.0%
% to block --------------- 5.6%
% to crit ---------------- 10.0%
% to hit ----------------- 42.2%

Since crits strike for 200% damage, and glancing blows ~70%, the total amount of DPS landing on the ?? boss comes out to...

150 * ( 42.2% + + )
= 150 * ( 79.7% )
= 119.55 DPS

Over a 60 sec time period, that totals up to roughly 7,175 threat.

Now, when we add the 3.6% crit chance and 2% attack speed increase (simplified as a 2% increase in DPS) from the Mongoose buff, that combat table changes into...

Imatank Attacking ??:

% to miss ---------------- 6.0%
% to dodge --------------- 5.6%
% to parry --------------- 5.6%
% glancing blow ---------- 25.0%
% to block --------------- 5.6%
% to crit ---------------- 13.6%
% to hit ----------------- 38.6%

150 * ( 38.6% + + ) * 1.02
= 150 * ( 83.3% ) * 1.02
= 127.45 DPS

127.45 - 119.55 = 7.9 DPS increase

Keeping in mind that this buff is only active for 21 sec each minute, the extra damage/threat generated by this buff each minute is 166.

How does this compare with the other main weapon enchantment, Battlemaster?

Battlemaster has a chance on hit to heal all party members for 180 - 300 (avg 240), and it has a similar proc rate as Mongoose at 1.4 proc per minute with a fast weapon. Assuming that the wielder's party members are all taking damage, and none of the procs are over-healing (which generates no threat), the threat generated comes out to...

240 heal * 5 PartyMembers * 1.4 PPM * 0.5 ThreatPerHeal = 840 threat

Realistically, only half of a raiding party is going to be taking damage at any given time, so that threat amount is reduced to an average of 400 threat per minute. (However, there is the added advantage that if things start to get out of hand for a party and all members start taking damage, a well-timed Battlemaster proc that maximizes the amount of threat generated could help divert attention away from the accosted party members and onto the tank.)

Comparing these two numbers, 166 Threat Per Minute generated by Mongoose and 400 threat generated by Battlemaster, it is evident that BATTLEMASTER GENERATES MORE THREAT THAN MONGOOSE.

*
*** DAMAGE MITIGATION ***
*

Remember that the 120 agility buff from Mongoose not only increased a warrior's critical strike chance by 3.6%, but also increased his armor by 240 and dodge chance by 4.0%. How does that affect his overall damage mitigation? Again, a combat table is necessary to analyze the change.

Let's suppose that our Warrior from earlier, Imatank, is again fighting a 73 mob or ?? boss. Imatank has lots of blue equipment, but no epics, and as a result has 12000 HP, 12000 armor, and 490 points of defense. He also has a 15% chance to dodge, parry and block. Therefore, if we assume that the boss is dealing a conservative 2000 DPS to Imatank, his combat table vs. the ?? boss would look like...

?? attacking Imatank:

% to miss ---------------- 10.0%
% to dodge --------------- 14.4%
% to parry --------------- 14.4%
% to block --------------- 14.4% * (absorbs roughly 25% damage vs. Bosses)
% to crit ---------------- 0.0% ** (in theory)
% crushing blow --------- 15.0% *** (150% damage)
% to hit ----------------- 31.8%

2000 * ( 31.8% + + + )
= 2000 * ( 65.1% )
= 1302 unavoided DPS

Since armor mitigation against a level 73 or ?? opponent is = AC / ( AC + 11960 ), Imatank's 12000 armor class gives him 50.08% damage mitigation, which further reduces his incoming damage to a total of * 650 DPS * , unavoided, unmitigated. With 12000 hp, he has * 18.5 * seconds to live before he dies.

With the 4% dodge and 240 ac Mongoose buff on, however, his combat table now appears as...

?? attacking Imatank:

% to miss ---------------- 10.0%
% to dodge --------------- 18.4%
% to parry --------------- 14.4%
% to block --------------- 14.4% * (absorbs roughly 25% damage vs. Bosses)
% to crit ---------------- 0.0% ** (in theory)
% crushing blow --------- 15.0% *** (150% damage)
% to hit ----------------- 27.8%

2000 * ( 27.8% + + + )
= 2000 * ( 61.1% )
= 1222 unavoided DPS

With Imatank's armor class now at 12240 thanks to Mongoose, his new damage mitigation of 50.58% further reduces his incoming damage to a total of * 604 DPS * , unavoided, unmitigated. With 12000 hp, he now has * 19.9 * seconds to live before he dies.

