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Commentaire de 140579

Any sort of information on how hard it will be for Enchanters to get their hands on this?

Commentaire de 181013

This, along with many other high end enchanting recipes, can be bought from Vanessa Sellers in Dalaran. They can be bought with dream shards which are the new superior level enchanting mats - Similar to large prismatic shards in the burning crusade.

Commentaire de 109867

The "glow" effect is the same as on Unholy Weapon, i.e. small green skulls flying around the weapon.

Commentaire de 253498

Anyone got any info on what this "painful curse" is?

Commentaire de 151126

Has a 45 second internal cooldown, making it WORSE to use for a caster than Mighty Spellpower

Commentaire de Vitank

Any DK out there have tried this enchant yet?

What spells does it lands off (Icy Touch, Blood boil, Death Coil, Strangulate, Death and Decay) ?
Would this be spread by DK's Pestilence?
If so, does it refresh the duration?
Would this count as "extra" disease on the mob to calculate our strikes?
Is it affected by "Hysteria"?

I'm asking because a similar quest reward item, "Thunder Capacitor" does work with those abilities. Would be interesting to see if it can be chain and spread to all AOE target and kept up by Pestilence.

Thank you.

Commentaire de Gunk

Black Magic
209 to 231 Shadow damage every 3 sec.

Ticks for 15 seconds.

Commentaire de 39766

This enchant is handy as in increasing your DPS, But if you are a high-end raider in a good group, this enchant is frowned upon.

as gunk said:

209-231 Shadow Damage

Ticks for 15 seconds.

I am a moonkin myself, and i would go for 63 spell power enchant, because you benefit alot more from it.

Commentaire de 179709

Here is my question about this enchant: Is it effected by spellpower (or even by just shadow damage modifiers)? Because if it is, this would be the best enchant for Spriests/warlocks.

Commentaire de 256454

Edit: This enchant no longer procs a DoT but instead procs haste; (removed DoT-related theorycrafting).
Edit: Updated information, clarity, theorycrafting.

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Edit: props to Blizzard for making the mats on "Black Magic" read "6 6 6".

Commentaire de 220446

Curious - Anyone know if this enchant works with talents such as
Shadow Embrace or Imp Shadow Bolt ?
Or Curse of Elements and any other similar debuffs?
It seems to be a Warlock or Shadow Priest enchant.

Commentaire de 310299

I do not participate in raids as much and didn't care about a long term dps difference when I enchanted this on my weapon. I was just curious to see how it worked in pvp.
If you are wanting to get the top burst damage, pop your trinket, orc blood fury and nuke away. I can tell you this is the most burst you can get in the game. As for a long term fight lasting more than 15 seconds, it is not the best damage over time. 63 or even 50 spell power takes the cake there. But in bgs and wg this debuff comes on when im attack vehicles or turrets, which is cool since they immune to curses and siphon life. When I get a new weapon, I am going to get black magic on it again. One problem: it ruins the quality control you get in pvp with the succubus pet, as it breaks seduce.

Commentaire de 320222

this enchant when it procs, does it have a chance to proc Molten Core for warlocks? only thing i wanna know before i spend up

Commentaire de 322050

Just finished talking to a GM about this enchant for Prot Pallies. It is currently being investigated since they are getting numerous complaints that it's not inflicting the curse with our damaging spells. So no mat/gold refund for me since they don't know what's going on with it. So SAVE your gold and mats until it's been fixed...

Commentaire de 376282

Has anyone tried dual wielding this on a pvp enhancement shammy? do the dots stack, and proc independently? Could be good as a strong front loaded burst if they do.

Tested 5-29-09, will not stack with itself if dual wielded, does not seem to proc independently, and does not seem to refresh itself with further casts.

Commentaire de 379954

Casterweaponswapper please! Just as spellsurge was overlooked by so many people in BC, this is too. Think about it...proc, swap, 45 sec swap, rinse repeat. Just need to change a bit of script on a great mod.

