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Commentaire de Gloraison

Pour accomplir ce Haut-Fait, il faut activer les 4 cristaux qui se trouvent dans le monde parallèle où l'on affronte nos ombres, chaque cristal augmentant de 25% les dégâts subis par le raid.
En pratique, il suffit de descendre le Sha à moins de 10%, de préférence, puis d'attendre une phase contre nous-mêmes pour récupérer les 4 cristaux et éliminer les adds. Il est également possible d'activer les cristaux en 2 phases si vous n'êtes pas certain de votre heal ni de votre DPS sur les adds, n'oubliez pas que s'ils restent en vie ils régénèrent une grande quantité de HP au sha !
Une fois tous les cristaux ramassés, une furie peut aider à détruire les ennemis rapidement avant d'achever le sha.

Bon courage !

Commentaire de Marvin10

Pour accomplir ce haut fait il faudras,

Être dans une phases Aux frontières du réel.
Tué trois Chimère de doute par phase Aux frontières du réel.
Une personne du groupe activer deux Graine du doute pas plus.
Répété les étape 2 fois en phases Aux frontières du réel.

Attention le débuff Graine du doute reste 60 seconde.

Vidéos du haut fait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hf3H1pktsc

Evité de faire le haut fait avec plusieur CAC dans le groupe a cause du débuff Toucher de néant

Commentaire de Boxofbeer

Les germes du doute https://youtu.be/ph6N_rU9uUw?t=109

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Commentaire de 79637

At the last boss when the shadow addds spawn - preferably at low health of the boss (~5%); kill four of the five and let one person in your raid click the four shadow shards in the four corners of the room. Then kill the last shadow mob and kill the boss.

Commentaire de Ivanetta

We found it easier to spread the damage over time instead of popping all shards at once:

Start the boss.
Kill 4 adds, leave the tank add up, activate one shard, then finish tank's add.
During the second wave - repeat step 2.
During the third (and last wave) - pop the third shard in the beginning, kill 4 adds, then activate the last shard, and kill the tank's add.
Finish the boss.

Commentaire de mannaroth

We made a video tutorial on how to complete this achievement, you can view it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hf3H1pktsc

The easiest way to do this is to get the boss to extremely low HP (less than 10%). Have one person assigned to click the crystals, and make sure when the add phase occurs that his add is killed first, so he can run around without risking death. Click all four crystals, and then make sure your party kills any remaining adds before the phase ends, or the Sha will heal a lot.

Each crystal puts a debuff on your raid and does damage. The debuff increases damage taken by 25% per stack, so you take 100% extra damage with 4 stacks.

Commentaire de Thiagorz

I have a nice tactic if u have 2 dks on your group.

DPS down the boss to 10% and when he summon the 5 illusions spread your party in 2 groups (one in each side of the room).

Then, dps down 4 illusions, maintain one alive and use the two anti-magic zone from your dks on the 2 groups... then, pick all 4 seeds, kill the last ilussion and kill the boss.

Happy achievement ;D

Commentaire de OldWolf2

Nobody mentioned yet, but the Seeds of Doubt are four clickable crystals that are present in the four corners of the room, but only during the add phases.

I managed to solo this after figuring it out during the fight and not telling the group.. stood in one corner, stop DPS so we get a third add phase just before the boss dies, then Sprint like mad to get all 4 (using healing pot / self-healing to stay alive).

Didn't risk Cloak of Shadows - would be horrible if it removed the debuff! I will test this next time.

Commentaire de GreenSix

To see the positions have a look at the object giving the debuff. Remember it can only be seen in the adds phase.

You can see the debuff here.

Commentaire de xXxSynyster

As a Holy Paladin I did this without telling the group. Went into add phase at 4.6% left on Sha and immediately clicked two of the crystals. I topped up the group, blew my CD's, then grabbed the other two crystals. The group downed the adds and then the Sha without any problem. Holy Shock and Flash of Light took care of the healing without much issue.

Holy Paladin: ilevel 373
Group dps: 100k

Commentaire de MappyT

Method I used was
1. Nuke boss
2. Ignore crystals on first add phase
3. Slow dps at 20%
4. Stop dps at 10% (which corresponded perfectly with second add phase for us)
5. Have one person kill their ghost and pop all 4 for the group (this gives them time to kill their ghosts)
6. Finish boss.

This was with a LFD group, barely any consideration needed if done properly so most groups wouldn't mind taking an extra 12~ seconds to down a boss. Thanks to the slow on dps, the boss was dead like 3 seconds after add phase ended. 50 seconds left on seeds of doubt.

Commentaire de 1012369

Guys don't be scared at trying this!