According to this sample study, the Mongoose buff reduces the amount of damaged being absorbed by a tank by 7.6%, or 46dps. Over the average 21 second duration (1.4 PPM * 15 sec), Mongoose will mitigate 966 points of damage per minute. Compare this with the Battlemaster enchant, which only heals on average 336 points of damage over the same time period.

Comparing these two numbers, 966 points of damage mitigation from Mongoose vs. 336 points of healing from Battlemaster, it is clear that MONGOOSE MITIGATES MORE DAMAGE THAN BATTLEMASTER.

*
*** CONCLUSIONS ***
*

So back to the original question: Which enchantment should a warrior choose for his/her tanking weapon? The answer depends on both the weapon, and the situation.

In situations within heroics and facing "trash" raid mobs, where threat is unwieldy to manage and rage difficult to generate, a weapon geared more towards DPS (Fireguard, or Blinkstrike) and enchanted with the threat-heavy Battlemaster is ideal. However, during dangerous boss battles, where a well-timed dodge can prevent a costly raid-wipe, a more defensive weapon (Sun Eater or King's Defender) combined with the damage mitigation of Mongoose is far more appropriate.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

Commentaire de 87093

I had this with my Warrior before I created a new account.

Lunar Crescent + Mongoose Ench = Amazing.
Ofcourse it's better with 1 handed but I really liked this :)
Pretty expensive but awesome when you got it, worth to get!

Commentaire de 96303

yea you can enchant a 2h with mongoose, its on my deep thunder and i reccomend it. i know savagery seems better, but mongoose gives me about 3% crit chance and speed.also 240+ armor

Commentaire de gric111

if the choice is between battlemaster and mongoose, mongoose is probably the better choice however a smart tank should never use a proc reliant enchant for anything IMO 20 agility constantly gives you less mitigation then mongoose but is constant there is not relying on it procing to do anything you get your dodge crit armor all constants

Commentaire de 100627

I've recently crafted a Drakefist Hammer and I'm having second thoughts whether to pay an enchanter to put mongoose because when I upgrade the Drakefist Hammer into a Dragonmaw the mongoose enchant might not be there anymore. Will the enchant like Mongoose be removed when a weapon like the Drakefist hammer gets upgraded to its 2nd and finally 3rd form?

Commentaire de ooiownedjoo

Does the glow stack over gladiator wep's normal glow??

Commentaire de 98702

I got a triple buff from procs. how?
just swing till you get both weapons proc and switch your main hand with a third weapon enchanted with mongoose. with any luck you will see the 3rd buff popping.
theoreticaly you can manage to do 4 ( havent done this one yet) .
just do as i said and enjoy some sweet numbers :D

Commentaire de 105289

Is there a specific Rogue Talent build that would be best for dual wielding daggers with mongoose?

Commentaire de 104248

Doesn't devastate qualify as an actual weapon swing ? Therefore, even with a slow weapon, won't MTing toons see more procs? Not sure if any of the proc rate tests you guys did count that in, and I'm not savvy enough to test myself.

Commentaire de 107632

Quick question: The weapon speed effect applies to both weapons, yes? If I apply it to my main hand, it will give the speed boost to both my main hand and my offhand? I mean, that would only make sense, but I wanted to check before I shelled out 600g on mats for this.

Commentaire de IronVeins

Stacking Questions
- If you have Mongoose on one weapon and Crusader on the other weapon when Dual Wielding will the effects stack?
- Does Mongoose overwrite itself or stack with the initial proc for a double effect if it procs twice on one weapon within the duration?
- Can added swings from talents like Reckoning or Rogue's sword spec, special attacks suck as Stormstrike or Devastate, or any other method of adding more attacks per minute increase the proc rate, or is it set in stone at 1.4ppm?

I've heard a lot of different answers and I'm looking for some proof one way or another.

Commentaire de Khaled

Does it proc in druid forms?

Commentaire de 134449

can anyone please tell me if the mongoose effect will still stack off of procs on 2 different weapons. The current comments say yes. But i was told by someone that it doesnt. All of the current comment look pretty old :S
thanks

Commentaire de 105071

hmmm... I wonder what this looks like on a mace, hmmm?!

( can someone show me?)

Commentaire de pik4chu

it does, read the comments please.

