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Commentaire de 692032

Vieux gueule-de-fer pêché en une vingtaine de lancer, compétence de pêche à uniquement 180 :)

Commentaire de 1103033

Bonjour !

Pêché aujourd'hui ( 18/03/2013 ) a 13h23.

Résulta de la pêche :

x334 ---> Lutjan a longue mâchoire cru

x107 ---> Poisson chat moustachu cru

x93 ---> Goujon brilliant cru

x2 ---> Poisson chat de 19 livres

x4 ---> Poisson chat de 17 livres

x1 ---> Couteau de pierre de puissance

x1 ---> Epée de double solde de l'aigle

x1 ---> Vieux gueule de fer

Tous sa avec une comptétence de pêche de 800 au total. ( Canne a pêche +30, Botte +15, Appât +150, Chapeau +5 )

Bonne chance a vous :)

Commentaire de Relax0914

Je viens d'avoir le haut fait dans le petit pédiluve à Forgefer xD.

Commencé à 17h57 et fini à 23h36...

802 Lutjan
2 énormes truites
7 poissons chat 17 livres
1 potion mana inférieure
1 potion de soin inférieure
1 cape de voyant
254 goujon brillant
215 poisson chat moustachu cru

Qui dit mieux? Bonne chance pour votre HF en espérant que ce soit moins long que pour moi

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Commentaire de 202235

Took me 216 casts to get Old Ironjaw - Fished in the Forlorn Cavern

135 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers
41 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish
37 - Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
19 Pound Catfish
Simple Blouse of Frozen Wrath
Old Ironjaw

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Easybakeoven of Aggramar

Commentaire de 179247

This should be fun for horde

Commentaire de Kerrianne

The achievement for Old Crafty is actually easier for Alliance to do than this one is for Horde.

Alliance have plenty of places in Orgrimmar that they can fish relatively undisturbed.

Horde have one spot, the Forlorn Cavern, and it has NO hiding spots.

Good luck!

Commentaire de VerasGunn

Not at all easy to get. Spent an hour or so in ironforge at the Forlorn Cavern, got the 250 fish achievement but no Old Ironforge. Died twice to alliance characters.

If you're going after this achievement, I suggest going at a low traffic time and fish at the most southern point of the pool in the Forlorn Cavern.

Commentaire de Torgman

has any horde gotten this achievement at all? I know people with over 500 casts without getting the fish, yet I've seen alliance after alliance getting it and running away, or ganking me first.

I'm at 250 casts myself atm, and I got bored with getting ganked.

Commentaire de 232430

After 4 Hours of fishing, and emptying my "Gigantique" bag twice, I got the old iron jaw.

My gf wasn't so lucky and few hours later, all the alliance woke up and endless ganking began. She never did caught the fish.

The location is southern most part of Forlorn Cavern.

Good luck to rest of you who want this achievement. This wasn't easy. Submitted a screenshot for you guys to see.

Commentaire de 91595

I just got to 100 fishing Achievement and fished to 347 and got Iron Jaw and the at 360 BAM! Iron Jaw number 2.

Off to Valley of Sprits to see the lucks holds out.

Commentaire de 189445

I got lucky and got it in 156 casts getting some other junk fish along the way and some items. I find i had better luck in the Forlorn Cavern and have seen some people on my server fish it in the Terrace near mage trainer and some people where trying to fish in lava.

I found just put sime music sit down and relax and just fish. Even if it takes u 1k casts...hey ull get lots of achievements along the way so its ok.

Commentaire de cactuar167

Took me about 375 casts. I caught him in the circular pool. Good luck!

Commentaire de 231672

No one should be complaining about the drop rate for this quest - One That Didn't Get Away is much much much worse...

Commentaire de BuRYGnome

Around 1200 casts, still nothing. Im starting to belive being gnome and trying to make this achivements is not possible :(

Commentaire de 82181

2000 casts, 2x 'the 1 ring' and still no luck with this fish =( I hate rng. I've seen several people next to me fishing get the fish within their first 500 casts.

Be prepared for some frustration if you go for this, you might get lucky or you might be there all week.

Edit: 4500 casts later I have finally got this item. In the meantime I believe I have made a noticeable income from selling lvl 1 fish @ 1 copper each and I have nearly completed my city defender achievement via killing horde who come fishing (sorry hordies). This took about two weeks of farming whenever I had time.

Commentaire de oneru

Note for all fishing fans like me who are totally going for Salty Title:

Old Ironjaw and Old Crafty are NOT necessary for the Accomplished Angler !

So you can get Salty without spending days on these fish :-)! Happy fishing!

Commentaire de 29361

I'm posting this in hopes that other's can avoid the mistake I just made.

I turned on auto-loot and was trying to cast and recast as quickly as possible to reduce the pain of this endeavor as much as possible. Believe it or not, I caught Old Ironjaw before I even got my "Catch 100 Fish" achievement. Problem is, I was going so fast, that before I even realized I had caught Old Ironjaw, I had already recast my next lure. Old Ironjaw is Bind on Pickup, so you have to click OK on the "Are you sure you want to loot this?" dialog -- which I didn't. Old Ironjaw went back into the water, and I haven't seen him since.

Lesson of my sad tale is to not go so fast that you drop him when you actually manage to catch him. Who knows when I'll catch him again. Good luck to all of you.

Commentaire de 96053

I'm having the same 'luck' as a Hordie fishing in IF. I have the fishing quest for the crock - which I am catching on every cast but I have yet to find Old Ironjaw.

I had no issue getting Old Crafty in Orgrimmar while I had the quest. I got him in less than 15 minutes. I'm into my second hour of fishing in IF with no luck and the server is now in maintenance so I 'hope' that I can get him before too many allies come to gank me tomorrow.

Commentaire de 199166

The safest spot for those who choose to fish in Forlorn Cavern is in the way back of the pool of water. I went there and not many alliance go to that area of IF. I was spotted by only two people who were warlocks and that was within an hour span. They didn't rat me out, but instead they fished with me =P. Maybe I just lucked out, but there are spots to stand in the back of the pond that you will be able to fish and may be seen every once in a while by alliance and hope they do not kill you.

Commentaire de 244515

Screw this achievement its just another example of how Blizz has a hard on for the Alliance and hates the Horde.

Ally's have an easy shot at Old Crafty. Just grab the daily and use the glitch in IF (the glitch that blizzard wont even admit is there.) But the horde are jacked any way you look at it with this achievement. No decent place to try and get it done period just hours of corpse running and getting ganked and the "hide behind the pillars and fish in the lava" BS is just that grade A first class BS. My advice is that if you're horde forget about this cause unless youre just lucky as hell you arent going to get it without hours and hours... and hours of frustration.

Commentaire de Rastafa

Take a look at the comments for the item Old Ironjaw. There's a detailed explanation of a hidden spot that is almost impossible to be attacked in. For reference, a video of how to get there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7qf67BCbb4

Commentaire de 283772

80 Troll Hunter
I spent the better part of 4 hours in IF last night in Forlorn Cavern. Not only did I gain 50+ lvls of fishing, but did not reel up Old Ironjaw.Opened GM ticket and they told me that everything is working as designed. So good luck with the achievement. I think the best time to go in was around 9pm to 12.

Commentaire de Graenor

Tried this trick. I'm horde, got the crocalisk quest, went fishing for Old Crafty in Orgrimmar, got him after 21 casts. Started to believe this works.
Then I went to Ironforge, after dying to guards once or twice, I started fishing in the forlorn cavern.
After 216 casts, still no Old Ironjaw.

So seems it does not change much, though I have to admit, either I was very lucky in Orgrimmar, or it does work, but only for Old Crafty and not for Old Ironjaw.

Commentaire de 293545

Just as a matter of stats, as a horde druid at the wheel location, I caught Old Ironjaw today. It took me approximately 2 hours and 250 casts to get it. I wasn't using a lure, but had max fishing and +33 from pole and line. I only had 2 alliance even notice me in that time, neither of which could see me well enough to make a reasonable attack before they died in the lava.

Commentaire de 47813

Got it today after 46 catches, while doing the Crocolisks in the City quest.
This quest raises the chance to get Ironjaw and Crafty, as long as you don't have the Baby Crocolisk quest item in the inventory.

Commentaire de 2784

Just completed this as Horde yesterday. Fishing in the Forlorn Cavern it took be 412 catches before I fished up Old Ironjaw, so be prepared to spend quite some time.

I am happy to be on a very horde dominated server, so I only got killed by alliance 3 times while completing this

Commentaire de hordi

Although there's been much speculation you could increase your chances of fishing up Old Ironjaw by grabbing the Baby Crockolisk fishing daily, I can assure you that as an Alliance member it doesn't increase your odds of acquiring Ironforge's elusive fish. After fishing for over two hours with that fishing daily in my quest log (and not looting the baby crock as speculators suggest), I still was unable to fish up Ironjaw.

That said, I fished up Old Crafty on the first cast with the baby crock fishing daily in my quest log. Perhaps the mechanic works similarly for the Horde, whereby their chance of fishing up Old Ironjaw is increased but doesn't necessarily affect their chances of fishing up Old Crafty.

Commentaire de snotnose

Fished up Old Ironjaw yesterday as Horde using the "secret spot" noted above in the lava after my 5th cast. Fishing skill was about 390 and was using the Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishin Pole with a Spun Truesilver Fishing Line. No other fishing enhancements and no fishing quests in my log.

FWIW wasn't able to position camera as noted above on my current model MacBook Pro (couldn't get it to pan out far enough that I could see the lava on the other side of the wheel), so just turned 90 degrees and fished between the wall and the spinning wheel. Other than having to click multiple times sometimes to cast, no other issues doing it that way.

Commentaire de 173784

Requires 1644 fishing caught to get him :) weeee

Commentaire de 220871

I don't think the quest changes much while fishing in Org. I fished mine out on my 7th cast WITHOUT having the quest. I have yet to attempt to fish Old Ironjaw though.

Commentaire de 307009

It took me several hours (2-6h) during 4 days to get this. It was really frustrating to see some dude get it after less than ten casts. My fishing skill grew from 250 to 450 during those days.

Commentaire de Forderz

spent 6 hours and leveled to 300 on this. Goddamn some alliance are *!@#$%^s. the worst ones are the ones that either get guards to attack you or the ones that don't kill you, instead they prevent you from fishing. A lot of /sigh involves. Still didn't fish him up, though...

You need to hope that alliance are feeling generous.

Commentaire de 306957

In reply to Turgidity's comment (since the forum is putting my comment at the bottom even when I hit "reply" to his post):

"Just as a matter of stats, as a horde druid at the wheel location, I caught Old Ironjaw today. It took me approximately 2 hours and 250 casts to get it. I wasn't using a lure, but had max fishing and +33 from pole and line."

Using/wearing items that increase your fishing skill does not increase your chance of catching a rare fish. It only increases your chance of getting a bite and of your catch not getting away when your fishing skill is too low to catch stuff with regularity in the zone you're fishing in. In other words, higher fishing skill does not give you better luck catching rare fish.

Commentaire de 325756

I've been fishing for this over 4 nights, and approx. 3-4 hours efficient time every night now without any luck.
Dont have a count but I've been around 700-800 fishes caught per session, so to undercut abit Im well over 2500 catches...

Been fishing at the wheel in the lava all of this time, anyone that can confirm that he's still catchable there after the latest patch? Seeing a comment somewhere that a guy got a warning and a 3 hour ban for wallclimbing and using that to fish, I figured they might removed it to avoid any further incidents like it.

Going there again tonight after midnight when its not that crowded for another 700-800 catches, but its really getting on my nerves, especially since most of my guildies never spent over 1000 catches for him.

Commentaire de 127999

picked up croc in the city quest and after about 180 casts i got old ironjaw. kept deleting the croc when i fished him up.

For The Horde!

Commentaire de 327440

Update . . . .with well over 1200 fish, and a final fishing skill lvl of 387, I have finally caught Old Ironjaw. And as others have posted here, remember that when you catch him, you will receive a loot box asking if you wish to loot the item, so don't be too quick on the recast, or you might miss your chance.

