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Commentaire de Maximelene

Le DPS de cette arme est particulièrement élevé pour compenser les flèches. En retirant le dps qu'auraient apporté des flèches, il arrive à un trés bon DPS, mais pas si énorme que ça :p

Et les flèches qu'il tire sont bleues fluo, visibles de trés loin. Pas forcément génial en PvP, c'est trés voyant ^^

Commentaire de Shaelis

Sachant que le meilleur arc avant Thori'dal est l'arc doré de Quel Danas, qui se loot sur les Twins éredars a sunwell (http://fr.wowhead.com/?item=34196), je ne vois pas comment on peut dire que son dps n'est pas si enorme que ca.
A moins que ce soit un "joke".

Arc doré : 97.3 DPS + flèches Temporelles a 53 dps soit 150.3 dps.
Thory'dal : 162.8 dps. (impossibilité de le combiner avec des flèches normales)

Le dps est donc meilleur, de plus :
- Sachant que le tir assuré fait des dégâts en fonction de ceux de base de l'arme et non des flèches, les dégâts de ce tir sont donc accrus, ainsi que le dps du chasseur.

Les autres statistiques :

Le bonus de 17 en agilité, cumulé au + 16 au score de coup critique, au +34 PA et a l'ignore armure, en font l'arc ayant le plus de "stat".
C'est vraiment une arme bien développée dans ce sens.

Certains regretteront peut être sa vitesse de 2.70 qui avec le stuff "Hâte" de sunwell va peut etre nous poser problème au niveau de notre cycle dps. (surtout pour les spé bête justement )

Les pe%^&* bonus qui vont avec :

L'augmentation de la vitesse de tir de 15 % et la création de ses propres munitions, permet de pouvoir s'équiper d'un nouveau sac d'inventaire a la place du carquois, sans pour autant perdre le bonus de vitesse que nous apportaient nos carquois. Et enfin, chose tres appréciée, le chasseur n'aura plus a payer 50 PO de flèches par soirée de raid (en plus de ces réparations), ni ces munitions pour aller "farmer".

(Je n'ai d'ailleurs jamais bien compris pourquoi le Hunter était la seule classe a devoir payer pour farmer -_- )

Commentaire de Turhall

Le même en version française intégrale :

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9656/thoridalax6.jpg

Commentaire de GhostRoxxor

Joli ^^ et utile pour les voleur

Commentaire de GhostRoxxor

Le meilleur arc et tro joli je need O_O

Commentaire de Ectaban

Le dps actuel de l'arc (depuis le retrait des flèches) est de 148.7 (140.4 pour l'arc doré et 138 pour l'arc d'illidan) sauf que l'arc est un 2.7 et que maintenant les bonnes armes sont forcément des 2.9 et 3.0 (ce que sont l'arc doré et l'arc d'illidan).

Donc je me demande si Thoridal dont je suis un "heureux possesseur" possède encore quoi que ce soit de légendaire...
Tout le concepte de cette arme était d’agrandir la plage de dommages de SS car absence de munition, ce concept par littéralement en fumée! son dps est faiblard pour du légendaire (en aucun cas meilleur que l'arc doré vu qu'il est trop rapide).

La seul chose qui dit que cette arme est légendaire c'est sa couleur ! et un mystérieux "équippé : tir des flèches magiques" qui semble n’être rien de plus que les vestiges de son coté légendaire, un texte sans effet.

Si quelqu'un a repéré un effet quelconque de ce dernier, je lui serais gré de nous le partager :)

Commentaire de Bobinelf

Pour moi c'est l'arme a distance la plus belle du jeu et c'est vraiment dommage que blibli ne nous autorise pas a la transmo :'(......enfin il y a toujours l'arc dorée de Quel'thalas pour nous consoler même si les deux piques vert pointant vers l'arriere gâche un peu sa beauté!

Commentaire de bast05

Cette arme est le seul arc légendaire du jeu avec Arc long brins-de-Néant
mais ce dernier se détruisant au bout de 15 minutes, Thori'dal reste le seul et unique arc légendaire. Il fait partie des 9 armes légendaires disponible en jeu (sans compter les armes du combat face à Kael'Thas Haut-Soleil), il valide le haut-fait: Nous sommes légendaires.

Commentaire de Galayan

Quand on le loot on a http://fr.wowhead.com/achievement=5186 comme HF avec si on le fais avec quelqu'un de notre guilde

Commentaire de Exhilium

39 runs and no legendary bow ... it still loot when you are a warrior ?

Commentaire de TehxBaby

Je viens de le loot il y à quelque minute ! :D Pas facile à avoir, bonne chance à ceux qui le farm ! :)

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Commentaire de SeTM

Equip: Thori'dal generates magical arrows when the bow string is drawn. Does not use ammo. - cheat.

Commentaire de Beska

Evidently (since it's not on any currently killable boss' loot table, including the penultimate boss), it drops from Kil'jaeden, the last boss in the Sunwell Plateau. Other weapons suggested to drop from him include:
Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury,
Apolyon, the Soul-render,
Golden Staff of the Sin'dorei,
Sunflare
Crux of the Apocalypse.

Commentaire de lill87

Rogue item!

Commentaire de Naad

Hahaha, you are stupid.

Commentaire de Typh00n

For once you will not be yelled at for saying: This is a very good hunter item, since we all want to get rid of the Ammo pouch / Quiver, and lose that ammunition cost. Good luck getting it!

Commentaire de Schmulle

For all of you asking why it has the insane amount of dps, it is beacause the bow "makes" its own arrows, therefore you can remove the arrow/bullet dps from the Timeless arrow/Shell (which I assume every hunter raiding Sunwell is using), making it a 95,8 dps bow. Even if the DPS isnt anything special (without ammunition) the steady shots will be insane thanks to the high base damage.

Commentaire de blah28722

The only ranged item to have crit, AP, and armor pen together.

Great for all melee, but don't be expecting to get this before hunters.

Commentaire de Corbon

Actually this bow should have the class restriction Hunter on it, but then it might not find its way into the raid, if there's no Hunter present at the kill.

Edit: It's safe to assume that any equipment with an item level of 164 drops from Kil'Jaeden.

Commentaire de Corbon

Actually this bow should have the class restriction Hunter on it, but then it might not find its way into the raid, if there's no Hunter present at the kill. Interestingly, it's listed as "disenchantable", but that might be an error.

It's also safe to assume that any equipment with an item level of 164 drops from Kil'Jaeden.

Edit: Well technically http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34196 has crit (in form of agi), atp and armor pen as well.

Commentaire de Volcan

Can anybody confirm these stats are final? Because if not, this is the biggest failure from Blizzard. Rogues and wars running around with all wep slots filled with legendaries would be stupid.

And yes i know im like the 100000th Hunter that complains but i just got to mention this

Commentaire de Thelion

Well this is a very nice bow , tho i'd like to see a legendary item that drops from bosses for Caster classes too ! Like i know about Atiesh , but it's from a quest... Can't they make legendaries for us too ?! Is it so hard ... Or we'll have to wait until the 2nd Expansion ?

Commentaire de Dragonemperor

That may be true you do not need ammo, but if you were to use this WITH ammo, your DPS would be threw the roof, If i were to ever get this i would still use arrows for bonus DPS.

And also.. you can unequip your arrows while grinding, pvp, etc.

Commentaire de Valzon

I wonder that since the buff says that it does not use arrows then would having arrows equipped actually increase your dps? Since the bow makes its own ammunition I don't believe it would use your equipped arrows. Therefor not getting the dps buff from the arrows.

Commentaire de TeaAddict

My first question was why, with the massive amount of Gamers playing hunters, hasn't a legendary bow dropped sooner.

However upon examination i guess it is lore. The other legendaries make sense, each one has lore behind it, a story explaining what makes it so special, and for a long time there were no real opportunities to Introduce a legendary bow.

It makes sense that The Blood elves would have such a bow as while many races have hunters, the blood elves are famous for having Ranger Lords.

On a side note, it would be nice to see more legendary and epic items effect the game in different ways. Much like the epic sword Ashbringer did. It would be a nice touch if while wearing this bow you got a more positive or simply different response from the Blood elves in Silvermoon

Commentaire de BurningStick

Equiping Arrows does not increase its DPS, basicly because Thori'dal generates it own arrows.
Means that arrows and the effect doesn't stack, even though it would be cool.

Commentaire de TheInfamousSpamr

"The energy of the Sunwell courses through Thori'dal." They also forgot to add "This will give you rank 1 in every arena bracket:)"

Commentaire de riddles201

Just a thought but, "Increases ranged attack speed by 15%. Does not stack with quiver or ammo pouch haste effects." Wouldn't that meen you will have a quiver with arrows? Yes, i know im stupid

Commentaire de dollar99

you don't need the plus damage from arrows.you can just assume that the magical conjured arrows ad a lot of damage

Commentaire de anoria

same goes for Apolyon, the Soul-render.

Great for all hunters, but don't be expecting to get this before melees.

Commentaire de foss

Assuming a hunter does 2.5k dps and Steadyshot is 60% of his total damage
then that hunter would gain (540-380)= 160 damage per steadyshot. If the average steadyshot/Autoshot hits for 1.3k on a fully debuffed target when the hunter is raidbuffed then he would get a 160/1300=12% damage increase on steady. if auto is 40% of total damage and steady 60% (of the hunters dps not hunter including pet)
then he would gain
12%x0,6 =7,2
so around 7.5% damage overall compared to Golden bow of quelthalas
resulting in 2.5k dps -> 2680 dps after switching bow.

Assuming the other leaked picture of this bow with 450 maxdamage is a fake and this is final stats. Other wise the increase would be Much Much less. Due to Autoshot actually loosing damage and the steadyshot damage increase being 90 less than what this shows.

Havent counted damage mitigation or crits though.
Feel free to disagree / correct.

Commentaire de archille

:@:@:@:@ i hope its final desing would say
class: hunter

plz its not fair !!!!(im a hunter) ftw

ohh btw imagine if u had this, your amo pounch, rapid fire and the haste pot """" INSANE SPEED"""""'
(and only from there 4)

Commentaire de esully

Foss...steady shot is not 60% of a hunter dps - if its 60% that hunter is clipping too many auto shots - which technically is pointless. WTB a macro ?

Commentaire de Nandometer

CONFIRMED drops from Kil'jaeden, just dropped on Hellscream.

Commentaire de Avor

huwnturz r leyk teh ezest klaz ehvar LAWL du tehey rly niid a layghendaree weopon? MAWR NAEWS AWFTAEHR 11

Commentaire de JamieK

I want this bow. hehehehe

Commentaire de DragonMBlood

Suprised no one has submited a screen shot so I googled it and submitted one, hopefully they allow it to be posted.

Commentaire de Mareric

There was some talk about the DPS of this bow getting nerfed before the gates opened to Kil'Jaeden. Only time tell if this is true or not. The rumored dps was around 135.

The reasoning behind this is that Steady Shot is not affected by your ammo's dps, only the base damage of the bow and your RAP. Meaning that your steady shots on this bow are through the roof, and it's possible they wanted to tone that down a bit.

Commentaire de ScarletRogue

I wonder if it's class specific to a hunter, like the warglaives are specific to Warriors and Rogues. I can just imagine how funny it would be to see a class besides the hunter using this bow :p

Commentaire de Volcan

Yes, it would be very nice if every Legendary had its own purpose. Like, imagine, we could get the cleansed Ashbringer in WotLK, and it would eventually be the only weapon that could damage Arthas on 1% of HP. I mean, the reactions like the one with Atiesh in Malchezaar fight is quite interesting, but it would be better if the legendaries actually affected the gameplay in some way too

Commentaire de Platemaster

From WoWWiki :

Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury is allegedly the name of a legendary bow. A European CM stated that a legendary item will be included in patch 2.4 that will "principally benefit hunters," and will be a straight drop like Blades of Azzinoth. The name Thori'dal was first seen in the 2.4 PTR patch notes.A spell "Requires No Ammo" was additionally seen on the 2.4 PTR describing that Thori'dal generates its own ammo. Thus it has been surmised that Thori'dal is the name of the legendary bow. Most other information is non-specific and unsubstantiated at this time.

Commentaire de Sabrotgus

no way is this a rouge item....hunter use thier bows a milllion times more than rogues so in no way would the arrow generation be useful to rogues other than to save them a few silver or gold on arrows...any rogue who rolls on this over a hunter should not simply move servers...they should be banned.

Commentaire de Banasou

The speed has changed since the bow got into wowhead's DB. As of 21th of May it has 2.7 speed with 355-524 which bumps its dps from 148.8 to 162.8 , Hunters everywhere Rejoice !
/tip hat to the lucky hunters , well deserved for killing Kil'jaeden.

Commentaire de avanger

It's a bit wrong! The bow's correct damage is 162.8dps over 2.70 speed in the live realm.
And here is the full weapon's table: <link>
Please revise the text in up.

Commentaire de HolgerDK

Hmmm - doesnt the 2.7 speed make it very very very good for BM hunters?

Commentaire de Stuke

you dumbass, it doesn't stack with the ammo pouch.

Commentaire de Onebigbug

I think the of lill87's post was making fun of all the people calling "Hunter weapon!" on an item that benefits other classes either just as well or more than hunters.

That being said, while any melee who takes this over a hunter should be shot, it is a GREAT stat stick ;)

Commentaire de Quaid

Allerias Bow??

Commentaire de Aragdar

Interesting that it doesn't require you to be a hunter to use it. And even though it would be a crime to give it to someone other than a hunter (Unless your raid's hunters already have one) it's not what we say that matters, it's the DKP.

Commentaire de edudum

without the timeless arrow it gets to 109.8 dps bow which is quite amazing! since u cant equip arrows on this item

Commentaire de Primez

All I can say.. is that any Hunter that gets this will rock the damage meters... Any BM Hunters that got their grubby little hands on this, will rape the damage meters... 2.7 bow spamming steady shot, with the increased steady shot damage, due to the high base damage, will definatly have other classes crying for a nerf.

Commentaire de elxDraco

What I don't understand about this bow is that Warriors and Rogues will also be able to use it, which is ridiculous, you don't want a Hunter using the warglaives either now do you? It's a shame if a Warrior or Rogue has this thing in his back pocket just to occasionally pull a mob, same goes for hunters with Thunderfury.

But It'll save you a ton on arrows, that's for sure.

Commentaire de nahiag

no, is shouldn't be Allerias Bow. First, for all who do not know about her she is, Alleria Windrunner older sister of three;
Sylvanas (whom you should recognise),
Vereesa (whom you might not know about, but will probobly be introduced in wotlk as she's the wife of Rhonin (recall robes from Archimonde?) he will be the leader of the Kirin Tor expedition to Northrend.

Sorry got a little off subject, Alleria is also known for Allerian Stronghold and her location is currently unknown. Alleria journeyed with the Alliance Expedition into the orc world of Draenor(Outland). You can also find her statue at the gates of Stormwind.

So why isn't it her bow? Well she obviously brought it with her to Draenor(outland) and would not have returned to the sunwell since then. Anyway, if anyone in the world of warcraft would have a legendary bow, it would have been the Rangers of Quel'Thalas.

Commentaire de Caldonas

Yes Alleria moved to Draenor which broke apart and became the Outlands. No word has been heard from her since then.

Illidan escaped to the Outlands where, after beating Magtheridon for rulership, he encountered Kil'jaeden.

We don't know whether Alleria is still alive in MIA state, or maybe she met a cruel fate at the hands of one of Kil'jaeden's servants, and the bow somehow ended up in the hands of the big Eredar.

So Alleria could be a possibility.

Commentaire de joelsfallon

Blizzard will Indeffinatly Slap on a hunter sticker to this.

Commentaire de aMulej

if u use a 3:2 shot rotation u get around 60% on steady shot

Commentaire de Spleener

It's mostly so that it doesn't go to waste if it drops when no hunters who don't already have it are in the raid, which, depending on your drop rate and how many hunters you usually roll with, is not completely out of the realm of possibility.

If you run with 3 warriors and 3 rogues (a high number in both cases), it takes 7 drops of a glaive for ones to start getting sharded. If you run with 3 hunters and Thori'dal is hunter-restricted, it takes 4.

No Kil'jaeden-killing guild in their right mind will give this to a non-hunter over a hunter anyway.

Commentaire de Ayvalen

The screen shot submitted above is incorrect. The bow shown is the Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas

Commentaire de Boshnak

A video of it in action;
http://www.vimeo.com/881840

Commentaire de thomasbarnes

Can i ask why they never make any good caster legendarys and if they ever do its always at the end just before a major patch like 60 to 70? it really sucks being a caster some times

Commentaire de Volcan

Yes that is the model of Golden Bow of Quel thalas with a texture which has colours simillar to Thori'dal, which probably caused the confusement.
The true model was posted earlier as a comment by "avanger"

Commentaire de Neptune0100

Holy *!@#, grats Hunters, that bow made my jaw drop, and I'm a rogue lol

and yes it should be Hunter only, dunno why they didn't do that.

Commentaire de SunkenColony

Finally, hunters get a legendary, and it's quite the legendary weapon indeed, the lore hasn't been released, so I'm just going to swoon over it's stats.

It's a 2.7 speed bow, which is an amazing speed for BM hunters using a 1:1 shot rotation, with some room to add a bit of haste and of course, improved Aspect of the Hawk. The additional stats are AMAZING, the agility, attack power, crit rating and armor ignore are incredible.

The biggest thing that makes this bow revolutionary is the fact it doesn't use ammo. Alot of people (obviously not theory-crafters), have asserted that the loss of 53dps ammo makes it a little less incredible. They are completely wrong. Steady shot damage is unaffected by ammunition, thereby not gaining the 53 dps boost auto-shot gained. While it was speculated Blizzard might change the formula to include ammunition to the damage somehow, this bow clearly predates that possible change. This bow will make steadyshot the grand majority of a hunter's DPS, and with bonuses from the T6 4-set bonus, where steadyshot damage is increased by 10%, this bow is going to make a huge difference. This bow is clearly above the rest, if you were to take any other bow and add 53 dps and remove the ammo requirement, it would have an incredible DPS boost already, but this bow does it with clearly superior stats. It basically adds 53 dps to steady shot damage on an incredibly buff bow. I expect to see hunter's DPS above Warlocks and Rogues regularly with this bow.