Commentaire de 376830

Confirmed today that this enchant is *not* intended to work with Paladin Protection Spells:

My Inquiry:

The Black Magic Enchant, which is described as having a chance to inflict a curse after my damaging spells, seems to only work on Exorcism, and oddly, my explosives (Saronite Bomb and Global Thermal Sapper Charge both tested and Black Magic triggered after both). It is my understanding that most of my Protection abilities are counted as "damaging spells" and would like to know why Exorcism is the only one that actually triggers Black Magic, and whether this is intended, or will be fixed someday.

GM Response:

The majority of protection abilities are not classified as spells, but rather as attacks. As such, most of them will not trigger the enchantment's effect. This is working as intended, and we apologize for any confusion.

I tested on Judgements, Hand of Reckoning, Shield of Righteousness, Hammer of the Righteous, Avenger's Shield, and Exorcism. Unfortunately, Exorcism was the only ability to trigger Black Magic. I would assume that Holy Shock would also trigger it, but I am not dual specced as Holy so I was unable to test.

Interestingly, it does proc very reliably on Explosives, so isn't entirely useless (however far from the ideal weapon enchant) for a Protection Paladin if you're also an Engineer. Otherwise, though, it's essentially useless.

Commentaire de Kirbymorph

For a pvp lvl 60 twink, how good is this compared to 63 sp (or the staff one if I used a staff)? Aret here scaling problems with spellpower at lower levels I should be aware of that would make this enchant good for dps or should I just go for teh extra sp up front?

Commentaire de 434554

i was just wondering, as a aff lock how does it stack with Huant, Shadow Embrace and CoE? with the additional shadow damage from these how much more appealing would it be? If it is gaining an additional 38% damage from other procs how much damage could it potentially put out? If so then would it possibly be better for an aff lock for raid boss situations?

Commentaire de Annais

Enchant Weapon - Black Magic: This enchantment can now be triggered by some spells it did not previously work with, including Curse of Agony, Blizzard, and Typhoon.

Commentaire de colt45

Patch 3.3.0 PTR
Enchanting

* Black Magic: This enchantment now sometimes increases haste rating for the caster rather than inflicting the caster's target with a damage-over-time effect. It is also now triggered by landing any harmful spell rather than inflicting damage with a spell.

Commentaire de 65992

The proc looks to be about the same as the Berzerking but with 250 haste for 10 or 15 seconds instead of 400 AP.

If it does last 15 seconds in 3.3, then it may be a unique choice for Enhancement Shaman considering we have FT in our off-hand and every other time my GCD / CDs are up, I will usually shock. Pile on top of that LB and the occasional flame shock and it may yet proc often enough to be useful?

I mean, figure a double proc of black magic and a haste pot would gain you about the same haste as BL would for less time...it may be something to sim-out on rawr when this change is put into it.

Commentaire de Ragnard

EDIT: I have updated calculations assuming 35 secs ICD. If this is true, the enchant really rocks for mages and warlocks.

Below you will find comparison between +63 sp enchant and Black Magic(3.3) enchant for various classes and builds.

I assumed, that:
- Black Magic gives 250 haste,
- lasts 10 secs,
- its internal CD equals 35 secs.

Column A and B denote dps increase from 1 spell power and 1 haste rating (source: DPS scale factors for tier 9 at http://code.google.com/p/simulationcraft/wiki/SampleOutputT9 ).
Column C denotes dps increase for +63 sp enchant; formula: 63*A
Column D denoted dps increase for new Black Magic enchant: formula: 250*10/35*B

I made a lot of assumptions here.
Please be gentle.