As of today, I have gone from fishing skill level of 227 to 323, over 600 fish, and still have not gotten this achievement. Will update later. . .

Commentaire de wingsofscion

Wow, it seems I managed to get this one with some major luck; I was fishing in Ironforge for approximately 5 minutes with around 75 fishing skill (gogo powerleveling profs at 80). That said, I guess his drop rate, as it were, requires some decent luck. It also looks like it doesn't require much skill in the way of fishing in order to obtain him.

Commentaire de unfo

has earned the achievement !
You receive loot: .
Your skill in Fishing has increased to 99.
has earned the achievement !
You receive loot: .

Less than an hour ^_^

Commentaire de Jerenn

I got it after over 1650 catches. That took way too long :P

Commentaire de Malvenue

As of patch 3.0.9 there is no longer any relationship between the daily fishing quest and the city fishing achievements.

Commentaire de urnias

Got Ironjaw last night in Forlorn Cavern. Got killed twice on the way in. Only saw 4 or 5 Alliance run past while fishing, but I don't think they saw me all the way in the back. Took about 130 casts at 430 skill.

Commentaire de 336959

4 hours of fishing in if and still nothing better luck tomorrow...

is it me or does blizzard really have it in for the horde...

Commentaire de 113199

Using the "lava method" worked best for myself as far as avoiding pvp,
I recommend you go watch the youtube video, search old ironjaw

Ironforge: The Great Forge

Longjaw Mud Snapper = 306
Bristle Whisker Catfish = 106
Brilliant Smallfish = 75
Lesser Healing Potion = 2
lesser Mana Potion = 1
19 pound Catfish = 2
17 Pound Catfish = 1
Old Ironjaw = 1
Total = 495

FOR THE HORDE!

Commentaire de Veilnebula

Caught him this afternoon around 12:30pm with my Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole. I have 450 fishing + 30 for the pole bonus putting me at 480 skill. I used the wheel's invisible ledge trick in The Great Forge (had my toon facing the wheel) and had no problem adjusting my camera angle to find the bobber.

Longjaw Mud Snapper: 19 (59.4%)
Brilliant Smallfish: 9 (28.1%)
Bristle Whisker Catfish: 3 (9.4%)
Old Ironjaw: 1 (3.1%)

32 catches in total, took about 15 minutes.

I tried briefly last night in the back of the Forlorn Cavern /sleep fishing with a friend, only about 5 casts before an alliance pally caught wind of us and attacked us/aggroed all the guards... logged off for the night dead and came back early this morning and rezzed and ran to the Great Forge, died in the lava and rezzed once I hopped up the wall. I had no troubles today and didn't see any alliance for the short time I was there (I am 3 hours ahead of server time so it seems the early bird gets the worm). Good luck to everyone else!

P.S. I used the instructions here as for how to jump up the wheel, strafing seemed to do the trick!
http://www.aftermathsb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1673

Commentaire de Worold

Finally caught him this morning. Break down of my fishing:

11 - The Mystic Ward
561 - The Forlorn Cavern
1597 - The Great Forge

2169 total casts to catch the little bugger. Thank goodness it's done!

Commentaire de 1254_

Can no longer fish in the lava as of 3.1 it errors saying "There aren't any fish here."

Commentaire de 345118

No longer warns you that looting Old Ironjaw will bind it to you. This helps prevent people accidentally re-fishing too quickly if they have auto-loot on.

Commentaire de 271128

This might get downrated, but I just wanted to tell you that it is possible, though not actually anything worth beating, to get the
Achievement before getting the Achievement.

I can prove it, by showing you this Screenshot.

Commentaire de Dusktide

just tried to fish the lava in the middle of IF (stood on the invisible platform under the wheel) and got the error "there aren't any fish here"

Commentaire de 358118

Well, I thought I'd add in my own personal experience now that I've caught Old Ironjaw. It's a cute little Horde story....

<begin> About two and a half hours ago (10:30 PM PST, 12:30 AM Realm time ), my buddy and I decided to try fish up Old Ironjaw. We're both level 80 Mages, decently geared, and knew the kind of trouble we were about to get into. (Whisperwind is about 75% Alliance, but it was late as well as a weekday so we figured it'd be a good time to go.)

We teleported to Stonard, flew to Kargath, then hopped on my Mechano-hog and rode north all the way to Ironforge. I had him navigate the quickest route to The Forlorn Cavern. There were a few lowbie Alliance players dueling out front. At any rate, we booked it past the front gate and headed left toward TFC. I got ganked by a guard, my buddy made it all the way to the water with an 80 Human Warrior hot on his trail. I revived and got my corpse to the water; he stayed dead but ready to revive.

There were two Alliance players fishing. An 80 Night Elf Druid and an 80 Gnome *something*. I was getting a little frustrated with the situation, so I said "!@#$ it" and revived at the edge of the water. I started casting and expected to get ganked at any moment, but the Allies left me alone. My buddy saw this and did the same thing. We fished together for about 10 minutes before both Allies left. That's when a 70 Night Elf Rogue decided to play around with us....

We got sapped a bit. Then we had little knives thrown at us from around a corner. Then we got ganked. Of course we were both naked and unbuffed; we figured the Allies would have left us alone if they saw that we only wanted to fish. The two 80s were respectful, but this Rogue was downright annoying. Anyway... after we popped back and began fishing again, my friend and I used two Savory Deviate Delights to disguise ourselves as pirates. I suggested we put our gear back on in case the annoying Rogue came back. You know... a little payback before we booked it out of Ironforge.... Well, a few minutes go by and the Rogue shows his ugly face again. I let him throw two knives at me before running into his LoS, casting Presence of Mind to make my Arcane Blast instant-cast, then he tasted a double Arcane Barrage from two 80 Mages.... He never saw what hit him! Haha. We laughed a bit, killed a few guards, then ported to Dalaran. </end>

By the way.... About two minutes after the two 80 Allies left me and my buddy alone, I fished up Old Ironjaw. It took a mere 50 casts. :) Sorry for the long and boring story. It's late here and I'm dead tired!

Commentaire de 184883

Naked Tauren with fishing cap and poll FTW. Almost no one came by and those that did either starred or fished with me. I was usually killed after between (100 and 300 catches). Oddly enough often people would fish with me then decide to kill me.

Commentaire de Coincidence

The new battleground queue from anywhere feature makes this a little less miserable. Horde, keep a battleground queue up. If any ally take notice, simply take the queue and a short pvp break. You have to anticipate a little bit, since you can't accept the queue while in combat, but you can usually tell pretty easily if someone's going to start trouble. It works great, it has saved me many corpse runs, and it breaks up the monotony a little bit.

Commentaire de 314120

For the horde there is a way to catch it and be safe if you manage to get into IF and to the pool were he is go to the back of the pool and fish i seen some other hordes doing it but i have no need im alliance so plz test it out and reply to me if you can do it or not

Commentaire de valdor

I prepared a book, ordered a pizza for an "Old Ironjaw" afternoon thinking it would take me hours... got it on the 3rd catch ! Woot !

Who says better ?

PS : I just lost my wallet a few days ago, that could be the lucky touch after bad luck ^^

Commentaire de Cusco

12th cast, ohai

Commentaire de 225343

I just fished up Old Ironjaw on my Paladin, leveling up Fishing. My fishing had just hit 134, so it was much, much less than the casts people have been complaining about above.

Link to the armory, for those interested~
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Anub%27arak&n=Lovelle

Good luck to those in the future, keep angling!

Commentaire de 392150

This achievement didn't take a long time. Here is the list for % and for each:

total time fished: 0.21.20 hours (21.20 mins)
fish fished: 63

Longjaw Mud Snapper: 38 =60.3%
Bristle Whisker Catfish: 14 =22.2%
Brilliant Smallfish: 8 =12.7%
Old Ironjaw: 1 =1.6%
Lesser Mana Potion: 1 =1.6%
Lesser Healing Potion: 1 =1.6%

Commentaire de beth4780

They have removed the ability to fish this up from the wheel in the lava. It nows says "There are no fish here." My friend and I put on our PVP gear and snuck in. After killing a really annoying DK around 30 times, we both made friends with some alliance (PvE server where they actually made Horde toons to ask us why we are trying to fish in their pond!) who fished up Old Ironjaw with us. It took me about 200 fish and my friend 600 fish to catch this up. Things to consider - 1-make sure that there are no terrabad guilds on your server doing For the Horde at the same time as you. 2- Race in and run to the pond past all the guards to the back corner. If you die wait to rez until alliance are gone (unless they are very nice!). 3-Make sure there are no annoying alliance 9yo DK's in sight. 4- type /sit and fish up achievement. Note - Not recommended to vow to stay with friend while they fish up fish either! However - also go to dance with alliance fire pillar, get drunk with alliance, dance with alliance /hug alliance. TY to those of you who are really cool!

Commentaire de 48286

On Horde, Destromath server. Been fishing pretty much all day. I've gone from 241 fishing to 355+ and still climbing.

Haven't gotten the rare pull yet but I've gotten a couple useless greens which was surprising. Only been killed about 15 times total and 10 of those were in the last couple hours. Few Alliance were needing free kills so I just /sigh /tap and wait for them to finally kill me. Run back and they were usually gone.

Not really a problem though because I've been bored and it was calming. So make sure you're not in a bad mood or expecting to just run in and get it straight off.

Commentaire de Grzegorz

Done tonight - 53 catches with skill 585 (15 minuts). Safe spot to fish is The Folron Cavern (just stay in back of the cave). If you not stealth class you will die before get there + some aliss on back (do it at night - safer). GL

Commentaire de 350549

took me a while, but after bout 60 fish i got him :)

Commentaire de 434821

Took five hours in three days to catch him. But had a good time in Ironforge, drank with alliance players who where also fishing and told jokes. Guess I was lucky only ganked four times. Helps if you don't wear your armor or fight back. Have a good time and good luck.

Commentaire de 434891

I am currently fishing at the Forlorn Cavern. It's 7:26pm and it's fairly quiet, only 3 people fishing here.
So far tonight I've caught 300 things. No ironjaw yet. Got a 19 pound catfish, though. :)

Commentaire de Thortok2000

With 600 fishing, I caught him in 42 casts. Your mileage may vary. (600 fishing from Arcanite Fishing Pole + High Test Eternium Fishing Line + Lucky Fishing Hat + Glow Worm.)

Commentaire de 113883

what is the drop rate?

Commentaire de 188421

Got mine with 167 tries =)

Commentaire de 368510

After much time and diligence and just over 3000 casts (at max fishing level), I finally caught Ironjaw. This could easily be the hardest fishing achievement there is. Wouldn't it be nice if the reward was worth the effort?
As a funny sidenote, the night before I caught him I had spent over three hours in a row trying. In comes a level 20 something and he started fishing right next to me. His first cast he got his 50 fish achievement. His next cast brought in Old Ironjaw! I coulda killed the guy! lmao

Commentaire de 454315

Ok can someone confirm that you cannot fish in the lava anymore? if so where can we fish this up now? I am horde and last time i tried was in the lava, so i have no idea where else to try.

Commentaire de mooloz

took 23 mins to fish him up in Forlorn Cavern...I used a Small Feast to go unnoticed, and "sit" (X) under water most of the time :)

anyway, props to Graig of Dragonblight - EU (human paladin), who beared with me while attempting the achievement :))

Good luck !

Commentaire de Keoskey

I wounder if this achievement will be easier to get when they bring flying mounts to Azeroth just fly in and land somewhere safe to fish.

Commentaire de TheMinority

I got this after about 80-90 fish. I thought I had to do it all over again cause when i caught him I was so exalted that I forgot to click on the fish. After that it went back again. The next cast I didn't get anything. The cast after that I really catched the damn fish. Lol but the guy beside me said he's been there for days. I guess it's really depends on luck after all...

Commentaire de RenaiMu

I caught him in 97 casts, as a Blood Elf.... I think it helped it was during Brewfest, because almost no one was in the city and no one noticed me. I just sat in the back of the cavern and laid down so I wasn't as visible. I got lucky on Old Crafty, too, too bad I can't catch any gold coins....

