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Commentaire de Burseg

Inflige relativement peu de dégâts (vu son coût en runes) si vous ne l'avez pas améliorée en spécialisation sang (). Un glyphe majeur permet d'augmenter les dégâts de 25% supplémentaire, mais requiert de gérer finement sa puissance runique (Glyphe carbonisé).

Soigne (à condition d'avoir posé toutes vos maladies) :
15% de votre vie en spécialisation sang (avec )
15% de votre vie également en spécialisation impie (avec la maladie supplémentaire )
10% seulement en spécialisation givre.

Compte tenu de ses faible dégâts (hors spécialisation sang + glyphe) il est déconseillé de s'en servir comme frappe principale. N'hésitez cependant pas à l'utiliser à la place de votre frappe normale ( en spé Givre et en spé Impie) si vous êtes très bas en vie et qu'il n'y a pas de soigneur à disposition.

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Commentaire de Polkarama

Ultimate farming skill?

Commentaire de Thenoc

This is great for reducing down time when leveling, and can be used very well in PvP:
When fighting 2 enemies, killing 1 with Death Strike not only get you rid of a scource of dammage done to you but also reduces the disadvantage you have HP-wise to that second player. Or it just gets you back in the fight quicker with more HP, which could mean you have some extra Runic Power when the fight starts.

Commentaire de dandyman

This spell seems extremely weak unless it kills a target, as it does a flat 60% weapon damage, and if you're using it for damage you would be better of with using obliterate or plague strike, but this is very situational.

Commentaire de btLyger

This spell is useful for a few reasons.

1. Multible mob situation and you are low life.

2. You are not blood spec and you dont have talents like Vendetta to regen your life reducing downtime.

3. You are only fighting one mob.

However, in most cases while level 58-68 deathknights will find leveling quite easy, because of the deathknights aoe skills as well as lack of down time. Although this spell helps reduce downtime, most deathknights find themselves at full life spamming death and decay and vendetta + blood aura healing them to full.

EDIT: This spell may have been changed in the upcoming build. Death rune mastery now states "Whenever you use A death strike, there is a 30/60/100% chance the Frost and Unholy runes will become deathrunes when they activate." A death strike is weird wording, but it seems like deathstrike will be 1 Frost 1 Unholy rune in the upcoming beta build.

Commentaire de BBQMeister

a bit like a warlock's http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=47827, does damage regardless, however if they die it returns the shard, or health in this case

Commentaire de echowa

also with blood talents this has a chance to summon little cute worms which also heal you so its been made nicely into a affective move with other features if speced in bloodworm for it
edit: they removed the blood worms from this ability shame but it did seam to nice o well still nice since 100% heal for each diseases gona be nice

Commentaire de Jasoun

Just like echowa said, judging by the current official talent preview, Death Strike has been made so much more worthwhile thanks to them remworking Infested Corpse (and renaming to just Blood Worms), so that Death Strike has an (up to) 60% chance to summon 3-5 of the Blood Worms. That means means alot; just think about the possibilities of it during long boss fights + the improved Blood Aura that also heals everyone else for the same amount they heal you.

Commentaire de frmorrison

Currently this heals you much more than likely intended.

However, the flavor of the ability is there, this is an attack that will heal you based on the number of diseases up.

Commentaire de smdante

Currently in Beta this uses 1 blood 1 unholy, not 10 runic power.

Commentaire de d3nyd

If you're playing a DK, this will quickly become one of your favorite attacks. With 3 diseases up and this critting, you're just about back to full health.

Commentaire de Ramsay

(As of beta build 9138, last checked 26th Oct 2008)

The formula for the healing value as I put it on WoWWiki goes as follows:

h = 0.5nx + x

Where:

h = total amount healed
x = damage done by the strike
n = amount of disease on the target

So for each disease on the target the strike does half, 50%, the damage of the base damage of the ability. Thus the percentage in the tooltip is 50%.

So if the ability hit for 300, and the target had 3 diseases on it, then the heal would be:

h = 0.5 * 3 * 300 + 300 = 750

The heals from crits work the same way. As the base damage doubles, the heal doubles.

Commentaire de korvhuve

yay for maths :D

Commentaire de coriaga

I've never played a death knight, but 750 heal for 300 damage strike seems hell of a lot!

Commentaire de Tildy

Well, you're using one of the key "FU" (Frost+Unholy) abilities to get that health. You could choose instead a higher damage alternative, but this is an option if health is premium.

Commentaire de p3ac3lov3r

This ability will be awesome in a blood build with

Viscious Strikes (unholy, tier 1)
Might of Mograine (blood)
Vampiric Blood (blood)

with crits being at x2.75

with Vampiric Blood and 100 runic power with Glyph of Death Strike and with 2 diceases on the target that healing would be:

*140%]*140%]*150%]*200%
on NON criticals

lets say wep dmg 1000 for a round number =

600+178.2= 778.2 - Death Strike base damage
140% of 778.2 = 1089.48 - Glyph of Death Strike dmg bonus
140% of 1089.48 = 1525.272 - Glyph of Death Strike healing bonus
150% of 1525.272 = 2287.908 - Vampiric Blood bonus
200% of 2287.908 = 4575.816 - 2 diceases on target

4576 healing with a 778 hit...

now criticals it wold be a 4576*2,75 = 12 583
12583 heal for a 2140(778.2*2,75) death strike critical strike

After looking at these numbers my mouth said :O

Note: This will only work with 100 runic power, Glyph of Death Strike, 2 diceases on target, Vampiric Blood popped, the talents: Might of Mograine, Viscious Strikes and1000 wep dmg,
if u have more than 1000 wep dmg this number will increase
There has not been taken armor into account
The more armor your target has the less dmg and healing this ability will do

In case that I have miscalculated, please correct me
And please, call me a geek if you want

Commentaire de boods

You're a geek. :P

But thanks for putting it in perspective. That's alot of healing. Sounds like DKs might be able to solo alot of group quests that previously only Druids and Paladins could do with ease.

and I just bought the Glyph :)

Commentaire de skribs

Also, in a spec without annihilation, howling blast, or scourge strike (likely a blood spec) this is the only FU ability that will not consume diseases. Not to mention giving you death runes with Death Rune Mastery. This means a blood DK can choose to opt out of diseases, or feed death strike into rotations.