Profile SP(A) Haste(B) sup.sp(C) black magic(D)
Druid_T9_58_00_13 1.7360 1.2687 109.37 90.62
Druid_T9_58_00_13_2T8_2T9 1.7960 1.1317 113.15 80.84
Mage_T9_53_18_00 1.7533 2.0820 110.46 148.71
Mage_T9_57_03_11 1.8406 2.1107 115.96 150.76
Mage_T9_00_53_18 1.8579 1.8022 117.05 128.73
Mage_T9_20_51_00 1.8953 2.2124 119.40 158.03
Mage_T9_18_00_53 1.5467 1.7132 97.44 122.37
Paladin_T9_05_11_55 0.2755 1.2386 17.36 88.47
Priest_T9_13_00_58_258 1.6226 1.1469 102.22 81.92
Priest_T9_13_00_58_258_SWD 1.6079 1.3431 101.30 95.94
Shaman_T9_57_14_00_258 1.8192 1.0125 114.61 72.32
Shaman_T9_57_14_00_258_ToW 1.6782 0.9286 105.73 66.33
Shaman_T9_16_55_00_258 0.8318 1.6844 52.40 120.31
Shaman_T9_20_51_00_258 0.8566 1.7122 53.97 122.30
Warlock_T9_53_00_18 1.6345 1.3752 102.97 98.23
Warlock_T9_53_00_18_DG 1.6605 1.3508 104.61 96.49
Warlock_T9_00_40_31 1.3419 1.4713 84.54 105.09
Warlock_T9_00_41_30 1.3185 1.5200 83.07 108.57
Warlock_T9_00_56_15 1.4130 1.3851 89.02 98.94
Warlock_T9_03_52_16 1.3112 1.2605 82.61 90.04
Warlock_T9_00_13_58 1.5924 1.4786 100.32 105.61
Warlock_T9_03_13_55 1.5513 1.2647 97.73 90.34

Commentaire de Muoumon

All above comments are now (Patch 3.3) obsolete.
This enchant now gives +250 Haste rating.

Let the theorycrafting begin...I am looking at you Enh shamys.

MM

Commentaire de 495038

Comments above are talking about the 3.3 mechanics already.

But I admit it's still confusing... Some live testing anyone ? is it 10 or 15 seconds long ? 35 or 45 seconds ICD ?

Commentaire de 124642

- 35 Sec cooldown on 3.3 live servers, starting when the effect is applied (Cooldown rdy 25 Seconds after it expires).
- Increases haste by 250 for 10 seconds.
- Proc chance somewhere around 50%, maybe a bit lower.
- Does not seem to be triggered of spell ticks only on the initial cast.
- If you switch weapons while the buff is up, it will stay. Switching will cause a Global CD

Therefore, you could enchant one weapon with Black Magic and the other with sup. spellpower and switch as soon as the cooldown is finished. I am simply not smart enough to do the math here, but if anyone feels so inclined...

Commentaire de 272572

Another note is rogue poisons apparently changed to be considered 'harmful spells' instead of 'physical enchants' as far as i know based on observations, so this is now usable by rogues: Factors listed below.

1: Enchant may be limited explicitly to the unique id of the in game item (itself) like berserking and mongoose enchants (meaning you might be able to weapon swap and get multiple buffs up at the same time). --Have not confirmed this myself, accidentally deleted/sold my extra weapon that had this enchant >.<

2: appears to have the old 50% proc rate afaik based on observations.

3: I personally had the proc re-proc directly after my distract cooldown finished (which is 30 seconds), so i suspect that the proc has a 30 second ICD (not REALLY perfectly confirmed since i might have had latency/lag when it occured, but much nicer than the old 45 second ICD).

--unrelated notes regarding poison observations-

First before someone asks, why in hells name does a rogue have this enchant?, frankly because i used to swap it in for pyro-rocket/lightning generator/bomb/black magic combo (used to proc offa engineering toys, but never poisons).

Secondly, as i noted above, poisons never used to proc this enchant in either the old or new format prior to what i verified to be 3.2.2 (not sure when it changed since i never tested it every patch). The other thing that i notice that does correlate with this is that my sap->garrote combo procs poisons on garrote, which it never used to do prior to some patch (don't know which since i took a multi-month break but it was 3.x) - IE: Wound poison on main hand breaks my sap, instead of waiting 3 seconds for a tick to break it. As such Rogue poisons are apparently considered 'harmful spells', my guess is it was a tweak for dk's or some other patch note I missed.

edit: if someone knows related said patch notes regarding poison change, or any details please reply to me, if you are so bored to be reading the rest of this, crazy thai/japanese video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kMmJreC6ME

Commentaire de 65992

250 Haste for 10 seconds is pretty good for an enhancement shaman.

I'm testing it right now on my MH and OH to see if it will double proc. If it does, then I found what I will be using. But since it does have a 35 second ICD, it may be restricted to only 1 weapon.