Commentaire de 467538

Caught Ironjaw in less than 200 fishes :) ; I fished at the pool in Florlorn Caverns. I think I had the skill of 150-200... can't remember

Commentaire de 469022

I decided to fish Old Ironjaw which i did in about two hours of fishing. On my first try, after 30 mins of fishing, a 17lvl player comes next to me and started talking. I told him that i was trying to get the achievement and he begun fishing also. In only 3 mins of fishing he managed to get Ironjaw. I got really mad and i left. The following day i went back to Ironforge and completed the achievement in about 1.5 hour.

Commentaire de kcz421

Took me about 2 hours of fishing, don't know how many casts. A few hundred, I guess. I didn't count, it's just an estimate.

Keep at least 4-8 bag spaces free and throw out fish when they stack to 20. The BoP alert has gone away but you don't want to lose the fish especially if you're an auto-looter. I fished up catfish, 17 pound catfish, 19 pound catfish, lowbie health/mana pots, other random items, but always make sure one spot is dedicated for this fish.

I was in the back of Forlorn Caverns, no Alliance activity (I'm horde). One level 60 warlock sent his pet on me but once he realized I was level 80, he backed off. haha. I just /shrugged at him and went back to fishing.

I got to that area after taking the tram from SW after getting the Fishing Diplomat achievement (where you fish something up in Stormwind and Orgrimmar). headed directly to the Forlorn Cavern. I think I had to kill one or two guards when invis didn't cast in time, but I didn't run into any level 80s who were alerted. I fished from 445am to 645am eastern time.

I expected to spend hours if not days there, based on some notes in here.

Btw I didn't have any special equipment on, just the fishing pole from Kalu'ak (exalted rep). I just stood in the back of the cave, cast the fishing pole, looted fish, cast the pole, loot fish, rinse, repeat... you get the picture right? :)

This will definitely help increase fishin' skillz if they weren't already maxed.

Edited for clarification.

Commentaire de 94248

For those that like numbers I just got mine in 454 casts.

Commentaire de speckz

Floorlorn Caverns in IF, 40 casts, about 10 minutes with 450 fishing +125 buff! ;)

Commentaire de ok1mgj

As i`m on horde, i was aware of alies. On Drak'thul, where i`m playing, i saw in Floorlorn Caverns 3 alies and 5 players from horde :D
Old Ironjaw was catched after 400 casts.

Commentaire de 175354

If it'll make you hordies feel better, on Norgannon, Ezrafeine won't murder you in Ironforge if you promise not to murder her in Orgrimmar.

Commentaire de nettopeer

Done in 90-120 minutes, nobody killed me, nice.
catches:
230 raw longjaw mud snapper
76 raw bristle whisker catfish
60 raw brilliant smallfish
2 lesser healing potion
2 lesser mana potion
1 19 pound catfish
and finally Old ironjaw

Commentaire de CNYGamer

Today I was down in the lava on the wheel in Ironforge with a Horde character and every time I tried to cast my line I received the message "There are no fish here." I tried jumping back into the lava and repositioning myself on the wheel several times but it didn't work. I've caught Old Ironjaw this way in the past.

Does anyone know if this method has been disabled?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Commentaire de 337833

Well past 1400 casts... and still no Ironjaw. :(
Went from 378 to 450 and I'm still at it.
Seriously, there MUST be something I'm doing wrong?

Commentaire de 514382

ok, the day i got this one was a good day for me and fishing, i got the dalaran rat, the turtle mount, the last coin for the coin achivement, mr. pinchy and old ironjaw, this last one i was prepared to stay there several hours but i got it in my 5th cast, nice work...

my stas where
450 skill
kalu'ak fishing pole
and a thing that pumps up my skill 100 for 10 min

good luck to everyone else, and for the horde trying this im sorry for you, there's no place to hide

Commentaire de 68464

You now stand while fishing.
If you sit you will stand up, if you /lay you will stand up, and if you /sleep you will stand and then return to a laying possition after the lure is in.

Commentaire de JGPenfield

People keep telling about their fishing level. Does the max fishing level make you more likely to catch this fish then a low fishing level?

Commentaire de Mouk

on my 119th throw took 30min to and hour.. just sit down and do it when the kids are sleeping or at school and ull be left more or less alone

Commentaire de killtrans

Just spent 7 hours fishing, still no luck :(

Commentaire de 575248

Fishing skills: 363 increase to 375

Done in about 50min
129x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
50x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
32x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1x 19 Pound Catfish
1x Lesser Healing Potion
1x Lesser Mana Potion

Commentaire de 222339

For Horde , I recommend using shrink noggenfogger or pygmy oil, going to the back of the Forlong Cavern, and fish underwater.
(note that you can only cast fishing while standing/sitting , find the correct spot)

Commentaire de 581881

Very easy achievement (for horde) that, with just a little bit of luck, you can get without even seeing any allies presenting danger (provided that you are level 80). The main problem with this achievement is that you have to fish in an area that is in the middle of a busy city and you can't really hide there. Allies attacking you on sight if they have at least some pvp blood in their veins is given and understandable, and you can't really fish under those circumstance, of course. The basic solution to this problem is very easy... simply fish at a time when there are no allies present. I'm talking about the weekly resets (Monday night/Tuesday morning). Shortly before and shortly after the reset, most people simply don't play because there is no time to do anything. No time for raiding, farming dungeons, playing BGs or playing on AH genius in the first case, for example. Everything you have to do is wait till it's 30 min. before the reset and then go to the Forlorn Cavern and start fishing.

I have done it like that just yesterday. Bought some invisibility potions and buffed, just in case, and went to Dun Morogh through Gnomeregan. To test my strategy, I didn't take the tram from Stormwind (which is better because it connects right to the cavern so there is lesser chance someone will see you). Instead, I marched right through the front gates with a trail of guards following me. Actually, I went to IF twice, taking both routes (to the right and to the left), just to see how many allies are there. All I have encountered was one lower level ally who didn't pay me any attention, though I know for sure that there was a number of allies sitting in Dalaran. In the end, I spent some 10 minutes catching fish in Forlorn Cavern without any allies interrupting me and after about 50 fish caught the Old Crafty. The only thing I had to fight were the guards, which are very easy to kill anyway.

Also, right after that, because I was already there, I decided to stay a bit longer and did the following things:

Took the tram to Stormwind and fished something from the cannal for The Fishing Diplomat.
Went to Stockades in Stormwind and got the achievement for finishing the dungeon (I also killed, just for fun, about 20 guards and all npcs I could see on my way there.
And finally went to the library in Stormwind Keep to read a couple of books for the Well Read achievement (which is guarded by a bunch of 80 elites with 25k hp, so a little bit of caution is advisable).

Only after killing lots of npcs and guards few 80s started showing up, so I used my invisibility potion, made a quick escape to somewhere where I won't be disturbed and hearthed. At this point, I spent about 20 minutes in both IF and SW and just as I ported to Dalaran, the 15 minute warning for server shutdown popped up.

Other info that may be of interest: I'm an 80 Undead demonology Warlock, though not fully geared still in PvP with about 24k hp self-buffed and this was done on RP realm Shadow Council (medium population). Of course this makes it a little bit easier, as my realm is medium-sized and its an RP realm so there are fewer bloodthirsty allies, which should be taken into account, but I do believe that this should make it still incomparably easier for horde to get this achievement done. Happy fishing.

Commentaire de 497744

got mine today with just 26 casts with no fishing equipment besides the strong fishing pole. good luck to all who go for this achieve.

Commentaire de master8705

raided IF today and got it in 3 casts

Commentaire de 607374

I have fished this place for 6 hours, well over 1000 casts and got NOTHING. Ive also come accross other points in the game that have been glitched for various things. Is Ironjaw glitched too? I would have expected to have caught him by now....

Commentaire de 511737

I don't know if this was luck or not, but I spent about an hour and an half fishing for Old Ironjaw in the Forlorn Cave and then I gave up at 310 casts.

Next morning I see a guy there fishing, on his 1600 cast and still hasn't got it. I fish for about 5 casts, and then decide to use a water walking elixir and go into the deep part of the forlorn cave and I get it in 4 casts. I tell the guy what I did and he tries to do the same thing and gets the fish too.

Try using a water walking elixir and go where the water is deeper in the forlorn cave.

Commentaire de bENch

Can anyone confirm catching this while being in a raid?

Commentaire de 617086

3 hours in 775 casts down lots of crap.........no ironjaw Will keep you posted. Got to 3.5 hours in and 915 casts in and dl'd fishing buddy, just relogged and doing it again. Let us see if the addon will help. 272 casts after addon IRONJAW CAUGHT!

Commentaire de Dragonsomething

Just got him with my lvl 80 DK. Heres the stats...

Total Fishing Time: 4hrs. (Actual fish time may vary, I like to do stuff while I fish)
Total Loots: 422
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish - 91
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper - 259
RawBrilliant Smallfish - 68
Pattern: Red Linen Robe - 1
17 Pound Catfish - 1
Formula: Enchant Chest - Minor Mana - 1
Old Ironjaw - 1

My fishing skill is at 450, +5 for the Strong Fishing Pole, +75 from the Bright Bubbles. Seemed like forever but, I got it....

Happy Fishing

Commentaire de PriestCatahoula

This was easier than catching Mr. Pinchy. Which I got a few days ago after several weeks. Anyway I swam to Stormwind on my Sea Turtle and then I ran into Stormwind. Where at level 70 I died. lol! I then made my way to the Dwarven district in spirit form and took the tram to Ironforge. The tram is at the back of what looks like another canal. Once in Ironforge I went for a rez at the spirit healer. She was down the path and to the left of the bridge outside Ironforge. (just follow the road) It took two runs into Ironforge before I made my way to the back of the Forlorn Cavern. The only Alliance player that tried to get me was a level 5 rouge. lol! It did however take 1400 casts in order to get Ironjaw which took about six hours total. I passed the time by doing dungeons. I had a lot of fun doing this. Be creative Alliance are amused by sea turtle and noggenfogger as well as pygmy oil apperently it is so amusing to them that they forget your horde. Good Luck!

Commentaire de salyx423

Took about an hour and a half of straight fishing, but I got it... Enough determination and anyone can get this - For the record, I was Horde and just sat in the back of the forlorn caverns... Got jumped once but other than that they pretty much left me alone. Good luck.

Commentaire de 618745

Got mine after 140 fishes like 30min, 450/450 fishing and using Bone Fishing Pole (30+ fishing) Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat (+5 fishing) Sharpened Fish Hook (+100 fishing) NOT sure tho if drop rate increases by skill anyone that confirm that ?

Commentaire de eclipsed

use Fish Warden Addon helped me a lot those hard days of fishing this achievs

Commentaire de 630280

Hello just wanted to tell you what was easy for me for this achievement... Just choose 1 spot to stand at near the guy who you give the key code for a murloc... And just every 2 casts in the same spot turn to the side and cast 2 times keep doing that and you'll catch him fast. It took me about 5mins to catch him...

Commentaire de 630773

Here are my results:

1000 Casts.

601x Longjaw Mud Snapper
217x Bristle Whisker Catfish
165x Brilliant Smallfish
4x 17 Pound Catfish
4x 19 Pound Catfish
2x 22 Pound Catfish
3x Lesser Mana Potion
2x Lesser Healing Potion
1x Gypsy Gloves
1x Infantry Boots

Times Ganked: 4

No Old Iron Jaw Yet!

Commentaire de Kattonge

Yay finally, after nearly 2,5k fish caught i finally caught you Old Ironjaw,,

Wait, what?

