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Commentaire de Senkashinai

Edit màj 7.0.3 : Vous pouvez désormais utiliser votre Carpe de Chutelune en groupe de raid, ce qui invoquera un Troglodyte de Chutelune que tout le monde pourra loot. Plus il y aura de pêcheurs, plus il y aura de carpes... Et donc plus il y aura de loots intéressants !
Le 26/07/2016, Tortue de monte pêchée après environ deux heures de farm dans un groupe de +30 personnes.... En additionnant à ceci le millier de lancers effectués seule auparavant, ça fait un paquet de Troglodyte de Chutelune tués... Et aussi pas mal de temps économisé grâce au patch 7.0.3 !

Une fois la Cabane de pêche, niveau 3 installée dans votre fief, vous pourrez pêcher dans les eaux de votre fief la Carpe de Chutelune pour invoquer un Troglodyte de Chutelune.

Vous pouvez attraper ET utiliser vos Carpe de Chutelune plusieurs fois dans la même journée. Cependant ce n'est pas utile à moins de les utiliser dans le but d'obtenir une des montures que le Troglodyte de Chutelune peut vous donner, la Tortue de monte ou la Tortue de mer. Attention, vous ne pouvez avoir que cinq Carpe de Chutelune en même temps dans votre inventaire.

Nombres de lancers qu'il m'a fallu (les chiffres indiqués sont les détails de ma compétence de pêche) :

• Carpe de Chutelune numéro 1 - 112 lancers (700 + 35 (canne à pêche) = 735)
*Invocation d'un Troglodyte de Chutelune. Loot : 1x Canne à pêche éphémère / 3x Suprême de vers / 1x Pièce porte-bonheur de Nat / 1x Flotteur en verre / 4x Tonique de soins / morceaux de poissons de Draenor*

• Carpe de Chutelune numéro 2 - 2 lancers (700 + 100 (Canne à pêche éphémère) + 200 (Suprême de vers) = 1000)
*Invocation d'un Troglodyte de Chutelune. Loot : 1x Chapeau en forme de poisson / 1x Fendoir à poisson / 1x Suprême de vers / 2x Tonique de soins / morceaux de poissons de Draenor*

• Carpe de Chutelune numéro 3 - 21 lancers (700 + 100 (Canne à pêche éphémère) + 100 (Chapeau en forme de poisson) + 200 (Suprême de vers) = 1100)
*Invocation d'un Troglodyte de Chutelune. Loot : 1x Chapeau à tentacules / 1x Suprême de vers / 4x Tonique de soins / 1x Pipe de pêcheur en ivoire / morceaux de poissons de Draenor*

• Carpe de Chutelune numéro 4 - 65 lancers (700 + 100 (Canne à pêche éphémère) + 100 (Chapeau en forme de poisson) + 200 (Suprême de vers) = 1100)
*Invocation d'un Troglodyte de Chutelune. Loot : 1x Canne à pêche éphémère / 3x Suprême de vers / 1x Morceau de verre blanc sans valeur / 4x Potion de mana draenique / morceaux de poissons de Draenor*

Pour ces quatre Carpe de Chutelune il m'a donc fallu 200 lancers tout pile, soit une chance de loot de 2% .

Edition du 14/06/2016 :
Rien que pour vos beaux yeux, de nouveaux chiffres.
• 600 lancers = 21 Carpe de Chutelune soit une chance de loot de 3.5%.
• Session du jour : 43 lancers = 3 Carpe de Chutelune soit une chance de loot de 6.8%.
• Divers items d'aide à la pêche obtenus très régulièrement (Canne à pêche éphémère, Chapeau en forme de poisson...) en tuant Troglodyte de Chutelune.
• Une fois Boussole insolite en tuant Troglodyte de Chutelune, bien que cet item ne soit pas repris dans sa table de loot.
• Une fois Clampant des rivages en tuant Troglodyte de Chutelune.

La plupart des lancers ont été effectués avec une compétence de pêche de 1100. Quelques uns en dessous bien entendu, le temps d'obtenir les items d'up de pêche.

Commentaire de Kartalonix

J'ai trouvé aussi ce jouet en tuant le Troglodyte de Chutelune.

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Commentaire de sonic314

Once you've upgraded your Fishing Shack to Level 3 you can catch fish that summon mobs. I just upgraded my shack today, on the beta server, and caught one of these special fish, a Lunarfall Carp (I also got Nat Pagle as a follower but that's another story).

Right click the fish in your bags to throw it in the water and summon a Lunarfall Cavedweller. It's a deep sea murloc, Level 100, non-elite, and not too hard to kill considering I had my fishing gear on.