Commentaire de 147819

Hello i was asking my self, whats the best enchant on a 2hander mongoose, executioner or savagery.
I am sittign with this question a very long time and i really want a answer on it :P
Thx for you time ^^

Commentaire de 110498_

mongoose rulez! yesterday i saw rogue 60lvl with 2x sword with mongoose and he kill all without problems :p

Commentaire de 153200

I am making a 49 Orc Warrior twink with dual Flurry Axes, would this be a good enchant for both of them?

I was also looking at Potency (+20 strength), but wasn't sure.

~Theard

Commentaire de 96118

This enchant graphic does not show up on the gladiators left and right rippers. What a bummer.

Commentaire de cawfee

The proc rate on this is actually quite amazing, provided you have a fast enough weapon. So far, as a rogue with sword spec and Mongoose on both of them, I manage to get at least one proc per mob. The event of them proccing at the same time isn't too far off either, so dual Mongoose is definitely something to be considered unless there's a more viable option for your spec.

Commentaire de 165707

Hey, is mongoose better then executioner on a ret pally?

Commentaire de 148723

Now what about mongoose on say...a twink 39 rogue with Vanquisher's Sword and Sword of Omen? Would it be better than firey or other enchants?

Commentaire de 135362

I've done karazhan plenty of times, never ever seen it drop and never gotten it -_-
Exalted and gotten all the gear I needed and DE'd them already :(
I wanna sell mongoose for ridiculous prices >.<

Commentaire de 23149

im gonna dual wield mongoose on my ENH shaman! thoughts?????

Commentaire de 101565

The enchanting drop rates from Karazhan are annoying, stupid, and even more annoying.

Exalted a few times over and my enchanter doesn't have a single one. Very very depressing.

Commentaire de 166917

It is true about the stack effect if on both weapons and dual wielding. very very nice for a rogue. also I've noticed it sometimes procs when I sap lol which is random

Commentaire de 112611

Weapon enchants are now shown at the character selection screen.

Commentaire de 194128

does mongoose proc while in like cat form and stuff if your a feral druid?

Commentaire de 201766

Does mongoose proc in druid forms? I might want this for my epic two hander (I'm a feral druid), but if it won't proc in cat or bear form, I'll get something else. Plz respond.

Commentaire de 166026

I'm a protection warrior with enchanting, thought it would be nice getting this one and making it for myself. I really like still doing karazhan as well but this enchant will never drop I think. Already put an adamantite chain weapon on my sword now.
Screw being like everyone else anyway, I got myself some extra avoidance and reduced disarm time.

Commentaire de 204666

i think mongoose is best for rogues but i hate its for lvl 35+ weapons and all the mats costes over 606g on my server. the mats, void crystal x6, large prismatic shard x10, greater planar essence x80, arcane dust x40,

Commentaire de 209422

Increases your DPS by 5%.

Costs around 500 gold total.

Commentaire de 179892

put a screen shot up of a combat log showin mongoose proc off a range attack ive had it happen twice once with my bow and once with my thrown wep the only thing that happen between the shot and the proc was i got healed may have been glitch but u never know
has yet to be put up... :(

Commentaire de Samah

I've done Karazhan on two toons almost every single week since it first opened, and I've never seen this drop. Worst drop rate ever.

Commentaire de 40837

What does it costs average?

Commentaire de 223320

No comment :P

Commentaire de makron

If you are looking for haste buff, this is up only when it procs.
You'd gain more speed with http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6043 if you are using twohander :) ( permanent 1.27% )

Commentaire de nemeru

so... as I saw on one of the screenshots, a druid with Staff of the Forest Lord enchanted with mongoose. I though until now, that it doesn't proc in cat form... or does it? can sumone confirm? I'm getting really confused ^^

Commentaire de Madbagofhorses

Anyone have a rough estimate for how much this goes for?

I'm sure it differs from server to server... Anyone have a general idea?

Commentaire de oppewala

Since 3.0.2 mongoose now procs in druid forms :D

Commentaire de 150308

This is currently the best Enhancement Shaman enchant since Shaman's strength to attack power got nerfed to 1:1, and agility got buffed and became 1:1.

Commentaire de TheWeeh

New stuff... Weapon enchants now proc in druid forms.. At least fiery / icy chill / lifestealing did for me.