Commentaire de pikamaster

yesterday after bringing a 33 in the pool i fished like 10 minute and went off to org.

now i went to a suicide mission again and after 4 hour of fishing AND the most important of all 2 guildi who got a 80 ally keep me safe and asked to ally to dont kill me D: it paid off :O gonna put the ironjaw in bank

Commentaire de 624048

i got iron jaw only after a couple casts so dont give up! and some people say that if you use a water walking elixir and head towards the end of the pool and fish there you catch it fairly easly... so give it a try

Commentaire de 63604

over 4000 fishes and still no ironjaw hmmmmmm

Commentaire de Darkwarlord

Well I read all of your comments on here and tried the walking on water and fishing in the deep end in ironforge and i caught iron jaw on the 6th cast.
And that was only like 4 minutes after i got done reading the forums.
So thank you to all of you that left great ideas on here to catch him

Commentaire de Setrah

Had some time to kill today, so decided to try and go for this guy. Well... I definitely did kill my time. 700+ casts and no sign of him. Now, if this does not suck, what does?

Commentaire de Eximius

As you cannot fish anymore in the Lava, I spent 2hours in the Forlorn Caverns which resulted in
Session 1 - 568 Fish - No Bite
Session 2 - 12 Fish - Winner Winner Chicken Dinner

My advice, don't be worried to walk away and don't be plagued with "If I stop now then it'd of dropped in the next cast...", because it will drop when it drops.

Best of luck to all players attempting this, particularly Horde!

TIP: If wanting to transport to Ironforge as quickly as possible as Horde, it's advisable to obtain Goblin Transponder. To obtain it, speak to Sovik in Orgrimmar and pick up the Self Titled quest. You will then need to travel to Booty Bay {Fly to Rachet then get the boat to Booty Bay} and speak to Chief Engineer Scooty. Wait a moment and loot the Goblin Transponder. Then step into the Transporter which will take you into Gnomeregan, make your way out of the instance and you'll be in Dun Morogh. Hopefully you can find Ironforge from here :-).

Commentaire de 304144

This is really disgusting . . . Was leveling up fishing on my Priest the other day. Standing about waist-deep in the forlorn caverns pool, on the right side. Not really paying attention because I didn't think I had a chance in catching anything but regular fish and 'viola, up comes Old Ironjaw . . . Amazing, level 21 Priest, probably around 120 fishing skill (at the time) and I catch the bugger when I've tried for HOURS on my main (450 fishing skill) . . . Go figure!

Commentaire de 689350

After 1½ hour fishing I finally got my Old Ironjaw.

There is what I got. Totally 293 catches
-190 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
-54 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
-46 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
-Gypsy Buckler of the Monkey
-19 Pound Catfish
-Old Ironjaw

And oh yes I was horde. So I flew to the Badlands and ran to Dun Morogh through Loch Modan. Ran straight to The Forlorn Cavern and went back of the cave. I sleeped and put myself to AFK. I got killed once but it's not long way to run back from Kharanos.

My fishing skill increased from 390 to 414.

Good luck all on fishing!

Commentaire de 692753

Wasn't really paying attn to how long it took, but caught:
77 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
33 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
23 Raw Brilliant Smallfish

Still haven't gotten on my main though, lol.

Commentaire de AlatarielTheWise

HAHA.... im just saying:
12 min. gone from 277-282
caught:
22 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
9 Raw brilliant smallfish
8 raw bristle whisker
and 1 old ironjaw
woth a strong fish pole and sharpened fish hook

so have faith out there... it can happen in a very short time...
maybe the new patch gives some advantage... so gogogogo.... fish quikly... you might get lucky as i did....

Commentaire de 699869

After around 25-30 mins of fishing today I got it, Fished about 100-150 times (In a row) Rather lucky I suppose, as seeing other people farming it for over 3 hours.

And this is with the ORIGINAL Fishing Pole, aswell as NO buffs for increased fishing, meaning I.e no Fishing Baubles or w/e.

Commentaire de thycondrius

done in about 20 min. Fishing skill 450.

14 raw bristle whisker catfish
28 raw longjaw mud snapper
5 raw brilliant smallfish
1 17 pound catfish
1 old ironjaw

Commentaire de DrPhil

I've fished for him in the past for a couple hours with no results. I finally just gave up on him. And gave up on achievements in general. Yesterday I just so happen to go through the Cavern and saw a hunter fishing. I thought I'd give it some time. I wasn't there 5 min. and I caught it. I hate hearing about stories like mine. But I'm thankful it happened to me. I had on Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole with Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat.

Commentaire de DcanD

Can anyone confirm this achievement will be possible to be completed in Cata? From the look of things there are limited changes made to IF with the new patch:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/1074-Ironforge

But since it's the end of the world, perhaps the little water there is will evaporate or something.

EDIT: Possible, but beware of the level 85 guards, they will agro on you from quite far away and with 100k health they are no pushovers anymore. Took more than 900 casts but finally got it. Still a bit unfair, considering that half of Orgrimar is now covered with pools and there is still only that little patch of water totally exposed in Ironforge.

Commentaire de 741086

Caught in - The Forlorn Cavern

Time - 2hr. 20min

Fishing Pole - Nat Pagle's Extreme Angler FC-5000

Lure - Aquadynamic Fish Attractor

Fish Caught,

278x - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
80x - Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
63x - Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1x - 17 Pound Catfish
1x - 19 Pound Catfish
1x - 22 Pound Catfish
1x - Lesser Healing Potion
1x - Lesser Mana Potion

1x - Old ironjaw

Commentaire de uaefame

After cata release, this seem to be impossible

Since there is 3-6 guards that will bother you every 10seconds

and Alliance who are wondering around IF seeing you killing guard will kill you

So, It is annoying as fk

Commentaire de Kumusta

Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole - 525 Fishing Skill
5 hours in The Forlorn Cavern

750 x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
275 x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
180 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
5 x 19 pound Catfish
6 x 17 pound Catfish
8 x Lesser Healing Potion
7 x Lesser Mana Potion
1 x Inscribed Buckler

this is fkn ridiculous over 1.2k casts and still no ironjaw

Commentaire de Benqu

Just got the achivement after my 85th cast into the Ironforge Pond. I guess they have increased the drop rate, or I just got luckier than the rest!
The picture for Old Ironjaw is a frog, but when you actually hold it, it's a fish--kinda weird.
Weilding Old Ironjaw provides you with +5 Stamina and also "...makes you feel tough".
Well worth the 10 minutes I invested into this achivement.

Commentaire de Apochrypha

Finally Caught the Godforsaken fish!

It seems as if complaining on Wowhead actually DOES help for a few hundred casts after this post and Old ironjaw was MINE!

My cast total ended up at 2549. Now it's time to camp out in Dalaran's sewers :)

OK... I guess I'm not one of the lucky ones but at least I see others have struggled worse than I so far. I still haven't caught this miserable fish but here's my breakdown up to this point:

Time: Seemingly endless
Total Casts: 2200 and counting
Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers (how I now hate them): 1268
Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 353
Wasted Casts (or "The one that got away"):132
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish: 428
Lesser Healing Potion: 8
Lesser Mana Potion: 4
Bard's Boots of the Eagle: 1
17 Pound Catfish: 8
19 Pound Catfish: 4
22 Pound Catfish: 1

And NO Old Ironjaw

I'm an 85 Alliance Mage on Argent Dawn with a 525 fishing skill, using the Kalu'ak Mastercraft rod with a +100 lure and wearing the fishing hat. I thought my overall skill level and status would afford me some consideration but I was apparently wrong. I might as well be a level 14 gnome with some string wrapped around a half-crushed beer can, casting blindly into the side of the cavern walls.

Commentaire de mouser

Just got it, 866 casts. In addition to the usual three fish, I caught three 17 pound catfish, two lesser healing potions, one lesser mana potion, and one bard's belt of the boar. In the time it took me to do this, I saw about 10 allies go past, only two of which tried to gank me. One was successful, one was a lvl54 d-bag who though because I was naked he could take me. Taste my Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole, gnome. Also saw one other horde flyin' around, probably trying to do the lunar festival thing.

Commentaire de wolfman91

Thought I'd try this today whilst I had the morning to myself, set myself in position in The Forlorn Cavern at 42, 64 with my back to the wall. Died twice getting there but once in position it was fine, only got attacked once.

I've been fishing now since 8 o'clock (UK time) but still no sign of Ironjaw, I've fished up this lot so far:

Raw Long-jaw Snapper x 504
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish x 162
Raw Brilliant Smallfish x 151
19 Pound Catfish x 1
17 Pound Catfish x 2
Bloated Mud Snapper x 1
Bandit Gloves of the Monkey x 1
Disciple's Pants of the Owl x 1
Willow Bracers of Arcane Wrath x 1
Lesser Mana Potion x 1
Lesser Healing Potion x 2

That's a total of 827 casts so far.... got to stop now for a bit so hoping to do this in my second sitting. Does taking a break count towards anything or does Wow just keep a tally of where your fishing?

Commentaire de wolfman91

Ok finally done it, took most of the day.

Raw Long-jaw Snapper x 721
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish x 241
Raw Brilliant Smallfish x 216
19 Pound Catfish x 3
17 Pound Catfish x 3
Bloated Mud Snapper x 1
Bandit Gloves of the Monkey x 1
Disciple's Pants of the Owl x 1
Willow Bracers of Arcane Wrath x 1
Lesser Mana Potion x 2
Lesser Healing Potion x 3

So a total of 1193 casts.

Happy now :)

Commentaire de daaani

Finally did it... after 1710 caught fish and other maybe 100 failed casts....all i got was 10 lousy achievement points. Too much "work" for it...I.m not gonna go for it on another toone...

Commentaire de 779846

There is a ledge on which you can sit and still cast your lure. Alliance run by without ever knowing the difference.

(50.65, 14.68) is the ledge I'm talking about. A bit ago a dwarf was fishing underneath me but was low enough level he was unable to get up here with a mount. When people run in you can just stop casting. They'll never know someone is there.

Hope this helps.

Commentaire de ntuysliu

This achievement is sad for me.. i stayed in IF for 2 hours..
what i got is:
279 raw longjaw mud snapper
91 raw bristle whisker catfish
93 raw brilliant smallfish
2 lesser healing potion
2 17 pound catfish

Still no old ironjaw drop..

Commentaire de 780357

Flew into IF for the Edler for the Lunar Festival as horde. Got the Elder and died. Figured I would take a shot at Old Ironjaw while I was there so ran back. Stealthed into Forlorn Cavern.

You can stand with your back against the wall on the far side of the pool. No aggro from guards. Only took me 8 casts. Wasn't there long enough to see any players.

Commentaire de TheEgolf

I buckled down, grabbed a bottle of water, put on some good music and threw my bobber in. I was willing to take a while to just chill, grab some skillups and just relax that fateful Sunday afternoon.

I managed to catch him on my 10th cast. Unfortunately I had nothing else planned for that afternoon, so it involved many laps around Dalaran.

Commentaire de Tempeck

I caught it at Forlorn Cavern today. (Approximately 70 minutes of fishing.)

Commentaire de 713200

I caught it! 360 casts.

Commentaire de 807834

Caught Old Ironjaw in the back of the Forlorn Cavern after about 4 hours and 315 casts. I had 388 skill when I began, left with 412 skill. The guards deaggroed once I had reached the back, so it was peaceful fishing.

Commentaire de spectre289

Over 1900 casts before I saw Old Ironjaw in my loot window ..... but I recast before I saw the confirmation window so no fish or achievement O.o So make sure you look at what fish you get before recasting.

Commentaire de bob72

How can you get to this Forlorn Cavern at a lower level?

Do you need to be 85? I'm currently 70 and enjoy doing these fishing quests. Would like to try this one but how to get to the cavern without getting stomped on by guards?

Anyone got a youtube vid of people flying in?

Commentaire de CataBreed

Sitting there now, fishing. Pretty easy to get in, watch for gryphon fliers, i had one follow and had to kill it. Only 162k health. Sit and fish..........