If so, then it will be my off-hand enchant.

That being said, FT attacks + ES + LB + Fire Nova happen often enough to at least have a 40% proc rate or greater depending on your hit, MH or OH or both and yadda yadda yadda.

But with casters mentioning switching weapons to gain the proc again...who knows.

~~Will edit after testing a little tomorrow.~~

BM WILL NOT DUAL PROC! Melee Shaman who like haste, throw it on your OH.

Commentaire de 512298

This was put on my OH weapon by an enchanter for me yesterday in IF.
It looks pretty cool too.
It's black and looks more magicy then your average buff or enchantment.

Commentaire de Debriatus

For affliction locks looking at World of Logs, uptime is about 25% give or take a percent. So the value of this enchant is equal to 62.5 haste which makes this almost equal to the 63SP enchant. This could mean more DPS if you can get it to proc at the right time(Refreshing haunt and DS sub-25%) and less DPS if it procs at a bad time(any time you have to move on a mobile fight). That being said if you're wearing a staff, go with SP. If you're using a 1h, it's all a matter of preference.

Commentaire de 535372

Just a little side note..... I enchanted Seethe last night with black magic. The weapon visual is not displaying. Just wondered if anyone else has experienced this?

Commentaire de 51368

It's black and looks more magicy then your average buff or enchantment.

HAHAHA nice reference!

Commentaire de 347360

Trying this as a disc priest doing double heals warrior for 3's. Since it procs off mana burns, I find it gives the upper edge when facing mirror teams. Not to mention it stacks with Hyperspeed Accelerators and Power Infusion, though I am uncertain if it stacks with Platinum Disks of Swiftness (I don't use this trinket as it doesn't stack with Hyperspeed Accelerators).

When all three of these are up, having a 1 second cased Mana Burn (talented) is very nice.

Commentaire de fyresygn99

Anyone else notice that the mats for this are:

6 Dream Shards
6 Greater Essence
6 Abyss Crystals

666...Black Magic? =)

Commentaire de 68625

Without any doubt the best enchant for arcane mages. Even for staffs.

Commentaire de 250654

Anyone done the maths to see if this is better for an assassination rogue (pve 41/18/2) than beserker?

Commentaire de 607532

In general, when are the best time for a aff-lock to get black magic?

Commentaire de 275963

After hearing this proc'd off Disc Priest Talent Reflective Shield, I would really like to know if I had this on and tosses Thorns around to the raid, if I would also get it to proc. Although this might not sound useful to a druid, especcially haste capped, it would be nice for Rejuv to crank out faster with the haste glyph every 35 seconds. Small boost useful in some places (Bonestorm, Festergut Blight, etc.)

Commentaire de 118464

WTB this enchant for helpful spells too >_<
250 haste > 63 sp imho

Commentaire de 308806

For affliction locks, here's a SimulationCraft assessing the differences between Mighty Spellpower and Black Magic:

Patch 3.3.3
Latency: High
Iterations: 10000
Margin of Error: 0.1%
BiS gear, all buffs/debuffs

PATCHWERK, 100 sec
Mighty SP: 13362 dps
Black Magic: 13365 dps
DIFFERENCE: 3 dps, 0.02%

HELTER SKELTER, 100 sec
Mighty SP: 10369 dps
Black Magic: 10372 dps
DIFFERENCE: 3 dps, 0.03%

PATCHWERK, 500 sec
Mighty SP: 12776 dps
Black Magic: 12760 dps
DIFFERENCE: -16 dps, -0.13%

HELTER SKELTER, 500 sec
Mighty SP: 10205 dps
Black Magic: 10193 dps
DIFFERENCE: -12 dps, -0.12%

I've simulated my own craptastic gear and got similar results. It's interesting to note that the shorter fights puts Black Magic ahead (barely), while longer fights put it behind. If I had to extrapolate for the shortest of fights (i.e. PvP encounters or mobs that drop in 10 to 30 sec), I'd say Black Magic is a slightly better enchant.

