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Commentaire de Thrakin

Very likely the new VoA-style raid instance.

Commentaire de Thrakin

Yes, I know, I was referring to the fact that this zone is very likely that raid. Reading comprehension ftw.

Commentaire de Pheonixfire

Around Voa's Pve and PVP loot this will probally introduce the same concept. Possibly even a weekly quest to kill one of the bosses in the Hold seeing how Tol Barad will become a major Daily quest hub.

Commentaire de 503640

Isn't that exactly what VoA is? An raid with a map designed to add more wings later on, that is available on a tug-of-war zone by the occupying faction? The only thing that might be different will be the actual style and skin of the mobs we fight in it.

Also, here's hoping that it will be full of prisoners of some kind, since Tol Barad is a prison if I recall.

Commentaire de Nulgar

"Baradin Hold" is quiiite close to "Tol Barad", and did you hear of another instance in relation to that island, even one worth such a map?

Commentaire de 561234

According to the achievement, the boss is named Argaloth.

Sounds like some sort of monster to me, and not a prisoner.

Commentaire de 195877

Yes. Because nobody EVER imprisons monsters...

Commentaire de 477939

i like him

Commentaire de 626581

How come it says you have to be level 86? I thought Cataclysm level cap was 85?

Commentaire de masoud18

it is a raid... the lvl does not meather

Commentaire de themguyman

so whos this argaloth person

Commentaire de Frez

Based on one of the Achievement names, he's a Pit Lord.

Commentaire de undeadflamingo

Well Baradin Hold is the monster-prison. At least wowwiki says something like that.

Commentaire de 667864

If you haven't noticed in the raid browser all raids are 1 level higher than the level cap. :P

Commentaire de Chaosmancer

Captain Obvious to the rescue! :-D

Commentaire de 572232

and not any kind of monster, as the achievement description sais he is a pit lord (see magtheridon), im not sure what is a pit lord/demon doing in the cataclysm lore, hope we gonna find out soon.

Commentaire de tntmax

Argaloth is very similar to Brutallus in terms of abilities and strategy needed in order to defeat.
2 tank fight, raid have to split behind tanks to mitigate occasional "slash" dmg. Stacking debuff on frontal cone foes, taunt between the split groups.
Few times it starts to call fires from the sky, just need to constantly move to avoid it, this lasts for like 10 seconds, then back to tank and spank.

Commentaire de cereppy

Ug plz no VoA style *horde never won WG in the relm Thunderlord...* *We sucked*

Commentaire de Sedge

Well Tol Barad and WG are being balanced to a 1-1 ratio of ppl let in, so if the scrubs stay out and your good pvpers go it wont be a numbers game like it is on my server. 13 stacks of tenacity is fun, losing all the time is not!

Commentaire de triggz

The entrance & meeting stone is located just to the left of the "B" of "Baradin Hold" on the map.

Commentaire de USMCDiablo

I wouldn't count on this. The battle seems horribly imbalanced at the moment making it near impossible for the offensive side to win.

Commentaire de 695993

Strategy guide:
Entire raid must split in 2 groups of 5 peoples and each group need to hug 1 tank (marking tanks work idealy here). Boss will cast meteor slash every 18 sec hitting tank for 200k damage but damage will be spited between every 1 close to tank. Meteor slash leave stacking debuff that increase fire damage taken by 100% for 20 sec on every 1 hitted by it (taunting by other tank after every meteor slash will keep this from wiping your group).
At 66% and 33% of boss max hp boss will start 2 sec cast and then continue 10-15 sec long channel spell "fel firestorm" it hit random raid members every 0.5 sec for 7-8k damage and leave fire spot on place where it hit which inflict additional 7-8k fire damage to everyone in it. All flame is removed after fel firestorm end. Berserk is 5 min. so your raid group will need 12k overall dps
He drops t11 pve and pvp set parts same as it.
Best time for bloodlust is right after first fel firestorm end.

Commentaire de 633552

45ak3n next time... dont post such a stupid thing if you dont know enything about the lore.
the demons (that includes pitlords) where brought to azoreroth by the group of night-elfes called the highborn. it would destroy the world if the demons master (sargeras) would come into azeroth.
to battle this nethilion the earthwarden (deathwing the destroyer) created the dragon soul (demon soul) and used that to not only clear lots of demons from the lands but also most of the blue dragon flight... then he dissapeared until in the day of the dragon he was driven to deepholm.

thats how a pit lord/demon came into cata lore. so next time do your homework.

