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Commentaire de 11596

We had trouble with this fight but we worked out a strat like Firemaw. Here are his skills firstly though.

- Sacrifice: Teleports a random member to the platform he starts on. Ticks for a percentage of your health. Will reduce you to about 8% if you are at full health. When he starts casting this, he dumps all aggro. The tank will have to pick it up right after it finishes casting. Also, when he finishes sacrificing someone, he enrages for several seconds.
*NOTE* He doesn't sacrifice anyone out of his line of sight, or the MT

- Fire Pulse: Yells something and sends out a few pulses of fire like Baron Geddon. Ticks for about 800-1k in fire damage.

The Strat -
We tanked him in the doorway leading into the Satyr area. It was a bit like Chromag/Firemaw. We had the tank standing in the doorway, and the healers in line of sight of the tank, but not Thorngrin. We then had the dps running out of los whenever he started casting sacrifice. Doing it this way, no one ever got sacrificed and he never enraged.

Commentaire de 11596

Hmm, it might have been because we had a hunter mis-direct pull Thorngrin to the tank, so that he always had aggro.

Commentaire de 16385

Just to let you know, Right after this guy there is 2 or 3 groups of stealthed demons, and in the next hallway thing the mobs do a powerfull aoe that works like ghoul posion from scholo, but tics for like 1.2k

Commentaire de 3201

It was my first time in Botanica. We had our ranged classes on the above ledge near the ramp. Our druid tank, hunter and rogue died when the boss was at about 50%. I (warlock) managed to dot-kite him to death with the help of a druid healer. I just jumped down from the ledge when the boss was coming closer and ran to the further ramp and then back to the ledge and repeated untill the boss was dead. The boss healed himself a bit by sacrificing the druid sometimes but it was easily over dps'ed.

Commentaire de laxer0

Lock, Feral Druid, Mage, Pally, Warrior

tanked near the ramp, ranged dps up on the ramp, out of his fire aoe. fire resist aura. and dpsed him down, healer must keep everyone near 90% or so, because when sacrificed the dot will do 7-8k . When random player is sacrifced he gains life back, not much but still annoying.

Commentaire de 9857

Tank him in the middle of the room with the party on the altar. Have tank run out of aoe back towards group, and heal the guy who gets sacrificed. Simple fight, has little hp, dies in a minute.

Commentaire de 25427

We tried stayclean's tac, but didnt work. I Misdirected my agro on tank, everyone stood in doorway but we got sacrificed anyway.

The best is to fight downstairs.

Commentaire de Optional

70 hunter - I solod this guy from 40% and down, kited hi maround the entire instance. i could solo. of course, if the instance was clear. :)

he has no anti-kite spells or abilities, push comes to shove, kite him

Commentaire de Linus

Heroic:
Same abilities, Fire Pulse is considerably stronger. Most important change is that he resets his aggro list the moment he sacrifices someone.

Commentaire de Fuzoya

Hm, this guy is really tricky on heroic.
How much Hp/armor does the tank need?
That would be of great help if anyone had a clue :)
When the boss enraged he hitted around 4500 on our warriortank once a second , we had no chance of healing him at all.

I read the other comments , and i got a question as well , when do you know when he sacrifices?

My party was Warrior-prot , feral-druid , paladin-holy , priest-shadow and mage-fire.

We did not manage to kill this boss.

Commentaire de 33158

Anyone else find this guy's name hilarious?

"Hi, I'm Thorngrin the Tender, and this is my friend Sensitive Sam."

Commentaire de 40525

Here's a really useful bit of information. Warriors can reflect his Sacrifice with Shield Reflect. It saves you a lot of health. However, he still drops aggro, so everyone has to stop attacking until the tank can get aggro back.

Commentaire de 6514

Mages can iceblock out of sac, at least on normal mode.
If you have a shaman get them to throw an elemental into the fight, as he will sac them instead sometimes.

Commentaire de Izzmo

Pretty simple boss with a good group. Just watch out, he "sacrifices" people, and it will hurt them. He also does an AoE (Fire) that does around 600 dmg per tick. Reletively easy, just a tank and spank.

Commentaire de Gutts

does draining out his mana force him to stop sacrficing?

Commentaire de radeox

On heroic:
- A mage
- A shadow priest
- A holy priest
- A feral druid
- A warlock

We did not manage to kill the boss, we skipped this and went to last boss.

