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Commentaire de Lyndachou

Ce haut-fait est malheureusement le plus long à réaliser, car il dépend de la RNG.
Plus facile à réaliser en HM plutôt qu'en normal (quand quelques mois se seront passés).
Les pe@#$% groupes rendent le haut-fait plus simple, actuellement, en groupe de 30, il est quasiment impossible à réaliser en mode normal.
Privilégier les classes avec taunt !

Tous les joueurs du groupe doivent ramasser le bouquet de roses sanguines qui se trouve juste avant la salle des généraux, sur la droite au niveau de la rangée de fleurs, près du vide. Vous verrez à un endroit un item cliquable, avec une petite main pour le ramasser.
A partir du moment où vous ramassez les fleurs, un timer de 10 minutes s'engage. Au bout de ces 10 minutes, si tout le monde n'a pas rempli les pré-requis du haut-fait, le bouquet disparaitra des buff du joueurs et vous devrez tous recommencer.
Tuez donc tous les trash, regen, rebuff, et regroupez vous devant l'item à ramasser, puis prenez le tous en même temps, revenez le plus rapidement possible dans la salle et engagez le combat directement.

Le but du haut-fait est donc que tous les membres du groupes transforment ces roses en un Bouquet de roses sanguines en fleuren moins de 10 minutes.
Pour transformer les roses en bouquet, le joueur doit obtenir l'effet de saignement de la lame pernicieuse et de lacération dentelée provenant du général Kaal. En saignant via l'un de ces effets, les roses gagneront un stack toutes les 1.5 secondes (vous verrez les stack sur votre buff du bouquet). Après 60 stacks (90 secondes) les roses fleuriront et votre but sera maintenant de survivre jusqu'à la fin du combat en attendant que tout le monde obtienne son bouquet.

La partie RNG du combat, c'est que les cibles des lames sont aléatoires. Il est possible de faire des try avec des joueurs qui n'ont jamais été touchés au bout de 10 minutes, quand d'autres l'ont été 5 fois. Il est possible de contrer dans une certaine mesure cette RNG en provoquant le boss avec les classes qui le peuvent juste avant une lame dentelée. Mais certaines classes comme les prêtres, les mages, les rogues, les chamans, les démonistes et les hunts devront simplement attendre d'être touchés par le saignement.

Le deuxième point, c'est que la cible de Cristallisation est aléatoire. Cette mécanique est en deux parties. Le cercle initial lancé sur un personnage non-tank est aléatoire. Quand il expire, tous les joueurs présents dans le cercle voient ses saignements supprimés et sont stun pendant quelques secondes. Ensuite, un météore apparaît sur la cible et inflige des dégâts qui se partagent avec les autres joueurs.
Si vous êtes en train de stack, n'allez pas dans le cercle marron de cristallisation, mais soakez juste après pour aider à partager les dégâts. Si vous stackez les saignements et que vous êtes la cible de cristallisation, pas de chance, vous devrez vous faire cibler de nouveau par les saignements, mais vous ne reviendrez pas à 0.

Il est également très important de maintenir tout le monde en vie et ce même après avoir terminé de stack. Un hotfix a été réalisé par Blizzard, permettant aux joueurs morts de pouvoir valider le haut-fait, mais ce n'est pas toujours le cas.
Vous pouvez track le haut-fait sur votre interface, ainsi qu'avec l'addon IAT.

EDIT : BLIZZARD A FIX CE HF !

Tous les joueurs du groupe doivent ramasser le bouquet de fleurs sanguines qui se trouve juste avant la salle des généraux, sur la droite au niveau de la rangée de fleurs, près du vide. Vous verrez à un endroit un item cliquable, avec une petite main pour le ramasser.
A partir du moment où vous ramassez les fleurs, un timer de 10 minutes s'engage. Au bout de ces 10 minutes, si tout le monde n'a pas rempli les pré-requis du haut-fait, le bouquet disparaitra des buff du joueurs et vous devrez tous recommencer.
Tuez donc tous les trash, regen, rebuff, et regroupez vous devant l'item à ramasser, puis prenez le tous en même temps, revenez le plus rapidement possible dans la salle et engagez le combat directement.

Dorénavant, tous les membres du groupe doivent ramasser un orbe d'anima pour valider les pré-requis du haut-fait. Vous trouverez ces orbes durant les phases de transition du boss (à chaque fois qu'un boss atteint 50% pv). Les dps distant s'occuperont de tuer les chauve-souris en l'air qui feront tomber des orbes.
Un joueur doit ramasser un orbe, de ce fait, une fois que vous avez récupéré votre orbe, laissez-les pour les autres. Vous n'avez pas besoin de les ramener au Prince, et je vous conseille de faire durer un maximum la phase de transi pour permettre à tout le monde de valider son pré-requis.

Maintenez bien le raid en vie, et tuez le boss lorsque tous les joueurs ont ramassé au moins un orbe durant le combat.