Commentaire de p3ac3lov3r

Hysteria doesnt increase healing by 30%, but it takes 30% of your total health, but increasing physichal dmg by 20% as well
Its an increase to dmg still, so you will get 20% more dmg and healing

Death Strike heals for 100% of dmg done per dicease, http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=43944 - just scroll down a bit and you will all see

And I think I did my math wrong in my first comment here, cause I used the 40% for glyph of death strike twice, 1 for healing and 1 damage, but with a such high number, it will only heal for a couple of thousands less and im too lazy to correct it

Commentaire de ninjaofnight

Combine this with Glyph of Death Strike and you have got a chance for 2500 healing, this coming from me on my lvl 63 death knight with frost fever and blood plague on the target, 100 runic power, and a crit with death strike. the ultimate self healing ability imo. crits fairly well

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43827

Commentaire de VegaSec

Would just like to add if you want to add to disease factoring skills like Blood/Death/Heart/Plague/Scourge Strike, Blood-Caked Blade, and Obliterate you can use "Gift of Arthas".

Even though the effect is weak: Shadow Resistance 10 and 30% chance that if a mob hits you it contracts a disease that increases dmg taken by 8. Lasts 3min.

It shines in that it adds to a DKs dmg just by it being a disease :) So thats Disease x4 for us Unholy 8D

Commentaire de VegaSec

Commentaire de Noobinater

guys read wat it says "heals the Death Knight for a percent of damage done for each of <his/her> diseases on the target." so this isnt just put diseases, damage them and get healed for such a great amount, it only heals you for the % of damage your diseases, so u gatta have to let your diseases last abit so u can get da full effect of this ability. i dont know if da disease finished before casting this that'll heal u afterwards. so my guess is dat unholy knights would have better heals before thier diseases end and blood would have better constant heals. all dat math gone to waste

Commentaire de niemassacre

Sadly, it's been reported that only your skill diseases count for "diseases on target" (so only Blood Plague, Frost Fever and, if you have it, Crypt Fever/Ebon Plague).

Commentaire de Tolarian

Instead of:

h = 0.5nx + x

It may be more clear to use:

h = (0.5n+1)x

This gives us the following table:

Diseaseṣ̣̣̣ . . .Coefficient
0 - - - - - - - - - - 1.0
1 - - - - - - - - - - 1.5
2 - - - - - - - - - - 2.0
3 - - - - - - - - - - 2.5
4 - - - - - - - - - - 3.0

Commentaire de matrixm

I just did some testing on a training dummy in ebon hold. My damage from Death Strike was 282, the healing from Death Strike on me was 705. Doing the math, it was a 2.5 difference indicating that Crypt Fever/Ebon Plague do indeed count as a third disease on the target.

Commentaire de brawndo4u

ok this is simple.
0 diseases = 0 healing
1 disease = 50% death strike dmg in healing
2 diseases = 100% death strike dmg in healing
3 diseases = 150% death strike dmg in healing
and so on...
cake n piie

Commentaire de luee

It's nice to see all of you guys showing these formulae and such, and they make sense, however in my experience death strike will do NO healing if the target has no diseases. might wanna mention that. i'm sure with 3 diseases on itll heal for 2.5x the damage. but no diseases, no healing.

This is just as far as i've noticed, correct me if i'm wrong please

Commentaire de Daeis

Okay, this one confuses me. Sometimes it heals me for 350-450 hp, other times it goes upwards of 1100 hp. Does it heal more the longer the diseases are on the target, or what? o.O

Commentaire de kymechu

This spell isn't affected by runic power. The healing is, however, proportional to the number of diseases on the target.

Commentaire de fireflower

The spell *can be* affected by runic power, depending on whether or not the player is using the (major) Glyph of Death Strike.

If you had 100 runic power the damage and heal value of Death Strike would be increased by 40%.

That said, yes, with or without that glyph Death Strike heals for more depending how many diseases are on a target. Most Death Knights only have access to two diseases; if one of them isn't up, Death Strike's healing is gimped, whereas Unholy-spec Death Knights can have 3 diseases and would thus get more healing from Death Strike.

I wonder if Devouring Plague (the Priest spell, flagged as a disease) will also cause Death Strike's healing to be magnified.

Commentaire de Arkham

I wonder if Devouring Plague (the Priest spell, flagged as a disease) will also cause Death Strike's healing to be magnified.

Considering that the tooltip says "heals the Death Knight for a percent of damage done for each of <his/her> diseases on the target" I'm guessing it does not.

Commentaire de papagos

i agree..u cant use death strike to heal if u choose to dmg the target or the opposite...(at least not until the refreshment of runes(1 frost 1 unholy))so its not overpowered as i hear. Simply u choose to heal or dmg...not both

Commentaire de scarroll9

It seems that Death strike is obviously still healing for like 2x the damage done regardless of diseases if it lands the killing blow. i just killed a yeti while levelling up skinning with nod iseases, it was the only strike i used, it hit for like 2700 and healed me for mid 4ks

Commentaire de Wildhorn

Rate down the comment above. Information is way outdated.

Death strike heal for 100% per disease and 50% for ebon plague, so a possible maximum heal of 250% damage (+glyph of course).

Commentaire de smiley001

The tooltip for this ability could use some editing, since its quite unclear and seems to have many people confused.

I'll try to clarify;

If your target has no diseases, this ability deals only damage. If your target has one disease, you receive 150% of your damage done as a healing effect. With each additional disease this amount grows by 50%, limited to 250% due to the maximum of 3 diseases on the target.