That this bow frees up a bag slot is the absolute smallest of it's advantages. I cannot say enough good things about this bow. It is simply incredible.
Thank you Blizzard. <3

Commentaire de hazum

as funny as the comment is for those of us who remember the thottbot comment days,

yes, yes we did

Commentaire de Kadamon

This makes for a perfect every class weapon because of the armor ignorance. I'd give it to a Hunter first...and then probably a rogue, then off to the warrior and such.

I wonder if there's ever going to be any other legendary ranged weapons that people will get to keep?

Commentaire de Heenk

That is false. A bow with that dps + ammo would deal less dps than Thor'Idal, due to ammo dps not contributing to steady shot.

Commentaire de snooks

penultimate

That word means second to last (as in worse), not the final or end or best.

Commentaire de Boshnak

Here is a video of the bow in action, so you can see how it looks. Not sure why you don`t like it...
http://www.vimeo.com/881840

Commentaire de burningblaze

lol hunters are opd in DPS as it is already why would we want to give you more DPS? all they do is stand there and shoot nothing else in boss fights so easy you can go AFK and no one notice unless you had to move out the way of sumthn lol

hunter = nub easy mode for PvE play a tank or non AoE healer

Commentaire de Dahur

i see 5.5k steady crits! gief :(

Commentaire de Meano

http://s2.gladiatus.us/game/c.php?uid=53909

Commentaire de EXTREMER

it is good Bow!

Commentaire de Kataya

Blizzard, why do you love hunters so much?

Commentaire de datwunkid

The one, the only, the true
HUNTER WEPON!!!!!

Commentaire de loragheta

this is the best bow in game for hunters. absolutly no one else should ever get it unless every other hunter in the guild has it. this will last till 80 and perhaps even further then that because of its raw dps and its ability for not needing arrows/quiver.

Commentaire de Greyskin

I think it is sad that they started to put legendary weapons in the game as regular drops, back in the day with Thunderfury and what not. You knew when you saw a warrior with thunderfury that an extraordinary effort had been put in by the entire guild in order to equip the tank with that weapon. (or as it was the case on my server equip a hunter with thunderfury :| )

EDIT: should be more clear

Commentaire de Alum

Anyone have an idea of what the drop rate would most likely be?
And I don't see why you hate the fact that hunter's get such an awesome ranged weapon, I mean Hunter's have auto-shot and have heaps of ranged attack spells for their weps, so why should a warrior or rogue need so much damage on ranged?
They are a melee class, they have no ranged weapon spells, they have melee spells, besides with this speed you'll only use one arrow per mob before it gets to you, so any half decent bow would work well, however if all classes had auto-shot, yeah, would be pretty nice I guess, or at least ranged weapon spells, but you have your speed and armor for the reason of always been in close.
If however you are low on health and someone is tanking, then great weapon for all classes, so for pulling, pointless for non-hunter's, for grouped with tanks, great, the tank is pet, the one with the bow is the hunter.
And I do believe I went against what I said and repeated myself a lot, but, meh, I do it a lot :)

Anyway, back to my question, any idea of a rough drop rate?

Commentaire de LuckySleven

strongest dps bow in the game =D

Commentaire de Alum

I really don't see why my last post was given a negative rating, or why it was given a rating anyway, but whatever, my question still stands, anyone have an idea of what the drop rate may be?

Commentaire de Kataya

Some idiot has multiple accounts and rated these down hard by the looks of things.

Commentaire de Dranoel

Whereas there's been no official statement on the lore, you can do the research yourself, to some extent. Partial speculation, but it makes a lot of sense, and gave me an insight into what to expect the bow to be before it was named and released. Sunstrider's Longbow, once having belonged to Dath'Remar Sunstrider, handed down to Sylvannas Windrunner when she was the Ranger-General, last to defend The Sunwell. Theoretical, but along with

This ancient elven artifact is a flaming composite longbow. The arrows it shoots are automatically imbued as though they were flaming ammunition.

It makes sense to consider the Legendary Bow the very same, left in the ruins of the Sunwell after Sylvannas defeat and fall to the Lich King.

How it reached Kil'jaeden is another matter, either Arthas left it there or one of the now-inhabiting Demons brought it to him. One could consider after he established his foothold in Azeroth, he would work to enslave Sylvannas and her Forsaken again, taunting her with the heirloom as a gift of fealty and power.

It at least sounds more right and legendary than the level 1 trash item model she has in Undercity, or saying a powerful relic that had caused Arthas so much trouble in her hands was just left by her corpse for her banshee to recollect.

Commentaire de loragheta

i hate when people do that they must really love being %^&gots >.> valid comments being downrated multiple times ftl

Commentaire de carstone

No the posts just generally sucked. keep OT and chitchat off Wowhead

Commentaire de Miyari

Hi, I would appreciate it if users would please stop spamming this page with useless and non-constructive comments. It does no good to make comments accusing people of downrating comments with alts (it doesn't happen as much as you think), what you're probably seeing is an overactive moderation community on what is a considerably "hot" item. If you're viewing this page and are confused as to why your comment may have been downrated, you might want to review the Commenting FAQ.

But here, I'll combine all of the thoughts into one post so I can save you guys the downrating drama:

Yes it's a hunter weapon, no it doesn't use ammo, yes it's very powerful, yes you'll probably replace it at some point in Wrath of the Lich King, yes it's the highest dps bow in the game, yes it probably hits pretty very hard, qq your can't use it (although, note, it has no Hunter-only specification), no Blizzard isn't biased to hunters (there have been quite a few legendaries in the game prior that can't be used by hunters), I'm sorry you don't think Kil'jaeden is a bad enough dude lore-wise to drop a legendary, and it probably doesn't have a ridiculously high drop rate (maybe comparable to Warglaives).

Okay?

Commentaire de Guynumber

rofl imagine an aimed shot with this thing....it would be INSANE DAMAGE.

it increases damage by like 720 right, so you get like 1200 BASE aimed shot, and not including RAP and crit. wow, just wow. as a mage, i wish we had a better lengendary then atiesh

Commentaire de Gardok

Do remember that the actual DPS isn't "that" crazy.

This bow uses no arrows, thus there will be no additional DPS from the arrows itself. Typical arrow DPS being somewhere between 37-55 so you can reduce that from the bow DPS.

Commentaire de Cureless

As i calculated dps of this bow would be 186.9 with +15 % speed , u cant add arrow dps to this because it generates its own arrows and u dont need to use pouch/quiver anymore.

This is very amazing wepon.

Commentaire de eklektoulis

i think that sunflare and the golden staff of the sin'dorei would be nice for ele shammys and te staff can be more precious for healers and mybe can any1 post something about drop rate plz????

Commentaire de blackbow

BM, MM, Survival, honestly who the F cares what spec hunters this is for. I'm pretty sure you won't pass on this because you thought to yourself, "Well I like survival spec and this is probably best for bm, so I'll just pass."

Edit:

This should have a hunter-only class requirement. Because there will always be that chance of accidentally clicking the wrong person to give it to.. or that one person who thinks it's actually ok to give it to a warrior/rogue because they won a roll...and that... my friend, would just be tragic.

If anyone cares to know I have a longtime 70 warrior, paladin, and hunter

Commentaire de vecdran

Many years have I waited for this day.

Warrior weapon.

(Downrank gogogogogogo.)

Commentaire de blackbow

in all seriousness it's children like you that makes me want to quit WoW.

Commentaire de W1re

Honestly it's your bad grammar that make me realize kids play this game.

Commentaire de Guynumber

yeah sorry...that was my first wowhead comment.

Commentaire de vecdran

in all seriousness it's hunters for the last three years that have jacked tons of weapons from me (a warrior) claiming it was a hunter weapon that made me want to quit wow.

Forgive me this one small little bit of irony.

Commentaire de Lovi

The first is dropped to Stefang, member of the Last Resort (EU-Boulderfist) guild.

Commentaire de Ventura

Why is Lovi being buried? He's right.

Commentaire de kauski

crossbow of relentless strikes 93 dps + timeless arrow 53 dps = 146 dps

so its 16,8 dps difference

crossbow of relentless strikes got

+2 crit rating
+14 hit rating
-2 ap
-112 ignore armor
-17 agi
-1 bag slot
-gold that goes for arrows
-16,8 dps

Commentaire de cathrinn

has this bow dropped yet?

Commentaire de rougenoob

First drop in game on Boulderfist and won by the hunter Stefang in Last Resort

Commentaire de Affje

Second legendary (lets count the Glaives as one Legendary) that has no Quest you have to do, to obtain the Item.

Legendaries in WoW:

Pre-BC Legendaries (Quest-Item)

BC Legendaries (Drop from Bosses)

Commentaire de JesusWasAMage

Berserker is right, 162.8 (Thori'dal's DPS) - 53 (Timeless Arrow DPS) = 109.8 DPS

Commentaire de endlesscurse

Really amazing for hunters, but why no spellcaster weapons to this level....sigh

Commentaire de Gorund

You don't need to complete any quest to get Sulfuras...
To wield it you "just" need to drop Eye of Sulfuras from Ragnaros and use it on Sulfuron Hammer once you crafted it.

Commentaire de Athenian

For people who have not done the math or look threw all of these comments....

The 2nd best bow in the game is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34196 soon to be the Brutal Gladiators Longbow.

The Legendary Bow has 162.8 DPS
The Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas has 97.3 DPS
The Timeless Arrows(best arrows) have 53 DPS.

Now if you have the Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas and the Timeless Arrows DPS you get 150.3 DPS which is only 12.5 DPS lower than the Legendary Bow.

Because the Legendary Bow makes its own arrows they(blizzard) have to up the DMG by ALOT, and its DPS by ALOT to suffice to not useing arrows.

EDIT: And because it is 2.7 speed its perfect for BM hunters :)

Commentaire de Anuaros

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned is the best ranged weapon for a Rogue yet...

http://shadowpanther.net/

In both PvE and PvP.

Commentaire de Clinch

World first drop went to Stefang of Last Resort, EU-Boulderfist.

Congrats!

Commentaire de b0n3Z

Second owner of this bow is Ahoq(Nihilum guild).Dropped on 02.06.08.
http://nihilum.mousesports.com/en/news/727,ahoq_goes_legendary/

Commentaire de Heenk

Except that ammo only adds to autoshot dps, and the Crossbow of Relentless strikes comes out ahead of the Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas due to its faster speed. Your comment is worthless.

Commentaire de burningblaze

has dropped only person in the world has it they are on a EU server

http://wowjutsu.com/eu/boulderfist/Last%20Resort/sunwellplateau

dropped on there 1st kill of kil

stefang is the only hunter atm dropped 5/29/08 or least 1st time seen in game for WoWjutsu

GRARTZ to the ORC hunter

FOR THE HORDE

Commentaire de b0n3Z

http://www.wowprogress.com/item/34334_Thori%27dal%2C+the+Stars%27+Fury
there it is...TWO GUILDS, not one

Commentaire de Naruaeon

Though im Ally Draenei Hunter..Im rooting for Ahoq on this one.
My idol..I constantly check up on his gear and specc out of curosity. Gratz to him! :D
this bow is absolutely insane for BM hunters..I cant even imagine how strong a hunt with this is gonna be.
I really want to see Ahoq AND stefang in action with it.
Good luck and gratz to them both!

Commentaire de Athenian

Im pretty sure if you know anything about hunters that 2.7speed is perfect, and if you have a 2.8 speed bow you will need 55 haste rating for Crossbow of Relentless Strikes to be any use

Commentaire de Anuaros

I'm sorry Hunters but honestly, you go posting on Rogue daggers that this would be an "awesome dual-wield for a hunter" and now you can't handle it when it's done to your weapons?

Grow up.

Commentaire de Sentan

Except to learn to craft it requires a quest.
Or you could have bought it for a lot of gold.

Commentaire de Donettes

That's not true since steady shot ignores ammunition dps. For white damage the dps it's 109 but for steady shot and other skills that don't take into consideration DPS of ammu the bow's dps it's 162.

Commentaire de quader46

world first drop http://nihilum.mousesports.com/en/news/727,ahoq_goes_legendary/

taken from http://nihilum.mousesports.com/en/news/

Commentaire de Krakendorph

World second drop. 1st one went to Stefang of Last Resort.

Commentaire de avanger

the first drop is http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=8125.0
Ahoq has only the second Thori'Dal.

Edit: oh, I have a few minutes delay :)

Commentaire de Nicoman

Finally some BM hunter love.
I was getting sick of the 3.00 weapons. Crossbow of Relentless Strikes
was a nice upgrade from 3.00 but this, this is godly.
Well here are the advantages over you average Marksmanship bow.

1. 2.70 speed. with Imp Aspect of the Hawk up (which shouldn't be hard because of the speed) and Serpent's Swiftness, you are already nearly at 2.00 speed, the optimal speed for a 1:1 Steady Shot rotation. All you need is one haste gear and presto 2.00 speed.

2. Does not use ammo. Bag space saved, nuf said.

3. Because it doesn't use ammo, Blizz added lot's of DPS to make up for the -51 DPS. All of that juicy DPS applies to your SS damage, unlike the ammo bonus. This is heavenly for maximum SS DPS

4. And last but not least, this bow offers a straight up DPS boost from any other bow, even subtracting for the loss of ammo.

All in all thank you Blizzard!

Commentaire de Zaghar

Every gold farmers dream. Extra bag slots for crap loot

Commentaire de Pondskipper

Steady Shot is not affected by Ammo DPS, therefore you can treat it as 160ish DPS, for Steady Shot and 109ish for Auto Shot. THAT more than anything is what makes this bow complete leet sauce.

Commentaire de Batleth

Yes, this is one hell of a bow. My only hope is that its "drawback" animation, resembles (if not outright copies) that of Hank's magical bow on the old animated Dungeons and Dragons. That would be awesome.

:-)

Commentaire de Manazra

Second one dropped for Elitist Jerks on Mal'Ganis

Commentaire de Syrandorthepally

No ammo can seriously make classes with bow skills massively op. warriors and rogues got the warglaives and not this.For those of us without rouges and warriors as 70s... we are screwed.

Commentaire de phete

Actually, Nihilum got theirs before Elitist Jerks:
http://wowprogress.com/item/34334_Thori'dal%2C+the+Stars'+Fury

Commentaire de imHonest

This bow was lootet for the first time by Stefang, member of the guild SK-Gaming.

Commentaire de Kadatia

did someone noticed it somewhat resemble the bow from the archer in the old D&D cartoons ^^

Commentaire de loragheta

actualy its the third SHoR is 1# glaives #2 and this makes #3

Commentaire de 2OfDiamonds

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dungeons_and_Dragons.jpg

no i dont, sorry.

Commentaire de goltrazin

IMO this bow is extremely good for BM hunters, but also very very over powering.

Commentaire de BurningStick

No it isn't over-powered Goltrazin, did you even read the other posters?
1. It drops from the hardest boss / last boss in game, so makes very good sense that it is the strongest ranged weapon.
2. It got a much higher dps than other weapons because it doesn't use arrows.

Result: Its very good(even better with Steady Shot as posted many times above).

Commentaire de ahmetzizou

As a pvp rogue this is a great addition to my gear. The minus armor boosts my dmg versus casters significantly. Plus the incredible raw attack power you get from it

Commentaire de snusmacka

this is absolutly a rogue item, this bow with warglaives is da %^&*! (it's not a hunter bow ) -_-

Commentaire de danr83

There is no one on us retail realms with this bow, there is one person with this bow on the European realms.

Commentaire de prattle128

i lol'd.. grats hunters on finally having an actual legendary weapon designed for you guys

Commentaire de Deathsoniam

some orc hunter from elitest jerks got it

Commentaire de solo1994

lol why all the last spots minus?xD

Commentaire de Arlome

That's an @55hat comment if I've ever heard one.

Commentaire de Arlome

That's an @55hat comment if I've ever heard one.

Commentaire de fezo

u are definetly a wowhead owner , or blizz employee or something, that was an AMAZING speech :P

and BTW , y is ur comment in pink? while all others r in green and white, u must be a wowhead owner? r u? :D

Commentaire de brotos

i rated you down. simply for the fact everythign you said has already been said. you complain about people doing the exact same thing you just did. clog up wowhead with !@#$ that has been said 100x's and qq all over my computer screen.

Commentaire de patso

Dropped for a guidlie some days ago ( i think that was before 2.4.2 patch), she's a priest so not even a chance to equip that
here is the screenshot for those that are not believe that
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/671889/img/Anonymous/WoWScrnShot-051108-203308.jpg

Commentaire de patso

Commentaire de thomasbarnes

Ok i need to know why the hell Blizzard doesnt make Legendary items for casters! that staff they made was to close to lvl 70 to even count!

Commentaire de Jackbots

get a grip...

Commentaire de Nevin540

Video of it dropping =http://http://youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0]

Commentaire de stager

if you can disenchant it,wonder what it would have.. im betting just a epic(if they have em,if not then rare,lol)shard...would be cool to have a legendary ____ shard...hmm.....maybe a name could be
"Shard of Stager...........................of Ravencrest" :P

Commentaire de stager

WOW why do people think rick roll is funny *cry*

Commentaire de davidx17

a rogue needed it but i still got it ^^
he got a 82 and i got a 84 0_o i was scared

Commentaire de alistiar

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Commentaire de Guki

bitch please... top hat wearing tyrannosaurus rex' have not been cool since they all died. milions of years ago

Commentaire de smacks

i'm not sure if i'm missing something. wouldn't the bow be better served with a spec similar to this guys?
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kargath&n=Nevr
he's pulling almost 200 more DPS without the legendary.

Commentaire de chan2

i think when WotLK comes out alot of people will farm this? :D

Commentaire de Naruaeon

I doubt it
1) theres gonna be much better range weapons
2) even if you mean once people are 74-75, then nah theyre probably going to want to level to 80 and start the new content to GET the better range weapons
So really..once WoTLK comes out, this things going to for novelty and have no real place in a hunters dps, Basically what im saying is your not going to see a hunter shooting Arthas with this.
And if you do ill be disappointed in blizz Lol

And i mean novelty weapon as in the way say, The hungering cold is used. Just walk around with it and look like a badass lol

Commentaire de ramseyzach6614

WOW,All i can say I CAN'T WAIT FOR 2.4 PATCH DO COME OUT u would be unstopable in pvp.

