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Rogue Cataclysm Talent Changes Rundown

envoyé 2010-06-10 à 00:17 par Malgayne

Roguethis is a preview.Talent Calculator: http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#fwants your feedbackTier 1

(3 points) - Unchanged.

(2 points) - Changed!
Cataclysm: After killing an opponent that yields experience or honor, gives you receive a 20/40% increased critical strike chance on your next ability. Lasts 20 seconds.

Current: After killing an opponent that yields experience or honor, gives you a 20/40% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Hemorrhage, Backstab, Mutilate, Ambush, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts 20 sec.

Unchanged.Tier 2

Némésis (3 points) - Unchanged.

(2 points) - Removed!
Current: Increases the damage caused by your Garrote and Rupture abilities by 15/30%.

New!

Cataclysm: Requires 2 points in Remorseless Attacks. After killing an opponent that yields experience or honor, Deadly Momentum gives you a 50/100% chance to refresh your Slice and Dice or Recuperate abilities to their original duration.

New!

Cataclysm: Even after your Sap wears off, its effects linger on enemies, reducing their damage done by 25/50% for 5 seconds.

Tier 3

(3 points) - Moved from Tier 2.

Vigueur (1 point) - Unchanged.

(2 points) - Removed!

Tier 4

(3 points) - Unchanged.

Poisons améliorés (5 points) - Unchanged.

Pied léger (2 points) - Unchanged.

(1 point) - Changed!
Cataclysm: When activated, generates 25 Energy and increases the critical strike chance of your next offensive ability by 100%.

Current: When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next offensive ability by 100%.

Unchanged.Unchanged.Tier 6

(5 points) - Unchanged.

(3 points) - Moved from Tier 7.

(2 points) - Removed!

Tier 7

Breuvage mortel (2 points) - Unchanged.

Outrance meurtrière (1 point) - Unchanged.

Improved Expose Armor (3 points) - New!
Cataclysm: Gives a 33/67/100% chance to refund all combo points used when performing your Expose Armor ability.

Tier 8

(3 points) - Unchanged.

(3 points) - Removed!

Murderous Intent (3 points) - New!
Cataclysm: When you Backstab an enemy that is at or below 35% health, you instantly recover 10/20/30 Energy.

Tier 9

(3 points) - Unchanged.

(1 point) - Unchanged.

(3 points) - Unchanged.

Tier 10

(5 points) - Unchanged.

Venomous Wounds (3 points) - New!
Cataclysm: Each time your Rupture or Garrote deals damage to an enemy that is afflicted with your poison, you have a 15/30/45% chance to deal with 616/619/621 additional Nature damage.

Tier 11

(1 point) - Removed!

Vendetta (1 point) - New!
Cataclysm: Marks an enemy for death, increasing all damage you deal to the target by 20% and granting you unerring vision of your target, regardless of concealments such as Stealth and Invisibility. Lasts 30 seconds.

Tier 1

(5 points) - Changed!
Cataclysm: Increases the damage dealt by your Sinister Strike ability by 1/2/3/4/5% and reduces its Energy cost by 1/2/3/4/5.

Current: Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 3/5.

Unchanged.Tier 2

Improved Recuperate (2 points) - New!
Cataclysm: Causes your Recuperate ability to restore an additional 1/2% of your maximum health.

Unchanged.Unchanged.Tier 3

(2 points) - Unchanged.

(1 point) - Unchanged.

(5 points) - Moved from Tier 4.

(5 points) - Removed!

Tier 4

(2 points) - Moved from Tier 2.

(2 points) - Unchanged.

(3 points) - Unchanged.

Tier 5

(5 points) - Removed!

Déluge de lames (1 point) - Unchanged.

(5 points) - Removed!

Reinforced Leather (5 points) - New!
Cataclysm: Increases your armor contribution from cloth and leather items by 10/20/30/40/50%.

Tier 6

(2 points) - Moved from Tier 3.

(2 points) - Unchanged.

Tier 7

Vitalité (3 points) - Unchanged.

(2 points) - Unchanged.

(3 points) - Moved from Tier 1.

Tier 8

(2 points) - Unchanged.

