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Survival Hunter Tomb of Sargeras Guide
Par Deliriad
Dernière mise à jour :
22/06/2018
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Patch : 7.2.5
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Welcome to the Survival Hunter Guide by
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Survival Hunter Boss by Boss Recommended Builds and Tips
The following was compiled by looking at a combination of simulation data, common sense, and log analysis of the top performing hunters. All percentages shown are from the top 25 parses out of the first 200 completions for each boss, in order to ensure we're looking at progression-focused players, not anyone "cheesing" the fights to get meaningless dps. On that note, the following is meant to help SV Hunters to aid their raid team in killing bosses as quickly as possible. It is not meant to be advise on how to get top parses in general, or how to most effectively farm a boss you've already killed.
Check back soon for notes on Antorus, the Burning Throne
Fight Basics:
Hide behind
Pointe infernale
to avoid being hit by
Brûlure infernale
.
Avoid destroying
Pointe infernale
when targeted with
Comète déferlante
.
Aim
Etoile fracassante
to collide with multiple
Pointe infernale
to decrease damage taken.
Survival Tips and Tricks
Have
Désengagement
ready to jet you to behind a pillar if targeted with
Etoile fracassante
. Of course, use
Harpon amélioré
to return to damage dealing.
Try to time your trap usage and for times when you'll need to be hiding behind a pillar.
Aspect of the Turtle will block
Brûlure infernale
, allowing you to keep more up-time on the boss.
Pay attention to your raid timers to know when
Brûlure infernale
is coming up, so you're not building up to a 6 stack of
Fureur de la mangouste
while having to hide behind a pillar
Recommended Legendaries:
Appel de la Nature
Secret de Sephuz
or any utility legendary.
Single Target Build:
Hunter Gear Drops:
Wrists -
Garde-bras marqués par la douleur
Waist -
Ceinture de scorie hurlante
Back -
Cape de soufre asphyxiant
Trinket -
Cendres infernales
Arcane -
Hymnaire calciné de la lune
Life -
Icône d'animation perverse
Storm -
Vortex gangrâme
Fight Basics:
Confession
when at full
Tourment
to collect Remnants of Hope from Belac's cage and alleviate
Tourment insupportable
.
Avoid attacking Atrigan and Belac during
Lame d'os
and
Bourrasque gangrenée
respectively, so you don't get additional
Tourment
.
Survival Tips and Tricks
Perpare to
Harpon
between Atrigan and Belac a little early, to avoid getting clipped by their AoE and gaining
Tourment
.
Put up DoTs on your current target right before having to swap; they will not generate
Tourment
if they're applied before
Lame d'os
or
Bourrasque gangrenée
. This is easiest done with
Écharper
to apply
Morsure de serpent
to both bosses, if your raid keeps them close-ish to eachother. You can also sometimes get
Piège explosif
to tick on both bosses, but be careful as their hit-boxes are not as large as most raid bosses, and you may just miss hitting either of them.
Caltrops re-applies every second, and can cause serious problems with your torment if used wrong. As such, it is not recommended for this fight.
Use Rangers Net on the adds to proc
Secret de Sephuz
as often as possible.
Recommended Legendaries:
Appel de la Nature
Secret de Sephuz
or
Piège-doigt de Frizzo
Single Target Build:
Hunter Gear:
Helm Token -
Casque de traqueur sauvage
Legs -
Jambières écorcheuses de chair
Shoulders -
Espauliers de l'œil bredouillant
Neck -
Chapelet d'incisives arrachées
Trinket -
Berceau d'angoisse
Arcane -
Sérum de vérité inexorable
Blood -
Sang des indignes
Fight Basics:
When the boss casts
Attraction
, make sure to move to avoid being hit by moving pools of
Eau instable
.
Move out of the impact point of
Débris trempé
to avoid taking unnecessary damage or stacks of
Trempé
.
Survival Tips and Tricks
Feindre la mort
to remove fixate from adds in a tight spot.
While kiting adds, make sure to use all of your traps or any ranged abilities so you don't lose too much DPSing up-time.
Désengagement
will take you over the green puddles during
Attraction
if you're desperate.
Recommended Legendaries:
Appel de la Nature
Tablier d'os du Boucher
Mostly AoE Build:
Hunter Gear:
Gloves Token -
Gantelets de traqueur sauvage
Chest -
Haubert de brouillard givrant
Feet -
Palmettes isolées
Ring -
Bague de servitude en écailles
Iron -
Bigorneau calcifié
Fight Basics:
Slay Abyss Stalkers at the correct time to ensure that
Boue de dissimulation
is available for
Tornade tranchante
.