On a sidenote; often you will find more people commenting on the highest rank of things using multiple ranks :)

Commentaire de 7598462153

Actually, Bloodworms now procs from all weapon hits, including this ability.

Commentaire de 7598462153

With regards to Death Strike being a killing blow, it also seems to do healing based on the damage it "would" have done - so if you're trying to regen health, don't be afraid to use it on a low-health mob.

Commentaire de illidoth

Icy touch + Plague Strike + Death strike on ONE mob = about 600 health (level 63 dk)

Icy touch + Plague Strike + Pestilence on TWO mobs = 1200 health ^_^

Commentaire de nisx

Today this spell healed me for 10341 with 2 deseases + the glyph at 100RP.Unholy specc.

Commentaire de noggin

Copied from my Blood Boil comment and relevant to this spell as well...

I freakin love this spell...

When soloing with deep unholy (51+ unholy, sub-80)... (With ghoul summoned) Bone Shield, mount, round up about 10 melee mobs (grip a caster if there is one; stop by one and grip the other if there are two), Death and Decay, Icy Touch, Blood Plague, Pestilence, Blood Tap, Blood Boil, Death Strike, Scourge Strike, Blood Boil, Blood Boil. Ice-bound Fortitude as soon as I can see things are hitting harder than expected. Then Death Strike and Icy Touch til everything's dead to heal and build RP for the next round. Keep in mind it's absolutely critical to keep melee mobs in front of you since you can't doge or parry hits from behind. A single melee mob behind you can be the difference between decimating a pack of mobs and dying. Luckily, with Shadow of Death, if things do get out of control, I can almost always finish everything off while ghouled and loot the corpses with time to spare.

With the rare exception that I agro one too many casters that are outside my AoE range or one too many mobs with a knockback, I can pretty easily do this rotation and end up with full health and some RP to start the next pack without stopping... with the occasional bandage for me and my ghoul. When I saw occasional, I mean I maxed my First Aid before 60 and have yet to use my second full stack of heavy netherweave, and have not yet used one whole stack of food without throwing some away for the next bracket of food. Very occasional.

Below 80, I use glyphs of Death Strike (up to 40% increase in DS healing - on a crit I can go from almost dead to almost full health), Death and Decay, Pestilence, and Horn of Winter (for lack of second useful minor glyph). With Glyph of Death Strike, doing packs of mobs like this, I minimize my use of RP to maximize my healing, so I'll hold off on the Unholy Blight unless I know I won't need to heal myself or I have a healer with me (then i hit UB on almost every pull).

In instances with a healer (sub-80, with ghoul summoned)... Bone Shield, Unholy Blight if RP is maxed, grip a caster or range DPS, Death and Decay (with myself at the far back of it to maximize how long mobs are inside it), Icy Touch, Plague Strike (the rest of the pack is in melee range now), Pestilence, Blood Tap, Blood Boil, Scourge Strike, Blood Boil, Blood Boil. Then Icy Touch and Plood Plague to finish things off and build RP for an Unholy Blight on the next round or to pop the gargoyle on a boss if that's the next pull.

I consistently do 40%+ of a group's total damage while tanking in Frost Presence, rarely losing the top spot on a per-fight basis to a very well geared and experienced mage or lock (but still out-damaging for the overall length of the instance). That's 50%+ if I'm not tanking and get to use Blood Presence.

Commentaire de Drenvion

Seeing as it hasn't really been mentioned: Death Strike's healing part is based on the damage, therefore should you hit a target that is either Immune or Asorbs that damage, it wont give you any healing.

It will only heal for the set percentage the guys have listed above, of the actual damage you do.

For maximum healing effect on critical hit it's wise to get Vicious Strikes and, if you're Blood, also Might of Mograine that you would have taken anyway. I have no idea how these stack, guessing additively though, making it a 75% increased critical damage, a total of 275% on critical.

That aside I think Unholy is the one that can get the highest heals from Death Strike on nonecriticals as Blood would have to increase the healing from Death Strike by 50% to be on par with the extra disease that Unholy recieves.

Vampiric Blood increases the healing of Death Strike by 50%, if it then becomes 250% for two diseases or 300% (50% of 200% = 100%) I don't know.

Commentaire de Remord

PATHETIC DKS NERF OR ........ YOUR MUM!

Commentaire de illidoth

Summoned Dancing Rune Weapon + 1 Icy Touch + 1 Plague Strike = 2 Frost Fever and 2 Blood Plague on a target at once (soloing)

Commentaire de jiveturtle

Currently, on 3.1 PTR, with 2/2 Improved Death Strike (Tier 8 Blood), increases to 78% weapon damage + 231.

If you take 2/2 RPM with the current PTR glyph (back to 2% per 5 RP increase in damage), it will max out at 118.56% weapon damage + 352, if you try to use it at the end of your rotation.

Compare to glyphed Oblit at 120% + 700, (although Oblit gets further bonuses from the H Naxx sigil). Keep in mind that DS heals you, as well, possibly substantially if you've got Vamp Blood up.

Deep blood tanks, if there are any left out there, may now prefer this in some situations to Oblit when tanking, although it takes quite a bit to get it there.

If these changes don't make live, please downrate this into oblivion.

Commentaire de Zentro

Alot of people seem to have alot of confusion with this spell. After some testing it is quite simple.

It heals you for an amount equal to the damage it deals, multiplied by the number of YOUR diseases on the target (only up to two).

Commentaire de wowelderscrolls

Let's take a look at all the changes related to this ability that may (or may not since this is the PTR) be coming in 3.1:

- Might of Mograine in Blood tree is being reduced to 30% increased crit damage, down from 45%.

- Improved Death Strike is a new talent in Blood tree.

-Glyph of Death Strike is supposed to be having its tooltip corrected to what it currently says in the Glyphs pane of the Spellbook in patch 3.0.9.