Commentaire de racc

OMFG took forever fishing at 525 + 30 rad +5 hat + 100 lure

400x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
167x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
102x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
3x 17 Pound Catfish
1x 19 Pound Catfish
1x Lesser Mana Potion
2x Lesser Healing Potion
1x Old Ironjaw

Commentaire de 760793

Hello Fellow Horde Fishermen. I went for this achievment after reading multiple(all lol) posts. This achiev is really ALOT simpler than I had 1st annticipated. I started about 6pm server & Caught this Lil Bugger roughly 2 hrs Later. All the Posts were very good and Spot On. I did fly in @85 & max'd skill of 525 + 50=575. Had to kill 4 Guards(116k)each but otherwise had NO trouble. I was spotted by a Lvl 32 alliance toon...but they quickly changed their PvP Status(Unflagged) But I also /truce & /bow..:) Wasn't there to start a ruccass:) Just the achievment. :) Here are my Findings:::

383 Total fish caught & about 2 hr time frame:)
217x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
87x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
75x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1x Lesser Mana Potion
1x Bloated Mud Snapper
1x Lesser Healing Potion
1x OLD IRONJAW

Good Luck Guys/Gals...:) He Is Out There.......Use the Force young Padawans:)-

Commentaire de 800359

Woohoo screenshot accepted!

Commentaire de 732147

Got it after 439 casts, standing back in the Cavern.

Alliance were (thankfully) friendly. They would typically emote when they noticed me while doing their fishing dailies, but didn't seem to be concerned about doing much else. (I was also careful to switch my Warlord title over to Salty).

So, 439 casts, 0 deaths, 3ish hours...I'll take that.

Commentaire de 837011

More data:
538x Lutjan à longue mâchoire cru
211x Poisson-chat moustachu cru
147x Goujon brillant cru
4x Poisson-chat de 17 livres
2x Poisson-chat de 19 livres
1x Potion de soins inférieure

And finally Vieux gueule-de-fer at the 904th try.

Commentaire de 819232

After Old Crafty gave me a horrible time, I read over the posts and was positive that Old Ironjaw would be an easy piece of cake since most who went to do it right after got him in under 30 mins.

Well, I don't think the achievements like me, because it took me even LONGER to get Ironjaw than Crafty! The only positive to this one was that I didn't have to hie while I fished lol

Here are my numbers:

Estimated time to catch Ironjaw: 6.5 hours

I got:
213 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
136 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
605 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
4 17 lb Catfish
1 Bloated Mudsnapper (which opened to become a Moss Agate)
3 Lesser mana Potions
1 Lesser Healing Potion
and 1 Old Ironjaw!

Phew! At least I did them, I can brag about it, and sleep easier at night, heehee

Good luck to you!

Commentaire de 842650

Got it in about 5 casts. I do think i might have good luck, because i just got the Giant Rat about 10min ago with 50casts

Commentaire de 805126

Got this just under 30 casts as a horde DK, no deaths, 1 hunter that opted to fish instead of mess with me :D

Commentaire de 520946

Just cought mine on the 10th day of trying. I got it on my 19th catch of today, felt good :)

All together I'v cought the following amount:

511x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
160x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
152x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
3x 17 Pound Catfish
2x 19 Pound Catfish
2x Lesser Healing Potion
1x Lesser Mana Potion
1x Hunting Bow
1x Old Ironjaw

which is 831 catches in total
Good luck to others trying to get it!

Commentaire de 427061

793 casts

494x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
174x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
119x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1x 17 Pound Catfish
2x 19 Pound Catfish
3x Lesser Healing Potion
2x Lesser Mana Potion
1x low green item
1x blacksmith recipe
1x Old Ironjaw

finally got this god forsaken fish:)

Commentaire de Trinket90

Whew! This took me several hours, but not as long as some.

716 Casts:
Longjaw Mud Snapper - 57%
Bristle Whisker Catfish - 23%
Brilliant Smallfish - 7%

17 Pound Catfish - 1 catch
Recipe: Elixir of Minor Agony - 1 catch
The 1 Ring - 1 catch
Lesser Healing Potion - 1 catch

And of course Old Ironjaw himself! I was only killed twice by Alliance, since it was mostly deserted. I had stripped anyway, so I just let them kill me and run back. Later there were 2 other Horde fishing with me, so the Alliance left us alone.

Not as bad as it could have been--but I'm VERY glad it's over!

Commentaire de 754557

Took approximately a little less than an entire anthony bourdain episode to complete.

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: x134

Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish: x43

Raw Brilliant Smallfish: x30

17 Pound Catfish: x1

19 Pound Catfish: x1

Old Ironjaw: x1

Commentaire de Treal

I hate this achievement and this fish hates me. This post is for those that cannot catch a break with this achieve.

These numbers are just from my work comp, not counting the couple thousand I've caught at home.

Total: 3000
Longjaw Mud Snapper (1798 : 59.9%)
Bristle Whisker Catfish (683 : 22.8%)
Brilliant Smallfish (490 : 16.3%)
17 Pound Catfish (11 : 0.4%)
Lesser Mana Potion (6 : 0.2%)
Lesser Healing Potion (3 : 0.1%)
22 Pound Catfish (2 : 0.1%)
19 Pound Catfish (2 : 0.1%)
Bloated Mud Snapper (2 : 0.1%)
Bandit Bracers of the Falcon (1 :0.0%)
Shadowgem (1 : 0.0%)
Pattern: Red Woolen Boots (1 : 0.0%)

Commentaire de 769576

My Numbers:
Longjaw Mud Snapper: 32
Bristle Whisker Catfish: 18
Brilliant Smallfish: 17
Lesser Mana Potion: 1

Old Ironjaw: 1

Server: Stormscale
Time: 6:03pm 7-8-2011

Commentaire de 864632

not to brag, but i caught this with the 5th cast during one of the IF fishing dailies. it seems that if u aim to catch Old Ironjaw, you will not be as successful as if you just go and fish with no intention of catching him. i was also shocked that i caught him because i did not expect it at all, it almost seemed unfair that i didnt have to fish for 4 hours to catch him.

Commentaire de Esploratore

I don't know why one of the first posters said this is almost impossible for horde, but I don't agree.

I'm horde, I went overnight at about half past 3 a.m. into Ironforge to fish.

The first time I died while looking for the place where I had to fish, killed by guards.

I'm in an average populated realm, and apart from stormwind most alliance cities (this included) are completely empty, even less overnight.

The second time I went there, started fishing thinking it'd have taken a long time for it (4.400 casts for the turtle just yesterday), and at the 4th cast I got it.

Seems like unluck\luck change, sometimes.

Edit: fished in forlorn cavern, of course, I'm not aware if there are other places.

Commentaire de slecna

13 min 54th throw on 177 Fishing skill:)

Commentaire de Ablon

as Horde at The Forlorn Cavern:
222x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
79x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
72x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1x 17 Pound Catfish
1x 19 Pound Catfish
1x Sergeant's Warhammer of Stamina
1x Lesser Mana Potion
1x Old Ironjaw

Commentaire de 878438

i caught mine in the cavern after 38 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish but i thought someone is inviting me in group and i fished again and my fish dissapeared @:@:@:
btw why now my fishing bobber goes right or left when i try fishing i cant fish from schools cauz it rarely goes to the circle can someone help me with that?

Commentaire de Failboat1

Alright, this was the hardest achivement for me ever.

I finally pulled myself together to get this one, so I put on some good music.. Make a good big bucket of coffe, find my best RP gear from bank, lure up, sit down, start fishing ..

First hook, Old Ironjaw.. FML!

Commentaire de dcw3

609 casts so far...no joy

361 Longjaw Mud Snapper
126 Bristle Whisker Catfish
111 Brilliant Smallfish
4 Lesser Healing Potion
3 19 Pound Catfish
2 17 Pound Catfish
1 22 Pound Catfish
1 Veteran Girdle

Commentaire de 894336

I got this in about 65 fish so its not that bad good luck guys

Commentaire de Hollye

I just got this, and I'm exhausted.

I'm an 85 rogue on Horde side, flew in to Ironforge tonight at about 10:15pm PT. I fished a total of 739 fish/items in just under four hours, non stop. The only breaks I took was to stealth if someone saw me. At 2:05am I finally caught Old Ironjaw, but I also want to point out that the server restart was at 2:00. Coincidence? Who knows. But anyway, I also stood at the far back of the cavern wall, /sleep to keep myself somewhat hidden, wore my Weather Beaten Fishing Hat and just fished non-stop.

Commentaire de Sarranuva

Just attempted to do this this morning and here are my stats from Fishing Buddy:

Elapsed Time: 00:09:25
Totals: 29 | Skill 525 + 105 (Kalu'ak FIshing Pole & Heat-Treated Spinning Lure)
Longjaw Mud Snapper (19 : 65.5%)
Brilliant Smallfish (5 : 17.2%)
Bristle Whisker Catfish (3 : 10.3%)
Bloated Mud Snapper (1 : 3.4%)
Old Ironjaw (1 : 3.4%)

Hope this helps someone.

Commentaire de Coolmama

I just fished up Old Ironjaw with my lvl 18 warlock. I use Fishing Buddy addon, and I set to easy cast (double richt-click) and auto-loot. The auto-loot was no problem, I got him right after my 500 fish achievement

Woo Hoo !

Commentaire de 913592

hello just wanna say i have read all the comments and i feel pretty bad that my lvl in fishing is only upto 65 and i pulled him out just after 3 casts.i then cooked him and he didnt taste to nice

Commentaire de Jacus

168 casts in The Forlorn Cavern

Commentaire de 163020

I believe there is a high probability the opposing city gets a very generous bonus on the drops. It took me hundreds of drops to get the Orgrimmar one as horde, 10-20 in Ironforge.

Commentaire de 152155

No advantage if u use lure, or if u have max fishing level. It`s all about LUCK.
468 catches. Snapper, catfish,smallfish, etc. Spend 3, 1/2 hours. There`s no one around in Forlorn caverns at anytime, is a dead zone, but i think depends on realm. I suggest to start a level one dwarf to check area first. Use /sleep method near background wall it`s less visible. Try to fish without shoulder`s equipped and without any title in front of your name. Use autoloot.

Wish u all Good luck.

For the Horde !

Commentaire de Kayleah123

Im super lucky this week. After catching the giant rat in 3 casts, i catched old ironjaw in 7 casts while doing Ironforge fishing daily

Commentaire de DarklingThrush

As a druid I just flew past the guards - no dismounting, no slowing down. They shot me as I passed, but I didn't die. By the time I reached the cavern they'd all lost me. I did a /sleep and fished for quite a while with no problems. Eventually a couple of level 60ish gnomes showed up and decided to harass me. I calculated my fishing time would face a shorter interruption if I disappeared rather than killing them, so I tabbed out to my task manager, closed the game, then logged one of my alliance toons to fish the same cavern for a few till it was clear they'd all gotten bored and left. Haven't caught Old Ironjaw yet, but this strat worked pretty smooth and I will use it again when I go back.

Commentaire de Rawress69

Got Mine Today After 87 catches..

47 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
23 - Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
17 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish

Commentaire de kingandrei

Caught in - The Forlorn Cavern

1971 x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
660 x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
503 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
2 x 19 Pound Catfish
10 x 17 Pound Catfish
2 x Lesser Healing Potion
8 x Lesser Mana Potion
1 x Enchant Cloak - Minor Agility
1 x Old Ironjaw

Commentaire de 926898

Caught in ~120th cast in The Forlorn Cavern, Ironforge; 2 days, ~1 hour total; ~half with Bright Baubles and half with Aquadynamic Fish Attractor; full gear.

Commentaire de 931512

Finally caught the bugger!

818 casts.
Approximately 5 hours 15 minutes spent to catch him (100 casts a day when I was working on other dailies).

Also caught:
465 Longjaw Mud Snapper
179 Bristle Whisker Catfish
161 Brilliant Smallfish
4 19 Pound Catfish
4 Lesser Healing Potion
3 17 Pound Catfish
1 Raider's Bracer of the Bear
1 Young Ironjaw

And of course, 1 Old Ironjaw!

Commentaire de Lurva

Just fished up Old Ironjaw after 27 casts only!

Commentaire de 533854

Just finished this as horde. It honestly wasn't as difficult as people made it seem. Flew straight through the front door and to the Forlorn Cavern. As a DK I was able to stand on the water all the way at the back of the pool and fish from there. Not the best coverage but I didn't get killed once. Although it took me 1,040 catches before I got Old Ironjaw.