Commentaire de Pelagon

Really? Homework on game lore? What happened to living your life? /Facepalm

You may not have heard this before... but some people play for fun and may not care about the lore...

Commentaire de luxbot

Anyone know the iLvl to get in here?

Commentaire de 633552

i can understand that but then dont post a comment like that...

Commentaire de 626156

HEY GUYS, HEY GUYS, IS ANYONE ELSE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING A GROUP FOR BARADIN HOLD? I SEE NO ONE RECRUITING AFTER TB. IT MIGHT BE A COINCIDENCE, MAYBE I WAS JUST UNLUCKY. OR IS ALALAGROTH REALLY HARD OR SOMETHING? BUT THEN AGAIN HOW HARD THE RAID IS NEVER STOPPED PUGS FROM STARTING.

Commentaire de BobTheGreat

Cool story bro

Commentaire de Qoko

With news tiers and raids released we'll see the release of Emaloth, Koraloth and Toraloth. Originality ftw.

Commentaire de 633552

dude this is not wrath of the lich king...
this is so much harder... pugs wont be able to kill cho'gal on norm, and i dont think they are even dreaming on getting lady sinestra down

but in your case... JOIN A GUILD... and stop with the CAPSLOCK...

Commentaire de 656966

actually, the highborne were not night elves, they were the group of elves that eventually evolved into the high elves, which, gave birth to the offshoot of blood elves. night elves were an offshoot of the kaldorei along with the highborne. also, his name was Neltharion, the Earth-warder. not nethilion. if you are going to proclaim yourself as a lore buff, dont make such noobish mistakes. also, dont be a $%^& to people. calmly explain the reasoning without insulting.

Commentaire de Daralyn

well...mayby also try write right names of Aspects... it is not nethilion but Neltharion if you are so eager about Lore

Commentaire de Gallis

Alliance had this when everyone started hitting 85 for ~a week. Horde caught up and took it back, since then I don't think we've lost it.

Commentaire de 195877

Blood elves aren't an offshoot of high elves, they are the same race, they just happened to be the group of high elves that betrayed the alliance due to their lust for magic.

PLAY WARCRAFT 3 FOOL

Commentaire de 418714

Something that needs to be added to the "info" section on this instance: To enter Baradin Hold, you must have item level 345 gear and higher and link the achievement. If not you will be denied entrance to this raid. Welcome to idiots making an easy instance annoying.

Commentaire de dontrike

Here is hoping that all of the other bosses that will be here will be similar to Sunwell bosses.

Picturing ledge boss in here now.

Commentaire de Ilivdorl

Jesus, it's like listening to a bunch of comic book nerds debate minutiae nobody outside their little six-man clique knows the first thing about. Lore is wonderful, but cramming three different shades of it down each other's throats is just lame.

I think that the vast majority of WoW players have, AT BEST, a passing interest in the lore, and those who have any interest at all don't care about the slightest irrelevant detail. It's like hearing something along the lines of "Oh my god, you moron, everyone knows that Batman's bed is 9 inches off the ground, not 8" /rolleyes. Too minute for anyone to care.

Peace ;)

Commentaire de myman1111

i dont wanna be the bad guy but the level for this raid is just a tiny bit off lets down this say 68m lvls

Commentaire de inmanjm

everyone knows that Batman's bed is 9 inches off the ground, not 8

Batman sleeps on the ceiling. :P

Commentaire de LeLORD

whats batman ?

Commentaire de 738359

Does anyone know what is the minimum level required to be summoned by someone at the summoning stone?

Commentaire de 436641

I'm pretty sure the highbourne were night elves. I think you are the one that is mistaken.

Commentaire de mkrivacek

Because portal in SW to Tol Barad requires level 85 and this raid instance requires level 85, I think summoning stone requires level 85 :D Maybe I'm wrong :P

Commentaire de 712874

Calmly, rationally and without insulting... like you just did, right?