(5 points) - Unchanged.

Tier 9

(2 points) - Unchanged.

(1 points) - Unchanged.

(2 points) - Unchanged.

Sturdy Recuperation (2 points) - New!
Cataclysm: Reduces all damage taken by 4/8% while your Recuperate ability is active.

Tier 10

(5 points) - Unchanged.

Restless Blades (3 points) - New!
Cataclysm: Your damage finishing moves reduce the cooldown of your Blade Flurry, Killing Spree, and Sprint abilities by 0.5/1/1.5 second per combo point.

Tier 11

Série meurtrière (1 point) - Unchanged.

Tier 1

(5 points) - Unchanged.

(3 points) - Unchanged.

(3 points) - Removed!

(2 points) - Moved from Tier 4.

Tier 2

(2 points) - Unchanged.

(3 points) - Moved from Tier 1.

Tier 3

(3 points) - Moved from Tier 4.

(1 point) - Removed!

Hémorragie (1 point) - Moved from Tier 5.

Tier 4

(2 points) - Moved from Tier 3.

Dagger Specialization (5 points) - New!
Cataclysm: Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Daggers by 1/2/3/4/5%.

Removed!New!

Cataclysm: Empowers your Recuperate ability, causing its periodic effect to also restore 1/2/3 Energy.

Tier 5

(2 points) - Unchanged.

(1 point) - Unchanged.

(2 points) - Unchanged.

Tier 6

Maître de la discrétion (3 points) - Unchanged.

(5 points) - Unchanged.

Tier 7

(3 points) - Unchanged.

(1 point) - Unchanged.

Blood Spatter (2 points) - New!
Cataclysm: Increases the damage caused by your Garrote and Rupture abilities by 15/30%.

Trompe-la-mortUnchanged.Tier 8

(2 points) - Unchanged.

(5 points) - Unchanged.

Tier 9

(3 points) - Redesigned!
Cataclysm: Increases the ranged and melee critical hit chance of all party and raid members by 5%. When any player in your party or raid critically hits with a ranged or melee ability, you have a 33/66/100% chance to gain a combo point on your current target. This effect cannot occur more than once every 4/32/2 seconds.

Current: When anyone in your group critically hits with a damage or healing spell or ability, you have a 33/66/100% chance to gain a combo point on your current target. This effect cannot occur more than once every second.

Pas de l'ombreUnchanged.New!

Cataclysm: Requires 2 points in Blood Spatter. Increases your damage dealt to targets with a bleed effect on them by 2/4/6%.

Unchanged.Tier 10

(5 points) - Unchanged.

(3 points) - Redesigned! Moved from Tier 3.

Cataclysm: Your Eviscerate has a 4/8/12% chance per combo point to refresh your Rupture on the target to its original duration.

Current: Causes your attacks to ignore up to 3/6/9% of your target's Armor and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability by 10/20/30%

Tier 11

(1 point) - Unchanged.

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Commentaire de Heretic013 Heh
I know thats quite strange talent tree...
http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#fheMuxMoq0scZZebfzMxzfhoG:bdiVmc
It doesnt look so terrible ;p - but the q is: what with mastery bonus? Commentaire de MarioMetroid Some errors

Quick Recovery was changed. Currently it refunds 40/80% of the energy of a missed finishing move + +10/20% healing. In Cata it is just +10/20% healing

Opportunity was changed that it will be +10/20/30% dmg to ambush, garrote, backstab, and mutilate. (It is currently 10/20%).

Typo in Honor Among Thieves "This effect cannot occur more than once every 4/32/2 seconds." (should be 4/3/2) Commentaire de Sabitha Personally, I like most of these talents. I play an assassination rogue and I'm loving the new changes. The only problem is I don't have enough talent points! Commentaire de 05K4R Typo on the Subtlety tree on Honor Among Thieves:

Cataclysm: Increases the ranged and melee critical hit chance of all party and raid members by 5%. When any player in your party or raid critically hits with a ranged or melee ability, you have a 33/66/100% chance to gain a combo point on your current target. This effect cannot occur more than once every 4/32/2 seconds.Commentaire de Cadiac Wait, that vendetta sounds pretty overpowered in pvp, if you ask me :o Commentaire de Schmenza I'm not liking the fact that combat requires you to pick up multiple filler talents on the way to killing spree. Restless Blades seems interesting. The fact that we can get down to cold blood with killing spree makes me wonder if cold blood will cause every strike with killing spree to be a crit? Commentaire de budgie Vendetta is similar to hunter's mark. Commentaire de Coeurmasque I don't like most of these changes. Half the changes are just moving crap around that should've been moved and the other half is making up useless crap. Compared to the other released trees I say we have been given the short stick yet again. Hopefully 80-90% of this is not going to see the light of release day. Commentaire de Caperon I don't like most of these changes. Half the changes are just moving crap around that should've been moved and the other half is making up useless crap. Compared to the other released trees I say we have been given the short stick yet again. Hopefully 80-90% of this is not going to see the light of release day. As always: This is a preview. All of this is subject to change in the future, so don't get too attached.Commentaire de Coeurmasque yes yes i can read, just thought id put my thoughts of this preview out there as it is a preview and stated only "subject to change" and not stated "will of course change in the future" it leaves much open endedness Commentaire de Coldkil As always: This is a preview. All of this is subject to change in the future, so don't get too attached.http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#f0eMhegoV0oIuVuV0xZx0chttp://cata.wowhead.com/talent#fhe00xZE0gVruMdu0czbeoxhttp://cata.wowhead.com/talent#fhLZV0xZxbszhgzfxR0esiuCommentaire de Caperon Please, but please don't post pve subtlety builds.
Before you know it you'll start a chainreaction of niblets asking for one. Commentaire de Coldkil i know, but with all the buffs sublety is receiving at least we can try something. at max i've spent 100gold on it :P

after every build i've wwritten my thoughts about, but it's to soon to make comparisons/theorycrafting. Commentaire de Maelynn - assasination: http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#f0eMhegoV0oIuVuV0xZx0c left 4 points as fillers.
much similar to current, ofc 5% hit is a must. got blackjack cause it's useful in CC pulls, murderous intent become the "execute" of rogues. (more pvp feeling, but i needed points to go down in the tree).
melee haste in combat seems unreachable.Commentaire de Caperon ^
What? Commentaire de Coldkil
My tree is similar, except that I didn't take Venomous Wounds but instead went for Imp Ambush and Hemo in the sub tree. Seeing as how you no longer need Rupture/Garrote to be able to activate HfB, and I don't use those attacks for any other reason, I reckoned it'd be nicer to go for Hemo. I already use daggers for Muti, so Hemo should do a nice bit of damage if I don't have enough energy for Muti.Commentaire de Maelynn rupture will return in the cycles (nerf poison dmg, buff ability damage) and i'm pretty sure the nature damage will be affected by assasination mastery.Commentaire de Coldkil
So the proc chance on a bit of nature damage is good enough to make it worthwhile to use Rupture in the rotation and spend 3 talent points on it? I'm no theorycrafter, but so far it sounds a bit steep to me for something that doesn't even have a 100% chance.

But indeed, if Rupture will stay then it's no use going for Hemo. I just wish it wouldn't, I hate having to keep it up at the cost of using Envenom.Commentaire de Blackboy0

Vendetta (1 point) - New!
Cataclysm: Marks an enemy for death, increasing all damage you deal to the target by 20% and granting you unerring vision of your target, regardless of concealments such as Stealth and Invisibility. Lasts 30 seconds.

HuntersHunger for BloodCommentaire de Richardplex the spec i made, again similar to yours, is http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#f0eMhegoV0oIuAuV0xZx0s:fTZcm0
i chose turn the tables due to the addition of murderous intent, making it even more deadly, along with a nice bonus to mutilate :)
i also believe rupture with be buffed, and with venamous wounds make rupture, and using garrote as an opening, more effective. same with the talents for sap, as it probably will be needed.

i also assume the change to vendetta and cold blood is because ol' blizz want assassination to have more CD's.
I'm not liking the fact that combat requires you to pick up multiple filler talents on the way to killing spreeWhat are we, turning into Hunters or something?

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