Bonne chance !
Lyndaëlle-Elune

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Commentaire de YariniCeteri

This meta is quite tricky, if for no other reason than it involves RNG and you can occasionally spend 6-12 minutes on an attempt and come out unsuccessful through no fault of your own, which is quite frustrating. Interestingly, depending when you're doing the achievements, this one might be much easier on Heroic than Normal, which I'll explain later.

A few initial notes:
- Smaller group sizes make things FAR easier. We had 30 people and did 3 kills with 11, 12 and 13 people respectively (tanks and some healers double or triple dipped kills to avoid offspec people). We 3 healed each group as mana tends to run low when the pulls take 10-12 minutes.
- Classes with taunts make the achieve slightly easier so if you're splitting your group into multiple kills try to evenly split your Druids, Monks, Demon Hunters, Warriors, Paladins and Death Knights.
- The enrage time is a real factor with how long we were having to wait for RNG some pulls, so take your time but also be conscientious of it. They enrage at 12 minutes and you will not survive more than a few seconds when they do.
- If your group meets the criteria and then someone dies after Blooming (read below) all living players will get the achieve, but the dead person will not. Blizzard released a hotfix for this, but we did it about an hour after that hotfix supposedly went live and had someone not get the achieve who died.

Start by having everyone in the raid pick up the Wilting Sanguine Roses found here AFTER clearing trash and only once you're ready to pull the boss. Picking them up will give you a buff which despite not having a timer only lasts for 10 minutes. Dying with this buff will cause you to lose it, and since the roses are outside of the room, will cause a group wipe. Once everyone has the Wilted Roses, you can get to boss room and pull.

In order to turn your Wilted Roses into Blooming Roses, you need to get the bleed effect from either Wicked Blade or Serrated Blade, both from General Kaal. While actively bleeding from either of these effects, your roses will gain 1 stack every 1.5 seconds. After 60 stacks (90 seconds) your roses will Bloom, and all you have to do now is live until the end of the fight and wait for everyone else to be bled.

The not-so-fun part of the achievement is that Wicked Blade targets are random. We had pulls where people went 15+ casts of Wicked Blade without being picked. We countered this where possible by having classes with taunts take Kaal before a Serrated Blade to stack their bleeds that way, but all Mages, Locks, Priests, Rogues, Shamans and Hunters are at the mercy of favourable RNG.

To add another layer of RNG, the target for Crystallize is random. This mechanic is a 2-parter. The initial circle is cast on a random non-tank and when it expires anyone in the circle has all bleeds removed and is stunned for a few seconds. Then a meteor is called down on the Crystallize target and does split damage. If you are bleeding and are still stacking up your 60 stacks to bloom your roses, don't soak the first part but DO soak the meteor to help split the damage. If you're stacking up your bloom stack and get picked as the target for Crystallize there's nothing you can do, and you'll need another bleed.

If you're stacking up your bloom stacks and clear your bleed for whatever reason you keep your bloom stacks and don't have to start re-stacking it from 1, so that's nice at least. Once your roses have bloomed your buff will be replaced by Bouquet of Blooming Sanguine Roses and you can freely clear your bleeds for the rest of the fight.

Kaal will do Wicked Blade in all phases but we found her phase easiest to AFK in so we pushed her to 65% and then waited until about 4-5 minutes into the pull. Anyone who didn't have a taunt and hadn't been bled by then we basically prayed would get bled later. Worked sometimes and didn't other times, but it's all RNG.

So that's pretty much it. Pray for good bleed RNG and don't let people die.

As I mentioned at the start I think in better gear it would be favourable to do this one in Heroic, as Wicked Blade cleaves in Heroic to anyone it passes through, so you can force bleeds on anyone you want any time, making it significantly easier.

One of our players made this Weakaura to track who still needs to Bloom their roses, as it's not easily evident on most raid frame setups. Big thanks to Doneire-Area52 for making this for us, helped a lot to keep track of who had already Bloomed.

FrostyShot#1667 if you have any questions about the achievements! (US Servers)

Commentaire de radiomn

I can't be the only one to spot this obvious homage to Little Shop of Horrors.
Blizz does love it's Easter Eggs!

Commentaire de pokakap

Updated Video guide: https://youtu.be/u5YV0PLRqgY

After the nerf on 28/01/2021, this is significantly easier to get.

First you must pick a flower from just outside the boss area. Everyone needs to grab this buff at the same time because there's a hidden 10 minute timer on it.

Phase the fight to the first intermission and have everyone pick up an Orbe d’anima, this will instantly bloom the Bouquet de roses sanguines fanées into a Bouquet de roses sanguines en fleur.

As long as you don't turn in any Orbe d’anima until everyone has Bouquet de roses sanguines en fleur, Intermission will not phase. It's ideal to do this in the first intermission because there are less mechanics going out.

Don't let anyone die until they have Bouquet de roses sanguines en fleur.

After everyone has Bouquet de roses sanguines en fleur, finish the fight and win!

