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Commentaire de MeowRawrWoff

This I got from fishing in my lvl 3 pond. I threw it in and it spawned a Frostdeep Cavedweller and it dropped and . Though I already have I was suprised.

Commentaire de Pwuebear

Spawned a Troglodyte givre-profond that dropped:

31x Super-poisson
15x Poisson-teigne
20x Suprême de vers
Potion de mana draenique
Élixir de marche sur l'eau
Chapeau à tentacules

Commentaire de Enquillion

You can invite a friend, have them phase to your garrison and kill the murloc together. That way you can give away the hat/pole :)

Commentaire de Paquin

Because the mob spawned by this minnow has a chance to drop the time-limited fishing poles and hats, I recommend you save up your multiples rather than using them right away. That is, after you've used 'em and gotten a pole and hat for the next few days, keep any extra minnows you fish up until one or the other expires.

Right now I've got three poles in my inventory and I wish I'd saved my minnows until after they're gone!

Commentaire de 1405395

I just used 5 of these and every time I either got a Chapeau à tentacules or a Canne à pêche éphémère. I even got a Journal détrempé

Commentaire de Todesbote

So how exactly does this work? Can I catch the Minnow and summon the Murloc every day? Only once? A fixed number of times and then I'll never be able to call him again? Anybody know?

Commentaire de skullinjury1

i just received the riding turtle from it. Tortue de monte this little guy.

Commentaire de Vreivai

Does anyone have an estimate as to the catch rate of this? Obviously the listed one will be inaccurate due to people fishing with level 1 and 2 fishing shacks.

Commentaire de Neverknow

These are fished up from the waters in your Garrison, and seem to require a level 3 Fishing Shack before they can be fished up. Throwing one in the water will spawn a Troglodyte de Chutelune/Troglodyte givre-profond which can drop pretty much anything fish-related, from Fishing hats, Nat's Coins, to the fabled Turtle Mounts.

I fish one of these up in about 10, 15 minutes with a rough fishing skill of 1100.

Commentaire de 1405395

Just got 2 Tortue de mers from throwing in 5 more minnows! See the screenshot here https://twitter.com/WoWMarketeer/status/544183480683216896

Commentaire de Maulina

I caught 5 of these from the first 50 minutes (one each worms buff) then nothing the next 50 minutes.

are they a limited daily?

Commentaire de 1419193

I just fished 3 of them up in the lava outside the garrison.

Commentaire de Jerbal

Keep a few of these on you. They summon a when used in your Garrison. When killed, they often drop Chapeau en forme de poisson, Chapeau à tentacules, and/or Canne à pêche éphémère. It's a great way to "keep" some of the duration fishing items on-hand.

In addition, the Cavedwellers have a small chance of dropping Tortue de monte the trading card variant, and Tortue de mer which is the fishing pool variant.

If you invite someone into your garrison, you are able to "give" these items away to someone else.

Commentaire de Bad0Dude

confirmed, you can fish that at the north gate of your garrison at 69.00 5.25 but you can only throw at inside your garrison next to the fishing shack

Commentaire de Damarisalynn

Does anyone know if you can catch one of these while using bait in your garrison pool? Or can you only catch it bait-free? I ask because I'm trying to farm them and worried I'm eliminating my chances by using sea scorpion bait.

Commentaire de milo210

Used to summon Troglodyte givre-profond which have a high drop chance for:
20-50 x Super-poisson
10-20 x Poisson-teigne
20 x Suprême de vers

As well as it always seem to drop one of following items:
Chapeau en forme de poisson
Chapeau à tentacules
Canne à pêche éphémère

Then there is a small chance that it may give special items like:
Chapeau de pêche déformé
Pièce porte-bonheur de Nat
Canne à pêche ornée de joyaux
Tortue de mer
Canne à pêche en os
Clampant des rivages
Tortue de monte
Boussole insolite

Vairon givre-profond is catched while being in your Horde garrison (even outside the walls, if you are still in garrison zone) if you have upgraded to Cabane de pêche Niveau 3.
You can only have up to 5 Vairon givre-profond at a time.
The Alliance equivalent is Carpe de Chutelune which spawn Troglodyte de Chutelune.

Commentaire de Malfious

Took me nearly 13k fish, got the Tortue de monte off of my 189th Minnow. Also got 33x Pièce porte-bonheur de Nat