Method:
1. Didn't tell anyone...
2. Waited until Sha of Doubt had 2.5M health left.
3. Grabbed 3 Crystals and waited for Healer to heal back the damage.. she didn't so I just grabbed the 4th and crossed fingers.
4. Popped absolutely everything, heals, pots, everything to stay alive as a tank.
5. Sha dropped dead and 5/5 got the achievement.
<< This was done even with a dps afking outside the doors after the boss was pulled >>
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Big explanation:
I just did this with a PuG without informing them at all. When I pulled the 'Sha of Doubt' the stupid priest had decided to afk. So we did it with 3 dps and a pretty mediocre healer. Of course we waited until the boss had only 2.5M health. I gave the healer a bit of time to try and heal all of us before I grabbed the last 'Seed/Crystal' but she didn't heal any of us at all... so I just grabbed it. Put us all on about 25% hp and she popped 'Revive' or whatever it is that a Monk's ultimate healing thing is. The one that heals the entire group to full but has a huge cooldown. Anyway after that we killed the Sha of Doubt pretty quickly. As a Monk tank I just popped everything and used my tiger to Taunt the boss for a moment whilst I healed myself because the healer was kind of bad. Just take care of yourself (if you're the tank) and you'll be fine. If you're the healer, make sure you do your job and heal everyone. Pop an AoE heal etc. if you're a dps. Just pray that everyone else is expecting the damage. If you wipe, simply try again, chances are people won't think it would have been any different from doing the boss normally... Now I just have to do ' Cleaning up ' with a proper party and that serpent is mine!

Commentaire de Sarlis

Achievement Seeds of Doubt Video: http://youtu.be/clYjgYlp8I8

Commentaire de 1221066

Easy to solo as a midgeared warlock, choose grimoire of supremacy + soul leech + soul link, put up demonic circle in a corner, portal across the room, and stand in the third corner, dps till the 1st add phase, kill your add, dps again, on the 2nd add phase get all the crystals, you can easily kite the add with the portals, then kill add, kill boss, profit.

Commentaire de 1372162

took abit of fiddling about to solo this, but the way my lock did it was this:

1. Sacrificial Pact talent - used at the start of first and only shadow phase.
2. Mortal Coil Talent - use when needed
3. Glyph of Healthstone - use when predicting damage or starting to recieve
4. Unbound Will - MUST USE the moment you have your second dose of the magic debuff Touch of Nothingness!)
5. Supremacy Grimoire - Stronger Tank to hold your aggro and survive.
6. save as many Embers as you can for instant emergency healing.
7. Save your doomguard for the final nuke after you have claimed all four crystals, he will slightly make up for your lack of chaos bolts.

enjoy :)

edit: finally added screeny from my chieve, was rather close! (completed back in Pandaria expansion).

Commentaire de bgzkinsella

100 Fury Warrior Ilvl 646

Pretty simple so long as you don't accidently kill the figment before you collect the seeds

. Get the Sha down as low as you can before he sends the figment out, run around the room and collect the 4 of them as quickly as possible, kill figment, then Sha.

Commentaire de natassja72

Shadow Priests - remove Glyph of Reflective Shield!

Also, if you happen not to get all 4 seeds during add phase, you can safely wait for next one, you can dps boss a little when waiting. For some reason one of the crystalsl was bugged and couldn't click it, but on next phase all four new crystals spawned.

Commentaire de jjanchan

Here is a quick and dirty Warlords of Draenor (and beyond) guide to this achievement! I soloed dungeon this as an elemental shaman, and essentially any DPS class and some healing classes can easily do the same at level 100.

I had no problem doing both Le grand nettoyage and Les germes du doute at the same time, with plenty of time to spare.

First, make sure that you get at least 1 Figment of Doubt phase when fighting the Sha du doute. In this phase, the Sha will create a "figment" of each player in the encounter, which is essentially a copy that attacks the corresponding player. Killing this figment will end the Figment of Doubt phase. At level 100, it is possible to kill the boss fast enough that one of these phases never materializes! What I recommend is bringing the boss down to about 10-15% and waiting for the Figment of Doubt phase.

There are 4 purple crystals that spawn at each of the corners of the room during the Figments of Doubt phase. The crystals are floating above the ground, so you need to stand beneath them to be able to click them. Each crystal gives you a stack of the debuff Graine du doute, and so clicking all four gives you 4 stacks (hence 100% increased damage taken). Clicking the crystals itself will do some damage, so be vigilant of that and heal up as necessary, or use damage mitigation to ensure you don't get too low. Also, do not use any ability that would clear the debuff, as you need to have 4 stacks when you kill the Sha du doute. The debuff lasts 1 minute.

It's important that you don't end the phase early (i.e. kill your figment early). Avoid anything that does passive damage, including pets, so that your figment stays alive and you have time to click all four crystals.

If something goes wrong, and you can't get 4 stacks that phase, simply kill your figment and wait for the next Figment of Doubt phase. Otherwise, you can end the phase with your 4 stacks and proceed to finish the boss off!