Feed Me, Seymour! is a tricky achievement for the Stone Legion Generals because it is very glitchy on Normal and relies on RNG. We had several times that players did not get the bleed after being hit by wicked blade.

A small group (10-12 players) will make your life easier until this can be done on Heroic. On heroic anyone the blade travels through will get the bleed effect from Wicked Blade.

First you must pick a flower from just outside the boss area. Everyone needs to grab this buff at the same time because there's a hidden 10 minute timer on it.

Once the fight starts you need to have everyone get hit by either Wicked Blade or Serrated Swipe. Serrated Swipe usually is tanks only, but a DPS/Heals with a taunt can get it by taunting.

Both Serrated Tear and Wicked Laceration can feed the wilted roses. After 60 seconds, the wilted roses become Blooming Roses. Before a bleed and after the buff becomes Blooming Roses, players don't need to worry about Crystalline Burst.

Players should stand in Crystalline Burst to clear their bleed after getting Blooming Roses. Everyone should still soak Pulverizing Meteor.

It's ideal to do the achievement requirements before the first intermission as it's the easiest part of the fight.

Don't die, or you'll have to wipe and try again.

Commentaire de Daugen

Having both players that are targetted by Wicked Blade stack on top of each other increases their chance to get bleeding by double!

Commentaire de sullywullyz

So we were able to cheese the achievement a bit by having me as a DH tank leap away right before the Serrated Tear cast, if I was sufficient distance away she would hit whoever was closest to her, allowed us to greatly reduce the RNG needed to get bleeds out.

Commentaire de ljgard

this is the stupidest *!@#ing achievement ever. complete RNG - even in small groups our group was failing and then the $%^&ing buff disappears after a certain point despite not having a timer on it.

Commentaire de Dragnog

Taking damage from Serrated Tear and Wicked Laceration no longer trigger Bouquet of Wilted Sanguine Roses to bloom for the Feed Me, Seymour!. Collecting an Anima Orb or a Massive Anima Orb now triggers Bouquet of Wilted Sanguine Roses to bloom

This achievement is really easy to complete since the hotfix on 28/01/2021.

Simply have all players collect the Bouquet de roses sanguines fanées just before pulling the boss. They are located to the right hand side before entering the boss room . Once you have pulled the boss, dps it down to the first intermission, then have all players in the group collect Orbe d’anima which spawn around the room. This will turn the players Bouquet de roses sanguines fanées into a Bouquet de roses sanguines en fleur.

Once all players have their Bouquet de roses sanguines en fleur you can kill the boss to get this achievement.

Note:
A further undocumented hotifx was applied 30/03/2021 (https://wow.tools/dbc/hotfixes.php?search=pushid:62966) which makes Bouquet de roses sanguines en fleur persist through death. This means that

Dead players at the end of the fight will get the achievement along with the rest of the group
Players who die before the criteria has been met and have Bouquet de roses sanguines en fleur will no longer fail the achievement for the whole group
If any player dies before getting Bouquet de roses sanguines en fleur this will still count as a fail, and the whole group must wipe and try again
There is a hidden 10 minute timer on both Bouquet de roses sanguines fanées and Bouquet de roses sanguines en fleur so players should pick up their Bouquet de roses sanguines fanées just before pulling the boss

Instance Achievement Tracker addon can help keep track of the buffs so you can quickly see who has completed the achievement or picked up the buffs before pulling the boss.

Commentaire de catsniffer99

It wouldn't be so bad if people couldn't passively dodge the blades. Had a rogue who would dodge them every single time. We ended up having everyone stand there at the start and have people without a taunt pull threat on the boss to get the serrated debuff from the tank ability, then use abilities like feign death or invisibility to drop threat. Then we had other people with taunt abilities taunt later in the fight if necessary if they got bad rng on blades.

Commentaire de TheStatman

Hotfix - Jan. 28 - Taking damage from Serrated Tear and Wicked Laceration no longer trigger Bouquet of Wilted Sanguine Roses to bloom for the Dites-le avec des fleurs. Collecting an Anima Orb or a Massive Anima Orb now triggers Bouquet of Wilted Sanguine Roses to bloom.

Commentaire de Ajfree

Contrary to some comments, dying will not give you the achievement but everyone else will still get it.

Commentaire de Darkke

Blessing of Protection WILL remove the flower buff.

Commentaire de Ratyrel

This can be done with less than 10 players in the raid.

Commentaire de Turowai

Just a heads up, having completed this (again) today with my community.

Now that we're all a 'little' overgeared for this.. we just brought whoever was available. Was only 7 of us, but we did the full run without problem.

Main point though, this achy does NOT require a full group of 10 or more... the 7 we had in group was fine.
I would therefore presume that this achy will work no matter how many people you have in the group, inc being soloable in the future! (which is great :D )

I just wish blizz would do the same thing for a couple of achy's back in MoP... who's only difficulty now is getting 10 people together for it >.<

Commentaire de skyline33

Can Solo. Pick up flowers from flowerbed on right before boss room. Then pick up anima as you would for boss tactics. Kill. Win

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