Commentaire de olguin

So what do you think, will Moroes be soloable in t7 level gear at 80? I just broke into Kara on my enchanter, so theres no way I'm getting this...but if i could grind for it solo i stand a chance.

Commentaire de Infuria

...still the best enchant for 1h dps in wotlk at present.

/sigh.

Commentaire de 261994

Anyone know if the 2% haste is a set 2% or if it is actually 31.52 haste rating?

Commentaire de 78028

As of 1st december 2008, I can confirm that upon proc, mongoose still grants 120 agi. The enchant does not have reduced effect for players above level 70, if someone is wondering.

Commentaire de fusion305

is the scroll tradeable?

Commentaire de 78077

Amazingly, despite the absolute shedload of new enchants, this is probably still the pick of enchants to consider for a tank.

I can't see anything to suggest that Mongoose has suffered the same diminishing returns that the Crusader enchant did in Burning Crusade. This means that +120 agility and weapon speed increase provides as much mitigation and threat as any other alternative currently available in-game.

Commentaire de 258204

I'm curious as to how this fares in WOTLK in comparison to other weapon enchantments.

Commentaire de 150817

I had to test it for myself, but the agi and attack bonus does stack if you use 2 different weapons (dual wield obviously), so far none of the new WOTLK enchants beat it.

Commentaire de 272526

Does anybody have numbers for level80 - Did the proc rate get lower/the proc weaker like it was with crusader or did it stay as it was at level70?
(I'm curious from a tank's POV - I'm not really happy with the new enchants and mongoose seems to be the best enchant around)

Commentaire de 216064

anybody knows the % to proc mongoose per hit?

Commentaire de Lupyn

Mongoose is the best enchant to have as a tanking feral druid. It procs like mad (especially when AoE tanking 2+ mobs). I have the +120 AGI buff up 80% of the time, which is much better than the +35 AGI enchant which is in effect 100% of the time

Commentaire de paloka

Please make this trainable allready :S

Commentaire de Draenors

I don't think they should make it trainable, but rather that they should come up with new and better tanking enchants. Titanguard was too good? Okay, change it to something else, or come up with enchants for respectively Paladin, Warrior and Druid.

Commentaire de 294806

Cleared Kara every week for over a year. This , nor sunfire or soulfrost would drop. So thats around 70 Kara clears with 0 Drops, nice blizzard ggggggg.

Commentaire de 278544

Could an enchanter with under 375 enchanting be able to pick this up if it dropped? Or it's probably just safer to get to 375 first.

Commentaire de 127401

should mongoose work on a druid's staff when he's in shapeshift?
(sorry if i made any gramar mistakes)

Commentaire de 326247

Ah yes, Good Old Mongoose. This enchant is still the best agility to weapon even with the expansion WOTLK. This enchant is perfect for a rogue that duels maces. Also nice for tanks or anyone that uses melee weapons. When it procs, you know it. Took my chanter approx 2 years for this formula to drop (and win the roll) in Kara from a trash mob. If you are an enchanter, this is a must have item, nuff said.

Commentaire de patabe

As an enhancement shaman I find it very comfortable to have Berserking on my slow Main hand and Mongoose on my fast offhand. MH with WF OH with FT guarantees top DPS.

Commentaire de 334904

If you're a level 80 Rogue fighting more than 1 enemy, and you have Mongoose on both weapons, Fan of Knives is a great way to proc this, because it throws BOTH weapons at every enemy in range.

If you have 2 enemies attacking you for instance, that's 4 attacks and 4 chances to proc, and if you're fighting 3, it's 6 attacks/chances to proc, and so forth. It's when I use Fan of Knives on groups of enemies that I get the most frequent Double-procs of Mongoose.

It makes Fan of Knives even more deadly for those 15 seconds, or it lets you wear down 1 important enemy really quick. 2 if you have Blade Flurry.

Commentaire de 348402

I enchanted my http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41257#comments with Mongoose enchant. But I cant see the 120+ agility benefit on my stats, and neither the awesome mongoose glow. Anyone?

Commentaire de Rhod

With 3.1, what is the 'character' level requirement for mongoose? Is it 35/60/70?

Thanks

Commentaire de 256135

Good news to everyone still wanting this recipe. the drop rate for enchanting recipes in pre-wotlk instances/raids has been greatly increased.. did a run tonight and got Mongoose, Sunfire, Soulfrost and surefooted. That's all of them in one run. madness

Commentaire de Entint

As of patch 3.1.0, the drop rate on all of the below enchanting formulas has been increased to Guaranteed (100%). This data was taken from the WoW Armory.