TL;DR version:

DPS the boss low and wait for Figment of Doubt phase
Click all 4 crystals at the corners of the room
Kill your figment, then kill the boss

Commentaire de Leynie

I didn't find the answer in the previous comments, so for anyone else who wants to know: only one person in your party has to get the crystals! My husband and I just got the achievement and he was the only one to get them. Now you know!

Commentaire de neekapkilla

For level 100 solo:

When you go into phase that your double comes out crystals will spawn in the corners slightly in the air. If you kill your double the crystals will go away. Get the boss in a killable range at very start of fight, when your double spawns quickly sprint/jump/dash/blink/engineer belt etc. around the room to get 4 stacks of the buff, then finish the boss. Achievement earned.

Commentaire de Cantralian

Oh dear. Be very careful (684 ilvl BM hunter) and dps the boss slowly--really slowly--or he will die with no add phase and you will miss your chance for the day. I was not expecting the add phase to be 'optional', for want of a better word.

Commentaire de Boxofbeer

Seeds of Doubt https://youtu.be/ph6N_rU9uUw?t=109

Commentaire de CataBreed

Just did this and all you have to do is sit and wait till it phases to shadow realm, go click the cog wheel and wait, repeat 3 more times, then kill the Sha of doubt.

Commentaire de Apiecost

Trivial at level 110. Temple du Serpent de jade is in La forêt de Jade in Pandaria.

Progress through the instance to the boss and start the fight - but don't kill the boss. Periodically the boss will spawn an add - and during this time you'll see a crystal floating in each of the four corners of the area. While the add is up you'll be able to cog the crystals and receive a debuff that lasts 60 seconds. Click as many of the crystals as you can.

The mobs will do very little damage so basically just ignore them. I had to let a second add be summoned to get the last two crystals but the debuff was not in danger of falling off. Once you have a stack of 4 up kill the boss.

Commentaire de gibster99

If you are an idiot like me. The crystals spawn all around the room. Do not dps the boss. Wait for 1 min until he does the shadow spawn thing. Then go around the room and click the crystals. The add will die. NOW kill the boss. Do not sit at one point and try to get 3-4 stacks of buff from 1 crystal (it is not possible as the timer is about 60 seconds between spawns). There are 5 crystals around the room not just one. The crystals despawn when the add dies. So don't kill the add.

Commentaire de applebear

At high level , no need to dps him down any as you take no damage...just wait for him phase. Go grab crystals in the four corners, and give a quick aoe swipe or whatever to kill adds...then down him. I wasn't quite quick enough to get all four crystals the first phase , but no worries...it turned out there was enough time for another phase to grab a crystal the next time round.

Commentaire de Caztaneda

As of 8.3...Strip naked. Just main hand weapon, Loewe ilvl the better. The Wise Mari can easly bug out. Then just out attack last boss (achiv) so you trigger ”Add phase”...run around fast and click crystals that are in the room. Done...:)

Commentaire de albinoette

Walked up to him to get aggro (max level, decent ilvl, patch 8.3.7), turned away so I didn't accidentally kill him. You are soul separated around 16-20 seconds into the fight. Once you are debuffed you can see the crystals in the corners and interact with them. Once you've clicked all 4 (I was able to do this in one go), you are free to kill your shadow and the boss.

Commentaire de deepspace8

Level 60 Shadowlands mage
The other instructions are fine for the most part, except now I don't think you have to wait until the boss is so low on health, because the debuffs don't affect us that much. So, I wouldn't risk it. Also, you have to use Whole-Body Shrinka', otherwise just punching this guy with no weapon equipped as a mage is enough to kill him in one hit.

Commentaire de BlooMunKy

As a lvl 60 Fury Warrior in SL

1. Clear everything up to Sha of Doubt.
2. Go outside and take off all armour and weapons.
3. Fly up high, dismount and die, respawn at the graveyard to get Resurrection Sickness.
4. Run back inside and engage Sha.
5. Punch him to within 10% health (Figment of Doubt will spawn along the way, you can safely kill these)
6. At around 10% health left on the Sha stop attacking and wait for another Figment of Doubt to spawn, don't kill this one yet.
7. Run to all 4 corners and click the 4 floating shards (Seeds).
8. Re-equip your weapons, Kill Figment of doubt, then kill the Sha.

Hope this helps.

Commentaire de Sluggzo

This is pretty easy to solo in Shadowlands at 60.

1) Set dungeon to Heroic and clear everything up to Sha of Doubt (final boss)
2) Strip naked, especially your weapons. At 60, you'll take no damage.
3) Simply engage Sha, don't hit it.
4) Wait 15-20 seconds for your soul to separate
5) In the four corners of the room are four crystals. Click all four. (If you can't click all four before the first soul phase ends, just let the sha and your shadow self pound on you until the next soul separation phase.)
6) Once you've clicked all four crystals and your buff is at four, equip a weapon and kill Sha.
7) Profit!

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