Commentaire de Kathucka

Hunters should drop a snake trap as often as they can on this. There's a good chance that he'll sacrifice a snake instead of a player.

Commentaire de Zeneva

My group was awesome..
We got him down to 16% before he sacrificed a player and we also forgotten to clear the rogues b4 we start the fight..infact hes easy..wif great DPS hes a goner

Commentaire de 69401

Heroic: Downed him last night first try with this setup
Prot Warrior
Resto Shaman
Fire/Arcane Mage
Shadow Priest
Hunter (don't remember spec)

A lot of range dps helps on Thorngrin, and the shaman kept fire resist totem up to help with hellfires. On heroic, definitely have tank stay in the hellfire to taunt or Shield Slam when he frenzies or he will 2 shot a squishy. Our priest went hybrid for this fight and helped to heal through hellfire, he doesn't take a ton of dps so might wanna try this if you have an offhealer.

Commentaire de Rainfall

As of current PTR patchnotes he's getting a bit nerfed in 2.2:

* The time between casting of Thorgrin the Tender's Hellfire has been increased.
* The time between casting of Thorgrin the Tender's Sacrifice has been increased in Heroic Mode.
* Thorgrin the Tender's Enrage ability now increases his melee damage by 75% instead of 110%.

Commentaire de 83199

I would have to say this fight is pretty easy seeing as what happened to my group ( Non heroic). Me Afflic warlock, rogue, warrior, priest and paladin tanking. I pulled aggro straight away=/ and died then the rogue died about 10 seconds later from hellfire to sacrifice so it left the tank and healer. They both were hit by hellfire and the priest was even sacrificed but they still killed him. He dropped Arcane Netherband.

Commentaire de 43910

This guy has the coolest voice ever!

Commentaire de gnidleif

Maybe I was just lucky or something but I am a recently dinged level 70 hunter, with some greens and two gladiator parts and the rest random blues from quests and such.

I still got into a group for heroic Botanica, and when we got to this boss our tank had some major problems and the rest of my group wiped at 20%, so I started kiting ( I used Aspect of the Cheetah ) him up the sides of the stairs and jumped down so he would have to run around down and up the stairs to get to me.

After like 2 minutes or so of kiting I finally killed him and I got to be the hero of the group for 5 minutes, but that doesn't matter.

Things I found out about this was that :
1. He never did his Sacrifice on me while I was alone.
2. If number one means that he doesnt do it ever while you do this encounter alone, then that means that this boss is the easiest boss to solo that I've heard off.

Just keep out of range and shoot him like normal when you kite, keep serpent sting on.

Commentaire de Judgebob

Just did a Botanica run on heroic not too long ago, though most told me this was the hardest fight there, I found it no problem when I tanked it as a Prot pally, I did this as my first heroic run on this character and breezed through it easy, to tank this boss as a prot pally, start off as usual (AVW and AS) then stack seal of vengeance on him, if he runs to another player, taunt him off, if he sacrifices you, just bubble cancel bubble and taunt.

Also, the best strat I have done (done this many a times on regular) is to hold him in front of his altar just out of range of hellfire and keep dragging him back there whenever he runs off, best also to BOP the person when they get sacrificed (you should know that).

And as a reminder to prot pally's, hes a demon and is susceptible to exorcism and holy wrath, though most might not take full use of holy wrath, its a nice addition when you time it right to hit him right after hellfire.

Commentaire de 141912

We just had a warlock solo this guy on Heroic. Affliction specced, he just kept jumping from the ledge near the back of the room to and from the box below. This forces Thorngrin to run all the way back and around to try to attack the lock. Dot and repeat jumping. took a couple of minutes and he was dead. If having trouble 5 manning him and u got a lock in the group give it a try lol.

Commentaire de 61664

You can't pvp trinket out of the sacrifice, but it still uses the cooldown =[

Commentaire de 108241

He is not immune to fire damage.
:D

Commentaire de 55952

By the way, note that the "tender" in his name indicates that he tends things, like how one would tend to a garden, or how a shepherd tends to his herd. It does not mean that he is tender, as a tender chicken nugget or steak would be. It also does not mean that he is easily emotionally hurt or offended, as a tender soul would be.

I know, I know, it sounds stupid, but I've run Bot at least 50 times, and I just now understood his name.

Commentaire de Lisey

Mysteriously enough, as of 6.0.2., his hellfire ability now seems to be a new blue color!

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