-Runic Power Mastery is now a 2-point tier 1 talent in Frost.

Previously in patch 3.0.9, Unholy tree had the highest death strike healing because of its third disease from Crypt Fever. As we already know, 3 diseases mean 250% of death strike's damage is a self heal. With 2 diseases, that number is reduced to 200%. With this new talent however, even with only 2 diseases on the target, Blood DKs will be healing about 10% more with their death strike on normal hits than Unholy DKs. 30% extra damage to death strike means that it will turn into 60% extra healing because of the 200% modifier multiplied with the 30% extra damage, for a total of 260% healing. Not only that, while Unholy DKs only get 250% healing from death strike with three diseases on the target, Crypt Fever also doesn't boost the damage of death strike. This new talent in blood boosts the damage as well as give more healing than Unholy due to the extra damage. You cannot get Crypt Fever if you are that deep in blood, and because there are plenty of talents in blood that increase death strike's critical strike chance and damage, (Might of Mograine, Dark Conviction, and Bloody Vengeance to name a few)

Blood DKs will actually find a lot of reason to use this over Obliterate. If you are a Blood DK, you will generally want to keep your diseases on the target to keep using Heart Strike. So that means if you want to consistently use Obliterate, you would need to spend 13 points in Frost just for Annihilation. In my opinion, it is not worth 13 talent points just to make one ability somewhat more useful in a Blood spec. I could do some math on how much damage Obliterate and Death Strike would do using the same Blood spec, but I'd rather not have my post go on forever. :)

Commentaire de Lyssardia

Best case I can see (comparing Blood/Frost Obliterate build to Blood/Unholy Death Strike build) is the following (based on build 9637, includes Obliterate going from +damage to +% per disease).

B/F on Obliterate;

Gives 116% weapon damage + 677.44 (Assumes; 2 diseases up and glyph)
+17% crit (Subv, DC and Anni) with 230% (MoM) on crit

B/U on Death Strike;

Gives 109% of weapon damage + 324 (Assumes; 130RP, iDS and glyph)
+11% crit (VS and DC) with 260% (VS and MoM) on crit

I'm against having such a single ability comparison done in isolation without considering whole build effects from the secondary Unholy having things like more sudden death/+deathcoil damage (Morbidity), Necrosis and BCB on auto attacks and secondary Frost having Annihilation (+3% melee specials crit), +20% frost damage and +20% haste (if you go far enough for Icy Talons) as well as the downstream effects on the necessary ability rotations though, I feel it makes drawing any conclusions from this one facet dubious at best.

Commentaire de QQubicle

Conclusion: Use Death Strike?

Commentaire de Lyssardia

Following patch 3.1, Death Strike looks like it is going to be (approx, in primary Blood spec, based on 14th of March PTR)

116% weapon damage + 646 (iDS + Glyph + MoM + 2 diseases up) with +11% crit (5% DC + 6% iDS) + 45% crit bonus (MoM)

So it looks like Death Strike is intended for Blood, Obliterate is intended for Frost (Annihilation and GoG) and Scourge Strike for Unholy (VS and Outbreak). Of course "intended" and/or "appears" is not "must" so your YMMV, any spec would probably hit Death Strike when they want to heal themselves.

Death strike is fluctuating wildly on a build by build basis, wonder where it will land?

Commentaire de Dragonassasin

Yeah as a 75 unholy dk with the 3 diseases on i typically get healing of 1.3k -2k every deathstrike, if i crit i get heals in 3-4 area. the most usefull thing for me while questing leaves me with no downtime, if im running low on health instead of fighting a big group i fight one guy for a fight or two and i am healed back full. i find it essential in my combat macros

Commentaire de Dongolev

Works well with a Death Striker.

EDIT: Seriously, it's a joke.

Commentaire de NightmareMJ

hotfixed today, only healing at most 800 health(on crit, but not crit heal).......just yesterday it was healing me for 1300-6K health, i have no way of regaining health now in lowbie instances. sigh.

Commentaire de Bareno

This being my main... this only heals now for... As unholy...

Hits for 950~ non crit, heals for ~410, than it hits for around ~2k crit, ~950 heal...

Seriously blizzard, SERIOUSLY?

EDIT: Must be an bug, according to This forum post...

After doing some tests, the results on Death Strike are as follows:

0 Diseases on the target = 0% Damage to Health
1 Disease on the target = 40% Damage to Health
2 Diseases on the target = 40% Damage to Health
3 Diseases on the target = 40% Damage to Health

Death Strike Rank 5 at Level 80 tool tip (no talents):
A deadly attack that deals 75% weapon damage plus 538 and heals the Death Knight for an amount based on the damage done and the number of diseases on the target.

Currently Death Strike only heals you if you have 1 disease on the target and does not take into account any additional disease you may have on the target.

WTB HOTFIX!

Commentaire de synthetique

It was hotfixed. It now does 20% healing per disease.

(Not sure why this was downrated. Writing the truth on a site where people come for info is good, not bad.)

Commentaire de skywyze

Used to heal for about 5-15k per hit for me. Now heals for 400-500 on average, with two diseases up. Methinks Bliz went a little overboard on the nerfs.

Rune of the Fallen Crusader will heal you for more on a long fight than constantly spamming Death Strike. That's kinda sad.

Commentaire de sindragosa

615 hit, 135 heal, with one disease up, used to be like 1000+, thats kinda sad
plz blizzard learn to balance, without overbuffing, or overnerfing

Commentaire de CrazyPete316

Its pretty much useless to have death strike heal now, it used to heal me on a crit for 9k which was a bit overpowered, but now I am lucky to heal for 2k. The point of it healing is to help the DK survive, but thats just useless considering the recharge rate on runes to survive anything not easy for you to kill period. It make it fair it need to do at least twice its current healing to be anywhere near useful, otherwise they should remove the healing effect and make another more useful effect.