For raiding locks, the difference is negligible. Go with whatever looks cooler, or works better for your off-spec.

Commentaire de 697870

Items that can be used to increase haste:

Hand of Edward the Odd (and/or Blade of Wizardry) + Enchant Weapon - Black Magic + Scroll of Enchant Gloves - Minor Haste for a total of 580 haste (61.55% @ L57). If you have Lifeblood rank 7 (requires level 55) from Herbalism an additional 240 haste can be added (240 + 580) for 820 haste (87.02% @ L57).

Once level 60 is reached Haste Potion can be used for an additional 400 haste, for a total of (400 + 820) 1220 haste (122.00% @ L60).
Once level 70 is reached Blade of Wizardry can be used for an additional 280 haste.

Note, the multiplier for haste at level 57 is 10.6125 and at level 60 it is 10.00.
The haste multiplier for level 57 was found using the given "Chance on hit: Increases Haste Rating by 320 (33.96% @ L57)" from Hand of Edward the Odd.
The haste multiplier for level 60 was found using the given "Increases haste rating by 400 (40.00% @ L60)" from Haste Potion.
For more details see the "calculations" section below.

The proc from ....... Hand of Edward the Odd ........................... by itself is 320 ..... (33.96% @ L57).
The proc from ....... Enchant Weapon - Black Magic ................ by itself is 250 ..... (26.53% @ L57).
The effect from ..... Scroll of Enchant Gloves - Minor Haste ..... by itself is 10 ....... (1.6125% @ L57).
The effect from ..... Lifeblood rank 7 .......................................... by itself is 240 ..... (25.47% @ L57)
So if both the weapon and the enchant proc occur at the same time
(plus gloves enchant which is always present), and Lifeblood rank 7 is clicked, then the total = 820 haste (87.02% @ L57)

The proc from ....... Hand of Edward the Odd ........................... by itself is 320 ..... (32.00% @ L60).
The proc from ....... Enchant Weapon - Black Magic ................. by itself is 250 ..... (25.00% @ L60).
The effect from ..... Scroll of Enchant Gloves - Minor Haste ..... by itself is 10 ....... (1.00% @ L60).
The effect from ..... Lifeblood rank 7 .......................................... by itself is 240 ..... (24.00% @ L60)
The effect from ..... Haste Potion ............................................... by itself is 400 ..... (40.00% @ L60).
So if both the weapon and the enchant proc occur at the same time
(plus gloves enchant which is always present), Lifeblood rank 7 is clicked,
and you drink the haste potion at the same time then total = 1220 haste (122.00% @ L60)

List of haste weapons, enchants, potions, racial and class attributes (there might be more):
1. Hand of Edward the Odd
2. Blade of Wizardry
3. Enchant Weapon - Black Magic
4. Scroll of Enchant Gloves - Minor Haste
5. Enchant Gloves - Haste
6. Enchant Boots - Haste
7. Lifeblood (from Herbalism)

List of some items or attributes that (although not haste in name) increase spell casting or attack speed:
1. Shaman Bloodlust
2. Shaman Heroism
3. Troll Berserking
4. Rogue Slice and Dice
5. Hunter Rapid Fire

___ The values for healing in this table are not verified for patch 4.0+___
Lifeblood (from Herbalism):
Rank ..... Haste .......... Healing ..... Skill Level ..... Character Level
6 ............ 120 ............ 1200 ............ 375 ..................... 40
7 ............ 240 ............ 3600 ............ 450 ..................... 55
8 ............ 480 ............. ? .................. ? ........................ 65
___
Calculations:
How to find out by what percent 570 will increase haste by @ level 57.
a. Given: Increases Haste Rating by 320 (33.96% @ L57)
33.96% * 100 = 3396
3396 / 320 = 10.6125

Now use haste multiplier "10.6125" to calculate haste % @ L57.
320 haste * 10.6125 = 3396
Now convert back to a percent (3396/100) = 33.96%

Note: the haste multiplier at level 57 is 10.6125;
used the same method above and the given "Increases haste rating by 400 (40.00% @ L60)" to find out
haste multiplier at level 60 is 10.00.
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