Once you kill the murloc it drops a lot of loot. Mostly fishing related stuff.

For my kill I received...

Awesomefish X20
Grieferfish X20
Worm Supreme X20
Ephemeral Fishing Pole X1
Healing Tonic X1
Stranglekelp X3
Worthless piece of orange glass X3

Your milage may vary.

Standard Disclaimer: This is from beta testing and is subject to change before it goes live.

Commentaire de Torpedoes

Um I just got a Tortue de monte out of this. Semi-proof: https://imgur.com/YZk8ENX

EDIT: It also drops an Boussole insolite and a Tortue de mer.

Commentaire de Enquillion

You can invite a friend, have them phase to your garrison and kill the murloc together. That way you can give away the hat/pole :)

Commentaire de nechin

Let the world know: the Murlocs are back.

Commentaire de Serden

Kill the Troglodyte de Chutelune before you try to summon another one. It will just waste the Carpe de Chutelune if you use it and one is still alive.

Commentaire de 1400297

Just sold the Sea Turtle Mount, everyone in your group can loot it. I put on Master Loot and traded it after it dropped for 30k.

One funny thing, the Sea Turtle mount dropped already two days in a row for me and always on the first kill of the day. Will report tomorrow if it drops again.

Commentaire de anthonyboii3469

Comparing to other who got drop at first or after few tries, I got mine ~50 tries.
Happy fishing!

Semi-prof:
http://imgur.com/rwAB95h

Commentaire de thranlynn

It's not showing yet in the loot table, but you can apparently also receive the toy Boussole insolite as loot from these guys.

I don't want to know how many I've killed trying to get those stupid turtles.

Commentaire de SnowyIVu

Took me 158 Lunarfall Cavedwellers before I found my Riding Turtle. They're there... just keep fishing...

Commentaire de Ghoulthaz

Why are there murlocs on draenor?

Commentaire de gzimmer

As of 6.1, drop rates for worm supreme from the cavedwellers has drastically dropped. I used to get at least a full 20 stack of these for a kill and now it's maybe 2-3 per kill.

Commentaire de Chertok

Today, I dropped 20 Esprit primordial on a Troglodyte de Chutelune I Think it's very rare because it seems that nobody found it on the Wowhead addon... Or Maybe a new item droppable by this NPC since the 6.1's release?

Commentaire de Esker006

I just finished slaying my 225th Lunarfall Cavedweller and haven't seen either of the turtle mounts. Nobody understands that RNG is RNG better than an angler, but I was hoping somebody could confirm that the turtles are still in the loot table in 6.1, as it's clear they tweaked the loot table a fair amount (removed Awesomefish, added Primal Spirits, etc). This seemed like a better alternative to Pandaria pool fishing but I'm definitely having my doubts. Thanks, and good fishing!

EDIT: Scratch that, found a post over on the Frostdeep Minnow page that confirms the Riding Turtle post 6.1. I'll leave this post here for that information in case anybody else is looking for it as well... plus, consider this some reassurance to fellow anglers that no, not everybody got theirs within their first 50. Nothing to do but to keep at it! Stay sane, brothers and sisters.

Commentaire de badpope

confirmed. I received Boussole insolite today. This needs to be added to the current loot table with the sites next build/data check.

Commentaire de Shadowloot

Just got a Tortue de monte - so regardless of the other changes in loot it still drops with 6.1.

Commentaire de Cofresi

Yesterday I received both Tortue de mer and Tortue de monte from Troglodyte de Chutelune in the same set of 5 Carpe de Chutelune in my bag.

Very lucky indeed! Of course this was about 100th Carpe de Chutelune I had already thrown in.

One thing I found useful to increase my odds to getting any particular loot is to ensure I have all the Draenor Bait already in my bag or rather all unique items dropped from the mobs. Since this baits are unique they will not be looted from the Troglodyte de Chutelune again while trying to get the mounts.

I know is not a big of a difference but your actually eliminating 7 additional items from dropping and when you dont have them in your bag or bank the drop rate is pretty high.

Best thing to do is keep them in you bank all 7 baits all the time. If you need one just take it out use it and the next one will be caught before the it runs out in 10 minutes. this way you always have one.

Good luck fishing!

Commentaire de Doumi

Got a Riding Turtle and a jeweled fishing pole after 2 kills only. I guess I got lucky! I was fishing at 900 skill-up (worm and tentacle hat).

Rootings - Sargeras

Commentaire de 1488898

300 no mount(either ones).

6 compass toys

loads of lvl 1 twink/mog armors

luckily no diamond cane, or mount, so lucky.

only 300, compared to other ppl's 3, or 50, or 80, this is nothing, i gotta keep work @ it.