From.Ramseyzach6614:)

Commentaire de Thepigeon

/drooooool

Commentaire de mancini

finally indeed a good lev 70 epic with a less revolting (3.0) speed
if we recall the lev 60 epics had 1.8 (pvp bows) , 2.0 (nax gun) and were the rage before steady shot was added with bc , but making all new epics 3.0 from below 2.0 is just ridiculous even with the onset of haste

Commentaire de Frenchy2804

Myari is simply doing what you would like to see

Myari condensed all the random coments and QQ into one post, retards like you don't understand that, and that's why you go off and get your post downrated

High five!

Commentaire de Frenchy2804

You might last longer, or be able to kill people faster, maybe carry more Health pots in your extra bag, but I see no invincibility effect on it

Commentaire de TMNTMan84

Just asking... Can you use that bow outside of the Sunwell Instance??

Commentaire de tyler2k

Yes, just like the warglaives, you can use Throi'dal outside of SWP

Commentaire de Leshy

Yes, this is a regular item that can be used anywhere, unlike the legendary weapons in the Kael'thas fight.

Commentaire de Devinicus

Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury is now Unique as intended.

Oh no, guys! Looks like I can't carry my three spare Thori'dals around! Now what will I do?!

Commentaire de alexx1994

isn't this how brutal bow is going to look like?

Commentaire de starks

I have always felt one of the penalties of being a hunter was that you were basically down a bag slot and had to buy ammo. Which helped balance out the classes. Other classes have to eat and drink more and hunters have to run to the shopkeeper more. Even though most players would never see this item themselves if it has to drop from Kiljaeden, it seems very unfair compared to what is currently available.

Commentaire de Groundlord

Warriors and Rogues:
If you roll "Need" on this when there are Hunters in the party (unless, for some strange reason, ALL of them already have it) that are rolling for it, expect to die a LOT.

I don't know about anyone else, but I would track down some nutcase who rolled for this and make sure he regreted it (training huge crowds of mobs into you while you're gathering something, things like that). You might call it ganking, but to me, rolling on something that is obviously made for another class (i.e., a Warrior rolling on it "so he can pull more easily") is just as bad.

Commentaire de kelome

gief 3.00 speed. best for 3:2, to get 2.07 speed.

pity its 2.7 now, but gz to all you 1:1ers

Commentaire de Natherix

Since one of the drops is Coif of Alleria: www.wowhead.com/?item=34333

It would suggest that there was some sort of meeting/confrontation with Alleria Windrunner and Kil'Jaeden/Sunwell Plateau.

And so the bow could be/was Alleria's bow.

Also Coif Of Alleria is a hunter item ^^ (or enhancement shaman)

Commentaire de henkoz

Arís on Sylvanas EU has also got the bow, if any cares ^^

Commentaire de rikimarutenchu

Maybe Kael'thas should have dropped one then, Kil'jaeden is an Eredar. Eredar/Draenei/Broken aren't renowned for their archers. Then again, neither was Kael. The only active person from lore right now nown to be a phenominal archer is Maiev Shadowsong, and you don't fight her. I would have expected a legendary bow from the WotLK expansion from the hoards of risen elves. Maybe Sylvannas's sister. (Even though it's hinted that you killed her yourself in one of the quests in the Ghostlands.)

Commentaire de iraqselite

OMG TANK WEAPON

Commentaire de Holyarrow

Btw this bow is actually called Holyarrow in Bloodelf language.

Me and 2 friends once had a 3v3 team by this name. My bloodelf friend simply said Holyarrow while having his own language turned on and what came out was Thori'dal. I was quite impressed when i found this bow with my name on it xD

Commentaire de Kardall

Why is it that Legendary Items really aren't that hard to get anymore ...

There are already replies that people on live realms have this bow. What ever happened to the Thunderfury, huge raid boss item amassing that had to happen? I mean, where do you distinguish a person or group that has put a lot of effort into the game, and those that are "just hanging around"...

Nice bow, but I do wish that they would make it at least CHALLENGING to get... like you have a quest or some big long drawn out material collection deal. Most people will flame, but I know there are people who feel that Epics are no longer epics, and Legendary items are soon to be no longer "Legendary".

They need to make it so that the drop rate is closer to that of the Barons Mount.

Commentaire de 2OfDiamonds

so there will be servers that will never have even ONE drop?

yeah thats fun..

Commentaire de dowso

/agree 100%...I personally didn't get to raid in vanilla WoW, but I have seen most of the content as a 70 and I know how much work the old legendaries required. Its complete crap that you can get these types of weapons now just out of luck. Quite honestly, it has reduced the value of the legendary weapon--if I were to see a rogue walking around with dual glaives I would feel no different than if they were just in t6 gear, after all they are both only drops now. No work, no effort, no motivation...the World of Warcraft has been Americanized.

They need to make it so that the drop rate is closer to that of the Barons Mount

No. Legendaries shouldn't drop at all.

Commentaire de Wakako

You forget that you had the legendary AQ bug mount that required a quest as well, but yes I prefer the Burning Crusades way of giving out legendarys.

Commentaire de Eluneril

Odd O.o
When I was looking for a name for my new Rak'shiri, I said Rak'shiri to a gnome in Darnassian (Same as what Holyarrow did) and you'll never guess what he saw....Yes, that's right, Thoridal. :)

Edit: I fail to see how Holyarrow's comment, which is essentially the same, got rated so high when mine has been downrated... Please don't downrate PERFECTLY valid comments.

Commentaire de Rasztra

Rogue weapon, imo.

Commentaire de Rexz

Before the sunwell was officially released, many people thought that the Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas was the legendary bow due to false leak picture like this one http://www.worldofraids.com/2008/ptr/24/sp/kiljaeden/thoridal.jpg.

The picture of the bow belong to Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas but with the stat of Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury, which was just plain false information.

The correct graphic for this bow look like this. http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/thumb/7/70/Thoridal.png/300px-Thoridal.png

Commentaire de Nevin540

I would maybe guess he/she takes it off so he doesn't get spammed in a capital city.

Commentaire de Juggernot

Why would warriors and rogues roll need on this anyway? it's got HUNTER all over it, so if you roll need on this with hunters in the group, there need to be new nicknames such as "WARRIORTARD" AND "ROGUETARD" etc.

You have been warned!

Commentaire de Razagarin

It's a lot like the Hunters that would roll for Gorehowl because 'they needed it more' than a 2h DPS Warrior, a Retribution Paladin, or an Enhancement Shaman.

Sure, this item is different, better for hunters than those weapons are for Warrior/Paladin/Shaman, but at the time when Karazhan was 'the' instance being raided, it was on the same scale as a Warrior/Rogue rolling on that bow.

Commentaire de Slayer479

im glad to see how important hunters/Rangers are in the lorefor this patch ...but soon Wrath wrath will come then it will all be focused on Death Knights

Commentaire de Groundlord

I do agree that Hunter's shouldn't get priority over melee classes on melee weapons.
However, if the weapon has stats that would be more useful to a Hunter than a melee class, then the Hunter at least deserves a chance to get it.
I'm not saying Hunters need melee weapons more than melee classes do, just that Hunters could use decent melee weapons in addition to their ranged weapons (for stat bonuses at least).

Commentaire de demise189

too bad its on the hardest boss to kill in the game, and probably will still be the hardest boss to kill in the game clear to WotLK.

But i want to know how blizzard plans on making the hunters that get it replace it with a level 80 bow later, because most hunters wont give up that extra bag slot where their ammo pouch currently sits, not to mention legendary items just make you look kool. :)

Commentaire de Tankadin

this bow is full of win and uberawesomesauce, ammo-free and DPS that's so high it should be illegal sweetness

Commentaire de Zaras

@ groundlord: As most of us know, it is no longer possible to drop a train on someone. Mobs reset once they lose aggro and will not simply attack another person once you drop aggro. So good luck taking revenge on your own faction...

Commentaire de Strut

you would think that it wouldnt have a good drop rate but it actually has a real good drop rate for a ledgendary.

Commentaire de brenthebli

I like this bow along with http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34196 (golden bow of Quel'Thalas) and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33474 (Ancient Amani bow, which i currently use), for thier armor penitration ability. It give hnters a slight edge when shooting at high armor classes, and even more of one when hitting the low armored classes. This one is also good because of http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=46699 and http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=44972.

Commentaire de Twokill

I want that bow so bad on my hunter.... Looks cool to.

Commentaire de notos

it really doesnt matter i think any guild raiding SWP uses some kind of DPK system

and Any Class that can benefit from the stats should have a chance to get it

Commentaire de nepotu93

1.This is a wonderful bow...nobody deservs it...

2. I don't tink that even 50 people could kill that boss.

3. + if i am wrong the aliance can't get it so....is not fare.

Commentaire de Oathmaker

Congrats to Hunchu of <Gentlemens Club> (Korgath US) on to my knowledge the second worldwide drop of Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury

(massive trade spam afterward...)

Commentaire de knucker

Currently, 8 of them have dropped worldwide. That have been recorded by: WoWjutsu

Commentaire de WoWFan123

I see how it is...we first argue over which class should have it, then once we all agree on which class get the bow, we all fight over which spec it is best suited for...stupid imo.

Commentaire de Heenk

http://www.wowprogress.com/item/34334_Thori%27dal%2C+the+Stars%27+Fury

He's world 16th.

Commentaire de inusnoozer

word lol its not just for bm hunter tho it for like all 3 :P
i saw this weapon and my jaw dropped it hurt too
this weapon is awesome you will no longer need a quiver or ammo pouch so you get an extra bag slot
its gona be pretty hard to get unless you guild has cleared it out before then it should be a cake walk
this bow is the sickest weapon they have made for hunters other classes could use it too but its more suited for a hunter then any other

Commentaire de goblinego

So this is best bow what you can get? (only feeling).

Commentaire de Madithen

Funnily enough, saying "multifail" in Thalassian will show up as "Thori'dal" to any non-blood elf.

Blizzard clearly doesn't like hunters! :P

Commentaire de OremLK

This isn't a bow, it's a starship. Just look at it.

You could kill TIE Fighters in this thing.

Commentaire de Oddity

Sniperhunter wrote:
1. Your speed calculation is off:
base speed / (quiver speed * Serpent's Swiftness * sum of all haste)
2.7 / (1.15 * 1.20 *) = 2.7 / 1.38 = 1.96

This is kinda off as well, seeing as how it doesn't use a quiver. However, the formula itself is fine if you just substitute "quiver speed" for "Imp Aspect of the Hawk" (both having a +15% speed bonus).

Commentaire de Roofhack

Can confirm that Holyarrow does turn out as Thori'dal in game. Nice find!

Commentaire de Khaim

This bow is for warriors...not! :D
(Borat)

Commentaire de Manatapthis

I doubt they will put a class restriction on it as it is useful for many classes. Thunderfury didn't have any restrictions and it was pointless for anyone but a warrior really (considering the threat generated by it, threat + rogue = bad).

This is a good ranged weapon for a few classes, but you would have many, MANY people in your guild angry at you if you took it before a hunter.

Commentaire de 504a

Btw, while wearing this bow can you equip quiver too?

Commentaire de Slash

Thunderfury DID have restrictions. Warrior, Paladin, Hunter, Rogue if I remember correctly.

Commentaire de kevinno

A rogue or warrior using this would be shot to death by thier guildmates.
You get the glaives, we will take this, thank you.
End of story.

Commentaire de Saoul

Sorry, but you are denied Cake.

Thunderfury had no restrictions (Level aside) and was able to be obtained and used by anyone that could pick up a sword.

Commentaire de Saoul

There will be no cake for you.

Look at the AQ opening quest line. There's a Legendary mount Quest Reward.

Black Qiraji Resonating Crystal (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21176)

Commentaire de lolcakes4life

the weapon itself does not have a class restriction(http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19019) but the bindings used to make it did.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=18563

Commentaire de raistllin

warglaives and thori'dal. wheres the caster love? =)

Commentaire de Rogabr

this bow is retarded and shows nothing but blizzards love for hunters, 500 damage on a BOW? are you stupid? thats a torch of the damned at 40 yards, how is that fair? pvp this thing is beyond stupid, 5k aimed shot crits on a max resilience sham rage activated enhancement shaman with a shield on (13k armor+), clearly thats fair, &*!@ you blizzard.

Commentaire de Keishidu

You forgot the 15% speed increase that the bow gives to its self since its not added into the base items speed before hand

Commentaire de dennoid

Why don't you guys get that this bow sucks. It has slightly higher dps than the other bows except for the fact that you don't get anything out of a quiver (which gives a speed bonus) and you lose over 50 dps from not having any arrows. 50 dps and a speed increase is worth spending a little bit of money.

Commentaire de raiderhorns

You are not smart, LRN2HUNTARD.

Commentaire de Hont

"Equip: Increases ranged attack speed by 15%. Does not stack with quiver or ammo pouch haste effects."

And i thought it's pretty obvious that this replaces a quiver... I guess not. Also if you would actually read some comments you'd realize why this bow is good.

Commentaire de Gardok

Old, known changes, included steady shot being separated from autoshot. That means that you can start shooting a new steady shot at any time, no matter if your autoshot is still firing. Of course this works also vice versa so a new autoshot can start at any time.

This would have leaded in to a fact that only SLOW ranged weapons were viable weapons for (proper) hunters.

But I found this today from latest WotLK patch notes:

Steady Shot now uses ammo. In result, its bonus damage has been slightly reduced. Players can notice a damage increase based upon what ammo they use.

Talk about a major nerf to Thori'dal!

Well anyways, that change makes faster ranged weapons again viable, which is a really good thing.

Commentaire de Maluna

It has it's own speed increase stat to compensate for the lost quiver.
The 50 DPS lost from your epic arrows is easily made up for by the enormous damage it carries. While the DPS of a / combo is higher, the extra steady shot damage from Thori'dal eclipses that.

And it's legendary. For the epeen.

Commentaire de Fallerup

I dont know why this was Purged before so I'll say it again: You say that any melee that takes this over a hunter should be shot right? That is correct, along with the raid leader that allows it to happen. But I guess people already know this but just incase :)

Commentaire de Algeo

dennoid, ever heard of a spell called Steady Shot?

Commentaire de Sandos

I'm pretty sure they did this to prevent Thori'dal to be one of the best bows in level 80 raids. The chance that they will create a bow like this one for level 80 is minimal. So without this SS buff, a bow with, lets say, 150 DPS with a 2.7 speed would have 405 average damage while Thori'dal sits at 439.5, and thus still (very likely) higher SS hits and a good chance at comparable DPS as the level 80 bow. However, with this 'nerf' a level 80 raid bow with 150 DPS and with ammo that adds, lets say, 70 DPS would push out a lot more DPS, as you'd expect from an item that is found 10 levels later (and probably in pretty high end content).

Imagine someone tanking t5/6 content with Thunderfury - it doesn't make sense. All Blizzard is doing is 'nerfing' one item and buffing loads of other items when that one item reaches the end of viable use in raids.

Note: Ofcourse I don't know anything about weapon DPS or ammo DPS in WotLK - it's what I kind of expect. Probably 150 dps is still overrated, but who knows.

Commentaire de Rfairney

You DO get the speed increase
and the damage the bow does is higher than even the next best bow in the game using the best ammo in the game.

Try theorycraft sometime

Commentaire de Ruffy

The bow from Zul'aman is better

Commentaire de Drok

Can the post above, plus this one, be deleted. I don't see a reason to make a remark, clearly for the sake of provocating people to respond. Thats whats great about wowhead, constructive input.

Commentaire de renyetoko

The bow itself gives a speed bonus. 15% not sure if you are reading that correctly. As stated before it doesn't need arrows so you dont get a bonus from ammunition, but then again the bow has high DPS as it is and therefore doesn't need the added damage from ammunition. This bow doesn't suck at all. Id be extremely happy getting it. One more bag spot and not having to constantly buy ammo? Id throw out that purple junk any day for the orange :D

Commentaire de Snaga

The high DPS on this weapon is worth more than having a lower DPS bow and arrow dps added to it.
This is because increased DPS on the weapon means increased average weapon damage, which in turn is factored into special shots.
You also get an additional backslot worth of inventory space, and your arrow consumption is removed. A truely legendary item, if used by a hunter.

Commentaire de enclavezero

Please tell me the people that are complaining aren't hunter's because we have been nerfed heavily enough for the last few years and lok'delar and rok'delar didn't quite do our classes justice. It's nice to know that end game or before that we as hunters have a decent choice in end game, as nice as the bow is the only pet peeve is that it's not specced specifically for hunters. GG for rogues and warriors... if u roll on this expect your guild to drop as this is a PURELY hunter weapon!

Commentaire de namroht

What exactly does it mean "unique"?

Commentaire de joelsfallon

Read up on it. Don't post it.

Commentaire de joelsfallon

Read up on it. Don't Post it.

Commentaire de Dzamce

My Friend has this bow his name is Stefang hes really improved with this bow :)

Commentaire de Domanastra

I find it stupid that they would put a weapon as powerful as this not limited to a specific class i mean the two azzinoth blades droped by illidan can only be used by rogues and warriors and this bow completly screams hunter and it annoys me that if it does drop everyone is gonna go after since its a legendary really stupid that its not made to be only used by hunters.

Commentaire de sivvo

Is it available for normal players?

Commentaire de Masaba

World first -The bulgarian hunter Stefang <Last Resort>

Commentaire de Foamy

Hey,
Just wondering, is it just me or is it an insult that 2 of the 4 hunters that own this bow via pictures submited are trolls? WTF WERE YOU THINKING! just my 2 cents... Nice bow :D

Commentaire de Schwarzkopf

In the Wrath of the Lich King expansion, one of the changes to the Hunter class is that Steady Shot will incorporate ammunition into its damage calculations. To help balance that, Blizzard is reducing the amount of +damage the ability applies to ranged damage, however they are adding two new ranks.

Of course currently, Steady Shot does not use ammunition in its calculations. That is primary attraction and absolute beauty of this weapon: it generates its own 0 DPS ammunition and has an incredibly high damage range, thus pushing Steady Shot's damage through the roof.

If your guild has cleared T6 content, the Bristleblitz Striker + Timeless Arrow = 148.8 DPS,
the Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas, the first upgrade from BBS, + Timeless Arrow = 150.3 DPS,
compared to Star's Fury's 162.8 DPS.

When Wrath is released, T6+ Hunters without the legendary will be able to achieve damage output close to Star's Fury, however it will remain a top weapon for some time. Blizzard is reducing the status of pre-Wrath legendaries just as they did with pre-BC legendaries. Kil'Jaeden guilds, savor it while you can.

