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Commentaire de Rhages

Au 600 en alchimie spé transmutations,
Pour obtenir cette transmutation j'ai fait 62 avec 1x par potion ...
J'ai ramassé plein d'autre formules que je n'avait pas en supplément ...
L'avantage reste que cette potion se vend plus cher au pnj (60 pa)

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Commentaire de Smokinbull

any idea what lvl is required to learn that? is it possible to skill all the way with 85?

tanks

Commentaire de 867374

You can discover this recipe as early as 580 skill points. Personally, I got it somewhere between 580-585 skill.

Commentaire de mredig

In raw materials, this will take

12x Minerai de trillium noir
12x Minerai de trillium blanc

OR if you transmute the Barre d'ectofer to Barre de trillium

60x Barre d'ectofer

OR you can do that with access to a miner and smelt 120x Minerai d'ectofer to get the bars

Hopefully you have access to a miner!

Commentaire de ParRathorne

Just for clarity since the information here is incorrect, this recipe can be discovered at 560. It is red and gives you +5 alchemy if used at 560. To discover it, craft any of the potions/flasks that give you a chance of discovering alchemy 'patterns'. If you are lucky enough, the transmute sells for bucket-loads at the moment (6.5k on Al'Akir atm)... so get selling!

Commentaire de 1039905

Appears to share a cooldown with Transmute Pyrium Ore.

Commentaire de grevios

If you are a transmute master, this doesn't seem to proc any additional living steel until you hit 600.

I did this transmute 6 times prior to hitting 600 and got 0 procs, and have since done the transmute twice and got 2 procs. Might need others to confirm this, and will update as I get extra information.

EDIT: have since done it another 4 times and only had 1 further proc, so the proc rate definitely is not that high. Still haven't found anyone else who has had a proc prior to 600 skill, so I think the theory is still possible, but unlikely.

Commentaire de staramor

Transmute Living Steel Shares a cooldown with transmute Pyrium , Transmute Living Elements, Transmute Water to Air and others that I have seen reported elsewhere.

In Cata, the Transmute Truegold similarly shared a cooldown with those others but Truegold no longer triggers that cooldown group.

I am guessing that each Alchemist has a daily "Have I done a transmute or not" Boolean variable and "major" transmutations trigger that "on/off" switch. It’s conceivable that there would be more than one variable for different classes of spells.

It easier for me to get my head around it (semi-RP) if I don't think of the spell itself having a trigger, but the alchemist only having so much arcane power to focus on a type of activity each day.

Commentaire de Cleptor

Unlike the rumors elsewhere, you neither need to be level 90, nor do you need to have 600 alchemy skill for your transmutation expertise to work on this.

My alchemist is a transmutation master and this transmutation proc'd a few days ago when he was level 86 and the alchemy skill was still at 592. I got two Acier vivant out of one transmutation.

BTW: I learned this while making Huile désacralisée so don't carelessly vendor or throw away your Poisson-hérisson if you happen to have any.

Commentaire de 138867

Got an x5 proc of this the other day... just about fell out of my chair. x2 proc is more common, but only about 1 out of 5 transmutes if you're lucky.

Commentaire de 125795

If you are a transmute master, this doesn't seem to proc any additional living steel until you hit 600. (...) I think the theory is still possible, but unlikely

RNG is RNG. thats not how things work.

It's entirely possible the proc has something to do with your skill level. Like with Mote of Harmony in MoP, they have a rough droprate of 10% when you are lvl85, and 11-12-13-14-15% droprate when you are lvl86-90. This was never uncovered pre-MoP, this difference in droprate based on our level. So I would say a proc rate based on profession skill is not that unlikely, and I will not dismiss it as a possibility yet. I guess time will show.

Commentaire de HolyShield

Doing this transmute (at 600 skill level) for two weeks now each day and never have any extra bar.

Around how much small could be the proc rate?

Commentaire de 716334

Can anyone tell me how the transmute cool-down resets now since patch 5.1 ? It used to reset at 0000 server time but that seems to have changed since the patch. There is a blue post from Blizzard saying that the USA/Oceanic servers have had daily resets consolidated to 1 set time but there's no equivalent post for EU servers. If it makes any difference, I'm on Terenas EU so its based on Paris time for us. I could wait up till the middle of the night and keep checking but if anyone has the info already I'd really appreciate knowing. Thanks.

Commentaire de ambrelle

How do i get transmute steel if I am already a transmute master before the patch?

I am a lelvel 560 alchemist. The teachers at SW and at Dal say I am maxed as a Zen master. This is so frustrating. Thanks so much, to anyone who can help!