Commentaire de holyedge

At the time of this post, I'm noticing its healing me for exactly 10% of my max hp maximum, no matter how much dmg I'm doing. Apparently its working on 5% max hp Healing per disease. This is at the exact moment of posting this, blood specced tank with 30939 max hp.

1 disease up = 1096 hit = 1546 Healing
1 disease up = 1247 hit = 1547 healing
2 disease up = 2245 crit = 3046 healing
2 disease up = 1578 hit = 3046 healing

I sure hope they leave it like that, its perfectly balanced imho.

Commentaire de synthetique

Quotes from Ghostcrawler about the nerf and rebuff:
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/16473608683-death-strike-healing-nerf.html

Commentaire de despyz

Death Strike now heals 5% of the death knight's health per disease on the target, up to a max of 15%. This should allow Frost and Unholy to benefit from Death Strike healing while letting Blood benefit from extra Death Strike damage. The tooltip will not reflect this change until we can patch the client.

source - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16473608683&sid=1&pageNo=26

The healing from Death Strike can no longer critically heal, but I think thats okay.

This will help out a lot more for tanks, DK's leveling, soloing old raids, PvP, etc. This is better than it was pre-3.1 and before the hot-fix. It's perfectly balanced now in my opinion

Commentaire de chriz2fer

Funny how you mention "soloing old school raids"

I don't think that's exactly intended by Blizzard for only one class (well maybe two I guess if Pallies can too) can solo Onyxia and Hakkar, etc.

You can't be surprised this was nerfed.

Bury meh comment to oblivion now

Commentaire de Marsolas

It is confirmed that Death Strike now heals for a percentage of your total maximum health. 1 Disease will heal 5%, 2 diseases will heal 10% and 3 will heal 15%.

Commentaire de Jeckzor

I'm just wondering, but as a tank, this strike heals me for about 5k, that's very nice and stuff, but do I get extra threat from the heal, or not? Because if so, that'd be totally awesome.

Plx reply

Commentaire de Simore

Wild Deathknight appears lvl 69!

Go Mage lvl 69!

Mage uses Polymorph...

Wild Deathknight uses Anti Magic shell!

Wild Deathknight is immune to your Polymorph!

Wild Deathknight Uses Deathstrike!

Deathstrike Is super Effective 4000! dmg!

Deathknight uses Meele swing!

Meele swing criticaly hits Mage for 2000!

Mage Faints!

Commentaire de Fuzzled

Incorrect. Healing done generates "0.5 threat" (in terms of damage.)

A heal of 5000 would result in +2500 threat (before multipliers, Frost Presence etc.)

Commentaire de darktigers

May have been changed since this was posted, but DS heals for a static percentage that is 5% max health for each disease on the target, and has nothing to do with the damage of the Death Strike.

Commentaire de Aomknight

New Tool Tip

A deadly attack that deals 75% weapon damage plus 84 and heals the Death Knight for 5% of <his/her> maximum health for each of <his/her> diseases on the target.

All information posted above is now not useful do to people not updating their comments when the next patch hits. If you have one of YOUR diseases on the target, and you death strike, it heals you for 5% of your maximum health. If two of YOUR diseases are on the target you get 10%. Im not sure if the diseases from unholy talents will also increase it.

Commentaire de Aomknight

Also note that the glyph now increases damage.

Commentaire de Aomknight

The information posted above is now not useful do to people not updating their comments when the next patch hits. The glyph increases damage, not healing.

Commentaire de ZanathKariashi

I'm mixed about the new Death strike. The increased damage is nice, but the healing is waaay too low. In it's base form it works pretty good. But I think they need to increase the healing bonus from the imp DS talent. It's almost at the bottom, and the extra 50% healing makes it the same as an unholy DK with 3 diseases would gain. Blood DK's should be able to get up to at least 20% hp maybe even 25. Blood is ALL about healing and minimal downtime. As it is now, assuming they're in Blood presence they only get a tiny increase in healing over an Unholy DK.

Yes, I do agree the old DS with glyph was way OP'd. I was able to effortless solo every 5 man quest I came across, usually 2-3 lvls under the mobs lvl. Even on a glancing blow it would restore a fair amount of health, and on crits More then if not all my HP.

Even if they lowered the weapon damage to 80-85%, I think it would be worth it. Or buff the health recovery of imp blood presence. A total of 8-10% damage wouldn't be bad. Blood's resilence in battle, especially endurance battles, was what originally drew me to the spec.

Commentaire de hashmel

you do realize you're a dps/tank class and can already solo more than should be allowed simply because you have the ability to heal 10-15% max health about twice every 10 seconds but you want to buff it more?

Commentaire de Carighan

I find Unholy Tanks underuse Death Strike.

Sure, I can understand why Frost Tanks may not want to use it: Not only does it only heal for 10%, but it also doesn't proc stuff like Obliterate does. But for Unholy it heals the same 15% it does for Blood, only the damage is much lower.

But if you got enough threat lead, why not withhold some F/U runes, and heal up right after the enemy blows? It's not like you need the threat if you got 2x that of your DPSers, do you?
And if you don't? Well then forget about Death Strike and use maximum-output. But if you got the threat to spare, do your Healers the favour and selfheal a bit - it's nearly as strong as for Blood.

Commentaire de Rankkor

at first I was quite upset about the nerf to DS, but now that I think of it, it is not that big a deal.