Commentaire de 88937

Drop 100% confirmed.

Commentaire de killerch0

It is now a %100 drop. Finaly I have mine

Commentaire de 330765

lawl 100% drop rate
got this along with sunfire and soulfrost in 1 run

Commentaire de Ramona

100% drop rate now, just like on the other recipes in kara. And increased drop rate on BC recipes which drop off dungeons.

Commentaire de 149581

Sometimes is 50% chance
Wich % is occasionally?
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Commentaire de 246914

Being a level 70 raid encounter, what class and gear would one need to solo Kara, if that's possible. If not, what kind of skeleton crew could run it most efficiently? I'd really like to get some of these enchants for my book!

Commentaire de avdeev

I think, this enchant now is the best for warrior tank, I am warrior, and I test and Mongoose and Blade Ward - proc is highest.

I tested it in Ulduar on the boss (from Xt to Mimiron) - use 2 enchant - proc in the Mongoose is highest , I think, if you are warrior - to take Mongoose!

TEst was on the sword Titanguard and Mace Shiver.

Imho - Mongoose!

Commentaire de 426717

What's best enchant to put on the Daggers of a Mutilate PvP rogue, using 1.80-1.60 speed Dagggers at both MH and OH?

This Mongoose enchant, or this?

1 of each? I dunno <.<

Commentaire de 427607

Will it work on http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=39291 ? i cant runeforge this sword, so i want to enchant it, i mean that glows.

Commentaire de Tontel

first hand

I see what you did, there.

Commentaire de Healingproof

All TBC Enchants now have 100% drop chance just like pre TBC enchants had 100% dropchance when TBC arrived.

Commentaire de 453856

Does it work on heirlooms?

Commentaire de Anarchy

120 agility is 1.8% dodge at level 80, for paladins, I assume it's pretty similar or the same for other classes too.

Commentaire de mercutiouk

For rogues on a budget Mongoose is only around 5 DPS behind Beserking once you reach tier 9 gear levels. The only problem is crit-capping. If you have a trinket or 2 equiped that gives a decent amount of crit (Darkmoon Card: Greatness, Death's Verdict or Dark Matter) Berserking may be better as a straight AP buff.

Commentaire de 179771

Does this enchant work on a Weapon Vellum II?

Commentaire de Cybazaar

Whats is the proc chance of mongoose in WOTLK?

Commentaire de 497642

Does this still proc for Druids in Feral Forms? I know it used to and I had this on my staff but then I took some time off from WoW and came back and it doesnt proc anymore. Did they change it or am I bugged?

Commentaire de 502614

I went into Kara today. Got all 4 enchanting recipes in 1 run. so maybe they are 100% now

Commentaire de chop360

For level 80 Protection warrior:

~1 proc per minute for 15 secs
Armor = +240
Dodge chance = +1.40% (before diminishing returns)
Melee critical strike chance = +1.92%
Melee attack speed = +2% (65.58 haste rating)

Commentaire de 82971

Buff what you gain is Lightning Speed

Commentaire de 137481

Just so everyone knows who may wind up going back to get this enchant, as I plan on doing, it is confirmed to be a 100% drop according to the WoW armory: http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=22559

Commentaire de 25678

Did some proc testing on this and on a paladin it had around 25% uptime (tested in instances and on dummy). With that kind of uptime it would give (at level 80);
0,6% dodge to a druid.
0,5% dodge to a paladin.
0,35% dodge to a warrior/dk
assuming wowwiki numbers are correct about agi to dodge.
Add to this a small amount of haste and crit (approx 0.5% for both) and an even smaller amount of armor (about 60 overall).
More detail about my testing can be found at http://jinxedthought.blogspot.com/2010/05/number-crunching-mongoose.html

Commentaire de 470074

I saw 3 lvl 80 hunters with this today...no joke...=/.

Commentaire de 526684

As of June 16, 2010, the effects of mongoose now give 120 Agility and 30 raw haste rating, instead of 2% haste. Because of this, it is not the best enchant for feral dps anymore. Berserking is now the best, until you get crit capped with white swings, then from what I have heard Black Magic becomes superior, not 100% sure though.