Commentaire de Crusadees

Totals: 297 Skill: 525 + 128 (Fishingpole and lure)

Longjaw Mud Snapper (163; 54,9%)
Bristle Whisker Catfish (79; 26,6%)
Brilliant Smallfish (51; 17,2%)
Lesser Mana Potion (1; 0,3%)
19 Pound Catfish (1; 0,3%)
17 Pound Catfish (1; 0,3%)

Old Ironjaw (1; 0,3%)

Commentaire de 875971

Posting here in a vein attempt to keep my sanity :p

This ofcourse aside from the casual lvl 20 troll, that tries to swim and jump in front of my dangling line. They usually give up after 20 seconds of no reaction :D

So far 1 horde paid a visit. It was a very short one.

Equipment:
Skill: 525 + 30 = 555
Addons: Fishing buddy

First attempt:

Fished +/- 1500 casts containing:

3 x 17 pound Catfish
2 x 19 pound Catfish
1 x 22 pound Catfish
2 x Bloated Mudfish Snapper
3 x lesser mana potion
2 x random green
1 x Formula: Enchant Weapon - Lesser Beastslayer

Second attempt: (Addon installed)

Fished 717 casts containing:

1 x 17 pound Catfish
1 x 19 pound Catfish
3 x lesser mana potion
Old Ironjaw!

Will keep u posted on my progress

Edit: Finally cought the bugger after aproximatly 2217 casts!

Tips:

Use 'Fishing Buddy', it will help u feel more productive and educated while repeating the same action over and over.(and it has an easy-cast option)

Do it in blocks of set numbers to have something to work too. I used blocks of 50 casts.

If anyone tries to annoy u, simply keep fishing without giving any reaction. They will get bored very soon.

Do not give up! Do not even think about catching the thing. Live it!

Good luck all attempting this insane achievement.

Commentaire de 950590

I am horde. Made it into Ironforge and once you get into the Forlorn Cavern no guards will bother you. I fished for 12 hours straigh. I caught (236) Brilliant Smallfish, (836) Longjaw Mudsnappers, (329) Bristle Catfish, (1) 22lbs Catfish, (4) 17lbs Catfish, (3) Lesser Mana Potion, (1) Schematic: EZ=thro dynamite, (1) Gypsy Tunic of the Owl; at which time, I gave up.
During that time, I only had one Alliance decide to kill me, which was around hour 11. I think that the drop rate on this is so horrible now, that it is impossible. So, yeah. >.< Annoyed!

Commentaire de Meach

I spent about 6 hours today trying to catch this fish. During that time, two people caught it. One of whom had 6 fishing skill and the other was there doing his daily. The drop is completely random. You could fish for seconds or days, its all luck. I feel like I've wasted minutes of my life reading about how fast some people fished it up. How many casts or how long adds no importance to the site. Its a random drop. The only thing I think I've read that was actually worth posting here was how some horde players made there way in to complete this achv in order to be helpful to others.

Commentaire de Smrth

by doing this, u'll get 1 000 poissons in no time..

Commentaire de 946348

Got Old Ironjaw in 102 casts! (I have tried many other times, but alliance always seemed to find me after about 30 min.).

79 x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper,
21 x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish,
21 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish,
1 x Old Ironjaw.

I was set on auto loot and after it said I got the achievement Old Ironjaw went straight to my bag. I didn't have to hit accept to receive him. I fished in the Forlorn Cavern, went straight to the back and did /sleep. Only saw two alliance the 45 minutes I was there. They never saw me. :) I took all items off with durability and I was fishing with Mastercraft Kalu'Ak Fishing Pole, Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat and Nat Pagle's Extremes Anglin' Boots.

Commentaire de Djibril

I was doing my daily ( Du poisson pour Glpie ) when i caught him. 4 cast later, i caught another one!
Funny thing was, i didn't catch any Vairon aveugle !
Few moments later, i realised i was in a raid group :p (don't downrate me for that :p )

Commentaire de 974026

Got him in 334 casts as Horde.

Now, off to get Ol' Crafty!

Commentaire de niklasjp

I have fished for Old Ironjaw since the beginning of my fishing career. I fished for him occasionally when i was bored as an alliance, and after my faction-change it was, of course, more difficult, but the challenge even greater. I have earned the salty title, but Old Ironjaw keeps bothering me. Here is my story:

Last night at had been fishing for roughly 2.5 h. One from my guild said that he was bored, and I suggested that he could come and fish after Old Ironjaw. He said his fishing skill was very low, and did not even know that the fish existed. I said the skill did not matter. How right i turned out to be. My friend had fished for 5 min when he made a throw that earned him 2 achievements: Old Ironjaw (as you've probably guessed already) and 100 fish!

It was my saddest wow-moment ever. No hard feelings, but oh my god....

I swear I will catch that fish some day.

Commentaire de Thetinyone

Got Mine very quickly:

- 6 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
- 17 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
- 1 Old Iron Jaw

Commentaire de lilhobbit37

Took me 82 casts.

Caught 57 Longjaw Mud Snappers
15 Brilliant Smallfish
9 Bristle Whisker Catfish

And....1 Old Ironjaw!

Used a fishing hat and lure, and had Jeweled Fishing Pole.

Total skill: 525+110=635

Commentaire de Valkder

I got really lucky here!

I spent over five hours at Ogrimmar, trying for Old Crafty, and all I got was killed a few times because some idiots just can't let a poor Elf fish....

Anyway, I went to Ironforge, to see what might happen, and in 62 casts, there he was!

The breakdown was:

1 Lesser Healing Potion
37 Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers
16 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
7 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1 Old Ironjaw

I admit that this is NOT the norm, because I'd been reading the posts as I sat fishing for Old Crafty.

I hope that everyone has great luck here!

Commentaire de 1004122

ok been fishing in ironforge now for 8 days. over 2850 casts and still now old ironjaw. my fishing is maxed out. my fishing skill is at 650 or above. what am i doing wrong to not get this stupid fish.

Commentaire de peachsnaps

Same here, I'm at about 2,700 casts with 640 fishing skill, been at it for days. I think we're just really unlucky. :(

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Update: Got it finally on my 3,077th cast

Commentaire de kayakira1

finally after 960 casts. Did catch him at the right site of the pool, after I saw someone else did catch him there within half an hour.
I decided to try that spot too and had him there also within half an hour.

Commentaire de 1013528

Ripley's believe it or not....I have Old Crafty on 6 toons. The first toon took over 2k casts. the next 5 were within the first 100 casts. The last one (which was on Sunday morning) took over 1300. I caught all of them at the right side of the pool standing about 3 inches from the right wall. If you want to check the validity of this post here are the toons.

Tarlcabot, Feelmyburn, Chingate, Ojsblade, Smegmawet and Molestro. They are all on Proudmoore.

I am the person that the previous poster saw catch Ironjaw.

Good Luck.

Commentaire de ngrann

Whenever I see a horde fishing in IF, I wave at them. I wont attack them, if they are fishing. They have enough issues trying to get to IF and hiding from alliance in general. I still havent gotten freaking old iron jaw. I spend about an hour a day before I just say "screw it" and go on my way. LOL

Commentaire de kohmu

i spent a good 4-5 hours at hourly intervals searching for this guy. many, many casts...

after reading the comments here extensively, i mounted and flew to the back of the cavern and dismounted. i fell on a ledge were you can fish without actually falling in the water. i fished for about 30 minutes and finally caught the sucker. don't know if this was luck or what but i yielded nothing fishing at the "shore" of the cavern.

good luck to all! now onto ol'crafty...

Commentaire de baaboo

This achieve is all rng luck.
The only relevant information to add here is a small change in recent patch:
There is no longer a Binds-on-Pickup confirmation dialogue window for Ironjaw to screw up your fishing. It just fishes up like any other fish, only difference is that it is green quality and you get achievement spam the first time you catch him.

6500+ tries before I got him and witnessed 5 people catch him while I was trying.. <.<

Commentaire de 1029725

This achievement only took me about 40 minutes.
It took me 99 catches to get my hands on this guy standing along the side of the pool.

I caught:
63 Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers
15 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
13 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
1 Elixer of Water Walking
1 Ivory Fisherman's Pipe
1 Old Ironjaw

Horde should just fly into the back of the cavern and mind their own business, there aren't many players around Ironforge nowadays.

Best of luck, everyone!

Commentaire de 514224

for horde that only want for achievement.
just relog to a alliance chara and fish it in ironforge
so you dont get kill by guard or players + you get on all chara the achievement:)

Commentaire de 1035722

As a horde orc hunter i just flew in to ironforge and flew all the way to the cavern and fished back there with some alliance in less than 20 minutes i had old ironjaw

Commentaire de 1045199

Well.... I went to Ironforge for fun and decided to attempt to catch him. First Catch: Old Ironjaw.
After reading these comments i realised how incredibly lucky I was.

Commentaire de grumpy9

got mine after 176 catches using bright baubles

bristle whisker catfish 43
Longjaw mud snapper 111
brilliant smallfish 22
17 Pound Catfish 1

Commentaire de mellowyellow

Went during a weekday morning/afternoon since I figured there would be less Alliance around to bother with. A few came to look and some fished as well but no one tried to attack me.

Total of 778 catches

331 x longjaw mud snapper
221 x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
214 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
4 x 17 pound catfish
6 x Lesser Mana Potion
1 x Lesser Healing Potion
1 x Old Ironjaw

Commentaire de Taraezor

I have Old Ironjaw already but it is simply for "the challenge" that players like me persist in doing it on other toons. Currently getting ganked repeatedly the last 24 hours but battling on with my lowbie toon. With one of my toons, well versed in Archaeology and whatnot, I got all the fun stuff out we had a right party, me and the Alliance with all of our transformations and things we could lay out on the ground. That was a fun day. This time around... not so much fun lol.

Commentaire de Violante

7/24/2013, a very sad day. Got the achievement, after 9 hours, playing in the waters of The Forlorn Cavern, Ironforge. I think the worst part is watching that little Murky fella' dance. I want him ;-;

600 fishing skill + 30 (bone fishing pole) + 150 (heat treated spinning lure)
As well as the occasional + 15 (sharpened tuskarr spear)

Totals: 824
Longjaw Mud Snapper: 495
Bristle Whisker Catfish: 179
Brilliant Smallfish: 142
Lesser Healing Potion: 2
19 Pound Catfish: 2
17 Pound Catfish: 2
Gleaming Claymore of the Whale: 1
Old Ironjaw: 1

On to the Horde side, now, for Old Crafty :/

Commentaire de drwowhead

cost 5100 and no drop more!
gj blizzard i fishing 5 days 4-5 hour all time !
my skill 600 + lure 150 + 35 fishing pole gjgjgjg!
ty

Commentaire de Huntinskilz

Still fishing for this as of right now. Been at it most of the day (I'd say about 6 hours so far).

The Lava Trick doesn't work for anyone wondering, or idiots like myself who fail to keep reading comments before trying :)

I find sitting underwater on the side of the cavern or standing up on the ledge to be the most private spots. But am still noticed by most wandering Alliance. I've only been ganked 3 times, all thanks to one guildy who seems to have it in for me ;D

EDIT: Finally caught the bugger! :D

It took me around 8-9 hours. I had to log for 30 minutes or so thanks to some people camping my corpse, and I started doing it far more casually in the last few hours, but after a long afternoon of fishing, a few PvP encounters and a whole lot of fish, I caught Old Ironjaw :)

Here are my drops. The gem came from a fish container that I forget the name of (seeing as I opened it).

43 stacks of Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper (860)
11 stacks of Brilliant Smallfish (220)
14 stacks of Bristle Whisker Catfish (280)
2 x 19 Pound Catfish
5 x 17 Pound Catfish
1 x The One Ring
1 x Moss Agate
5 x Lesser Mana Potions
1 x Lesser Health Potion
1 x Old Ironjaw

A total of 1376 catches.

Commentaire de Morganus73

Well they haven't nerfed this at all , as i was hoping. I had a cracked at it back in the lich king days to no avail.
So i decided to do it and stay for the long haul, until it was completed for the achievement. ( pandarian expansion )

Spending and entire day in forlorn cavern until completion, logging in and out over the day spending , well not quite sure a total of 5 hr fishing, but spent about 10 hour in forlorn cavern. Queuing for rated battleground and Herioc instances, make sure you are not capped because you will be by the end of the day.