Blood Spec is all about healing, and we still have the most robust self-healing on the game, when vendetta+rune tap+bloodworms+mark of blood+vamp blood+2 death strikes on each rotation are mixed up u get a quite durable tank.

let's not forget that the new improved blood presence increases all healing by 10%.

also keep in mind the glyph of diseace, wich didn't existed back when DS was damage-based for the heals.

what's so important about that? you had to reinfect the target on each rotation, wich means= spend 1 frost rune, and 1 unholy to infect, and 1 frost & unholy to DS, after their cooldown is over, if you had the unholy talent that increases diseace duration, you could DS twice, and that's it, on the next rotation u only get 1 DS since again u gotta reinfect the target.

the glyph of diseace is so awesome that you don't need the unholy talent, you infect the target once, and DS, on the next round, and all rounds after it, you can DS twice each rotation, since 1 blood rune is enough to reinfect the target with their diseaces.

esentially this means, every 10 secs you get back 20% of your total health, and this heal is increased by improved blood presence, and vamp blood, not to add the reg healing you get by blood presence, plus bloodworm procs, plus rune-taps, plus mark of blood, plus vendetta.

blood-specced DK's are still the most insane self-healing toons in the whole game, any DK who still wanna complain about it simply doens't deserves the title of Death Knight.

as blood-specced DK I can still trow myself at a group of 10+ mobs in icecrown, and take 'em all down without getting lower than 40% HP, that is quite unfair to other classes that break apart when they fight more than 5 at the same time.

I can only pray that blizz leaves blood spec exactly how it is now. since after all the nerfs, I finnaly think blood is perfectly balanced, it's not OP; and it's not gimped, it's perfectly fine IMO.

Commentaire de Xoseptember

is the healing crit chanced also based off melee crit? or or based off the spell crit chance?

in other words, would adding agility to increase my crit rating help with my death strike's crit heal?

Commentaire de Zanarkand

Fyi:

If it kills a target that grants experience or honor, Death Strike will always heal you for at least 5% (7.5% if improved) of your maximum health.
You do not need any diseases on the target to benefit from this heal.
It also does not increase healing received if you do have any diseases active, meaning 15% (Blood and Unholy) and 10% (Frost and untalented) max health are the maximum amount of healing you may receive from this ability.

This is omitted from the tooltip, but easily tested.

I presume this is a leftover effect from the time when Death Strike only healed if it killed the target.

Commentaire de Esylor

Actually its no longer a % of dmg done, it used to be however. Now its much more simpler:
Death strike + 0 diseases = only dmg
Death Strike + 1 disease = dmg to the target + 5% of your Total hp healed
Death Strike + 2 diseases = dmg to the target + 10% of your total hp healed(5% per disease)
Death strike reaches its optimum heal potential by having 3 diseases(unholy's crypt fever) totaling 15% of max hp healed
OR
getting the blood talent Improoved death strike which increased the bonus hp% per disease.
I hope it helped :)

Commentaire de abyss56

I tried testing this and it doesn't work that way for me. No diseases, no healing. I took a mob down to ~100 HP and used diseaseless DS and no healing happened. You sure you don't have Vendetta + imp Blood Prescence?

Commentaire de Nimmersatt

So far, for Cata, damage has been increased from 75% WD to 150% WD. Part of this can be explained by the lack of damage boosting talents as shown below while the rest has to do undoubtedly with the new rune system, however it seems that most of this damage boost is due to it being a tanking ability. Patches 4.06 and 4.3 confirmed this, making it the DK hard-hitting cooldown ability like Shield Slam or Shield of Righteousness, giving bonus crit to the equation too. The way this heals and the amount of healing has been changed drastically. During Wrath, healing was based on how many diseases were up on the target, you were healed 5% of your maximum health per disease. Blood DKs got talents which upped the healing by 50% allowing them to self-heal as if they had 3 diseases up, for 15% of their maximum health.

However for cata, you are healed for a minimum of 7% of your maximum health (10.15% talented) and a maximum of 20% (29% talented), with diseases no longer being an issue. Furthermore, Blood Shield has been added for tanking, which absorbs additional physical damage scaling with mastery. In short, it heals less now, even talented, however it deals significantly more damage and, for tanking, applies a physical damage absorption buff.

LK:
75% Base
97.50--30% Improved Death Strike
116.25--25% Glyph of Death Strike
123.75--10% Blood Gorged HP
130.50--9% Bloody Vengeance
133.50--4% Two-Handed Weapon Specialization
135.75--3% Blood Gorged Armor Penetration (boss armor reducing damage by 30%)
158.41--15% Blood Presence

Cata:
150.0%--Base
330.0%--120% Improved Death Strike
390.0%--40% Glyph of Death Strike
393.0--2% Bone Shield (max for Tanking)
432.3--10% Frost Presence

All in all, a 189.50% increase in damage without Blood/Frost Presence and a 172.90% increase with Blood/Frost Presence. The mechanics of the new glyph seem to be an incentive to maximize RP generation and keep as full of a RP bar as you can, meaning that you should spec into both Scent of Blood and Runic Power Mastery (though avoid Butchery as it's not worth it). Because of how the glyph is designed, your damage ranges from 330% WD (333% with Bone Shield) with 0 Runic Power when cast to the above listed 390% (393%with Bone Shield) with a full 100 (or 130, you get no bonus for over 100).

Edit #1: updated glyph information

Edit #2: updated glyph information

Edit #3: Massive recalculations, given the bonuses effect only the base damage and not the bonus' stacked

Edit #4: Updated for patch 4.06

Edit #5: Updated for patch 4.3

Commentaire de Nimmersatt

I corrected my above calculations, however it seems we were both wrong. With all modifiers applied including Blood/Frost Presence, Death Strike hits 69.46% harder in Cata than in LK.

Commentaire de Sacrosterion

How will the healing work on this ability?

Commentaire de loik

If you use Death Strike, 30% of all damage dealed 5 seconds after using Death strike will be converted into life, and if your damage does not heal you for a minimum of 10% of your total life, you will be healed for 10% of your total health.

Edit:

Say you have 50.000 Health, and your Death Strike will thus always heal for AT LEAST 5000
Now you spec into Blood, and get Improved Death Strike

Your Death Strike will now heal for at least 7250 (or 14.5% of your total health), and will give you a Blood Shield which in this case give you a 3625 absorption shield (50% of the amount healed).

Now imagine you are tanking, and you are struck for 3000, 5000, and 2000 and within 5 seconds you land a successful Death Strike.