Commentaire de 1503639

i can confirm that the Lunarfall Cavedweller droped Weather-Beaten Journal for me , which is not mentioned in mob loot table in wowhead

as for the turtle mount...still waiting for it

good luck for everyone

Commentaire de 1421390

ive been doing all the fishing dailies for years now, but this little fella finally gave me my jeweled fishing pole
too bad i used the Ligne de pêche porte-bonheur de Freux on my kaluak fishin pole

Commentaire de Kipwar

So I have been farming this for a week now, currently on 145 kills, I have a few bits of information to share....

Firstly I'm pretty sure Awesomefish, grieferfish and stranglekelp don't drop anymore as I have not seen a single one of these (possibly add swiftness potion & swim speed potion to that list). Anyone else noticed this?

EDIT 1: Now on 205 kills...
EDIT 2: Got the Riding Turtle on 214 Kills! only the sea turtle to go.

My loot so far(notable) has been...

* 40x+ each of Ephemeral Fishing Rod, Tentacle Hat, Hightfish Hat.
* 9 Unusual Compass
* 2 Jeweled Fishing Rod
* 6 Weather Beaten Hats
* 4 Poison Vials
* 40+ Fishing Coins
* 1 Battered Jungle Hat.....
* 1 Bone Fishing Pole
* 1 Riding Turtle

Such a boring grind, especially that you can't hold more than 5 at any one time. Hopefully I get them soon.

Good luck all

Commentaire de Orchideadly

I think there is a bug with baits, maybe is just me.
Tried with physical baits (dropped) and it works perfectly, i could fish 1 each 20 with 1100 fishing skill.
But at a certain point, i have lost my bait going to eat, so i have decided to took the bait talking with Nat. Not a single Cavedweller dropped in 200+ fish.
Maybe it doesn't work with Nat baits :)

Commentaire de 1549407

Just wanted to mention that they seem to no longer drop Awesomefish , I've summoned and killed around 400 so far, Not a single Awesomefish.

Also would like to mention that I did get my Riding turtle and they do drop Boussole insolite as well as weather-beaten Journal only to who haven't already got it..

EDIT : I just got the Clampant des rivages Also got the Battered Jungle Hat to drop, No Tortue de mer yet >_>.

Commentaire de wernhard

This really is a hell of a grind, the worst so far for me.
Will soon reach 300 Cavedwellers and nothing so far.
My greatest fear is that the sea turtle will drop, the one i already have.
After that i probably have to farm another 500 Carps. :S

On the other hand i got over 100 of Nat's lucky coins. Unfortunately they are worthless until you farm your reputation up with him by farming another 5 billion rare fish.
Sadly i realized this AFTER i reached 100 and trying to buy the crimson water strider.

Good luck to the other fellow fisherman.

Commentaire de caramon420

NOTE: WHAT YOU NEED FOR THIS GRIND
1. Cabane de pêche, niveau 3
2. Suprême de vers
3. Lure bait any kinda u want..
4. MAY lose your mind..... Bring a friend...lol oh yeah my self..

What a grind this is 4th day fishing for this bad boy Carpe de Chutelune (alliance side) (horde side) Throw back in and you get a Troglodyte de Chutelune and at 395 Carpe de Chutelune still no luck at 16 hours a day doing this so far. I want the Tortue de monte so bad been such a long days. But keep in mind the fish that you have fished can make over 75k just selling them 200 gold a stack in four days. Lots of Suprême de vers. And got my Tortue de mer on my 50th Carpe de Chutelune.

Pièce porte-bonheur de Nat x157 and still going
I have also farmed this Pièce porte-bonheur de Nat to get my mount Rênes de trotteur aquatique cramoisi for 100 Pièce porte-bonheur de Nat and my Hat Chapeau à boire de Nat for 25 Pièce porte-bonheur de Nat and my Fishing rod Canne à pêche draenique for 25 Pièce porte-bonheur de Nat.

Also you do not get Lunker's for this farm. This you will have to go out in Draenor for either Fishing from fishing pools or standing there make sure your fishing skill is high as it can go to get the Lunker's. ill update with more once I'm done this long ass grind most fishing i have done in a long time...

Day 5 what a grind after a long 5 days it finally drop after the 563 Carpe de Chutelune. ill update with a pic soon.

Commentaire de vanycon

I'am around 115 kills now, still no turtle....
Will update, when it drops.