List of items and fish caught to achieve 10 points.

x 729 _ Raw Longjaw Snapper
x 238 _ Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
x 200 _ Raw Brilliant Smallfish
x 4 _ 17 Pound Catfish
x 3 _ Lesser healing Potion
x 2 _ Lesser mana Potion
x 2 _ 19 Pound Catfish
x 1 _ Bloated Mud Snapper
x 1 _ Shadow gem ( from Bloated Mud Snapper )
x 1 _ Simple Britches of the Owl ( green )
x 1 _ Red Leather Bag ( 8 slot )
x 1 _ Hunting Belt ( grey )

x 1138 _ Total items/fish caught

Nb - With my mammoth had to vendor several times, and put up with the odd alliance , bugging me. Nearly ready to give but stick with if you are prepared to go this far. ( Just think once you have done it , you never have to do it again )
Happy DAYS - Morganus _ Barthlius
Make you you have a key binding to fishing and auto loot set correctly so you don't miss the catch of a life time !

Commentaire de Melcahia

It took me less than 20 minutes, only using Nat´s Lucky Fishin Pole and Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat, with my warrior Undead, i think is just lucky but if you dont try you will never know.

Commentaire de 1226531

PATCH 5.4

I can confirm that you no longer have to click accept Ironjaw as a soulbound item. So put auto loot on and do not worry about losing him.

Here’s all my stats for Ironjaw:

Fished with: Mastercraft Kalu’ak Fishing Pole (+30 fishing and level 600 fishing)

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper - 520 - 60.53%
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish - 184 - 21.42%
Raw Brilliant Smallfish - 144 - 16.76%
17 Pound Catfish - 5 - 00.58%
Lesser Healing Potion - 2 - 00.23%
Lesser Mana Potion - 2 - 00.23%
Pattern: Red Linen Vest - 1 - 00.11% (Got this on my first cast)
OLD IRON JAW - 1 - 00.11%

860 Total casts

About 3.5 hours total

Good luck everyone!

Commentaire de Bodomi

What I caught in my farming for Old Ironjaw:

x227 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper.
x89 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish.
x63 Raw Brilliant Smallfish.
x2 17 Pound Catfish.
x2 Lesser Mana Potion.
x1 Lesser Healing Potion.
x1 22 Pound Catfish.
x1 The 1 Ring.
x1 Willow Pants of the Eagle.
x1 Old Ironjaw

Commentaire de 1258441

Just got this achievement. Only took me about an hour of on and off fishing, seems I got quite lucky.
Regarding some comments here (albeit from a couple of years ago) about fishing on the right side of the pool, bizarrely this seems to be true.
Usually I assume things like that are nonsense but decided to give it a try, had nothing to lose after all. Sure enough, it took no longer than 10 minutes to catch this big fella after moving to the right.
Coincidence? Maybe, but I recommend sitting yourself down on the right side of the pool just in case there is some merit in the theory. Happy fishing!

Commentaire de 1310616

took me ages to get it, literally ages, got max fishing on one char thanks to it and few hours of fishing on other... was my most hated achiev... my advice - do not give up, you'll get it eventually.. that fish exists...

Commentaire de Koshie

I got pretty lucky judging by the other comments here.

Here's my data to add to everyone else's:

182 - Mud Snappers
61 - Catfish
43 - Smallfish
2 - 19 Pound Catfish
1 - Lesser Healing Potion
1 - Lesser Mana Potion

Total Catches: 229

And then Ironjaw. So it's possible to catch him relatively quickly, good luck!

Commentaire de tataluibob

belive me or not, i got the fish after 4 catch. I belive i was lucky

Commentaire de Witchhunter

For horde make or use existing alliance character > go to ironforge> don't worry about being killed > fish > profit

Commentaire de Knjaz

lvl 100 troll shaman enh, 1050 fishing skill, startet at 3am in middle of week, not ganked even once. Got Old Ironjaw as 166th catch.

Few advices:

1. You need headphones. It is easiest way to hear bobber sound.
2. Set game audio really loud, but only for bobber sound. Turn off other sounds like music etc.
3. Do what you want in windows. I watched youtube.
4. Hit ALT-TAB when is something on hook (splash sound of bobber). You will be using ALT-TAB every 5-15 seconds.
5. Zoom game much as you can (view from character's eyes). Its a lot easier to click on big bobber ;)
6. Set shortcut for cast fishing. I used spacebar.

PS: Game will be ALT-TABing instantly if you set graphic->resolution for fullscreen windowed. Normal fullscreen takes some time to switch between windows and game.

During this fishing i watched one 30miuntes long YT video, easy and relaxing.

Commentaire de timmy1080

22 Pound Catfish
19 Pound catfish
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish - 69
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper - 137
Raw Brilliant Smallfish - 51

Vieux gueule-de-fer Boom.

Thanks to the guild for sitting around kill alliance while i fish up this beast

Commentaire de Ketho

The last few posts seemed to be very lucky :(

Total: 1390 catches & around 8 hours of procrastinating before it dropped

Commentaire de Eldoctor

Been at it for about an hour and a half! nothing. 700 fishing skill +30 for the pole and more for bubbles and lures.....
3 17lb Catfish, 2 19lb Catfish, Young Iron Jaw (for the quest), 157 Longjaw Mud Snapper, 60 Whisker Catfish, 51 Smallfish and 1 lesser mana potion! Time to have a break and come back another time?

Commentaire de Baleraze

I got this after about 1000 Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers in te Forlorn Cavern

600 Fishing Skill + 75 on the lure

Standing just near the water's edge, to the right side of the cavern

Commentaire de 1390928

this took me 14 casts. 6 min left on the lure, what to do now?

Commentaire de Zidane3838

1,750 catches and still no Ironjaw yet...

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper x 1,058
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish x 365
Raw Brilliant Smallfish x 312
19 Pound Catfish x 3
17 Pound Catfish x 5
Pettern: Hillman's Leather Vest
Lesser Mana Potion x 8
Lesser Healing Potion x 3
Malachite

Commentaire de wraithslayer

Tracked with Fishing Buddy. Haven't fished in Ironforge, before. Took a couple hours, give or take.

Total: 324 | Skill: 700+35 (735)
Lutjan à longue mâchoire (204 : 63.0%)
Poisson-chat moustachu (66 : 20.4%)
Goujon brillant (50 : 15.4%)
Potion de soins inférieure (2 : 0.6%)
Rouleau à musique : Montagne glaciale (1 : 0.3%)*
Vieux gueule-de-fer (1 : 0.3%)

(*Not sure this is representative, since you can't fish it up multiple times.)

Commentaire de Winfree

Just go to say how this can be purely RNG dependent.
Total: 58
28 Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers
21 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
8 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1 Old Ironjaw

Total: 1375
825 Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers
319 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
222 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
2 Lesser Healing Potion
1 Lesser Mana Potion
5 17 Pound Catfish
1 Old Crafty

My total fishing skills was 1145

Commentaire de Bruno454

Got mine after 428 casts...

I caught:
256 Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers
75 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
94 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
1 17 Pound Catfish
1 19 Pound Catfish
1 Old Ironjaw... finaly!

Took me about 3 hours

700 fishing skill + 30 (Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole) + 100 (Tentacled Hat) + 200 (Worm Supreme)
Total = 1030 skill

Commentaire de Drusin

Got mine after 1,205 casts spread out over 3 days. I did it on a level 65 alt that didn't have fishing so I learned it right across from where I was fishing and my skill points are at 519/600 now.

Commentaire de Takezow

Got it today after almost 1 week fishing and over 2k casts (right side of the pool).

Keep trying, sometimes it just takes longer.

Commentaire de jamesigl

Obviously I'm a rare case but i just went to forelorn cavarn started fishing and got him on my 7th cast

Commentaire de Xolkan

I just got him on my 9th cast in the Forlorn Cavern with 100 Fishing+Strong Fishing Pole(+5) and Bright Bauble(+75).

5x Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers
2x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
1x Old Ironjaw

Commentaire de Shelassa

2853 casts. Have seen a total of 5 people get the old scaly bugger while on the fishing spree, including a guildie who decided to keep me company while we waited for a BG invite to pop and a lvl 12 gnome. But now, my long hunt is finally over!

Moving to Old Crafty >.>

Results are:

Lutjan à longue mâchoire cru x 1747
Poisson-chat moustachu cru x 586
Goujon brillant cru x 485
Potion de soins inférieure x 9
Poisson-chat de 17 livres x 7
Potion de mana inférieure x 6
Poisson-chat de 19 livres x 5
Poisson-chat de 22 livres x 3
Lutjan boursouflé x 1
Sac vert en cuir x 1
Gilet de disciple x 1
Formule : Enchantement de brassards (Polyvalence mineure) x 1

And, finally,

Vieux gueule-de-fer x 1

Commentaire de spartanmk2

7-28-16
Patch 7.0.3

Fished up Old Ironjaw this morning, took 2hrs and 292 casts.

Have some good music and/or reading material beforehand.

Commentaire de Oswaldovzki

I just want to share my bad luck and frustration: more than 1600 casts (more than 6 hours of pure fishing) and all I've got was: 970 Mud Snapper, 369 Catfish, 252 Brilhantfish, 9 17 Pound Catfish, 1 19 Pound Catfish, 2 Bloated Mud Snapper, 3 Equipment, 6 Lesser mana potion and 2 Lesser health Potion. Anyway.. never give up, never give in!

Commentaire de Nexcrome

I got Ironjaw after 10 minutes! I feel like the luckiest persone alive!

Commentaire de Albtraum

If anyone interesed, Vieux gueule-de-fer can be fished up by veteran twinks (i.e. on Battle.net account that doesn't have active World of Warcraft subscription).
Took me about three evenings. Tried it before, of course, but not that hard.
Total catches (for ~1950 casts):
×1168 Lutjan à longue mâchoire cru
×433 Poisson-chat moustachu cru
×320 Goujon brillant cru
×9 Poisson-chat de 17 livres
×5 Poisson-chat de 19 livres
×2 Potion de soins inférieure
×2 Potion de mana inférieure
×1 Brassards de lieur de sort
×1 Vieux gueule-de-fer — finally!

Commentaire de elunifeimos

Just registered to post this, because I think it's an extraordinary thing that happened to me - I caught two Ironjaws in one cast!
Here is the story. I fished for Old Ironjaw sporadically over about a month with close to a thousand casts in total. In parallel I was queuing and doing dailies. Today the local fishing daily was for the Young Ironjaw. As usual I had a few casts with other fish and then I got the quest objective. And all of a sudden at the same moment I got an achievement. At first I did not quite realize what happened, I did not expect to catch the Old one (you know you shouldn't with such rare fish) and the icons for both fish are identical. Then I checked my bag to verify and yes! there were two Ironjaws, Young and Old.
So it's not only possible to catch Old Ironjaw while fishing for the Young, but it's possible to catch the whole family of them in the same cast, wow!

Commentaire de NessieMo

When fishing in the Folorn Cavern in Ironforge, you have a chance to catch Vieux gueule-de-fer, which awards the achivement Vieux gueule-de-fer.

Grimnur Brandepierre, at the top of some steps, and visible by the daily quest he offers, is a fishing trainer.
If you walk past him and enter the building, you'll find Tansy Flaquabulle, who sells fishing supplies.

It took me 530 casts, using an alt with a skill level of approximately 500 to 600.
Lutjan à longue mâchoire cru
Maquereau ombré cru
Goujon brillant cru
Potion de mana inférieure
Poisson-chat de 17 livres
Vieux gueule-de-fer

Good luck!

Commentaire de Radahunter

Adding my results: 800 Skill Level + 60
364 Longjaw Mud Snapper
122 Bristle Whisker Catfish
112 Brilliant Smallfish
2 Lesser Mana Potion
1 Lesser Healing Potion
1 17 Pound Catfish
1 Old Ironjaw

Commentaire de Currently

I caught Vieux gueule-de-fer after 81 attempts using the Pêcheur de Terradiance. My fishing skill was 860.