Commentaire de 247577

A very important note: you cannot do both the 10 and 25 man of this instance within the same reset. As a tank, this is very important to know. If you tank the 10 man, you get 2 chances at your loot dropping against your maybe-not-even-the-same-class counterpart. On 25 man, you get SIX chances of your loot dropping against the exact same odds.

I would say the same is true for healers, but I'm not sure how man healers this requires on 25. I was the idiot who wasted his week's kill.

Commentaire de Consar

i did some calculations about raising your chances by doing baradin hold 25 man instead of 10 man class run. with this setup, you'll get a minimum of +%50 chance for getting one of your MAINSPEC item. as i'm unsure about this "theory", please correct me if i'm wrong.

TANK

warrior 3x more chance for pve gear | 50% more chance for pvp gear
pala 3x more chance for pve gear | 3x more chance-50% more chance for retri 3x more chance-50% more chance for holy pvp gear(depends on the number of those)

HEALER

druid healer 3x more chance for pve gear| 3x more chance for pvp gear
shaman healer 3x more chance for pve gear| 3x more chance for pvp gear
priest healer 3x more chance-50% more chance for pve gear| 3x more chance-50% more chance for pvp gear (depends on the number of healer priest/pala)
pala healer 3x more chance-50% more chance for pve gear| 3x more chance-50% more chance for pvp gear(depends on the number of healer priest/pala)
+priest/paladin

DPS

dk 50% more chance
dk 50% more chance
rogue 50% more chance
rogue 50% more chance
mage 50% more chance
mage 50% more chance
lock 50% more chance
lock 50% more chance
hunter 50% more chance
hunter 50% more chance
feral druid 50% more chance
feral druid 50% more chance
balance druid 3x more chance
shadow priest 50% more chance
enh. shaman 3x more chance
ele. shaman 3x more chance
warrior 3x more chance for pve gear 50% more chance for pvp gear
+priest/paladin 3x more chance-50% more chance(depends on the number of dps priest/pala)

Commentaire de 700177

Why are DKs omitted from your tank list?

I've tanked it several times perfectly successfully, in fact the general consensus is I'm a better tank than a warrior.

I'm sure Druids will be equally offended.

Commentaire de Declaron

10 man - 1 piece of gear per 5 players
25 man - 1 piece of gear per 5 players

but...

your more than likely to have 3 of 5 classes and 2 of the other 5, so depending on your setup your %ages may or may not be relevant. but if you go on the basis that your class has 3 of its type in the run and its dps, there is a 150% higher chance of your classes gear dropping, and 1/3rd chance you will get that gear, so as such to say +50% chance of gear is correct.

Commentaire de Eldente

Does the Baradin Hold close down 15 minutes before combat begins, or can you continue to raid until the very beginning of the BG?

Commentaire de zomg5

just did Baradin Hold today and it was hilarious how the boss drop mage stuff and we don't even have a mage in the raid

Commentaire de blacknexus94

Does anyone know when we will get a new wing in Baradin Hold?

Commentaire de 455649

Does 10 man BH share a lockout with 25 man?
Cause my realm doesn't run 25 man, they say it shares a lockout.....

Commentaire de 729779

It has to be an unfinished raid, because it looks so incomplete: just 2 mobs and 1 boss?

Commentaire de 309491

It'll be 4.2, when the new arena season starts.

Well the map just got updated with a new boss skull and it's for patch 4.1 PTR. Hopefully it's not just for the PTR people to test but for all of us! :D

Commentaire de 668946

what is the deal with the trash? do tanks need to taunt off on trash too or is it a frontal cone that damage is shared amongst all that are hit similar to marroguard's cleave?

Commentaire de 816447

What ilvl do you need for tank 25man?

Knockoutblow (darkspear)

Commentaire de 798897

Just be sure you do 10k+ dps, 25 is practically the same as 10 for BH

Commentaire de Neutralis

I think it would be a good idea to have one side a 25 man and the other side a 10 man. The 25 man one you would fight 2 bosses to where the 10 man would be only one.

Commentaire de qutyre

Real Easy instance, Basically you nuke and than you run in circles XD

Commentaire de 404037

2nd boss will be Occu That and he will look like the core hound in that cage (but in bigger size).

Commentaire de Midgetized

^ agreed, that mob in the cage actually IS Occu, he just gets fatter when he breaks out in 4.2 due to eating all the prisoners in the west wing....this makes him too fat to leave and his gluttony imprisons himself yet again!