Commentaire de 263349

Mongoose has been stealth nerfed. Originally it was 120 Agility and 2% haste, now it's 120 agility and 30 haste rating. At certain gear levels mongoose was actually better than berserking for fury warriors, but now because of the stealth nerf this seems no longer so.

Commentaire de 482442

I just want to make sure, can this proc from ranged attacks?

Commentaire de KHAxel

What's the drop rate? AtlasLoot says it's 1%, WoWHead says it's 10%, and I got it on the first try with my friend. Barely 2-manned Moroes.

Commentaire de trielementalist

Is Mongoose still viable as an enchant for Cata Content? 120 Agility isn't chump change as it enhances all sorts of stats. Crit, atk pwr, etc. And of course the 2% increase in attack speed. Agility would also increase spell pwr for enhancement shamans also.

Commentaire de WorgN6

I could solo most of Kara as an 80 ret in cat a dungeon blues, some mobs required thought and effort though, but not really the bosses.

Should be reasonable to farm this on any 80 plate or say, warlock.

Commentaire de mummer

Does anyone know if they changed the animation on it?

Commentaire de 860594

I proc'd mongoose!

Commentaire de 984350

Dkgnomy 5 days ago (Patch 4.3.3)
as in patch 4.3 it doesnt drop if u dont have 375 enchanting, went there with my warrior wich has 340 enchanting, and didnt drop any of these

Incorrect, as of 4.3.4 it does drop if you don't have 375 enchanting. It dropped on my DK with 310 enchanting: i.imgur.com/Se9o1.jpg
Whether this means it isn't a 100% drop or it was stealth changed is unknown.

Commentaire de 989308

mongoose on my heavy copper longswords back sheathed

Commentaire de 247797

can druids make use of this in MoP?

Commentaire de Realiti

As of the recent patch, Mongoose can now be applied to heirloom weapons! :D

Commentaire de gbalkam

Update: Mongoose now seems to be the best enchant for a boa. Especially for rogues, with 2 fast weapons. I have actually seen both weapon enchants proc at the same time, that is 180 extra agility plus a bit of haste, which at low levels is deadly.

Since the enchant scales, you can use this all the way to level 77/78 when you will want to replace it with a cata green dagger (77-if you can find one) or toxidunk dagger (for example) a 308 cata blue!

There is a web site with a chart of enchant scaling, so you can use this to compare, OR you can open your guilds profession panel, and compare the enchants there, as it will show you the scaled values for the enchant. Since all enchants can now be applied to any item level weapon, you have a bit more freedom of what to choose, but also you have to think more about your play style and what you want your enchants to do. (ie more dps or more survivability)

**edit... apparently, now with the real procs per minute, elemental force may even be better than mongoose. A level 1 rogue, with 2 elemental force (from experience on my lv1 twink, stacking hit and haste) hits for over 200 dmg. **

Commentaire de dual1tyx

I wrote this on Mangouste just thought I'd add it here too:
Only it applies to those who are looking to get this in 6.0.2 because they think it may be better than Danse d’acier.

"For anybody playing 6.0.2 that might now think that this has become a viable enchant once again, it isn't. You will only get 60 of the 120 agility it says you'll get at level 90.
I thought I'd mention this only because on my realm Mongoose now costs more than Dancing Steel on the AH, I can only assume because the stats are higher, other people might make the same mistake in thinking this."

Commentaire de Zeroheals

Shadowlands Test
Grants 21 Agility and 5 haste
Tested on Warglaives from BT
lasts 14 seconds

Has a slightly shorter ICD by 1-2 sec vs that of Dancing Steel (That grants 31 agility) but lasts 5 seconds longer than Dancing steel.

Commentaire de Aurlemz

As of 4/14/2023 WoW Dragonflight Expansion, this pattern dropped for my first kill my enchanting was 75/75 enchanting. Do not know if it is 100 percent or not since this was my first day trying to farm for it and I got it on the first try. Best of luck.

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Formule : Enchantement d'arme (Mangouste)

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Utilise: Vous apprend à appliquer l’enchantement Mangouste.
Enchante une arme de mêlée de manière permanente. Cette dernière augmente parfois l’Agilité de 23 et la Hâte de 6. Ne peut être appliqué sur des objets d’un niveau supérieur à 320.
Enchantement d’Outreterre (75) requis

Prix de Vente: 1 50

Dépouillé sur: Moroes

Chance de Butin: 6.03%

Formule : Enchantement d'arme (Mangouste)

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