Commentaire de Bareno

WORLD FIRST THORI'DAL TO AN ROGUE SINCE HE WAS MORE COMMITED TO THE GUILD THAN THE HUNTERS! lololllll....

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Area+52&n=Analogkid

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765737195&sid=1&pageNo=1

HAH

Commentaire de Fastgr

HAHA a Rogue got it over a Hunter imba

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Area+52&n=Analogkid

What was the Raid Leader thinking Jesus.. i would /gquit asap if i was a hunter and a Rogue take it over me...

Commentaire de b1tchazzn1gga

bump this for extreme lulz

Commentaire de Backwell

Kharaz of vicarious on Area 52 gave this to a rogue over a hunter.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765687705&sid=1

Commentaire de djdawg89

Rogue Loot

Commentaire de djdawg89

Rogue Loot

Commentaire de Zekath

This bow has gone to a rogue before 2 hunters on the Area 52 realm, the rogue's name is Analogkid, I just freaked out when I heard it. lol!

Commentaire de Bareno

Lol @ people downrateing, I bet its just rogues in disguise wanting their thori'dal.

Commentaire de spookums

WTF a rogue got the bow
second one to ever drop, and a rogue got it, on area 52
from what i could tell, the rogue was the gm friend in real life and the hunters had "only" been in the guild for 3 months
i believe there were 2 hunters in the raid group when it dropped

Commentaire de mack

As 8 August 2008, Analogkid of the guild Vicarious in the realm Area 52-US is the first world Rogue that got the Legendary bow over 2 Hunters on the raid.
The whole story can be followed on the Wow-US forums.

Congratulations Analogkid for the loot.
And congratulations to the Vicarious guild for start raiding from today till the end of the days with no hunters.

Edit: (seems I came too late)

Commentaire de Rasztra

This was given to a rogue on the Area 52 server.

Story:
http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/08/07/forum-post-of-the-day-vicarious-legend/

Armory:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Area+52&n=Analogkid

And you guys rated down my "rogue weapon, imo" comment from a couple months ago! Lol =)

Commentaire de Aiylana

ROGUE wins epic Bow over 2 Hunters. More news here:
http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/08/07/forum-post-of-the-day-vicarious-legend/

I myself am a Raiding Rogue, and this makes me sick to my stomach. How the RL can justify giving it to a Class that won't use it (over 2 other players that very much will) is beyond me. The whole point of this weapon is to help Hunters get back an entire bag slot! That's a minimum of 20 slots! (if you take the ZA quest bag)

Unbelievable.

*edit: Above player just beat me to it. ;P

Commentaire de Kirbymaster

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Area+52&n=Analogkid Rogue with thori'dal, won it over 2 hunters. yeah....

Commentaire de mack

Just for the sake of information someone is still downrating/deleting comments with the FACT that Analogkid Undead Rogue from the guild Vicarious in the server Area52-US is the first world's rogue that obtained it.

Commentaire de Bloodrayneking

Recently There Has Been A Big Uproar Over Looting This Bow In A Guild Who Ran KJ. It Dropped and There Were 2 Hunters Desperate to Get It. The Guild Master Gave It To A Rouge Who Wanted To Range DPS...

Read It Here
http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/08/07/forum-post-of-the-day-vicarious-legend/

Commentaire de foki

huntard weapon!lawlz

Commentaire de Yuksu93

that is the best thing ever no ammo no quiver good speed for my BM Hunter awesome damage and good stats makes me want to cry since i'll never get it....

Commentaire de colann

Actually, the language algorithm used by the in-game "translator" merely makes the words look like Thalassian. It does not actually translate words. Therefore, translated in-game speech isn't true Thalassian. It is a function of the number of letters in the word to be translated. Sorry but Thori'dal does not mean Holy Arrow.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Thalassian#Thalassian_Words

Edit: added link

Commentaire de slimj091

actually there have been a couple other thori'dal's given to rogues before analogkid got his. it's just that analogkid getting one is more famous now because of a hunter that used to be in their guild raising a stink, and spamming every WoW site about it.

Commentaire de Stinga

And you are boasting winning this over two hunters? Pff ... you are the worst. What can you expect. A rogue. And by the char's name, a kid. Figures. Well, now at least they know what you're made of. Hope that when a similar rogue item drops in some instance you get rolled on and beaten by a class that doesnt even use it. Karma.

Commentaire de Gorgaro

Should be a "Hunter only item" imo.

Just how the Glaives were Rogue/Warrior only.

Commentaire de Kurokawa41

Rogue item. =|

Commentaire de Diabetes

Although it is obviously made for a hunter, this is the best item for DPS warriors also. But obviously like I said give it to a hunter first ><.

Commentaire de Neli

Your math is flawed.
The speed with the 15% speed increase is 2,35.

2,7 / 1,15 ~= 2,35

On another note the speed will go down to 1,96 with Imp AotH

2,7 / (1,15 * 1,20) ~= 1,96

Commentaire de Kirbymaster

It's called WoW Forums
Edit: Stinga, you sir, are an idiot

Commentaire de Fallerup

I do agree with you totally on this. It's a hunter weapon. But by not making it "hunter only" this bow as already found its way into the hands of a rogue. Why you ask? Beats me, I dont get the point. I am told that there were at least 2 hunters in that raid that didn't have the bow and they gave it to the rogue anyway. Its really stuff like that that makes this game suck when it comes to rewarding your raid members. If a rogue has any use for this, for its stats, then a hunter can Dual wield warglaives for sure, they have awsome stats too for a hunter. Things such as hitrating, ap, stamina and agility, yet, they get tagged as "Rogue/warrior only" why is this? Why not make a unique hunter weapon?

EDIT: oh I see you already pulled up the artical about the incedent, but my opinion still stands, make warglaives useable by hunters too, as thunderfury was in its glory days and then let the whining from rogues and warriors begin!

Commentaire de Girlcaster

Since when can pallies use bows?

Commentaire de Krite

The best companion to a Hunter besides our pet. Awesome DPS, awesome stats, and no ammunition costs.

I agree this should be a Hunter only item, that or remove the Rogue/Warrior only specification on the Warglaives.

Commentaire de lawmanmu

the rogue now has 3 legendary weapons tho, which is pretty sweet. Im not saying in any way, shape or form that he should have taken this away from 2 hunters but it is pretty cool to have 3 legendary weapons.

Commentaire de fidelis

My name is Corrupter on my private server. A night elf rogue was wrote my name in darnassian and my name means Thori'dal:O

Commentaire de Fallerup

yeah, just like I said in the comment above, which is downrated... both my above comments are viable. Why should Rogues and warriors be the only spoiled classes in the game? Hunter is unique and should be treated as such. Its unique because its the only class in the game that deals physical ranged damage. Every other type of damage is covered by at least 2 classes. Melee = warrior and rogue. magic melee = paladin and shaman... caster = mage/warlock/priest/ele shaman... hunter is the only one with its type of damage.

so, make Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury "Hunter only" ... for the sake of all things unique.

the problem then becomes: what about the bows already handed out to the greedy people? Well, they can stay like this, as long as the next drop says Hunter only.

enough said. But this wont happen because it will not matter in a couple of months or 3, noone will care. But it should have been done when they made Kil'jaeden killable.

its sad that Blizzard will never look at all the classes equally, there will always be favourites in certain areas. When it comes to weapons its warriors, rogues and casters (Thunderfury/warglaives/Staff from Naxx). They are trying their best now to make the abilities as equal as possible, but I bet that will fail too.

Commentaire de dtyo123123

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Commentaire de warpollo

the hunters of a guild want to die. because the main rogue of his guild got this bow. the guild did that cause the hunters were new to that guild. u can armory that rogue his name is : analogkid he seems to be the best rogue, cause he have t6 and the other gear is from sunwell plateau, jhis weaps r legendary, he has the 2 warglaives and the thori'dal,stars' fury bow. the most sad for the hunters is that he only uses it probably to pull mobs. that hunters of the guild felt with offense for giving the best bow to a rogue.

Commentaire de Dreinyr

The ultimate hunter item

Commentaire de lovelywaz

He must've moved the server, here's the new link to his profile.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Stefang

Commentaire de naxxar26

very good bow!

Commentaire de Mokal

Rogue item

Commentaire de DkDabura

i got this bow and it really ownz!

Commentaire de gnomosexual

guys... this item sells for 18g! o.o

Commentaire de azuretwilight

Turns out a Rogue was able to get the bow.

From what I understand, the raid leader didn't like the attitude of the hunters that went to the raid in weeks past and while raiding, so he decided to teach them a lesson.

edit: its an armory link not a keylogger.

Commentaire de Ajati

Why would I want to get this? Not because it is an awesome hunter item, but because its name was written in orange. Yup.

Commentaire de Vashra

yeah but it's not like you're gonna just go farm one.
So it's lovely.
I'll enjoy looking at it on wowhead for years to come.

But I'll probably have a maxed out death knight before I ever see this bow >.<

Commentaire de nick31896

is it possible for a dwarf hunter to get bow skills? this bow is absolutely awesome..... and if i can't learn the bow skill that would be a waste.....

are there even any legendary guns in the game?

Thanks in advance.....

Commentaire de tehMurloc

Alternatively, you can go to http://www.wowmodelviewer.org/, and install WoW Model Viewer.
You can use it to see any item's look and animations with every race, and with better quality than a video.
(The program requires a valid and patched copy of WoW installed on your computer)

Commentaire de Rilgon

What, you mean aside from an entire expansion's worth of completely uncontested, mathematically insurmountable DPS advantage?

That's not love to you?

Commentaire de shrrg

carnifex from eminence on sargeras also has thori'dal...he got it a few weeks ago

armory:http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sargeras&n=Carnifex

Commentaire de manhuntzor

http://i.thottbot.com/ss/o/913.jpg

nuff said?

Commentaire de PheonixE

Yeah, I was actually surprised by the number of people who thought that the chat translated each and every word into different words of the corresponding language selected, but it's nice to let people have their dreams....

Commentaire de Mokal

Rogue item!

Commentaire de korvhuve

Question, since Steady Shot WILL benefit from ammo dps, and that the highest ranged dps i've seen on a level 80 item, yet, is 130..

Will Thori'Dal still rule at 80? o.O

Commentaire de Zizalial

A hunter can dream, but to make it come true you must kill over and over and hope for the best.

Commentaire de Hammerskull

No hunter with -any- honor at all would roll on Thunderfury!

Commentaire de damonoman

An incredibly loud ventrilo nerd rage over whether a BM Hunter or a Combat Rogue should win this bow can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

Commentaire de Meera

Any hunter can explain me how much this bow will be useful? has decent dps rate and nice stats to wear until level 80. I know some good high-end bow + arrows could do nastier DPS, I'm just curious how much this would be on hunters.

Commentaire de brenthebli

So far, its better than all the lvl 80 epic bows. But heres an idea for a replacement:

Ice Shard Longbow

Obtained From: Arthas, or one of the other Icecrown Citidel bosses

The bow makes its own ice arrows to fire

has the haste boost from Thorendal

Has simaller, but pumped effects from Thorendal

Has legendary quality

Commentaire de shadowarror

have you just said that for all of the drops from KJ?

Commentaire de Wuggums

99.99% chance he ran sunwell with his guild.

And since he's still in it, the hunters are probably cool with it.

Commentaire de Snakeweirdo

A warrior with warglaives is just as OP, I would just wish there dropped legendary for each class

Commentaire de carlospiramo

Primeira coisa, na minha opiniao foi um grande erro da blizzard esse arco, porque?

bem simples, colocar um arco lendario, de drop do sunwell? o patch que menos durou no jogo? e praticamente ridiculo, um arco tao bom, desenho tao bem feito, praticamente o sonho de todo hunter e ja acabou....

a xpac ta ai, e o fim do arco tambem, logo creio que a blizzard errou, devia ter esperado um pouco mais e feito um arco lendarioque realmente fosse usado no jogo.

errou simplemente no "quando" disponibilizou o arco...muito nem sentiram vontade de ir la pega-lo por sua pouca durabilidade em jogo.

"im trying to explanation my coment in english, but i think its not good idea, becase my english is bad.

however, i think the blizzard use the wrong way to put this bow in game.

blizzard put the bow on last patch...and the smaller patch, this is "the lendary bow" and? u dont have time to go take, and when the WOLK start this bow not is more "good".

in short word this is my opnion.

sorry for my english, but i trying help!"

Commentaire de aliexo

any1 knows the display ID of this item?

Commentaire de Myndfire

Anarkihunt, Night Elf hunter on Dragonmaw got this today on Server first KJ kill

Commentaire de Myndfire

Anarkihunt, Night Elf hunter on Dragonmaw got this today on Server first KJ kill

Commentaire de Empala

Come Wrath, it's a levelling weapon more than anything really. Your Hunters' finances will love you for it.

If you use Saronite Razorheads and for example get Arrowsong, the combined DPS is higher than Thori'dal's.

208.9 DPS vs 162.8 DPS.

Commentaire de Ciel

With better ammo, even the Twins bow will beat Thori'dal, it's main use in the expansion will be free leveling/grinding.

Commentaire de razoreas

Mangee, a horde hunter player got this on Jaedenar EU.

Commentaire de Silentsavant

This thing looks absolutely MASSIVE on a male Tauren, taller than the actual player. Check it out on the new 3D Model Viewer. (I used Java)

Oh and yes, thish thing is Godly.

Commentaire de Ularathann

As of the new patch 3.0.2, is this still even in the game, every time try to link it, it just says "retrieving information"? anyway just curious as to whether anyone can confirm for me if it is.

Commentaire de Ronyx

As Steady Shot now scales with ammo, and unless this bow gets a buff from blizz, you're going to see the Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas favoured over this.

Commentaire de hetoo

Actually he didnt... ammo bags(or what its called) also grants you %15 ranged speed

Commentaire de Megabomb

I think that anyone else that rolls and gets the legendary bow and is not a hunter he should get a big kick in the ass. Unless there are no hunters in the raid who can roll for the bow. But thats stupid when a rogue or warrior roll for the bow and win it and not the hunters. The bow should always go to the class which can use it the best.

Commentaire de tehMurloc

Well, you can always have a gnome on your both sides to carry extra weaponry! (in the case you need such)
And nope, that isn't discrimination of gnomes, really! And if that is, remember, I didn't say anything!

Commentaire de cersei

This was quite of a shock when i heard about it, ye, now u will say: welcome to last month.
anyway,
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765737195&sid=1&pageNo=1

Commentaire de whodouthink9999

my mage would do so much damage with that but hunters laugh at me when i roll on bows

Commentaire de sandyjaques

its totally insane how even now with wotlk out this bow is still the highest dps bow in the game =/ just goes to show far ahead of its time this bow was but at least its not the highest dps wep in the game anymor. and just because thoridal makes its own ammo doesnt mean u cant use ammo with it to boost its dps

Commentaire de rokkitan

Steady Shot has always consumed ammo, so the patch notes were inaccurate. What they meant was that Steady Shot now also uses ammo dps in the calculation for it's damage. Earlier one could use the lowest dps arrows and still get the same damage from Steady Shot as the highest dps ammo.

Commentaire de Mayia

Once steady shot got nerfed to using ammo damage (boost unless you had that bow) the Bow became a tiny upgrade over the bow that dropped from Twins.
I killed KJ before Lich came out still hoping for this to drop for the only reason of "because buying ammo is annoying while leveling!" Our first kill Yielded one to our Hunter Officer but he didn't get much use out of it before lich.

I really wish blizzard had done something like the Glaives for hunters and had it something we could've sought after and used for a good couple of months.. and another content patch. Feels highly wasted Thunderfury was in MC (Kara/Naxx of TBC/WOTLK) which made it a godly Legendary.

I don't foresee many people heading back to Sunwell to get this.

Commentaire de Legomyegolas

I think the real question here is, what does it disenchant into?

Commentaire de Shibam

It never ruled at 80 with our with out steady shot nerf, because it cant use bought ammo meaning with new bows+ammo it is higher dps then old bow. Basicly 168dps cutting out what ammo was made this equivilant to a 121dps bow with built in 46.5 ammo. But now you can get 129dps range easy from heroics and crafted and naxx with 46.5 vendor ammo or 67.5dps created. 121dps is still very good pre 80 till you get a lvl 80 bow and ya everyones made a good point great for leveling all the way.

Even with out steadyshot consuming ammo it would still be very close to other ranged items, other ranged items would do more dps with autoshots and this would do more dmg with steady. The dmg youd output with autoshots with new bows would probably out perform the dmg you'd get from holding on to this bow for steady shots. Plus alot more stats on other items that pet can better take advantage of i.e. more ap on bows crit for focus regen etc.

Commentaire de Kevie

this is hunters gear :D

Commentaire de rubino7

i think this weapon isnt the best one, because it uses no ammo. ammo gives extra dps btw. so if you remove the ammo bonus you see it isnt at that good.

Commentaire de Hurono

Steady Shot's getting nerfed. Sooo... Yeeeaaah... Wanna see how this plays out... I wanted this bow so badly, but next patch... Just wait and see. =/

Commentaire de GyleD

what is the drop chance out of 100

Commentaire de trogodor

Here's a fun fact for all you.
w/o ammo, this still has the highest DPS in game, over the 25 man KT.
Then if you add in ammo then many are higher.

Commentaire de Healevenmore

Sorry i HAVE to say it

'ZOMFG HUNTER WEAPON!1111one!'

Commentaire de RetributionHamma

It's kinda funny, this bow has more dps than Arrowsong, of course that is only true if you dont add the dps of arrows into this equation.

Commentaire de skarredsam

i just wanted to point out that a rogue wielding thori'dal and BOTH warglaives of azzinoth would have immense DPS (ranged and melee)and also be the envy of basically the whole of 11mil+ players

p.s 3 legendarys is just plain greedy!

Commentaire de netherbeam

However i play on a private server, that does on donors. the donors have paid over 200 dolars so i dont think that our server goes to wotlk becous of the donors. and i need this bow on my hunter :) its sick does alot of dmg and with my 5/8t I will do some dmg :D

Commentaire de Corhen

Awww, i wanted to get Thunderfury on my Lock, would have been useless, but So, So, cool

Commentaire de Gilthalas

Analogkid stole Thori'dal from the hunters for the sole reason that he wanted to complete his "Set of Legendaries." He was kicked out of his guild soon after ninja-ing.