Commentaire de rb4havoc

Blizzard apparently changed this so you can now discover recipes other than the ones in MoP. I just discovered Transmute: Primal Water to Shadow through it.

Commentaire de huspomike

Hi. Could someone with practical experience comment on this for me:

. . . Can an alchemist open a trade-window, and allow the non-alchemist to place 3 Trillium Bar + 3 Spirit of Harmony (soulbound items) into the window, and then transmute the bunch for somebody else?

. . . This would be very similar to the way that Rogues can open the trade window, then pick another player's locked item, or how Enchanters can sometimes enchant a wearable item through the trade window.

. . . . . . Thanks for considering this. Sorry for being naive.

Commentaire de 1170002

Can you make more than one living steel at once? Lets say you have the mats for 10 living steel, could you make 10 living steel at once, or only one at a time?

Commentaire de Arachnadactly

I just learnt the transmute the riddle of steel which uses 3 Trillium bars and 3 spirit of harmony.
I didnt know about that recipe and it hasnt been mentioned here. It saves half your trillium ore.

Commentaire de jordexciu

The cheapest way I found to unlock this is through Régénération de l'alchimiste

Costs 1x Fiole de cristal (80c)
and 2x Feuille de thé vert (75s each on my server)

30g for 20 potions.

Commentaire de 1451937

Got this today on my lvl 80 alchemist at around 590-595 skill.

Commentaire de pakteri

This will make your life easier! Try it out.
To make this work; you have to run the script in the chat box (you copy-paste it and press enter) and it will create an icon that you can drag onto your bars.

Alchemy

Catalyseur alchimique : /run PickupSpell(156587)
Secrets d’alchimiste de Draenor : /run PickupSpell(175880)
Transmutation : acier vivant : /run PickupSpell(114780)

Blacksmithing

Lingot de véracier : /run PickupSpell(171690)
Secrets de forgeron de Draenor : /run PickupSpell(176090)
Lingot de trillium équilibré : /run PickupSpell(143255)
Lingot de foudracier : /run PickupSpell(138646)

Enchanting

Cristal temporel : /run PickupSpell(169092)
Secrets d’enchanteur de Draenor : /run PickupSpell(177043)

Engineering

Pièces de gyro-ressort : /run PickupSpell(169080)
Secrets d’ingénieur de Draenor : /run PickupSpell(177054)
Source d’énergie personnelle de Jard : /run PickupSpell(139176)

Inscription

Peintures de guerre : /run PickupSpell(169081)
Secrets de calligraphe de Draenor : /run PickupSpell(177045)
Parchemin de sagesse : /run PickupSpell(112996)

Jewelcrafting

Cristal de taladite : /run PickupSpell(170700)
Secrets de joaillier de Draenor : /run PickupSpell(176087)
Cœur du serpent : /run PickupSpell(140050)

Leatherworking

Cuir bruni : /run PickupSpell(171391)
Secrets de travailleur du cuir de Draenor : /run PickupSpell(176089)
Peau magnifique durcie : /run PickupSpell(142976)
Splendeur du cuir : /run PickupSpell(140040)

Tailoring

Étoffe de trame-sort : /run PickupSpell(168835)
Secrets de couturier de Draenor : /run PickupSpell(176058)
Étoffe des Astres : /run PickupSpell(143011)
Soie impériale : /run PickupSpell(125557)

PS: You can do this for all your spells on your professions. All you gotta do is check the spell id from wowhead and use it.

Commentaire de CainePipe

Anyone know if this transmute can give you one of the BC transmute discoveries? It does share a cooldown with the all the other transmutes that do.

Commentaire de middles24

Something might be up with the BFA pre-patch or I'm extremely unlucky. I have made 300 rejuves, still no Transmute: Living Steel.

Commentaire de pat33

DON'T FORGET TO STUDY: Maître des transmutations with SW/ORG Alchemy trainers to enable a chance for more transmutes on each daily!

Commentaire de JohnCrichton

After crafting more than 200 potions and only i got 2 recipes and no Living Steel i returned here and spotted the text above the info Difficulty: 75 75 75 which means u need 75 alchemy on Pandaria so be able to get it,i will test that today and will post again if it worked :)

Commentaire de Yama1291

I think you need at least 60 Pandaria Alchemy to be able to randomly learn this. The earliest skill level I got it at was 62.

Commentaire de addmydataz

After reading up on Transmute: Living Steel here on WoWhead, reading through all of the comments, & checking my Alchemy Profession Tab, something seems a bit off.