Edit: so happy, after 192 kills on my ally (around 30 on my horde) Tortue de monte dropped <3
Edit2: Will farm the sea turtle with my marine missions, will comment there how long it will take (2016/04/19)
Edit:3: Got my sea turtle yesterday (see Edit2 how) so took around one month with 12 chars

Commentaire de stealthyboy

around my tenth carp, started the level 3 shack achieve today aswell, sorry to everyone raging at this. :) http://i.imgur.com/UNzeOWX.jpg

Commentaire de Loukie

Whoop got Tortue de mer yesterday did not even try to get it.

Commentaire de SirLootalot

Just got my Tortue de monte drop in Patch 7.0.3. after around 8-10 hours of fishing.

Good luck, fellow fishermen!

Commentaire de Yoter

With the new Legion loot system you can form (or join) raids to farm the cavedwellers.
There is no faster way than having 40 ppl fish in the same lake, cavedwellers spawn every 10 sec.

So get out there and grind rhose turtles before B. nerfs this to oblivion!

P.S. Just make sure people have the Draenor Angler achievement to contribute!

Commentaire de Mcmillna

461 attempts, finally got it today.

pre-patch 7.0, fishing in a raid group, personal loot.

Had 380 attempts solo with now luck. Running rarity, I was up to 90% "unlucky" rate.

Commentaire de jjanchan

Since the changes to Personal Loot in the Legion pre-patch, the lot from Troglodyte givre-profond and Troglodyte de Chutelune can be looted by EVERYONE in a raid group.
This means that creating a 40-man raid of people that are fishing simultaneously in the garrison can increase your changes of fishing up rare items like Tortue de monte and Tortue de mer by 40 times. There are many such groups in the Group Finder as of late July, 2016.

Note that everyone fishing must have the achievement Hameçonneur de Draenor in order to fish up the Vairon givre-profonds/Carpe de Chutelune that summon the Cavedwellers. The achievement is NOT required to loot the mount, however.

The loot method should be set to Personal loot, of course.

Commentaire de greengoo

I fished up both Turtle mounts in about two hours in a 40-man raid group doing this on 7/24/16. Three other members of my guild did it also (one or both mounts) in a similar time period.

Commentaire de ivano42

It seems can't get two Lunarfall Cavedweller at once, need some coordination, in a big fishing raid.

Commentaire de ivano42

Liking this macro "/use Findle's Loot-A-Rang /use Fishing"

Commentaire de Orendil

Not clue if they upped thee drop rate but I just unlocked my rank 3 fishing shack yesterday and from my first carp I got I caught it dropped the TCG turtle.

Commentaire de ammonite

I planned on posting here once I hit 1000 casts with my drop rate for Carpe de Chutelune, but I got quite lucky and got my riding turtle before then. In total, after I started using fishing buddy, I recorded 584 casts. During that time, I caught 25 carp, for a 4.3% drop rate. (Unfortunately for the carp I caught before that, I did not have the addon installed.) My adjusted fishing skill was at 1200 (level 800, plus an Canne à pêche éphémère, a Chapeau à tentacules, and Suprême de vers as bait). From the same 25 carp, I received a single Boussole insolite and 12 Pièce porte-bonheur de Nat. The only other item of any potential interest was a single Bock orné.

Commentaire de Terrassen

I just tried it with a raid group with loot set to personal and it isn't as effective. Not sure if it's been the same before, but at least today with personal loot only one of the raid members get the "white-colored" loot. Items that are rare quality or higher are rolled on by everyone, as the loot window comes up.

I think it's more effective to do it alone, rather than have that low chance in getting a mount in a raid group. Unless you are being boosted by friends that already have the mount(s), that helps fish for the Minnows/Carps and uses them.

Commentaire de Blondina

Got the mount today.
+ 35 skill - using random baits.
2.461 casts
103 Lunar Carps - droprate 2,4 %
Last 34 Carps with 8,6 % droprate (increased after 20.00 servertime) - a little to high to be pure luck?
Good luck

Commentaire de Jkizis

There ,has to be more to it. Caught a carp on 2nd cast using a +10 bobber and legendary fishing pole from Legion. Dweller dropped Nat's Lucky Coin x2, Worm Supreme x2, two random bait(s), Very Unlucky Rock Draenic, Mana Potions x2, and Ephemera Fishing Pole. And the mystery Nat Pagle didn't come bother me then drop dead.. hehe, almost forgot about all that confusion in WoD. So no mystery buff or anything. And I'm def not that lucky.

Commentaire de pallyberry

I'd just like to note that if YOU have a level 3 fishing shack, you can invite your friend to come along for the kills but if they don't have a level 3 fishing shack they will not be able to catch the Lunarfall Carp.

Only people who have level 3 fishing shacks are able to catch Lunarfall Carp - even if you're visiting your friends Level 3 shack.

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