Commentaire de Mastercide

Looking at pure DPS you'd be better off with Arrowsong and Terrorshaft arrows...You wouldn't even need the Saronite Razorheads to get a 25+ boost to DPS.

Commentaire de 148master

Still better than Envoy of Mortality imo. Comparison.

Commentaire de trogodor

Um, not really after you add ammo dps.
Maybe just for steady, but such a little amount

Commentaire de NekoSOM

Thanks. Considering clicking on the DPS tab while searching bows will provide that very data...that information wasn't redundant at all! /sarcasm

Commentaire de Utudfhgd

perfect if you wanna get rid of arrows who use bags and quivers, like we all wanna.

Commentaire de Hurono

Still best at 70. Only issue being drop rate dropped...

To ikko: Incorrect. Add ammo DPS to the higher end weapons, and what do you have? Far higher DPS than this. Thorid'al has the highest BC ammo DPS built into it; the WotLK ammo DPS, combined with the best weapons of the expansion, beat this by a long shot. MM specced Hunters, however, may want to hold on to this, the damage increases are far superior for them, due to high weapon damage.

Correction: Forget what I posted on higher weapon damage, at 80 you have sooo many better choices. Envoy of Mortality is the best of all.

Commentaire de ikko

Still has highest DPS for a Bow

Commentaire de Netheral

It is in NO way superior to Envoy. Envoy uses ammo, ammo increases it's dps by 51 and last but not least, SS now uses ammo and gets all bonuses that there are there to be had. For anyone interested in getting this bow after WOTLK, it would only be for the "free ammo" effect and the gimmick of owning a legendary. (And to add, no, it does not outshine any, of the current "raiding" ranged weapons, especially after all changes. The change to SS actually nerfed this bow considerably, bringing it further away from it's rightful legendary status.)

(Ok, apart from looks. :>)

Commentaire de Ido2312

Too bad,as announced by blizzard for patch 3.1.0,Arrows and Bullets will no longer be consumed so this bow's amazing effect is useless as of 3.1.0

Commentaire de gggn4

THE BEST bow in the game even after WotLK and i think that will be the best bow even after the
lich king in self will be out (and that will happen in probebly 3.3.X and that means there will be a few new bosses that are stronger that naxx so.... SHIAAAAAAT!) anyways... really nice bow :D

Commentaire de Ido2312

I said "Arrowes and Bullets will no longer be consumed". I didnt say no more arrowes/bullets,so why rating down?I said a right thing.

Commentaire de Artephact

It's time to take vengeance against the huntards in the game and call this a roguetard weapon.

Commentaire de russ18uk

Will be interesting if Blizzard change an old weapon when they remove ammo from the game entirely. This bow's best use at 80 is grinding, saving you gold when killing creatures for your daily quests and meat grinds.

With the ammo changes incoming soon, this bow will lose its extraordinary feature.

Anyway, this is a cliche but "old item is old", but legendaries will always have a uniqueness, except for this one.

Commentaire de Celia

Because this bow ignores ammo DPS, this bow will become progressively weaker as the game marches on. In BC the best ammo was 53 DPS, giving this bow an effective 109.8 DPS. With the release of Wrath, the best ammo is 67.5 DPS, making this bow effectively 95.3 DPS. If the game lasts long enough for 162.8 DPS ammo to be introduced, this bow will basically be worth zero DPS.

Commentaire de bluefurryfood

I love how so many people are saying the same thing every single time....all of it is true but don't think someone is retarded enough to ask the question "why does this have so much dps?" when there's like a million responses toward that.

You guys make me lol.

Commentaire de bondi

Funny thing is that its still the highest dps bow in the game... (not counting ammo)

Commentaire de Talbuk

I wonder if the 15% haste change from effecting the quiver to affecting the auto shot will double stack with Thori'dal's effect since it only says quiver or ammo pouch haste effects.

Commentaire de Hurono

Delete the above comment and Blizz won't know! FAST!

Commentaire de rokkitan

I wonder if the 15% haste change from effecting the quiver to affecting the auto shot will double stack with Thori'dal's effect since it only says quiver or ammo pouch haste effects.

Edit: The bow used to have Legendary Bow Haste as earlier it was the quivers or ammo pouches that gave from 10 to 15% (maximum, reached with last quivers pre TBC and constant thereafter) haste and since this bow generated it's own arrows no quiver was needed. With patch 3.1.0 haste was built into autoshot and arrows stacked to 1000 removing the haste buff from this bow, before patch 4.0.1 removed ammo in the game. It's still an awesome looking bow with a nice firing animation.

Commentaire de Fabolous1990

That is one nice weapon, makes me want to lvl a hunter :|

Commentaire de tehbob12123

I have a level 80 hunter, and by wowhead's database it says that this is the highest dps bow in the game. My question is, is it still worth it to try to get this at level 80? It is a full 20 dps higher than the next dps bow, so what should I do. Sunwell should be relatively easy at 80 for a 10 man raid.

Commentaire de Zektro

New to the game, isn't Kil'Jaeden an alliance boss? I certainly hope not seeing as only the horde would be able to get it.

Commentaire de aneraxz

and KJ is much easier to kill...

Commentaire de alfonzzo

since there's no "class: Hunter" designation, if a mage (for example) loots it will they still get the Feat of Strength achievement?

Commentaire de Stephon123

looks sweet

Commentaire de achilles35

Today I compared this bow to some Epic Bows on PTRs from Pre-made chars. This is what I got:

Thori'dal, the Star's Fury vs Bow Siren's Cry vs Gun Giant's Bane

As you can see the Epics from Ulduar have a bit of a damage increase compared to the Sunwell Bow, but when you put down cost of Ammo and Ammo Pouches, I think you'll find that between those Ranged Weapons, Thori'dal, the Star's Fury is the most useful if you already have it from pre-WotLK. Otherwise with the 6% drop rate I'd say its not worth farming unless you've got a Guild who knows the place and you've got all that free time. (Or if you're just an Achievement Maniac and you want the Feat of Strength from the bow at all costs. :P) If you already have it though, and you're not a Tank ('cause if you are and you have that unless you re-specced at some point to Tanking you shouldn't really have that -saying this for Warriors-) use it, be grateful for the free Ammo and help some other poor bloke win his/her roll on his Ulduar Epic Bow/Gun. :P

Commentaire de unholynite

HOLY #$%^! this is the best bow i have ever seen! to me, at 70 vs 80 only difference is 80s shots, 80s bows are a little better, but still i mean a marksman huner, i could crit 3-4k with this bow and arcane shot let alone chimera, steady, aimed, and last but not least, KILL SHOT!

Commentaire de puddi

You dont need guild all you need is decent geared 3 tank and 5 healer and some good dps thats it :D

Commentaire de achilles35

But will they listen to you while you explain how you do the instance, or will they just go off and make you spend... 30G on repairs before you said "thats it I quit, you can't listen"?

Commentaire de search116

yeah it really should be hunter only i did a run on sunwell and i lost the bow to a rouge who needed it and yes if u read this and ur that rouge go to hell

Commentaire de Toldry

Thori'dal means "Splinters" in Darnassian.
But then again, many other 9 letter words are "Thori'dal" since that's how the Darnassian translating system works :(

Commentaire de maxisawesome

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Area+52&cn=Analogkid&gn=Vicarious (bottom of feats of strength, and you can see the date)
Won it over 2 hunters
The RL let him roll too

Commentaire de search116

ur messed up for needing that when there where 2 other hunters

Commentaire de Thunderblast

Is this bow good for an 80 hunter? And (sorry but my main's still level 52) do the gates to sunwell plateau open at random dates by blizzard?

Commentaire de Sandos

Not to be hard on you or anything but chances that you are going to see this bow drop and win it are extremely small. Nevertheless, there are many bows and guns out there that are way better than this one on level 80.

Commentaire de gnorkmazrigos

Friends come and go. Epics are soulbound.

Commentaire de gnorkmazrigos

this bow generates arrows, which will let hunters fill their bag with something else than arrows! ''Thori'dal generates arrows when the string is drawn''. this effect also gives a 15% ranged attack speed, which does not stack so you wont get 30% by using a quiver.

Commentaire de rotoro

as a hunter id love to have this bow no mater my lvl(currently lvl 80) i still think this bow is better then most bows c bows and guns in game, the speed is amazing with these stats it makes for the perfect weapon for any hunter spec, it could use a lil more agility but that's nothing that cant be fixed with a good scope. on top of that it dosent use ammo

if u get the chance to roll on this as a hunter (should have priority on need rolls for this or any other loot system) take it

alos a good weapon for any other class that use a some range to pull(of course u wont be using it to its full potential)

Commentaire de Gormourn

Do you even know what you're talking about?

The DPS I'm talking about is the DPS on weapon.

The Ulduar bows have weapon DPS of about 180. And that's without any arrows, which add a formidable amount of damage on their own.

This has weapon DPS of 162.8 and it's NOT affected by ARROW DPS because it doesn't USE arrows.

Even arrows available in BC granted 30 or more DPS to the weapon, which made this bow fairly comparable to level 70 epics of similar item level.

The only difference is that Steady Shot never took ammo/arrow DPS in consideration since it did Weapon Damage + Bonus Damage, and since Thori'dal had higher weapon damage/dps (which IS weapon damage divided by weapon speed), it would do a LOT more damage. On Steady Shots. Which were used by every spec back in BC, since Explosive shot wasn't yet in game.

And FYI, arrows' (and bullets, duh) own DPS is multiplied BY the weapon's speed. So an arrow with, say, 100DPS on a bow with 3 second attack speed would add 300 damage on every shot. Which is no joke, considering how right now, bows generally have some 600ish damage per shot, before AP and other damage enhancing effects taking place. And, of course, there aren't any 100 dps arrows... yet.

Oh, and if you DO only look at Steady Shot numbers, Thori'dal's damage would be obviously lower then Ulduar bows', but still at a fairly similar level.

(355+524)/2 + X + AP/14 = average damage using Steady Shot with Thori-dal, X being the bonus damage.

(387+661)/2 + X + AP/14 = average damage using Steady Shot with Siren's Cry.

Now, lets substitute 0 for X since frankly, X is the same in both cases and doesn't matter because it's the bonus damage on Steady Shot. And since hunters don't get a lot of AP from their weapon - most of it comes from their gear and their stat sticks since ranged weapons rarely have too much stats - maybe +/- 200 AP, no more. So the AP of a hunter wearing the same armor and spec using Siren's Cry will be vaguely the same compared to the AP of a hunter wearing the same armor and spec using Thori-dal, which lets us ignore AP in our calculation, since it doesn't have to be that precise.

So, what we're left with are 2 damage averages. 508 average damage coming from WEAPON alone per Steady Shot with Thori'dal, and 524 average damage coming from weapon alone per Steady Shot with Siren's Cry. Assuming the hunter has the same or similar AP, and the same talents which may or may not provide % increase to Steady Shot damage, the damage will be almost the same.

However, we must not ignore the fact that hunters do get a fair amount of their damage from Autoshots, especially since they can be fired while using Steady Shot. And in this case, Thori'dal loses miserably because it will only be able to do average of 508 damage on shot assuming the hutner has 0 AP, while Siren's Call with\124h\124r");] these babies will be doing an average of 524 + 67.5 X 2.80 damage resulting in 713 damage on average in the same impossible 0 AP and 0 mitigation situation. Which is a big increase.

So, yeah, I suppose if you have Thori'dal lying in your bank, it's certainly a good weapon to farm things, since they'd die quick in any case and you can just spam steady shot - you'd still do more damage then if you were melee, and you'd save the precious ammo which can be quite costly if you go out farming/PvPing/Rading often since the best ammo is player made at the moment.

Commentaire de darkboy

not bad bow & good crit i like this for dont need arrow and have good arrows

Commentaire de Cattpride

For once you will not be yelled at for saying: This is a very good hunter item, since we all want to get rid of the Ammo pouch / Quiver, and lose that ammunition cost. Good luck getting it!

Most bows, guns, and crossbows are good hunter items, seeing as how they are made for hunters. I mean, seriously, you aren't expecting for there to be a ranged weapon made for warriors or other classes who can use bows other than hunters, right?
Besides, other than ridding you of your Quiver and giving you 6-22 bag slots for other items, this bow isn't that powerful compared to other end-game, high level bows. Mostly any bow with at least 100 DPS and Saronite Razorheads in the ammunition slot will beat this in DPS. It's stats aren't very good either. All it gives is 17 Agility, an a small* amount of Attack Power, Critical Strike Rating, and Armor Penetration.
Drakkari Hunting Bow beats it in DPS by a small margin with Saronite Razorheads, as well as in stats, from which 27 Agility will probably give you ranged attack power and crit rating close to what Thori'dal has.

Commentaire de RedwoodElf

Let's assume that the magical arrows it creates are the best in the game (+67.5 DPS) - that would make it's actual DPS around 95.3 which, while respectible, is about on a par with a level 80 green bow, strictly DPS-wise (It has better stats of course...it IS a legendary weapon, after all)

If you want more ranged DPS, get a blue or purple level 80 bow...if you don't mind the lower DPS in exchange for never having to worry about ammo ever again, then this is the bow for you. Even for those with one of those high powered elite bows, this is still nice to have around as a backup in case you run out of ammo, or want to save your high damage shots for bosses/elites.

To whoever downrated this: What's the matter, you can't figure out 162.8 minus 67.5 (Saronite Razorheads)? It DOES come out to 95.3 DPS, which is pretty close to Military Compound Bow - Gee, that IS a level 80 green....Guess I was RIGHT.

DO try to not downrate accurate comments.

Commentaire de Cattpride

Whatever, main point is, most/all ranged weapons (excluding wands) are made for hunters. Therefore, they are all "hunter weapons".

Commentaire de NetherNick

When i went, the guy dropped it...some warrior needed it and won D:<

Commentaire de Katsin

He DID say most

Commentaire de Gurluas

Can the drop rate here be trusted?

Commentaire de RedwoodElf

That's no excuse to downrate current, accurate information. If the post ABOVE it is now innacurate, then downrate it so the outdated information will eventually go away.

Commentaire de Saytek

Sorry about not telling anything useful (i know this isnt thotbot) but they should make a class :hunter on it, today i was the only hunter in the group and a rogue won this.They should seriously make a class specific item =(

Commentaire de pterrodaxx

Highest DPS in TBC

Commentaire de kendall997

This bow kinda looks like Slyvanas Windrunners bow . Well when she was a high elf.

Commentaire de Monopolist

Post Patch 3.2, it's been confirmed by the Blue that for those who can not equip the Legendary items, we can not get the associated Feats of Strength Achievements. Per Blue Dev, the change was made "due to the new instance item trading feature" implemented in Patch 3.2.

I can confirm this, as I acquired Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury for my Death Knight a day after the implementation of Patch 3.2, but I did not get the Feat of Strength Achievement.

Here's the link with Blue's response:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19110064020&sid=1

So for the aspiring players trying to get the FoS associated with BC legendaries, I say don't waste your time if you can't equip them!

Commentaire de Demonnight90

If your a mage with this weapon your pretty dumb. no offence but my bet they are goin to add some weapons like this 1 some time when ICC comes out ( If you don't know what ICC is it is Icecrown Ciditdel were the Lich king will become a raid boss). Also careful in ICC i was attacked by the Lich king and he hits damage to every1 in the group i flew to close to him during a quest and well my pet didn't get out of there but i sure did.

Commentaire de howlermonkey

Built into autoshot, actually.

Commentaire de Freigedank

Yes. Enjoy being blacklisted by butthurt hunters.

Commentaire de Monopolist

I am sorry for asking this, but... what are you smoking?

Commentaire de Thrakin

W.

T.

F?

Commentaire de strajo

huntards >.>

Commentaire de reid52

Only one person can get the achievement per drop, unfortunately =[. Also, it didn't award me the achievement until I actually equipped it, meaning maybe classes that can't use bows can't get the achievement?

Commentaire de Fox24

yes they will, and now in 3.2 with the new trade feature thing they can trade it off to everyone in the raid for the achievment, and then give it to the lv70 hunter thats drooling on his keyboard.

Commentaire de Fox24

rate up that comment.... its freeking hilarious (talking about the guy who's saying something about ICC and his pet dieing) lol ^^ also, VERY nice bow, if anything keep it for when u go farm things and u will save TONS of gold on ammo ^^

Commentaire de Poisonedheart

Well this bow is cleanly AWESOME, the class that needs it more is ofc the hunter.
So if you win this bow as a warrior or rogue when there is a hunter in the group then you deserve to get killed. lol

Commentaire de CunkleTron

Question...

Does this item only drop in heroic? Or can it be dropped on non-heroic?

Thanks.

Commentaire de manony

ninja'ed by a mage yesterday what a $%^&*!@

Commentaire de orindie

But since you can now trade soulbound items to people who were there, can't everyone in the raid get the achie now by just trading it around?

Commentaire de darom

Looks like im not getting my ass kicked for saying hunter weapon

Commentaire de strajo

Oh and... cool story bro

Commentaire de axewindu

Won it yesterday on my rogue. Cool bow. rolled a 99 against a hunters 12, a warriors 78 and another rogue that rolled awfully close with a 97

Commentaire de polkmn

It is a Best weapon for hunter and warrior on http://gigafun.mightandmagic.cz
to je nejlepší zbraň pro huntery a warriory na http://gigafun.mightandmagic.cz

Commentaire de malrion

I still would love this for grinding in wotlk, completly empty bags ftw

Commentaire de droodman

Guess so...

Commentaire de droodman

How much hp does Kiljaeden have on normal mode?

Commentaire de aneraxz

omg...this is one reason that makes me want to go back to BC! this bow is beatiful! :D

Commentaire de adaw31

yes this weapon is good for a rogue but is better for a hunter since they use bows alot more than rogues since rogues can basically already get the warglaives

Commentaire de xxdsl26xx

would this be decent for a dps fury warrior it has good dps stats and the agil could help with crit % and they wouldnt need to spend money on arrows

Commentaire de naxxcr

they wouldnt need to spend money on arrows

lol

Commentaire de Dr4gonW1nd

Sure this is a Hunter wep but.. I would kinda give it to a Rouge since Hunters can get http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30318 which is better, and only for Hunter's... Would be kinda sad if a Hunter just got this wep and get Netherstrand Longbow the next day, and ain't avaible to give this wep to the Rouge in the Raid... Oh well, that's just how i am thinking. (Excuse my bad English, lol.)