Stand behind
Boue de dissimulation
to prevent being struck by
Tornade tranchante
.
Bring
Encre répugnante
to Sarukel, The Unending Hunger when he opens his
Encre répugnante
.
Survival Tips and Tricks
If your raid team is lacking in decent ranged players, you can help with the feeding the whale
Encre répugnante
, but only do so if you have
Désengagement
and
Harpon amélioré
both ready to reduce lost up-time on the boss.
Recommended Legendaries:
Appel de la Nature
Tablier d'os du Boucher
AoE Priority Damage Build:
Hunter Gear:
Legs Token -
Jambières de traqueur sauvage
Helm -
Casque de forme-grain azur
Back -
Voile de l'adhérent noyé
Trinket -
Terreur des profondeurs
Trinket -
Fiole de toxines persistantes
Blood -
Appât caustique
Storm -
Perle d'ouragan sans défaut
Fight Basics:
If targeted by
Tir accéléré
move to the light side of the moon to clear stacks of
Suffusion ombreuse
.
If affected by
Brûlure lunaire
move to the other side of the moon to trigger
Purge astrale
.
Defeat the Moontalon before
Hurlement mortel
becomes lethal.
If
Suffusion ombreuse
or
Suffusion lunaire
stacks get too high, move to the other side of the moon to clear them.
Survival Tips and Tricks
Hunters have great respect for other hunters, and don't like to kill each other, so take a moment to think about how awesome these Huntresses are... then go ahead and kill them.
As with many fights, timing your movement boosts using
Désengagement
and
Harpon amélioré
. Try to use these to quickly clear your stacks by crossing the moon line at the last minute before the moon cycle.
Moontalon should not be alive long enough to get the full damage from
Piège d’acier
, so make sure not to cast it where she will trigger it. Using
Cobra cracheur
while Moontalon is up is helpful if your team is having trouble getting it down quickly enough, and should swap targets with you after Moontalon dies. If you are using
, try to use it about 14 seconds before moontalon dies so you can get CD resets on it; this also helps ensure you're doing max damage to it between 25% and 0% HP.
Recommended Legendaries:
Appel de la Nature
Your best utility legendary
Single Target Build:
Hunter Gear:
Shoulder -
Mantelet d'éclat mourant
Waist -
Sangle de l'union indéfectible
Ring -
Anneau de pouce de Yathae
Trinket -
Médaillon de sentinelle terni
Trinket -
Glaives lunaires ombreux
Arcane -
Granule de suffusion astrale
Iron -
Lumière stellaire incisée
Life -
Plume de Serre-de-Lune
Fight Basics:
If afflicted with
Lien de l'âme
, quickly move to another similarly afflicted player in the opposing realm.
Manage the final explosion from
Cri fracassant
to ensure it removes applications of
Armure thoracique
.
Survival Tips and Tricks
If in the corporeal realm, use all of your AoE burst while the adds are above 50% health.
In the final phase, use all of your
Boucherie
charges quickly while your side (corporeal or spirit) is stacking in, then switch to your normal single target rotation on the big guy until you can move back in again.
Use Rangers Net on adds to activate
Secret de Sephuz
.
Recommended Legendaries:
Appel de la Nature
Secret de Sephuz
or
Piège-doigt de Frizzo
Mostly AoE Build:
Hunter Gear:
Cloak Token -
Cape de traqueur sauvage
Hands -
Gantelets de hantise malveillante
Neck -
Médaillon d'âmes brisées
Trinket -
Encensoir spectral
Life -
Cierge lumineux
Storm -
Encens lumétoile préservé
Fight Basics:
Dive into the pit when
Ame instable
is about to expire.
Collect stacks of either
Grâce du créateur
or
Vigueur du démon
by touching Fragments that match your Infusion during Watcher's Wrath.
Quickly break
Rempart titanesque
and interrupt
Courroux des créateurs
.
Survival Tips and Tricks
Use
Désengagement
to jump into the big hole at the last possible minute.
It can be tempting to use
Aspect du guépard
to run through the orbs ahead of everyone else. Don't do this. You'll be kicked out of the hunter club and forced to go play a support class. It is, however, acceptable to use Cheetah toward the end of that phase to grab an extra orb or two that your group was going to miss anyway.
Use Muzzle to interupt and proc
Secret de Sephuz
.
Recommended Legendaries:
Appel de la Nature
Secret de Sephuz
or your best utility legendary.