Now we go back to what happened: You took 10.000 damage within a 5 second time frame, and performed a Death Strike which landed (e.g not dodged/missed/parried etc). 30% of 10000 = 3000. But your normal Death Strike will heal for 7250.

So in this case your basic Death Strike will outheal the *scale-with-damage* Death Strike.

So after that Death Strike you are granted a 3625 Blood Shield but then are hit for 40.000! So you take 36375 damage (3625 absorbed) and perform yet another Death Strike!

30% of 36375 damage =10913. Which is more then your basic Death Strike heals for (7250), so in this case you are healed 10913 and granted a 5456 absorb shield.

Hope this helped, and was clear enough.

My head hurts XD

Commentaire de loik

healing you for 30% of the damage you have sustained during the preceding 5 sec
Actually, that's 5 seconds BEFORE you use Death Strike.
So if you take 50,000 damage in the past 5 seconds, then use Death Strike, you'd gain 15k health.

Em no. I think that's impossible xD

Commentaire de Kaylthas

"healing you for 30% of the damage you have sustained during the preceding 5 sec (minimum of at least 10% of your maximum health)"

This pretty much seem like a Nerf to DK soloing old content.

Old content mobs will rarey make you lose enough health for the healing to be worthwhile.

Any thoughts?

Commentaire de Derren

I was always using deathstrike while soloing/questing,keep my hp up but with the new changes DS is now really crappy.

Commentaire de lolomghax

You a dumb and did not read my post.

I highly suggest you do

Commentaire de vexitbqf

Death strike doesnt require diseases to get the heal anymore.

Commentaire de tr00dudu

ok, so as far as i can understand, my old DS (lets pretend i dont have a talent spec for simplicity) healed me for 5% per disease (which totals to 10% max) while this new one heals me for 10% with or without diseases, but if i got really hurt in last 5sec it can heal me even more?

(its the pre-patch 5% per disease info im not sure about :p yes, my main's a DK and i never bothered to read DS spell completely. only time i did was at lvl 55 and it only said "healing for % of damage dealt" or something similarly indefinite. i tried it, it healed alot and its since then been my favourite panic botton that i spammed when my hp got low... >.>)

Commentaire de loik

But it no longer needs diseases.

Commentaire de Sacrosterion

Someone above commented that he can only use DeathStrike half as often with the new rune system. I must say this is a lie and a half. The rune system is actually quite excellent as long as you keep your runic power abilities being used as much as possible. I am actually now using DeathStrike quite bloody often. If you're soloing or tanking, you will be able to use it most of the time, but if you're dpsing, you won't be able to, but then again, you won't need to. (hopefully) I would say that DeathKnights this patch have seen a really big upgrade this patch. They're almost indestructible >:]

Commentaire de loik

~~Good news everyone! Improved Blood Presence will make Rune Regeneration 15~~ 20% faster! .~~And Blood Presence will make Rune Strike spamable~~! And Rune Strike will only be able to use in Blood presence and increased runic power cost (30), but you no longer need to dodge or parry and obviously it's instant!

Implemented :P
Improved Blood presence

Commentaire de Sacrosterion

Well, if blizzard said that then it's the end of the world of warcraft as we know it D':

Commentaire de loik

Yeah, they said that, but I don't know if they'll implement it.

Commentaire de loik

As said in other post, Blizz changed us from "players who can heal and deal moderate damage" to "killing machines that destroy all in their path but with low heals".
I like that :D

Commentaire de Sacrosterion

Hey, err... the healing is 7% minimum. Well, i was using it, the healing was 3182/3183 all the time. There for that healing is the minimum healing available from that. But, my health (45459) divided by 3182 = 14~% of my health. This is in blood so the only way of it healing more is with IDS.(increases heal of DS by 45%)

7 x 1.45 = 10.15%

Where Does That other 4% Come From! D:

Commentaire de cynria

are you blood?

Commentaire de Sacrosterion

Ah, t'anks for that. I redid my calculations and see where i went wrong.
If i divide 100 by 14 i'll get my percentage of 7.

But...

How does the healing work then?

Tooltip says it'll heal for 7% or 25% of damage taken in the preceding 5 seconds. After i got improved Death strike, the tooltip didn't change, so why aren't i seeing anything?

Commentaire de Druzelmorti

Basic math: 7% * 0.45 = 3.15%. Therefore, the total min heal is 10.15%.

Commentaire de Druzelmorti

3183 / 45459 = 0.070019... or pretty much exactly 7%. Basic math. It heals you for the minimum each time.

Commentaire de alucardou

Now then the question is. If i somehow managed to get hit by 300k dmg within 5 seconds. Would i heal for 100k?

question beaing. Is there a cap?

Commentaire de camcrus

wil this spell cause any threat after next patch? or do i have to use another spell instead of it to cause threat

Commentaire de ArMeDSuRvIvOr

In the ooooold alpha version of Wrath of the Lich King, Death Strike worked differently. It was originally intended to only heal the Death Knight if it was used within 5 seconds of a mob's death, hence the name "Death" Strike. If you used this, and the mob died 7 seconds later, it would deal damage but you wouldn't get a heal.

NOTE: If I recall correctly, it's healing effect used to work like at the start of WotLK, healing you for a percentage of damage done per disease.

Now you know why it is called "DEATH" Strike. :D

EDIT BELOW:

I was just saying that Death Strike's name has a DIRECT correlation to its original, intended purpose, instead of other abilities that do not have anything to do with death.

Take for example Death Grip. It only pulls people to you. No death involved.

Death gate, no death involved, you open a portal to Acherus.

Commentaire de themguyman

actually it 5% of the damage you have done in the past 5 seconds no the damage you have taken because the heal works on the training dummies

Commentaire de mejarema

It is NOT based on damage that you deal. The reason you're getting healed on a dummy is because of the "minimum healing" clause right on the tooltip.