Commentaire de Paradin

I don't see the reason why YOU should tell us all this. If you really had a problem with the comments wouldn't it be better if you contacted the owners of this site to make a blog or something about comment rules? Instead of you writing a comment filling the must out with criticism..

And for the people thinking "You do the exact same thing!", I do not get infuriated by some people commenting irrelevant stuff on the internet about an Item. And I hope you feel the same way!

Commentaire de Paradin

Commentaire de Desworks

Edit: All a response to a pair of deleted posts, downrate if you feel they should be dropped off the page and I'll delete them. ;)

...You're telling Miyari to contact the owners of this site? Really?

Click here to see why your post is about to become the most deleted one ever.

Commentaire de Paradin

Oh well, then he/she might be able to write a blog about it, instead of being irrational.

And another thing, they may delete my comment or they could take it in consideration. The choice is theirs and i wouldn't care if they did, I've have tried to do my part.

But here, I'll combine all of the thoughts into one post so I can save you guys the downrating drama:

...

Okay?

That is what I dont like about that comment. Instead of being sarcastic, it would be an idea to be concrete and informative with a positive feeling, instead of speaking to the masses in arrogance.

EDIT: I found a word of what happens, she lose some of her authority, or well she don't. But it may look like that.

Commentaire de Desworks

And another thing, they may delete my comment or they could take it in consideration.

I didn't mean they would delete it. It'll be purged after the downrating storm. Poor choice of words at the time.

You may not like the above comment much, but from it's rating you can see that there's quite a few people who found it to be very appropriate, especially considering the state of this page when it was made. The comment is now over a year and a half old and was entirely appropriate for this page when it was made (it was a total mess at the time). Criticizing the way this site is run isn't against the rules (there's a site feedback forums especially for it), but raising a stink about a post 18+ months after it was made? There's no point or purpose in that.

Anyway, that's my say in the matter. Downrank me if you really disagree, as that is the point of the ranking system.

Commentaire de trendyusername

My guildmates and I started a SW raid to help a level 70 in our guild. We only had nine people with the 70, so yeah, no go. We quit three pulls into it. But I'm a fresh level 80, and I STILL %^&*ING WANT THIS BOW. It's only got a stat loss of -3 sta and -11 agl compared to my current gun, everything else is BONUS. And not having to use ammo? I'd never get rid of it. Well, not NEVER, but you get the idea.

I would have a bank slot reserved for it, and pull it out every now and then just to sigh at it... = w=

Maybe I can bully my guildmates into doing a full-guild run of it. Or at least 15 people.

Commentaire de Viciouss

Besides beeing useless for melee .... This is 100% hunter item . Only a retard guild master would even wave this at a melee be4 all hunters in the guild have it....You ppl must be trolling

Commentaire de Daniera

Up until they reduced the amount of saronite needed to make arrows, I was using this bow in heroics and in Naxx to save time farming. Its still a great bow to use when running around in the world and I occasionally get whispers when I'm seen using it :)

Commentaire de sappheiros

Get over it. It's old raiding content, and now a Feat of Strength. This opened it up for EVERYONE to try to roll on it.

Commentaire de Oilcan

The Monday prior to 3.3.2 patch, we downed Kil'Jaeden and this dropped.

We were all 80s and I was the only hunter, though there was one rogue and two warriors who could also equip it.

By the time we sorted it out, no one remembered if they passed or greeded or whatever, so I Needed it and got it.

Not actually planning to use it, I then rolled off against the warriors and the rogue for who keeps it.

The rogue won, I traded it to her, she equipped, and got the Achievement, which we hadn't known about. She said that the 2 hour trade limit still seemed to be on it, so she traded it back to me, I equipped it, and also got the Achievement, and traded it back to her.

However, when she traded it to one of the warriors, he equipped it but DID NOT get the Achievement.

So..it IS possible to get more than one Achievement from one drop, but it may be limited by either two APs, or perhaps by the number of times it is traded.

Commentaire de teodorxx

This was a best bow in TBC :)

Commentaire de necrophega

It will probably be removed of the release of Cataclysm. Just fyi. :)

Commentaire de dm0190

there is no source for this information.
this is speculation.
you are annoying. you don't post things like that.
we are looking for facts here.
1. the bow has endless ammo. if ammo is no longer consumable in cataclysm then the bow is likely to be modified, not changed.
2. fact is, despite no tie ins with any significant lore, they are very very unlikely to remove this legendary from the game. why? because you get a feat of strength for it and it is a significant weapon, and the only legendary primarily aimed at hunters.
3. I don't see how a revamp of old azeroth would affect part of the tbc expansion.
4. they don't 'remove'. they make things unobtainable. naxx 40 legendary?

and that smiley you put at the end just made me even more irritated by you.
go troll somewhere else.

Commentaire de TheeObserver

If you view Thori'dal and Abbadon or any other weapon in the same column in the item comparison tool's 3D-viewer, it puts both of the weapons in the same hand and it melds them together to make one weapon and it looks pretty sweet with Abbadon in my opinion.

Commentaire de Vardian

seriously i would trade a small child to have this.

Commentaire de dblester

dropped today on Area 52, it was open rolls so anyone could roll people thought you could get the FoS even if you couldnt equip... DK won he was offered 20k for it and turned it down.... kinda sad to see it rotting on a char that cant get the FoS and or show it off.

Commentaire de Skarthe

Miyari, I love you.

Commentaire de Burzolog

According to the Cataclysm Hunter Preview, ammunition will be removed from the game, effectively applying this weapon's awesome and unique equip effect to all ranged weapons.

Commentaire de howeld

still one of the best bows in the game even if you are 80 XD

Commentaire de Myx0

Come Cataclysm, the magical properties of this bow will be applied to all bows and guns.
According to the Cataclysm Hunter Class preview, ammunition will be removed from the game.

A major change coming for the hunter is the removal of ammunition. Guns, bows, and crossbows will now do damage without consuming ammunition at all. There will be no more ammo slot on the hunter’s character display.

This change will affect all bow/gun wielding classes. Existing ammunition will no longer have a function and will turn into a junk quality item.

Commentaire de Chundermark

Fellow Ninja haters, i have decided to use the power of the internet to my advantage. It seems that on tarren Mill EU, Alliance, Tirel has just recieved T'D as a gift from Kil'Jaeden. Although not many ppl were happy abt the way he got this gift....after a HUGE amount of deliberation and BS, he ninja'ed the bow. Then after, the usual crappy reason of ninja and fight whatnot, he HS'ed. Just thought u'd like to know. Tirel : 70 rogue, Ressurected. Svslv(or w/e) on horde side. ReMade. Thanks for reading, and thankyou for a new addition to ur ignore lists i hope. G'night!

Commentaire de Kraptyr

I'm trying to get Thori'dal for my hunter and everybody says:"that's really hard to get why do you spend time in Sunwell Plateau trying to get it? It's so stupid!". Actually, is not. It has to drop to someone we must try if we want them... It's hard to get but when you have it you feel good because you went there thousand times but you have it! So if people keep saying that don't listen when you have it you feel great!

Commentaire de ilidiandemon

Cheapest way to lvl up your bow skill :D

Commentaire de UlarnekofArygos

666 raing lol

Commentaire de themguyman

so this thing makes its own ammo? my god its magic (and it will save a lot of money till its replaced)

Commentaire de LtSparklies

They should've named this bow "The Huntard Bow of Epic Bragging Rights" Just saying. :P

Commentaire de justanotherdruid

Finally finished both glaives and Thori'dal this morning on my 70 twink.

Thought you guys might be interested in video of all 3 items dropping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CFy3BEo8yc

Commentaire de Kaossi

The bow dropped tonight (18/08/2010) for our guild, my hunter won the item.
It was our first Kil'jaedan kill so it was even more surprising. I'm glad to say this item will be put to its intended use instead of rotting away in a bag or in a bank slot on a character that will never use it. I only hope the other Hunters will have their Thori'dal soon as well.

If nothing else, the fact it shoots blue magical arrows is seriously cool. I prefer to sit on autoshot purely for the looks.

Cerena - 70 Night Elf Hunter

Acquired Taste - Boulderfist EU

Commentaire de Matt327

I think I lost about 10 IQ points trying to decipher that.

Commentaire de Paulosio

You wont get the Feat of strenth by trading the item around a raid (only the person who looted the item originally can get the FOS) However you will recieve the feat of strength even if you weren't the original looter of the item but had it traded to you if you xrealm with the bow (not sure if you need to equip after xrealm). I'm not sure if a race change would work in the same way.

Someone I know had the bow traded to them and of course didn't recieve the FOS at the time but when he xrealmed a couple of months later he did get the FOS.

Commentaire de MajorSonnwaitts

I broke my nose facepalming on this.

Commentaire de Antariosh

I think this is the worst and easiest legendary to obtain, because:

-It was a higher drop rate than the glaives and glaives are counted as a legendary when you obtain the 2 of them.

-They don't use arrows and as I have understand bows with arrows are better.

I'm not saying this weapon is bad, I think it's and excellent weapon, but not as good as the others Legendaries.(feel free to disagree but don't insult)

Commentaire de snipahgirl

seriously blizzard. ADD A HUNTER RESTRICTION! 47 RUNS OF THE RAID ONLY TO HAVE IT NINJAD BY SOME ROUGE THAT I DONT EVEN KNOW!

Commentaire de 7DeadlySins

farming this bow lol

Commentaire de Kalimu

Hunter weapon.

seriously.... its obviously for hunter

Commentaire de Kalimu

DUDEEEEEE.... W-T-F are you talking abouttt?
"if you are a mage with this weapon you are pretty dumb?" WTFFF? mages cant even equip bows >.>
ZOMG you fail so hard

Commentaire de DrPancake

Now, after 4.0.1, all bows do not require ammo.

But Thori'dal still brags about it.

Commentaire de Zimn

If a hunter had this bow and equipped it, and later Class changed into say...a paladin, would the achievement be on the paladin?

EDIT: Just realised how stupid this post was, please ignore it ;P was getting race changes mixed up with class change...class change pffft what a stupid idea :P

Commentaire de Grimtongue

This weapon is no longer considered best in slot for 70 hunters. Golden Bow of Quel'thalas is better.

Commentaire de Aldru

If i ever see this drop and im not RL or ML and some rogue or warrior ninja´s it im seriously going nerdrage xD ive heard of many hunters who got it ninjaed by a rogue or warrior, this is TBC end-game content and therefore Hunter item. at least for those who stay lvl 70.

Commentaire de TehFacroller2000

You should be used to it by now. Trade Chat's worse.

Commentaire de hheebo

Now that the magic arrows are obsolete, the effect should be replaced by something cooler. For example; "Equip: This bow shoots witches instead of arrows."

Commentaire de AmoTHRILL

Cataclysm ruined this once marvelous bow, with the removals of quivers from WoW. This bow is old news now, lost what made it special.

I'm sad to see it go out without a farewell.

Commentaire de monteverdi

Maybe, but it'll still look sexy on my twink rogue :)

Commentaire de Aldru

Looks good on a Blood Elf Hunter/Rogue/Warrior :)

Commentaire de Guanyin

Actually, I think the "bonus" effect is even more awesome now. Some DO care about the "old days". I would hate this to change. It's a great piece of vanity gear.

Commentaire de TehFacroller2000

T6 + Thori'dal + Complimenting melee weapon/trinkets/rings = MY LIFE IS COMPLETE!

Commentaire de keroro12

the no ammo thing is useless in cata, since u dont need ammo anymore

Commentaire de Tastyllama

Looks good on a female Blood Elf Hunter

Fixed that for ya, buddy.

Commentaire de sdi789

They should redesign this bow to give some other stats because we dont need ammo anymore... so it looks like a waste of time to go after it on the new patch...

Commentaire de Isopod

It's still awesome for BM hunters, but it's a shame that the "no arrrows" effect won't make the difference anymore. Still may come in handy for other classes tough.

Commentaire de dubplate

Now in RL!

Commentaire de Antariosh

Ive seen some pictures of new models for Halduron Brightwing in patch 4.1 including new weapon surprisingly he now has a bow that has the exact same model of Thoridal perhpaps lorewisely he will be the next owner of it?

Commentaire de ysera164

Did anyone notice that after patch 4.1
Some new effects has been added?
Now when you pull the string and before you let go the arrow
there's a white orb on your left hand.
and when you keep moving around and shoot
the orb stretch into a star tail

I apologize for my bad English
I'll try to sent some screenshots

Commentaire de nushidorei

Ninjaed this earlier, heres some quick pointers for ninjaring this beast:

* Recruit people in trade and whisper in /who, I tend to start with /who 77 and work my way up to 84, once at 85 I do /who 85 for each class one by one, this usually always fills up all the spots, if not; take a coule of 70-76s
* Never respond to loot rule questions, if you say its group loot and you ninja it; guess what? the GMs can take it from you, the silent person prevails here, keep quiet and never try to make yourself good by saying group loot or whatever.
* Before the final boss, state in raid chat that you will use master looter on the last boss and state what is reserved, I tend to do this during heavy loot rules and I pass on 3-4 items in the last few seconds, this means the chat window gets flooded and nobody usually reads what you said, but you did say it so again, the GMs cannot do anything about it.
* Keep it civil, keep it organised, keep it professional; inspire confidence in yourself so people stick around for the run, tell people to stop moving during the burn debuff, tell people to enter Kalec's portal etc. If you appear to be a smart person, people are likely to respect you more and therefore your going to get your legendary easier.
* And finally, when it does drop DO NOT say anything about rolling, simply loot it and then handle the other loot, do not make excuses; your in the right here because you covered yourself from the GMs above, if you wuss out and ask for rolls now, you will get the item taken from you!

It is not the socially acceptable solution but I'll tell you here and now, its a bloody good one for progressing!

Commentaire de saetia147

^ That's win.

Commentaire de samdc

i know a lock with this rofl

Commentaire de trollhuntard

Great Tips!

Commentaire de Caspinio95

Why does this never #$%^ing drop ?
IT NEVER DROPS
omg, Ive done it like 20 times, no drop.
Illidan 17 times, no Glaive, wtf is happenin?

Commentaire de Hawkyyy

Its a Legendary, dont expect this just to casually drop after killing him a few times, you will probably never get it.

Commentaire de Hawkyyy

Its a Legendary, dont expect this just to casually drop after killing him a few times, you will probably never get it.

Commentaire de Hurono

It took me 9 months from the first glaive drop to the second for my Rogue to have both, and I got lucky.

Be patient and they'll drop.

Commentaire de Chaserbl

great they are fixing legendary weapons 2 years after they came out or more, new animation in 4.1 gj blizzard.
p.s. same with shadowmourne model got *more shiny* blah

Commentaire de Gratze

Today as of Patch 4.1 will this bow drop from Sunwell Plateau? I see nothing mentioning a "Heroic" or hard-mode anywhere on the net (recently) and is not listed in guild achievements.
Really what im asking is if I go into Sunwell plateau and set no new difficulty will this drop?
Or must it be set to heroic? ( if it even can noone seems to know that I can find)

Commentaire de ysera164

To:Gratze
This bow still drop in patch4.1
my level.70 warrior loot this 14hours ago

this link is the battle.net of Taiwan about my character ↓

http://tw.battle.net/wow/zh/character/%E6%88%B0%E6%AD%8C/%E9%BA%A5%E7%90%B3%E7%91%9F%E6%8B%89/feed

Commentaire de aeregon

blizz should buff all legendary weapons to the maxium level. i mean legendary should always stay legendary, dont they? why dont keep them like that?

Commentaire de ysera164

That's why I let all my characters with legendary weapons at the exact level

The following links are the battle.net of Taiwan about my characters ↓

Lev.70 rougue with Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury and twin blades of Azzinorth and even Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker...
http://tw.battle.net/wow/zh/character/%e6%88%b0%e6%ad%8c/%e5%b0%8f%e4%bc%8a%e7%91%9f%e6%8b%89/advanced

Lev.70 hunter with Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury
http://tw.battle.net/wow/zh/character/%e6%88%b0%e6%ad%8c/%e8%89%be%e8%98%ad%e9%87%8c%e9%9b%85/advanced

Lev.70 warrior with Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury and Warglaive of Azzinoth main hand
http://tw.battle.net/wow/zh/character/%e6%88%b0%e6%ad%8c/%e9%ba%a5%e7%90%b3%e7%91%9f%e6%8b%89/advanced

Lev.80 death Knight with Shadowmourne
http://tw.battle.net/wow/zh/character/%e6%88%b0%e6%ad%8c/%e5%a4%a2%e4%b9%8b%e4%bc%8a%e7%91%9f%e6%8b%89/advanced

Lev.80 paladin with Shadowmourne
http://tw.battle.net/wow/zh/character/%e6%88%b0%e6%ad%8c/%e6%bc%82%e6%b3%8a%e7%9a%84%e9%9b%b2/advanced

Lev.80 priest with Val'anyr, Hammer of Ancient Kings
http://tw.battle.net/wow/zh/character/%e6%88%b0%e6%ad%8c/%e9%9b%85%e8%8e%89%e5%8f%b2%e5%8d%93%e8%8e%8e/advanced

My mage is already Lev.85....maybe I'll stay Lev.85 after I get the legandary staff....
P.S. All my Lev.70 legandary weapons are obtained after patch 3.0
And my priest obtained the Val'anyr, Hammer of Ancient Kings at patch 4.0
Death knight obtained Shadowmourne at patch 3.3 .Paladin obtained at patch 4.0

Commentaire de outplayd

This dropped for us yesterday(6/27/11). The warrior in the raid won the roll. I offered him a large sum of gold for it, but he equipped it anyway. A few minutes later he whispers me saying the he will sell it now since it is still trade-able, I agree. He gives it to me and no achievement window was popped. Upon relogging and looking at my feat of strength menu I had the achievement. My guild also got credit for it.

Upon relogging he *lost* his feat of strength and no longer has it. I still have mine.

I think we can assume that the person that has the bow will end up with the feat at the end of the day, and the person that traded it will lose the feat.

No word on if his guild retained credit or not.

Commentaire de Thanatos420

this is strange because i did a similar thing with the warglaives. I had the main hand, Some DK won the OH and traded it so i could get my achivement, i got my FoS for having the glaives, and so did the guild, Upon relogging i still have my achivement, and so does the guild.