Mostly AoE Build:
Hunter Gear:
Chest Token -
Corselet de traqueur sauvage
Head -
Couronne d'abandon d'espoir
Wrist -
Chaos-Calming Wristguards
Ring -
Bague des vérités invalidées
Trinket -
Vecteur d'éradication
Storm -
Genèse déferlante
Fight Basics:
Help soak the effects of
Marque sombre
.
Avoid
Chaos délié
and the targets of
Lames ténébreuses
.
Move away from the Fallen Avatar while he casts
Rupture des réalités
.
Survival Tips and Tricks
When dealing with
Chaos délié
, instead of running away, start at your max range (about five yards from the bosses hit box), and then slowly move in toward the boss. If you line up the green swirly drops closely, you should be able to keep dealing damage the entire time.
You can solo soak Recommended Legendaries:
Appel de la Nature
Secret de Sephuz
or your best utility legendary.
Priority Target Damage Build:
Hunter Gear:
Shoulder Token -
Spallières de traqueur sauvage
Legs -
Garde-jambes de puissance siphonnée
Back -
Cape de fureur gratuite
Iron -
Enveloppe de pylône réactif
Life -
Étincelle d'espoir de vaillance
Survival Tips and Tricks
Track Humanoids will point out where Illidan is on your minimap while it's dark/foggy.
Take
Boucherie
if your group isn't putting out enough AoE damage on the adds from
Reflet ténébreux : éruptif
.
Recommended Legendaries:
Appel de la Nature
Secret de Sephuz
or your best utility legendary.
Priority Target Damage Build:
Hunter Gear Drops:
Feet -
Bottines de traqueur d'étoiles
Hands -
Poignes de fer de l'impénitent
Ring -
Sceau du Deuxième duumvirat
Trinket -
Spectre de trahison
Trinket -
Tome de la raison déclinante
Arcane -
Tissu de la réalité déchiré
Blood -
Pacte de sang man'ari
Notes on Talent Builds and Legendaries
Voie des Mok’Nathal
has the highest damage potential in the level 15 tier. However, it also has a high skill cap, and shouldn't be taken on progression if doing so will cause you to make mechanical mistakes, or will just occupy too much of your attention. If you feel completely comfortable with it, it can be used to great success on any of the fights in Tomb of Sargeras.
Regardless of the fight, about 15-20% of top parsing hunters take
, and about 80-85% take
Chasseur de serpents (remplacer)
, this may be primarily a matter of preference. It's possible we might see more uses of
Blessures mortelles
later on when more people have the tier 20 set bonus, but for now, it's not really being used by top performing hunters.
Grenade de feu draconique
is starting to see some use, perhaps due to the buff it got for patch 7.2.5; however, it's still used much, much less than the other two level 90 tier talents. For the vast majority of SV hunters, the decision on this tier is one of
Morsure de serpent
for single-target/priority-target, or
Boucherie
for burst AoE.
In the level 100 tier, we saw only a couple of fights where there was any swapping away from
Cobra cracheur
. In the two exceptions, Mistress Sassz'ine and The Desolate Host, we saw top parsing SV Hunters taking
Trappeur expert
at a rate of 52% and 48%, respectively. It's also worth noting here that while
Chausse-trapes
was sometimes taken without
Trappeur expert
,
Trappeur expert
was never taken without
Chausse-trapes
.
For other specs, we see
Ame du maître chasseur
being swapped in and out depending on various talents taken. For SV hunters, this doesn't seem to be the case at all, and we only rarely saw top performing SV hunters wearing
Ame du maître chasseur
.
For the most part, Survival Hunters have a lot possible variations in both talent builds and Legendary usage.
Outside of
Appel de la Nature
, which 81%-96% of top performing SV Hunters used on every single fight, there's no clear cut, obvious rule for which legendary goes in which situation.
Secret de Sephuz
was used a lot for single target fights, though never in more than 56% of top parses on any given single target fight.
Similarly,
Tablier d'os du Boucher
was used a lot for multi-target fights (when
Boucherie
is choosen), but again, on AoE fights it still was only taken about 60% of the time.
Although
Souhait ardent de Kil'jaeden
sims well, on AoE fights especially, it never saw greater than 20% usage in top progression parses.
Changing from Tier 19 to Tier 20 Gear
There's no one size fits all solution for when to swap out your Tier gear. In general, the tier 19 set bonuses are considerably stronger than tier 20, and benefit both AoE and Single-target. However, Agility is very strong for SV hunters, so we'll likely go ahead and swap out fairly early, unless you're fortunate enough to have a lot of high ilvl, titanforged tier 19 pieces.
If you choose to hold onto your higher ilvl tier 19 gear, try to use the gear from the slots with the lowest stat budgets, like the Cloak, the Gauntlets or the Spaulders.
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