Several of the posters mention using Alchemist's Rejuvenation Potion for obtaining T:LS, burning through a pile of Green Tea Leaves & not obtaining it until " 'X' level in Pandarian Alchemy" or "637 potions", etc.

Reading the description for Alchemist's Rejuvenation reveals the following: "When making this potion, you have a chance to learn other Pandaria alchemy recipes." Checking under the heading for Transmute: Living Steel in my Unlearned Recipes tab, it noted how to get it: "Profession: Pandaria Alchemy. Discovery: Other Pandaria Alchemy Recipes."

I think the wording under the Rejuvenation potion listing has given the False Impression that you have to use a recipe that says "other Pandaria alchemy recipes" to obtain Transmute: Living Steel & others like Riddle of Steel, which has the same "other Pandaria alchemy recipes" notation. I tried discovering Transmute: Living Steel by making a large amount of Alchemist's Rejuvenation Potions with no luck, although I discovered several other recipes, until the discoveries seemed to slow/stop when that recipe went Grey. I switched to making potions/flasks/etc that would provide a skill up until level 60, at which point I went back to making the Rejuvenation Potions, to test what other's had said about a "certain skill level" to -discover- T:LS. I did small batches with no luck, leveled 2 points more, tried again, same, 2 more, same, until level 66. Still no T:LS recipe.

I decided to level Alchemy to 70 before trying again with the Alchemist's Rejuvenation Potion. I mixed 2 Master Mana Potions which were still Orange, hit Alchemy Level 68, & Transmute: Living Steel popped! Success!

Note, however, the Master Mana Potion description does NOT say "other Pandaria alchemy recipes". It says instead, "you have a chance to learn additional recipes."

I checked my Unlearned Recipes tab again. I had 4 recipes left to learn, 3 of them stating "other Pandaria alchemy recipes" in their how-to-obtain description. I decided to test acquiring them with a recipe that would provide a skill-up & had a "you have a chance to learn additional recipes" note ONLY.

I mixed Master Mana potions, leveling from AlcLvl70 to 73, at which point Elixir of Peace popped. I gained two more recipes at 74 & 75 and was awarded Zen Master Alchemy. I made 5 more Mana mixes, totaling 10 mixes/20 potions, before the Final Recipe popped, which was Riddle of Steel. This tells me ANY recipe can pop "Transmute: Living Steel", or any other recipe.

The cheapest recipe for discovering more recipes is probably Alchemist's Rejuvenation, but I would recommend gathering what materials you need to Level Alchemy NORMALLY, and simply level up your Profession by making items with a Skill-up all the way to Level 75. If you still don't have whatever recipe you need/want, THEN make a pile of whatever. I leveled from Lvl 1 to 75, Discovered Every Recipe (but one), and only had to make a handful more potions over Lvl 75 to acquire that last Recipe.

TLDR; Level Pandarian Alchemy NORMALLY, gaining Skill points all the way to 75. You'll discover almost every single Recipe with no extra effort, including Transmute: Living Steel. If you are still missing ANY recipes when you hit Zen Master, keep making any flavor potion you want until you discover them.

Commentaire de xLunacyx

I managed to learn it when hitting Pandaria Alchemy 60 making elixir of mirrors until green then master mana potions to 60-75.

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Transmutation : acier vivant

Transmutation : acier vivant

3 s d'incantation	1 jour de recharge

Outils:

Pierre philosophale

Composants:

Barre de trillium (6)

Chaque fois que vous effectuez cette transmutation, vous avez une chance d’apprendre des recettes supplémentaires.

Le nombre de recettes que vous pouvez apprendre est limité par votre compétence en Alchimie.

Des transmutations de cette magnitude ne peuvent être effectuées qu’une fois par jour.

Métier : Alchimie de Pandarie
Découverte : Autres recettes d’alchimie de Pandarie

Acier vivant
Niveau d'objet 30
Composant d'artisanat

Empilement maxi: 1000

Prix de Vente: 36

Composants

	Barre de trillium (6)
	Fonte du trillium (6)
	Minerai de trillium noir (12)
	Minerai de trillium blanc (12)
	Transmutation : barre de trillium (6)
	Barre d'ectofer (60)
	Fonte de l’ectofer (60)
	Minerai d'ectofer (120)
	Création de minerai d’ectofer (120)
	Pépite d'ectofer (1200)

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Catégorie GCD

n/d

Coût

Aucun

Portée

0 mètres (Soi-même)

Incantation

3 secondes

Recharge

1 jour

GCD

0 secondes

Effet

Create Item

	Acier vivant

Transmutation : acier vivant

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