Commentaire de Peso

Patch 1.1 - Patch 7.0.3

Talisman de l'éclat de lien
Lame-tonnerre, épée bénie du Cherchevent
Sulfuras, Main de Ragnaros
Atiesh, grand bâton du Gardien
Atiesh, grand bâton du Gardien
Atiesh, grand bâton du Gardien
Atiesh, grand bâton du Gardien
Glaive de guerre d'Azzinoth
Glaive de guerre d'Azzinoth
Thori'dal, la Fureur des étoiles
Val'anyr, le marteau des anciens rois
Deuillelombre
Courroux du dragon, le Repos de Tarecgosa
Golad, le Crépuscule des Aspects
Tiriosh, le Cauchemar des âges
Qian-Le, Courage de Niuzao
Xing-Ho, Souffle de Yu'lon
Jina-Kang, Bonté de Chi Ji
Fen-Yu, Fureur de Xuen
Gong-Lu, Force de Xuen
Qian-Ying, Robustesse de Niuzao
Thorasus, Cœur de pierre de Draenor
Nithramus, Omnivoyant
Maalus, Buveur de sang
Sanctus, Cachet des indomptables
Etheralus, Récompense éternelle

Commentaire de wowgeek123

This is by far the easiest legendary to obtain. All you need is for it to drop. Other legendaries are either crafted or a long quest chain (with the exeption of Warglaives, which have a smaller drop rate, and twice as unlikely to get).

This is definately a hunter weapon, but a warrior COULD use it too (never give this to a warrior over a hunter).

Commentaire de Humanenemy

Any other hunters going to change their bow/gun/xbow to look like this in 4.3?

Edit: Just read Blizzard stating we can NOT use legendaries for Transmogrification :<. Would've been awesome to see Thor'idal's own animation for auto-shot arrows in high-end raiding and pvp.

Commentaire de paperslug

Is this soloable as a level 85 hunter?

Commentaire de TerrorOfDeath

Correct me if I'm wrong but on the page on the official WoW site there is an image of somebody holding Hand of Ragnaros near the bottom. Assuming they wouldn't post that image unless Legendary items were able to be transmogrified as well.

Commentaire de SuddenDeath1714

with Transmogrification coming in 4.3
lvl 85s will be able to look like they are using thoridal while using their best bow

Commentaire de hannibalektr

There should be a legendary quest for each class, with a super hard, long questline filled with outrageous achiev's, and faction grinding with each end game patch to the expansion with some kind of reward like this.

For instance, here's some questlines they had specifically for hunters;
La feuille ancienne or Le drake vert/the-green-drake Seems they are now actually deleting these, shame.

I really miss class specific quests with epic/legendary rewards. No quest is more rewarding or fun to rush through and grind out.

Think of the play time Activision (vivendi), formerly blizz, whatever, would get from every person in the game from questlines like this. Geez, talk about missing the boat! And to think, you could have had a corner office with this idea!

: x Doh!

Commentaire de Apash

This bow only drops in heroic mode,where Kil'jaden rises and attacks you with his LEGS!IT'S A NEW FREAKING MECHANIC!

Commentaire de Sagann777

ive waited a mouth for my ss to get uploaded now -.-

Commentaire de Rexak

Dropped for me tonight :3 I had killed kil'jaeden 5 times in total. Feeling very lucky, though I have yet to see a Warglaive after 11 Illidan kills, or a Eye of Sulfuras after 36 Ragnaros kills.

Good luck to those farming.

Commentaire de Mesquitad

Did someone say..

Commentaire de nattbok

Transogriff

Commentaire de Ambellina

That would be this.

Commentaire de Vulkrin

Got mine last week. Was not farming for it, was just lucky. Hopefully you have a group that will default it to the hunter, or make the rules so you can do so.

Commentaire de Kosume

Yeah, it's totally a hunter weapon considering we're at 85 now.

Really? Giving this to someone based on class? That's just stupid, go pick up a green Cata bow if you need the dps, seriously. This is now just vanity gear, it shouldn't matter what class you are.

Edit: Lol at being downrated for speaking the truth. Stop being ignorant, vanity gear doesn't 'belong' to any class, especially when it gives a feat of strength.

Commentaire de Kosume

That would be this.

Sorry, no. It's the actual Hand of Ragnaros in the picture, go look at the page they mentioned if you want to see for yourself.

Blizzard said it was simply a mistake.

Commentaire de yairmorales44

if u go by doing math would take 20runs to get the bow but the real drop is random cause the first time i did molten core on my dk got the left binding for that legedary sword.

Commentaire de vithanks

Apparently he stopped playing.

Commentaire de jprich

Only hunters can use/equip ranged weapons in MoP.
If you want this and you are anything other than a hunter...better start farming runs now.
I know I am. < warrior

Commentaire de baradiel

This is my favorite bow! love it so much, if u got it... grats!

Commentaire de Elfcraig

Just dropped today (10/12/11) for my brother and I. He won it because i was on my dk. WOW was so excited never seen a legendary drop before and i just got the mount of attumen the day before what luck! Going to go try BT for the Warglavies :P
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/amanthul/Agenn/simple

Commentaire de asymuna

Still drops as of 4.3.

Ran SWP with 2 pally,priest and a druid. It of course droped for us when no one could use it.

Commentaire de Nold

So what's the going rate on this thing? Had guy/gurl offer me 4K for it (after telling me name my price.)
That was after talking junk to me during the raid for saying I hadda get up for work in the morning. It was 1:30 a.m. then.

Commentaire de anglinj

this should be a hunter only weapon -____-

Commentaire de Sorraxe

I dont know if this was mentioned before, but so far i have seen a Paladin having the Feats of Strength Thori'dal, la Fureur des étoiles
Still i dont know if this is still obtain or fixed, but in any case, i wonder why such things dosent get removed from the classes who cant ''wield it''

I believe at one point you could get the FoS w/o to actually having to equip the item. Might got changed in Cataclysm.

Check Paladin player ''Absalom'' , on US illidan/ Guild Blood Legion. Cool Achiv on for a paladin thou :)

Commentaire de QuikZ06

Still drops as of 4.3. Just dropped tonight in the run where a hunter wanted to get the Transmog bow off twins. That didnt but this did. Well worth the run!

Commentaire de Pangoria

Just won this in a guild group. Too bad it can't be transmogged. Nice looking bow and got us the guild achievement. Super easy 6 man-no tank but one healer.

Commentaire de NeinnaWR

Doing this raid in Cata took like 20 minutes of goofing around. The fight was a pushover, and I was just there on a rogue for the Sunwell achievement and maybe a little extra gold. Then the bow dropped. The 70 hunter RL freaked out, and more than half the raid (including healers and tanks) needed. I giggles to myself and said, "Sure, why not?" and needed too.

I won. I'm on a lvl 85 rogue alt and I won what my hunter would die to have. In the end, I gave it to the 70 hunter, but I secretly wished that I kept it all for myself. I hate having morals.

Edit: By the way, I had to equip it for the achievement. I don't remember seeing him get the achievement, so I don't think you can just pass it around and give everyone the achievement.

Commentaire de Tehcutlery

For hunters trying to obtain this, as BM the entire instance save Kalecgos is duoable with a blood DK.

I went on a (undergeared) prot paladin alt for Kalecgos, with a 381ilvl blood DK the rest was done as a 390ilvl pvp geared hunter with turtle/spirit beast. Turtle tank Brutallus, don't get hit by the breath on Gangrebrume, and burn Dame Sacrocingle first out of the twins. You can more or less ignore the fight mechanics for Kil'jaeden himself, he may even be soloable for hunters but thats mere speculation.

Three manning is generally simpler though.

Commentaire de Zeals

1/11 Hit 85 after 3 days of leveling from 1. Got Destroyer's End title on 1/14th and bow on my first run of Sunwell on this character on the 1/15th. Since there isn't any goblin screenshot with the bow, I'll post one up.

I don't know if this is fixed, but when multishotting as Survival you only get the blue arrow for the current target, not all targets the multishot is hitting.

Commentaire de bojan112

it has been speculated that drop chance has been increased significantly because in pandaria rogues and warriors wont be abble to carry bows, so that they can finish their achieves until then

Commentaire de Alteir

The magical glowing arrows fired by this bow occasionally appears inside the bow when they are drawn, creating a very noticeable and cool glow on your character. It also creates a brief glow trail.

Commentaire de JezzebelPop

This bow dropped tonight and my friend ended up getting it AFTER it was won by someone else, they just wanted the achievement. When traded and equipped by my friend the achi didn't ding and it didn't for me when traded to me.

Seems a shame and kind of annoying for those just wanting the achievement since this cannot be transmogged.

Commentaire de tazar

dropped twice in a row.. the 2nd time priest got it .. such a waste

Commentaire de WinningIRL

Best looking bow in game ever

Commentaire de Scathdubh

How hard will this b to get while Lvl 70 and decked out on t6 hunter set and a couple of firelands geared 85 guildmates?

Commentaire de DjMonkeyMan

I was so happy when I got this....I wanted it for a transmog but now i got a gun.....so now I need a new bow XD

Commentaire de Hagendaz1337

Got this last night 3 manning Sunwell, me (A blood dk in dps gear) a fire mage and a shadow priest. This happened to drop on our 16th kill which implies the drop rate is about at 6% which wowhead states. I paid the priest 25k for it, since I enjoy collecting legendaries. I have all of the ones I can obtain except my offhand glaive. Stick with it and it'll drop sooner or later.

Hagendaz - Argent Dawn

Commentaire de GileadiNemesis

Tamburitaca-Nemesis with hes new bow.

Commentaire de L33tFire

I'll never forget when i won this on my very first Sunwell run, not even knowing what a legendary even was.

Commentaire de DeGoudenEeuw

The amount of huntards paying no respect to this legendary and linking their Vishanka, les Crocs de la terre instead is disturbing.

I was advertising LFM Sunwell Plateau in /4 when I got a whisper from a hunter asking what kind of item level he should bring for this raid. I replied to him that it is a level 70 instance and any amount of ilvl will do provided he's 85; I then linked Thori'dal to him hoping to get him hooked on doing the run - to which the hunter proceeded to link his LFR Vishanka and say that his bow is much better. I did not feel like continuing the dialog.

Next raid lockout, it was 5:00 am, I asked in the almost silent lfg channel if anyone was willing to run through SP. Someone replied "nope". I inspected his name, it was a hunter - a different one. I asked him if he really doesn't want a legendary, and linked Thori'dal, to which he merely linked his normal Vishanka. Just to be sure, I armoried him, and he had no Kil'Jaeden kills and no associated feat of strength either.

Seriously, I don't even play a hunter, and I'm embarrassed for them.

Commentaire de ariefperkasa

i did this raid yesterday, and this AWESOME bow drop!
but.... a rogue took it.. he said he need the agi from it. he was a 70, and i am 85 Hunter.
i dunno, but i was like hey you are a rogue not a huntard..
upset? you tell me..

Commentaire de DIstevenash

Made a series of videos for hunters interested in Solo Farming this bow, as well as the Golden Bow of Quel'thalas. I would recommend at least around a 384-390 average ilvl as a few of the fights will really test your abilities as a hunter. Good Luck and have fun!

youtube.com/user/disteevnash

Commentaire de Zkortar520

What's the best Enchant for this Bow?

Commentaire de bono1

As far I know Thori'dal's translation is Fury of the Stars
Thori = Fury
Dal = Star
Thori'dal = Fury of the Stars

Commentaire de sun200473

1111111111111

Commentaire de Frizzlecrank

Totally ~~not~~ for hunters, as they ~~don't~~ wield bows and guns, ~~they use shields,two-handed dual-wielded swords, offhands, but wait, there's more!~~ and it's even a pretty much epic model for a~~ny bow-using class~~ hunter.

Commentaire de Ellinna

Has a pretty high drop rate, 6%. I was lucky enough to see it drop today and watching as two hunters were eager to win it for themselves.

Commentaire de Mormolyce

For some bizarre reason Thori'dal is getting a significant damage buff in MoP, up to 54 AGI 83 STA, 51 crit and 54 haste. Latest damage buff ever?

Commentaire de taggme

THIS JUST IN.... Blizzard makes legendary weapon... legendary, two expansions too late!

Commentaire de ironskillet

well with a new expansion stats have new meanings, perhaps they are updating its values to keep it the same? no idea just guessing lol

Commentaire de baconseed

This weapon used to be very unique a few years ago as it didn't require ammo.

Commentaire de Slylady

As of Mists of Pandaria, This items stats have been greatly increased.
New Stats http://www.wowdb.com/items/34334-thoridal-the-stars-fury#15972-15983

Commentaire de IhaveNoLife

This item just dropped for me. On a warlock. With nobody else except my death knight I used to kill M'uru. I won it with a roll of 99.
...
I know when I'm being mocked.

Commentaire de Terrassen

The old, real stats before Cataclysm arrived:

Thori'dal, la Fureur des étoiles
Binds when picked up
Unique
Ranged------------------------------------------------- Bow
355 - 524 Damage---------------------------Speed 2.70
(162.8 damage per second)
+17 Agility
Durability 145 / 145
Requires Level 70
Item Level 164
Equip: Increases your critical strike by 16.
Equip: Increases your attack power by 34.
Equip: Increases your armor penetration rating by 17.
Equip: Thori'dal generates magical arrows when the
bow string is drawn. Does not use ammo.

Commentaire de damekage

As of patch 5.0 this weapon can no longer be equipped by Warriors or Rogues this is due to the fact that proficiency with bows has been removed from both classes.

Which means it is a hunter only legendary as of this change.

Edited for explanation as to why it is no longer able to be equipped.

Commentaire de FelixTheGreat

Man,I need to start leveling and buy WoW!

Commentaire de Androncius

As of today I have finished MSV (LFR) in all 70 gear including this bow :D

Commentaire de Xeruvim

the raid is solable at 90 for a hunter, and if doesn't what is the min number of player that needs?

Commentaire de Mondoblasto

Somewhere in the bowels of Blizzard Headquarters, the Item Development department had a meeting, back in the days of yore (or 2006-2007, if you prefer...)

Blizz Item Developer One: Okay, we've finished Warglaives of Azzinoth, they're one-handed swords that are dual-wielded, with Agi, Stam and Hit Rating, so obviously they're only gonna be for warriors and rogues.

Blizz Item Developer Two: But wait, what about hunters?

Blizz Item Developer One: ...What?

Blizz Item Developer Two: Well, those are excellent stats for hunters. They use Agi, everyone needs Stam, and they're big on Hit Rating. Plus they can dual-wield one-hand swords. They're gonna want to roll on them too, you know.

Blizz Item Developer One: ...Oh, right. Well, we can just class-exclude them, so problem solved.

Blizz Item Developer Two: But what about that new bow that's being worked on? Um, "Thorny Dal", or whatever-it's-called?

Blizz Item Developer One: What about it?

Blizz Item Developer Two: That one's not being class-excluded from all other classes other than hunters...

Blizz Item Developer One: Yeah, so?

Blizz Item Developer Two: Well, warriors and rogues can use ranged weapons too, so they'll be able to roll on the bow if it drops. So that means they can use the swords and the legendary bow at the same time, while hunters can't use swords that are good for them, and their legendary can be used by the two classes that are not excluded from the swords? Someone's going to figure that out eventually...

Blizz Item Developer Three: (to Dev 2) That's a good point. (to Dev 1) He's/She's right, wouldn't that be a tad unfair?

Blizz Item Developer One: Well, sucks to be them. If they want the swords too, they'll just have to re-roll. /shrug

Commentaire de Yogthsothoth

just got this today..im a warrior

i look pretty rp in town with this and cursed vision though :D

Commentaire de killazszsz

So, was doing SP out of boredom and Transmog gear when All of a sudden, THORIDAL!..... on my DK.... -.- Yay RNG

Commentaire de mcwood

Hi, Im a Warrior and Ive been so blessed as to have gotten this bow on my 2nd recent solo run. But Im not here to brag, Im kind of sad really. Oh SURE, I can equip it and get an achievement and that's great but... ever since they removed the Shoot ability I cant actually FIRE the bow. All the anticipation, hearthing to Shrine running out to a test dummy right clicking... only to just stand there with my (Undead) claws at the ready. Oh I'm sorry, your character no longer has the mental capacity to ever pull the string back and fire it. Its DEPRESSING... my moment to finally just look at my own character and revel in my dumb luck... and I cant even look at the animations.

Commentaire de dsuhr14

I asked my friend to help me do Sunwell for my first time trying to get the golden bow of quel'thalas for transmog it did not drop as a joke I said hey we have like a 5% chance Kil'jaedan drops thori'dal then we both had a nice laugh knowing it would not happen. Funny thing is it dropped and I have been running black temple every week for the past 2 months trying to get Black Bow for transmog and the legendary bow dropped before it. Blizzard really does not want me to have a cool transmog yet they would like me to have a legendary but I am not complaining.

Commentaire de Donaran

The legendary bow ist no longer obtainable for classes like warriors and rogues due to changes of the weapon wealding abilites! Too sad, had been farming for so long!

Commentaire de Romire

Seems this bow is dropping heavily latley

Commentaire de Kalsam

I meant to post this back during Dragon Soul time, but forgot until now when I came here to find the Item ID for something.

Anyhow!
The achievement is only received when you both loot AND equip it. Meaning you won't get the achievement if someone trades it to you.

I hadn't known this when some friends and I ran, and a shaman rolled on it for a chuckle. He traded it to me, thinking I'd get the achievement anyway. Nada. I equipped it and everything, feeling sad that I'd still have to run SWP for the ach.

BUT
Later on down the road (About 4-5months later), I zoned into Dragon Soul to do an alt run on my hunter, and decided to use the bow for fun. BOOM, achievement appeared to everyone's astonishment.
I don't know what bug caused it, if any. But if anyone's had the same thing happen, try doing that. I hope you'll be as lucky and be awarded the achievement.

My hunter with bow: Lyrinana - Arthas US (I try to always log out with it on)

Commentaire de JestrickJ

Got it on my 21st run, so don't give up hope guys this one isn't bad just put the dedication in ( having a few characters that can farm it doesn't hurt). This puts me up to five legendaries... Come here Val'anyr.

Commentaire de tonydizzle

If Blizz ever allows transmog to legendaries, Northrend Frozen Mail (Recolor) seems to match pretty well with the gold and the glowing blue dots.

Commentaire de Romire

Before you downvote my comment read the tale :)

I have been farming Sunwell since wrath came along.

Me and my hunter friend have always gone together and farmed the place in the hopes of a legendary drop that we could one day own.

Week after week, month after month, it never dropped, but we were determined to get it.