Commentaire de Pantsz

I just tried to kill Occu'thar on the PTR, he spawns some eye stuff that does 30k per eye. They spawn on your back so you can't kill you're own eye, but i think you can kill the other party members's. so far i got no clue how to kill this boss.

Commentaire de 838436

this is easily doable with just one tank, just have the 2 groups split up and when he's about to do his cleave the tank runs over to the other group so all the dmg is spread out. I did it 10man very easily using this stratagy.

Commentaire de 844342

Around how much item level do you need to go in it?

Commentaire de 151096

How are you supposed to deal with the new trash in 4.2?

Commentaire de vicarea

so we cleared trash, no occu'thar. we killed argaloth, and no occu'thar. this is june 28, 2011, 3 hours into patch 4.2 on live.
also, argaloth drops 70 JUSTICE points.

Commentaire de 848433

Occu'thar is inactive until Season 10 starts. This is consistent with previous Season launches in Wrath of the Lich King/Vault of Archavon.

Commentaire de voicy

Downed Occu'thar this morning on our 3rd try as a PUG.

Pretty straight forward fight. Very easy for tanks.

Phase1: Tanks swap when debuffed, DPS/Healers spread out. If eye focuses on you, move.
Phase2: Everyone (except active tank) stack and AoE down eyes. Must be done within 10s or players wipe.
Phase3: Same as Ph1, but more eye focusing.

Rinse and repeat.

@Tanks: Tank stands alone away from group, when debuff is cast on you, run back to group and other tank takes over.

Commentaire de EmberDione

Simpler Strat for Occu'thar:

Have the tanks get their spots, and then have EVERYONE else stack up in melee range, on the opposite side of the boss from the tanks.

When he casts focus fire, move to the left (or right) as a group, tanks shift around too. This is *just* like the Theralion phase of V&T with the Fabulous Flames.

This nullifies the group up mechanic (as everyone is already grouped and people can just use their aoe on Occu'thar, allows healers to use aoe heals, and keeps everything neat and clean, no dps loss when moving.

(One shot in pugs with this.)

Commentaire de madyaks

Why is there not an achiev for doing this boss?

Commentaire de madyaks

Why is there no achiev for the new boss?

Commentaire de McFadd

Not only that, but the kill isn't updated in the armory. I've killed him twice now and it isn't registering.

Commentaire de 878413

is there a cooldown or something like that for baradin hold ? because i join bh10 yesterday and now cant join a bh25

Commentaire de SylvanElf

How do you queue up for BH? Should it appear in the LFD menu?

Commentaire de 227109

that was quite usefull thanx

Commentaire de Terrassen

While wearing a pair of headphones: Take a notice of the alarm in the background, it's the Imperial one from Star Wars.

Commentaire de koala12

You can't go in when you set dungeon difficulty to heroic(Maybe you can go after finishing normal, but i don't know it yet). I tryed and searched it for an hour today, finally someone told me try reset all instances and change dungeon difficulty. I didn't get any warning in game.

Commentaire de Araitik

Mage solo Baradin Hold 10 man (3/3)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SDhd0WSLSg

Enjoy :)

Commentaire de Kontwos

This raid is unable to be cross-realmed.

Commentaire de Zidane3838

The coordinates for the entrance can be found at 45.4 47.

/way Tol Barad 45.51 47.04

Commentaire de Xiberion

Is there anyway to do this raid if your faction NEVER controls the zone?

Commentaire de Goodwinn

The MapID of Baradin Hold is 752. This is used for any WoW API function that requires a MapID.

For example, to set your current map to Baradin Hold you can type:

/run SetMapByID(752)

Commentaire de Esago

The portal to Tol Barad is in Stormwind (73:18)
Once you are in Tol Barad travel on the ground to a basement (46:47) enter it and you will find the gate to the Baradin Hold instance.

ps:
By triggz (11,841 – 5·18·129) on 2010/12/09 (Patch 4.0.3) 
The entrance & meeting stone is located just to the left of the "B" of "Baradin Hold" on the map.(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##hatman555##DELIM##

Commentaire de Kreds

can someone please tell me why I can't enter the zone?
I've tried converting a party into a raid 25 and it still doesn't work.
The loading screen loads for a second then jumps out, is this a bug?