Commentaire de boccko

I am curious about the uses of this, and DK tanks in general on the Baleroc encounter. As the the health of the tank gradually increases here, reaching over 1M by the end of the fight in 10 man, which also means ~100k Vengeance, I wonder how DS will work there?

I'm sure Blizzard took care of DK tanks not to be overpowered in this encounter, but anyway, maybe they still have some space to shine here.

Commentaire de childofnewlight

I agree with you 100%, I think diseases should be required. But that's not the new/easier WoW approach this game seems to be following.

Previously, Death Strike use to heal based on how much damage you did and how many diseases you had on your target. Blizzard retooled it to now only return health based on how much damage you had taken over the last 8 seconds.

Making it ALSO require diseases would make the skill far too moody to use as a DK's primary "mitigation" tool. Its already limited by the fact that if you fail to take a substantial amount of damage over the last 8 seconds it will fail to restore a significant amount of health.

Commentaire de ArMeDSuRvIvOr

I was just saying that Death Strike's name has a DIRECT correlation to its original, intended purpose, instead of other abilities that do not have anything to do with death.

Take for example Death Grip. It only pulls people to you. No death involved.

Death gate, no death involved, you open a portal to Acherus.

Commentaire de QuickBASIC37

Cast on critters between pulls while you're questing instead of eating.

Commentaire de Bogdanov89

Use this AFTER you have received a lot of damage, or if you are significantly wounded.

Unless more DPS is needed, try not to use Death Strike if you are at full health, due to it's self healing being wasted.

The Blood Shields will stack with themselves, so do not worry about overwriting one with another.

Commentaire de Donnosaur

Commentaire de Killianti

It seems that the Death Strike heal cannot crit. I just did 137 DS heals after taking fall damage and all of them healed for the same amount give or take one hp, and I had a little over 10% crit chance.

Commentaire de Xiberion

Its damage has dropped from 330% weapon to 150% ._.
Also no glyph for more damage to it either.

Commentaire de Resented

With the 4.3 change causing Death Strike to heal on attempt instead of on a successful hit, you can use it to heal yourself against immune targets. Very useful for a bit of healing when a Mage pops Ice Block.

Commentaire de Novahelix

The shield this skill gives DOES stack and refresh it's cooldown on use. This means you can get a 100k+ physical absorption shield fairly easily.

Commentaire de MrArson

As of this current patch, it would appear that Death Strike got the axe but hard. Yesterday, I was able to get upwards of 30K criticals, but today, I'm struggling to get one above a 15K crit.
This, along with the general health nerf, may make Blood Spec less viable as a tanking spec. At least for this current patch.

Commentaire de Metak

The small number that appears on Death Strike is Scent of Blood, which increases the healing you recieve with your Death Strike by 20% per stack, up to 5 stacks.

Commentaire de thetwink13

Looks like us blood PvP death knights are getting a brutal nerf in 5.1- Death strikes healing no longer increasing from damage dealt by other players.
I guess a respec is in order now, and might need to get rid of all that mastery I reforged onto my gear...

Commentaire de MrJumpingBean

Sucks that this ability has a animation dedicated to it but is used by different clases, just uses your special move...

Commentaire de dante4478

Is anyone else getting a 18d cooldown randomly on this?

Commentaire de TempName112

Odd that it's blood DKs main ability, yet it costs no blood runes

Commentaire de Cimegs5088

i'm thinking whether to spend death rune on another death strike or death siphon as tank. Any advice?

Commentaire de alanklm

What does the healing value depend on?

Commentaire de Misu

Something that I have not seen mentioned here on the comments yet. Death strike can have a shield equal to the amount of the max health you have.

Commentaire de Pangolin

As of the 7.0 Legion pre-patch this spell is now bound with an all-new and mighty annoying and mismatching screaming voice activating each time you use it. Except for female Taurens.

Commentaire de Pallipwns

This does not seem to heal you if you use it on targets that are immune to damage, (ice block or such) it did before 7.0 but i don't know if this is intended or not. before if you used this on an immune target you would still get the heal from it. but now if you do you use 45 runic power AND it dose not heal you.

Commentaire de rodalpho

The devs told us exactly how this ability works in PvP at the link(s) below.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/20252902

Death Strike now factors in 50% of recent damage taken from players when determining it’s healing amount (previously, it ignored damage taken from players).

Commentaire de glenngull

Is this even WORKING correctly? I cannot count how many times I have died due to this not being available.
It's obvious it depends on SOMETHING in Legion, but the tool tip only mentions melee range. I read here that it's also on a 1.5 sec GCD, but this is not what is happening.
I'm on combat, in melee range, and the stupid thing NEVER POPS!
Is there some secret no one has shared as to how this works? Why is the tool tip completely *!@#ing worthless on this?

Commentaire de ginny

In Legion, the term “Active Mitigation” refers to a single, specific ability that a Tank must use as a “counter” to specific boss abilities.

These boss abilities are designated as “Mitigation Checks”. If you fail to use Active Mitigation against a Mitigation Check, you receive an additional negative side effect, e.g. being flung away by a boss (Dargrul of Neltharion's Lair) or the boss gaining a shield (Tirathon Saltheril in Vault of Wardens).

Here is a list of the Active Mitigation abilities for each Tank Specialization in Legion:

Guardian Druid - Ironfur
Protection Warrior - Shield Block
Protection Paladin - Shield of the Righteous
Vengeance Demon Hunter - Demon Spikes
Brewmaster Monk - Ironskin Brew
Blood Death Knight - Mastery: Blood Shield / Death Strike / Marrowrend

Note. Marrowrend grants Active Mitigation via a short Recently Used Death Strike buff. Bone Shield itself provides no Active Mitigation. Also, unlike all other Tank Specializations' Active Mitigation, Blood Death Knight's abilities are on the global cooldown table ("on the GCD") therefore cannot be used at any time.

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