The day before christmas we go and run, and it drops, it happened to be her birthday she askes me on vent, "Do you mind if i can have it? it would make a great present for me!" Her family are wow nuts and their watching her on her screen seeing it droped

I said sure, why not, Happy Birthday and Merry Xmas, she promised to keep coming with me as always.

Week after week, month after month for the next 2 years it never drops again Untill now!

Roughly 45 mins ago 6/6/13 i had asked if she wanted to come again, but she had raid duties to attened to, but wished me luck.

So me and a guildy go to clear the place, She wispers me " Did it drop?" We're on KJ i replied

Sure enough it drops, an im linking her the achivement and bow all excitedly.

She replies back " Well congrats, I guess after 3 years of farming together cept for this night, Lady lucky decided to be kind to you, Congratz"

Now if only it was moggable!

https://twitter.com/RomireVids/status/342599309482672128/photo/1

Commentaire de numberonehunter

This dropped for me and i almost threw up from excitement, but then my guild leader rolled need and got it and he wouldn't give it to me even though i was the only hunter. I left the guild 10 seconds after that. Don't be a troll and take this when you can't equip it. That's just being a @#$%.

Commentaire de JadeGryphon

I'll probably be downrated for "QQ'ing" but...I've only seen this drop once....and it was during a Sunwell Raid on a "Drunk Black Temple" night in the guild I was in, which is, the entire guild gets smashed while doing old raids...but I don't drink, so me and a few others were sober. Anyway, I need'ed on it...then suddenly out of nowhere, the guild leader goes, "Hey, let's all need on it and give it to the hunter of the guild!" Everyone enebriated all rolled need on it...and gave it to some other hunter who quit wow the very next day. I was not thrilled at all and even briefly debated quitting the guild, but out of respect and honor of my friends, I stayed. Thankfully, that guild is now dead, and we moved servers on top of that. Here's hoping it drops again someday!

Commentaire de Chromite

got thoridal after 1 sunwell clear: http://i.imgur.com/Gs6K2C9.jpg

also got both glaives after 8 illidan kills: http://i.imgur.com/DL2QGd2.jpg

and eye dropped after 8 rag kills: http://i.imgur.com/To8BU7V.jpg

Commentaire de Furydeath

Just got this...on my mage well least I can vendor it for 18g I should make a video wish I could DE it.

Commentaire de Natsumii

Got this bow after half a year worth of Sunwell Run, nice effects. Do not call urself a hunter if u did not wield the only Legendary Bow available in-game for once...

Commentaire de deconex

Got on second run .. :) lucky

Commentaire de themunge

This will surely get downrated but gonna post anyway. My hunter recently hit 500 ilvl so decided to see if Sunwell was soloable. It was and the bow dropped. Very nice.

Previously done about 3-4 runs on hunter with groups where it hadn't dropped so it's not as lucky as it seems.

Commentaire de MerricMaker

As of patch 5.3 it takes like fifteen minutes to solo Sunwell. I've been doing that since longer than Sunwell was progression content and still don't have the bow.

I'm sure it's still on the loot table, but sheesh is it ever a low drop rate.

Commentaire de Nikolite

I just Sunwell for 1st time only for an xmog run and got this drop :D I got both bows in one run!

Commentaire de wowkidz33

I got this bow on the first run at 70

Commentaire de xkrissi

The mini heartattack you get when this drops on your first run.. :^). But the sadness when you're a dk :/

Commentaire de Girby2K13

Guaranteed drop? 28 runs and counting.

Commentaire de DreamNinja

First legendary I have gotten. First run on this raid as well. Woohoo.

Commentaire de bluecoat7

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This dropped for me and i almost threw up from excitement, but then my guild leader rolled need and got it and he wouldn't give it to me even though i was the only hunter. I left the guild 10 seconds after that. Don't be a troll and take this when you can't equip it. That's just being a @#$%.

To be fair hunters have been rolling on my rogue daggers and 2h weapons for 3 xpac....so karma. Maybe not you directly but hunters in general.

Commentaire de Vadel

Sometimes Lady Luck will flip you the finger and tell you to sit on it and rotate... other times she gives you Arc doré de Quel'Thalas and Thori'dal, la Fureur des étoiles on your first run through on your hunter the first time you run it :)

probably deserved that...

Commentaire de hordepalyswin

Finally got this bow last night after about a month of farming for it and the Golden Bow of Quel'thalas. both bows dropped in one instance shat a brick indeed! was not about to let this beautiful bow get robbed by some $%^&*!@ so after many many tries i got soloing the instance down pat just so i could get it. wanted it back in BC but sadly my hunter wasn't geared enough and my main was pally..so the moment i could do this place on my own i knew i'd have it.

Commentaire de DRBlanton89

I decided to run this raid once again last night with a buddy of mine. I've run this place so many times ever since early Wrath, and up until last night I've only seen this bow drop ONCE in the years I've been playing WoW.

So I went in not expecting it to drop or anything, I didn't even hope it would. I guess the timing was right, or karma loved me.... I had taken my hunter which was the best part (I've run this on my warrior, paladin, warlock and death knight before), and the moment I saw it in the loot window, my jaw hit the floor!

It was a good thing my buddy was a shaman! He said "all you buddy :D"

So my advice to anyone else after this baby, just go in with it in your mind that you don't expect or hope it'll drop. I'm a very laid-back player, and usually just go along with friends with what ever they want to do. When my buddy asked if I wanted to run Sunwell for some transmogs, the bow hadn't even entered my mind.

That's five and a half years I've been playing WoW now (started in the Summer of '08), and only seen this baby drop twice now! (out of a couple dozen times I've run this raid)

Commentaire de Chrii

Imo all legendarys should work like a heirloom 1-90, since its so hard to obtain, with exception of cloak. Maybe that one unlocks after WOD launches so it can be sent to other toons.

Legendary cloak
Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest
Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros
Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker
Warglaive of Azzinoth & Warglaive of Azzinoth
Shadowmourne
Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury
Val'anyr, Hammer of Ancient Kings

Discuss, what do you think?

I think it would be awsome to be able to use my Thunderfury 1-90(100)

Commentaire de icefr05t

Just leave legendaries as non-transmoggable

OR

I reckon legendaries should only be allowed to be transmogged IF and only if you earned it/ picked it up when it was relevant to your level (i.e. a 70 hunter picking the bow up during TBC with a group of 24 other 70s). That means you earned the legendary the normal way and not having someone help you kill the boss, solo it cause you're 20 levels higher, etc. It should also be earned when the expansion was relevant. Something like how the Zul' Aman bear mount was removed. (Although I think it's back.)

And if they want to transmog it, it should only be applicable to epic (purple) weapons in the content. (it's just silly to transmog a green/blue bow to look legendary).

This would mean that ONLY people who played during TBC era will be able to transmog the bow. I think this would be the ideal transmog law for legendaries. Having played this game for years, I think this would benefit the people who actually spent time to read up the fight, defeat the crazy boss and roll for it without having it ninja-ed (back when rolling for it was done by doing /roll).

As a hunter, it's already painful to see people running around wielding the glaives WHEN you know they solo-ed Illidan. It really diminishes the reward for putting the time and effort to earning it.

Commentaire de bobalmity36

Dropped on my first solo run.
When I tried to loot, this message came up: "Inventory is full."
Oh well, I'll get it another time

Commentaire de Zylix

Heya :)
Any sets That goes with this beauty? :-) Plz xD

Commentaire de Merlias

This dropped on my Paladin during my first ever run through The Sunwell (solo-run), i was only after the achievement for killing Kil'Jaeden. I was so happy this dropped bu then unworldly annoyed when i found out i didnt get the Achievement for obtaining it and then finding out i couldn't send it too my hunter.....now it's just sat rotting in the bank because i can't do a single thing with it =/

Commentaire de Volleynova

When Thoridal first arrived on the scene, there was no weapon like it. It was the first hunter weapon to not consume ammunition, making it ridiculously valuable for any hunter. Imagine, going to raids and doing content without having to spend massive amounts of gold refilling your quiver.

Blizzard eventually removed ammo consuming completely, a move many hunters still rejoice about and we love our extra bag slot to this day.

Commentaire de alvuh

I just got this beauty today on my blood elf hunter. killed kil'jaeden every week for the past 11 months. wasn't fun but she's mine now and I love her!

Commentaire de Nocked

Legendary, yet not even 1/10th as epic as Rhok'delar, arc long des Gardiens anciens

One is earned. The other just falls in your lap by chance. I wish each class still had an epic quest for a class item in each expansion. The quest for Rhok will never be forgotten. One of the highlights of all my years of gaming.

Commentaire de Volleynova

Ahhh, so after 1.5 years of farming every week for it, and 6 years of raiding Sunwell overall, my bow drops today and it is mine. Glorious victory. My hunter is now complete and it feels great.

This is a confirmation to all hunters out there still trying to get this bow, it still drops and no, you don't need to kill Kalecgos first.

Commentaire de sminktron

Okay, very strange thing happened in the last 24 hours. On my hunter, I did Molten Core for the first time and both bindings dropped for me, and I got Lame-tonnerre, épée bénie du Cherchevent in maybe 60 minutes worth of work. So I decide today to give the Sunwell a go for the first time on that same toon, my hunter. BOOM Thori'dal, la Fureur des étoiles drops. I feel that I am very lucky. So in an effort to make this informative this item still drops, so for the unlucky folks who are hunting for this, keep at it, it still drops.

Commentaire de Laran

Ran SP for the first time (strange actually) in my almost 4 years of playing WoW... well, this dropped! Every hunter in the guild hates me!

Commentaire de DarkDestroyer

So I solo'd Sunwell for the first time on my paladin, defeated Kil'jaden got the completion achievement, look at the drops, and to my surprise, both the bow AND Golden Staff of the Sin'dorei dropped. I was mad that I couldn't equip either of them, but whatever. The bow shall forever remain in my bank as a symbol of my luck.

Anyway, it appears that you don't even need to equip it anymore for the guild achievement. As soon as I picked it up, I earned the achievement. So for those guilds who are still missing this weapon for the meta achievement, fear not! Any class can go and get it, and simply pick it up.

Unless it just bugged for me.

Either way, this game just likes to screw with you.

Commentaire de SpectraKitty

I JUST got this bow today 7/ 01 / 2014 :D it's smexy looking! :D Must've taken blizzard a long time to design that bow

Commentaire de ZelonL

This is a Joke.... i got it in my first run ever to this place with a DK >_< if i least could transmog the heirloom bow with it...

Commentaire de Neutralis

I feel that legendary weapons should scale with you and not just be for looks anymore.

Also I think this was meant to go along with the Rift Stalker outfit.

Commentaire de ucplayer

I just got this! And it was my 3º kill!
Usually I'm not that lucky...today I was for a change.
Still need Golden Bow tho.

Commentaire de zarinda

I must be the unluckiest person playing wow, i have beeing killing kiljaden for several weeks with 2 hunters and no thori'dal. So grats you all that get it in 1- 3 times running sunwell.

Commentaire de scofdrem

At last, after 5 years of continuous farm, I have seen the Thori for the second time and looted it. No more SWP for me =)

Commentaire de saulwhite

When you try to put the Thori'dal, la Fureur des étoiles in the void storage, you get the error: "You cannot deposit unique items in the void storage". What's up with that? Is it too awesome for the void storage?

Commentaire de Sniperdotcom

I am about tired of farming for legendaries. I have been farming for years now each week for each of the old school legendaries on various character with no luck at all. Been playing since vanilla. I have no luck at all I guess.

Commentaire de lycanhero7

According to canon the current wielder of Thori'dal is Halduron Brightwing

Commentaire de Dramoth

Well... I decided to take my mage for a run through the Sunwell last night. Just for the hell of things and to see what I can get (collecting mats for one of my other enchanting toons)... and after killing Kil'jaeden I wander over to loot his rotting corpse. Not really paying attention, I notice a flash of orange flash past.

Yes... it was Thori'dal dropping on my freaking mage.

My hunter is now over in the corner crying his eyes out because I didnt think to take him along for the run instead of the mage.

Needless to say, I am a touch disappointed now. Stoked to have a legendary item drop for me... pissed off that it was on the wrong toon.

Commentaire de alber

you cannot transmogrify or use the appearance of a legendary item.

Commentaire de Arkamedis

Got him today with my hunter after about 10 runs :D

Commentaire de Volleynova

I absolutely love my bow, but I am dying for a transmog.

Commentaire de delfuras

Went first time sunwell at my hunter today - and it dropped :D waiting for transmog =(

Commentaire de Pingouin7

Twice now has the second to last boss on Sunwell Plateau glitched up on me and the entrance + exit to the boss' room remained closed, even after I defeated the boss.
Does anybody know what causes that glitch to happen? Or if it even happened to anyone else? Because this prevents you from reaching Kil'Jaeden at all until the next weekly reset, and the drop rate on this bow is already low enough.

Commentaire de Lancethedruid96

I got this the first time i ran sunwell...on my paladin

Commentaire de Lodenuri

Just got this bow after about 12 runs. Super awesome, now hopefully Blizz will allow transmogs of the legendaries at some point.

Commentaire de Czinferal

I'm currently using this bow on my lvl 70 hunter for gits and shiggles, there is speculation that Arc doré de Quel'Thalas is marginally better, but I prefer the haste on Thori'dal. I've found a decent transmog set that to me compliments the feel of a high elf ranger-general who might use a bow similar in design. The set uses with Le mantelet du soigne-vague as shoulders and Couvre-œil du malveillant as a helm. This set would easily compliment Arc doré de Quel'Thalas at lvl 100 for full transmog purposes and you can use whatever cloak/tabard you feel befitting of it. I've chosen Tabard du Soleil brisé, but Tabard des flammes estivales / Tabard des cieux estivaux both work well with this set as well. The visual look of the auto-shots firing from this beauty are still tons of fun to view when blowing up regular BC dungeons with this thing.

Commentaire de avatarofshadow

Dear diary,

Today, I got my first legendary item, ever. I was farming for the new 6.1 pets, and I got this really cool bow. On my druid. Right after my hunter finished doing the same raid.

At least my one-person guild got 20 achievement points out of it, I guess.

Commentaire de xdnxsavage

got this bow on my 88 hunter yesterday on my second run through. was disappointed to find out you cant use it as a trnsmog.

Commentaire de favrebites

oops

Commentaire de Vuoripeikko

Hunter weapon.

Commentaire de saram0nstr

Dropped on Exodar today at 2:50 in case anyone keeps up with it!

Commentaire de Frankyzappa

I'm surprised I haven't seen more posts about this for Timewalking. Going to be fun shooting pretty arrows again for those dungeons.

Commentaire de Argonized

I got this beauty last week, first try. This week I decided to run Sunwell again for the shield, glad I got it! - But thats not all. Just dropped another Bow today. Well, some days you're just way too lucky. Can't loot it though, since I already have it. :D

http://i.imgur.com/sFfBMbZ.jpg

Unfortunatly I can't post a screenshot, since I just created an account here :(

Commentaire de Lerxos

I went to sunwell to get the new pets...suddendly, it dropped this bow. I didn't even knew that this legendary existed :D

I was happy...but I'm also a shaman...
Now it's going to decay in my bag. :/

Commentaire de ricangsxrdude

After about 100+ runs, this wonderful legendary bow drops for my Hunter. I remember seeing it ages ago when it was current, and another hunter grabbing it. I'm glad I don't have to go to Sunwell Plateau ever again.

Commentaire de HyruleZelda

For timewalking this is actually favourable for both Burning Crusade and Wrath dungeons since the Wrath dungeons scale items down to 160 and this item is 164, oddly enough the damage per second apparently goes up when it scales down for wrath for some reason.

Commentaire de RegaliaX

Can anyone please confirm if this bow really has an extra "oomph" in Timewalking BC dungeons? There are legendary items that add special effects to the wielder in Timewalking (like Shadowmourne), but Thori'dal's effect was to ignore ammunition, which no longer exists.

Is it worth taking to Timewalking dungeons for damage and effects? Or just to "show it off" (as if no one else has it already).

I've compared damage roughly with the information given in the character pane, and when I equip Thori'dal, I deal less damage with it than with a "downgraded" bow from WoD.

Commentaire de Agorphia

This bow gets squished to item level 95 in Burning Crusade Timewalking Dungeons.
I don't know why this is the case, but it's frustrating since it makes this bow useless in Timewalking dungeons. Just another pretty legendary to take up bank space. /sigh

Commentaire de Dvaashie

For any achievment farmers wondering rogues can still get the achievment for the weapon, even though they can no longer use it. Just equip it and the achiev is yours.

Commentaire de 564043

I got this on my paladin :(

Commentaire de delindsay

I have a hard time believing that this bow has a 7% drop rate. I've farmed on my Hunter for this bow since TBC was current (granted it was the very, very end of TBC) and have never seen it drop, not even once.

Commentaire de StardustRain

Strange thing with this is that i wasn't really going for it. I was just there doing the raid for the 10th time and it dropped. Then after a month i did the raid again and it dropped again! Is this normal? (Petty we cannot transmog legendary items)

Commentaire de variien98

Got it today on my first try with my boosted hunter. Nice beginning.
Edit: Dropped again on pet run.
Edit2: Dropped again.

Commentaire de Siyurka

Thori'dal the Stars' Fury, in 2016 w/ the new character models. And more sharper and crisp gear :p

Commentaire de 564043

I got this the first time I ran sunwell. Too bad i'm a ret pally :(

Commentaire de Cinderhella

Never dropping for me :(

Commentaire de dornk

Is this weapon permanent because its legendary and its rare so I might want it to be permanent

Commentaire de Guildmaster

Scales lower than 660 blue weapons in Timewalking BC. :(

Commentaire de naziar99

Droped for me last night on my first attempt. Maybe the legion pre-patch has effected its drop rate.

Commentaire de Richmond79

It says this is not transmoggable :(

Commentaire de CarltonJ1987

Just Dropped after Kill x16 on my Rogue.

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Thori'dal, la Fureur des étoiles

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À distance	Arc

Dégâts : 84 - 157	Vitesse 2.70

(44.70 dégâts par seconde)
+21 Agilité
+32 Endurance
Augmente votre score de coup critique de +20. (0.06% @ L110)
Augmente votre score de hâte de +21. (0.06% @ L110)
Durabilité 145 / 145

Équipé : Thori'dal génère des flèches magiques quand la corde de l'arc est tirée.
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