Commentaire de Laarnso

Pretty easy solo, just watch out for Alizabal's Seething Hate - can easily wipe as it wasn't tuned down, and hits like a truck. Other two bosses are faceroll, just click them and go make a cup of tea. Each boss gives 25g and I got around 315 for epics, making this raid worth roughly 400g solo - not bad for 10 mins from Stormwind and back :)

Commentaire de eric0707

Baradin Hold Raid Entrance Location --> https://youtu.be/LNmyFC3YhWQ

Commentaire de WoWGnGP

Baradin Hold Entrance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQUbrlqq1P4&feature=youtu.be

Commentaire de Mystterious

How to enter in this place without Queuing for the raid & without queuing in raid finder too plz?

Thank you and have a nice day!

Commentaire de Mystterious

Houston, I have a problem. Can you help me?

I was in front of the portal for Baradin Hold, I could not enter. Can't change heroic raid difficulty to normal raid difficulty too, it was locked. So I left Tol Barad, switch heroic raid diff. 25 man to normal raid diff. 25 man outside Tol Barad, come back in the area by the bridge, and:

Now I cannot pass the door to enter the tunnel where is the portal. Why?

5 min later, the door open. But Inside the tunnel, I still can't get through the portal even if my raid difficulty is Normal / 25 man.

I need help. I invite you to put much detail as possible, do not be embarrassed to write a long novel. I suppose it will help more than just me!

Thank you very much, have a nice day, good game, good luck, have fun!

P.S. Vote down and you do not help at all, you do the opposite. Bravo if you vote up & I hope this post will be on top one day, to help people more!

Commentaire de 500rwcoupe

Seems odd there is no achievement for completing BH. I hadn't done this raid in a long time, and thought maybe I was missing a boss when I ran it on a more recent 100.

You also get Baradin's Wardens reputation for each boss kill each week. On my night elf druid, I think I got 350 rep per boss.

Commentaire de HeKol

On an average of 10 runs Baradin Hold 25NM rewards 329 gold, 3 silver and 39 copper after vendoring dropped gear, including trash.

Commentaire de BlueDragyn

For anyone looking for the portal to Tol Barad on the Horde side, you'll find it on the top level at 47.40, 39.30. You'll see two orc NPCs with a portal between them.

If you don't have a coordinate add-on, fly up/take the elevator to the level where the flight master & zeppelins are. Pull up your map and head over to the area between the I and S in Valley of Wisdom.

Commentaire de lesliejo

Another middle finger from Blizz....After trying to take over Tol-Barad and failing the alliance keeps control of it. Wow a big shock there.....They should have at least made it switch from alliance to horde even if no body is there. Making us access an old raid to get skinning done is just plain STUPID!

Commentaire de YoungCaesar

Fun fact!

if you go in to the tunnel below. And logout to get a drink like me...
When you get in the game again during a battle, the door is closed and you cant go outside!
Trapped like a bug in a underneath temple haha

=)

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Bastion de BaradinArgalothLe Bastion de BaradinTol BaradCaveau d’Archavon

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Argaloth – Incapables de retenir l’imposant seigneur des abîmes Argaloth dans les cellules du fort Pourpre de Dalaran, les magi du Kirin Tor n’ont pas eu d’autre choix que de confiner le puissant démon sous Tol Barad.
Occu’thar – Ce féroce démon se libéra de sa cage et parvint à accéder à l’aile ouest de la prison, dévorant tous les détenus qui s’y trouvaient. La gloutonnerie d’Occu’thar eut pour résultat un corps trop gonflé pour échapper à son environnement, transformant de ce fait cette aile de la prison en sa nouvelle cellule de détention.
Alizabal, maîtresse de la haine – Le Kirin Tor emprisonna Alizabal dans le redoutable fort Pourpre, peu après que des magi corrompus eurent invoqué cette shivarra en Azeroth. Malgré les défenses arcaniques visant à restreindre ses pouvoirs, l’influence néfaste du démon lui permit d’inciter ses deux gardiens à s’entretuer dans un soudain accès de rage. Son transfert au bastion de Baradin peu avant le Cataclysme n’a fait qu’aggraver la condition de plus en plus précaire de la prison en ruines.

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