Commentaire de MizzMizery

Don't hate me but it was literally 4 casts :P 800 fishing - no pole - no lure

Commentaire de hotcore

Did this grind in 8.0 and got old ironjaw in about 500 casts.

Commentaire de Embrae

I've just catch this second time with my 61 level horde char.
Even though goin' in ironforge was hard, but once i made it i peacefully cast 437 times and caught oldie.
my fishing skill was 1 when i started and ended up 246. Also i didn't use any pole or lure.

These are what i caught:

248 x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
89 x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
76 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
5 x Tattered Cloth
4 x Weeds
3 x Sickly Fish
3 x Lesser Healing Potion
2 x Lesser Mana Potion
2 x Driftwood
1 x Rock
1 x Pattern: Red Line Robe
1 x 17 Pound Catfish
1 x 19 Pound Catfish
1 x Old Ironjaw

Years ago when i first caught that Ironjaw i casted 1626 times! So don't worry open up a music and enjoy.
Cheers,,

Commentaire de zacharyfruhling

Here is my cast tally from the Forlorn Cavern in Ironforge:

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 822
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish: 280
Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 248
19 Pound Catfish: 5
17 Pound Catfish: 3
Lesser Healing Potion: 3
Lesser Mana Potion: 2
Old Ironjaw: 1

Total: 1,364 Casts

Commentaire de Jonnyguk

Have you come to this page to see what other people have experienced? Probably not. RNG is RNG, it doesn't matter if one person gets it in 1 cast or 4000. Just know that Vieux gueule-de-fer will eventually drop. It took me hours... Just keep going. Good luck.

Commentaire de Habbiitz

I did it!

Total time spent fishing: 37m

Casts: 164

Catches:
90 Longjaw Mud Snapper
42 Bristle Whisker Catfish
29 Brilliant Smallfish
1 Lesser Healing Potion
1 17 Pound Catfish
1 Old Ironjaw

Fishing skill after catch 162

Commentaire de Frantiska

1664

Commentaire de davemanvell

Took a bit over 3,900 casts to catch him. Ughhhhh..... :(

Commentaire de feryadi

I got this with a starter edition. It took 200-300 casts.

Commentaire de Hulinutt

Just 258 attempts and got it.

Commentaire de Rainy94

I got:

Longjaw Mud Snapper 4581
Bristle Whisker Catfish 1696
Brilliant Smallfish 1431
17 Pound Catfish 24
Lesser Mana Potion 17
Lesser Healing Potion 19
22 Pound Catfish 4
19 Pound Catfish 7
Bloated Mud Snapper 6
Green Items 5
Old Ironjaw 1

Total Casts: 7791

Commentaire de TorbIsThicc

Only took me 130-ish casts for Old Crafty in Org, but I am now ~~2,251~~ 3,135 casts into my hunt for Old Ironjaw. RNGesus giveth and RNGesus taketh away. The journey continues onward!

Commentaire de Naflie

Got it after around 50 tries in Ironforge-The Forlorn Cave, was pretty empty and guards didnt notice me at all, just use your Underlight Angler and go get your fish! :) Good luck to all of you.
Proof: https://imgur.com/GnNm5Kk

Commentaire de Marchenoir

23 casts got me Old Crafty
2541 casts and I still don't have Old Ironjaw...

Good thing you can alt tab and watch a serie or something while fishing or I would have gone insane already.

Commentaire de Lombax94

Omg, guys, I prepared everything, drinks, snaks, favourite show to watch In the meantime, use toys to make my bait big, apply candy on fishing pole.

I caught it on secound time. Spend like 30 secounds just looking at it, and then I laught.

Commentaire de Tante1

1635 attempts - just got the old ironjaw :)

Commentaire de sanchez332

Finally caught him today after 3247 casts.

Commentaire de Emazriel

I was watching a documentary so was gonna camp Aeonaxx but decided to try for Old Ironjaw, took me 47 casts lol.

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper x 24
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish x 9
Raw Brilliant Smallfish x 6
Weeds x 3
Sickly fish x 1
Tattered cloth x 1
17 Pound Catfish x 1
The 1 Ring x 1
Old Ironjaw x 1

Commentaire de HAHS

i got it today 11 june 2021
around 354 cast

Commentaire de Sorrowsong

Just caught him! I would like to thank all the chill Alliance people on Antonidas for just ignoring me, and letting me fish.

Total time : 7hrs 26mins
1198 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
438 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
354 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
10 17 pound Catfish
2 19 pound Catfish
4 Lesser Healing Potion
5 Lesser Mana Potion
Bard's Tunic of the Aurora
Spellbinder Robe
Old Ironjaw

What a pain. But at least I never have to do it again :)

Commentaire de BlooMunKy

Gave up on this one years ago, went to IF today to get the pet battle achievement and thought I'd try for it again for half an hour, caught him after 10 casts so hopefully the drop rate is better these days.

Good luck fellow Horde!

Commentaire de CBMgaming

Cast numbers at the Forlorn Cavern in Ironforge: October 12th, 2021

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper: 61
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish: 24
Raw Brilliant Smallfish: 19
Music Roll: Cold Mountain: 1
Old "Pirate" Map: 1
Lesser Healing Potion: 1
Stranglekelp: 2
Soldier's Boots of the Quickblade: 1
Old Ironjaw: 1

Total Casts: 111

Commentaire de Gripps

I already had this achievement on another character but wanted it on my "achievement main." I was using Perche de Pêche Pleine Puissance and had a maxed out fishing level when I started.

Lutjan à longue mâchoire cru = 128 caught
Goujon brillant cru = 29 caught
Poisson-chat moustachu cru = 46 caught
Potion de soins inférieure = 1 caught
Vieux gueule-de-fer = 1 caught

Total items = 205 caught

Commentaire de MozzFreddy

Takes about the same time to obtain than the LOREMASTER achievement/title LOL

well not true. I got loremaster before and still no ironjaw haha

Commentaire de avveka

it took me exactly 54 trys to get him.
Maybe droprate increased?

Commentaire de FlyingBearBomb

Just completed this achievement today.
I spent two hours in Ironforge as Horde in the usual spot (Forlorn Cavern) caught over 200 fish with no luck.
Finished leveling my vanilla fishing up to 300 in EPL and went back, caught Old Ironjaw in 12 casts.
Do yourself a favor and have your fishing up to max before you go after this one.

Commentaire de plethorex

68 casts in the Forlorn Cavern, Ironforge

38 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
15 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
11 Raw Brilliant Sunfish
1 Music Roll: Cold Mountain
1 17 Pound Catfish
1 19 Pound Catfish
1 Old Ironjaw

Commentaire de Bayur

I caught that one first time around 10 years ago. Today again after 2107 attempts with the same char.

GL

Commentaire de thepita

Took me just 28 casts to catch this guy:

Lutjan à longue mâchoire cru x16
Poisson-chat moustachu cru x6
Goujon brillant cru x4
Potion de mana inférieure x1

And Vieux gueule-de-fer x1 :)

I've seen some people say it's taken them over 100 casts, a couple even over 500. Just keep on keepin' on and I know you'll catch that ol' rascal soon!

Commentaire de Zamood

Got mine finally after 560 attempts.

325x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
133x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
94x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
2x Lesser Healing Potion
2x Lesser Mana Potion
2x 19 Pound Catfish
1x Music Roll

1x Old Ironjaw!

Commentaire de RetakeCTRL

Just got him after 25 casts.

Commentaire de TheBigDeeb

I just caught Vieux gueule-de-fer With 19325 Total Cast in Wednesday @ 6:52 AM EU Time 9/21/2022 after server restart I got it with 92 casts after the server reset and Auto loot was ON so don't worry about loot

Commentaire de Kamonas

I had 1274 casts to get this.

Commentaire de Zilverblade

Found this after 51 attempts

Found Old Ironcraft after 15 atteempt

Commentaire de Lemon65

Caught Old Ironjaw after 3 days of fishing in ironforge

Total Casts: ~1,269

766 x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
280 x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
193 x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
6 x 17 Pound Catfish
1 x 19 Pound Catfish
1 x Lesser Healing Potion
4 x Lesser Mana Potion
1 x Old Ironjaw

Commentaire de DearJenny

Spent a whole day on and off in IF as horde. Had a few alliance fishing buddies(one fished up Ironjaw and I /cheer'ed) and one annoying warlock kept sending a minion to interrupt my fishing and then would run and hide. Max fishing across all expansions, no lures used. My final count for those that enjoy anecdotal statistics:

1093 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper (60.65%)
393 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish (21.81%)
302 Raw Brilliant Smallfish (16.76%)
2 19-Pound Catfish (0.11%)
3 17-Pound Catfish(.17%)
4 Lesser Mana Potions(.22%)
4 Lesser Healing Potions(.22%)
1 Old Ironjaw (.06%)

1802 total catches

Commentaire de zecmo

Seems i was decently lucky, did this all in one day in a few sessiosns.
Was just about to give up when...

Total Loots: 477
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper - 292
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish - 96
Raw Brilliant Smallfish - 82
Lesser Healing Potion - 3
Blue Leather Bag - 1
17 Pound Catfish - 1
19 Pound Catfish - 1
Old Ironjaw - 1

Also, it may just be superstition, but I read through the comments and saw posts about water walking and fishing in the "deepest part of the cavern (my bobber was literally against the wall most of the time)".
So yeah, I'm a Shaman, gave it a shot, did that for the last 50 casts or so.
Worked for me?

Commentaire de Binkks

It took me roughly 80 minutes and 346 casts today at the Forlorn Cavern, Ironforge today. I had Master's Wildercloth Fishing Cap (level 4), Aquatic Shades, and Khaz'gorite Fisherfriend (level 5) equipped.

Commentaire de Harmsway

Here are the numbers from my experience. Happy fishing.

960 Lutjan à longue mâchoire cru
357 Poisson-chat moustachu cru
279 Goujon brillant cru
010 Poisson-chat de 17 livres
003 Potion de mana inférieure
003 Potion de soins inférieure
001 Lutjan boursouflé
001 Vieux gueule-de-fer
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1614 total catches

0 number of times an Allied attacked me
4 number of times an Allied waved at me

Commentaire de Mistvessel

1156th attempt, random lvl 60 alliance toon with fishing learned at trainer and without anything else.

Commentaire de Mathianas

I got it after, uh, 9 casts.

Good luck, guys.

Commentaire de thebl4ckd0g

Finally got it after about 500 casts today (although over the years have, tried to fish it up here and there for 2-3 hours on end. But I finally got him today. So don't give up hope! :)

Commentaire de GRiMtox

Got a bit luckier than with Old Crafty and looted him in only 1/3 of the time.

My stats:

1,5 hours
513 total casts

305 - 59.5% - Longjaw Mud Snapper
117 - 22.8% - Bristle Whisker Catfish
087 - 17.0% - Brilliant Smallfish
002 - 00.4% - 17 Pound Catfish
001 - 00.2% - Lesser Mana Potion
001 - 00.2% - Old Ironjaw

Commentaire de Belleniel

I used the Underlight Angler fishing rod and the Oversized Bobber (toy) - I definitely recommend the bobber, it's so much bigger and easier to click than the standard lure.

Did this as Horde in Ironforge during Dragonflight and ran into 4 Alliance Players, all of which left me alone.

Time spent fishing: 7 hours (with probably a 30 min break spread out)
Total number of casts: 1141

What I fished up:

870 X Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
310 X Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
246 X Raw Brilliant Smallfish
7 X 17 Pound Catfish
3 X Lesser Healing Potion
3 X Lesser Mana Potion
1 X Spellbinder Boots

and finally

1 X Old Ironjaw

This one definitely is harder than Old Crafty, which I fished up last month, both in terms of number of casts and accessibility. It's not for the faint of heart.

I watched 4 movies back to back to pass the time and also tried setting up a betting system for my guildies in Discord. No one guessed correctly.

Good Luck!

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