Commentaire de Tsanov

968 catches, post 6.1
Note: I've used one Appât à furtifs agnathes, then i decided to post the results. So they got a bit impacted..
And here they are.
Croissant-sabre énorme | (654 : 67.6%)
Furtif agnathe énorme | (56 : 5.8%) <- differs from the other enormous fishes because of the bait.
Vairon givre-profond | (36 : 3.7%)
Esturgeon jaune aveugle énorme | (32 : 3.3%)
Enorme grangousier des abysses | (28 : 2.9%)
Scorpion de mer énorme | (27 : 2.8%)
Ammonite de feu énorme | (25 : 2.6%)
Dormeur tacheté énorme | (24 : 2.5%)
Hoki des flots noirs énorme | (23 : 2.4%)
Appât à ammonites de feu | (9 : 0.9%)
Appât à scorpions de mer | (8 : 0.8%)
Appât à esturgeons jaunes aveugles | (8 : 0.8%)
Appât à furtifs agnathes | (8 : 0.8%)
Appât à dormeurs tachetés | (7 : 0.7%)
Appât à hokis des flots noirs | (7 : 0.7%)
Croissant-sabre | (6 : 0.6%)
Appât à grangousier des abysses | (6 : 0.6%)
Dormeur tacheté | (1 : 0.1%)
Furtif agnathe | (1 : 0.1%)
Scorpion de mer | (1 : 0.1%)
Grangousier des abysses | (1 : 0.1%)
I thought about removing the baits from this list as they depend on how regularly you clean your bags, but that would've impacted the percentages.
So i cleaned up my bags every time i had 5 minnows.
I hope this helps.
EDIT: I'm using Canne à pêche éphémère + Suprême de vers and I'm wearing Chapeau à tentacules and Bottes de pêche extrême de Nat Pagle = 1105 skill.
EDIT2: The Tortue de monte dropped from the 88th Troglodyte givre-profond killed post 6.1.

Commentaire de Kidcriticus

I fished up 11 within about 2 hours. Then my 2nd frost Minnow i threw into the water gave me the epic turtle mount. I haven't fished since expac came out and i unlocked nat pagle. With all the new food i decided to fish today. After i caught those 11 fish i stopped catching them continued for about an hour and nothing. ( It was around 7 - 10 am server time on a saturday if that helps) i think it might be a morning thing.

Commentaire de TimeTrap

The most valuable fish in the game.
*soulbound*

Commentaire de Vauxhaul

About 1700 casts and 80 Frostdeep Minnow and I got Riding Turtle . total time 8hrs. Good Luck

Commentaire de tigernest

I seem to do better using Hameçon aiguisé rather than Suprême de vers, especially when using both Canne à pêche éphémère and one of the hats. Makes sense, as a minnow is a small fish. Shouldn't need full fishing power to catch one.

Commentaire de Skiffilufigus

Can anyone confirm that you can fish these out of someone else's garrison as long as you have a lvl 3 fishing shack?

Commentaire de donquixote235

Does anybody know if fishing skill drives the catch rate of these? I'm debating whether using Worm Supreme as bait is having any impact or not.

EDIT: I think fishing skill does drive the catch rate. I tried 30 minutes with no bait and got a total of one (at 900 skill). After 10 minutes with bait (1100 skill) I got three. I realize this is very anecdotal and is a very small sampling, but I'm still pretty confident that your skill does affect your catch rate.

Commentaire de krystal542

Took me 881 casts with 1000 fishing skill, 27 Frostdeep Minnow later and I finally got my Riding Turtle.

Commentaire de Macmagotty

Since the hotfix of 15 September 2015, the same hotfix that broke the display of Realms in Battle.net client, I did not catch a single Vairon givre-profond in the garrison lake. Even allowing for RNG, with 2681 casts, that seems to me pretty conclusive evidence that Blizzard has yet again altered the drop tables for the garrison fishing pool.

Commentaire de Msq77

3 days of farming, about 60 minnows and I got this lovely mount.
Never give up <3

Commentaire de Evellia

I was fishing for the first time in my garrison and on my 13th cast I received my first Vairon givre-profond. The Troglodyte givre-profond dropped:

Chair d'esturgeon jaune aveugle x 26
Potion de mana draenique x 2
Tortue de monte x1
Suprême de vers x2
Fendoir à poisson x1
Chapeau à tentacules x1

Screenshot

Commentaire de Mimilegend

Be careful if you have Auto-loot on. I've fished up one of these before that never actually made it into my inventory, nor postmaster recovered. Could have been a bug, but could be like Old Crafty in Org where auto-loot screws you over.

Commentaire de Kozasky

Can someone confirm that if you own one of these turtles a turtle you own can drop again from the Frostdeep Cavedweller? i suggest since its rng it can happen but im not really sure and its not refered anywhere!

Commentaire de 443794

As of the reset on March 1st 2016 - anybody else notice the drop rate seems to have plummeted?

Commentaire de azteh

Can anyone confirm or deny that you can have a friend come to your garrison with a lvl 3 fishing shack and fish this for themselves if they do not have the fishing shack at lvl 3 in their own garrison?

Commentaire de Zeroheals

Drops Riding and Sea Turtles - 1 in 80 chance for both. Drop Rate is more like 1 in 40.

Commentaire de ahze

These are Unique - (5).
If you happen to have a stack of 5 and catch any more, you WILL be able to see them in the loot window.

However, you will not be able to loot any more.

It will not be sent to your mailbox but be lost forever in the Twisting Nether

Commentaire de Mizkilla

Use caution when using these while in a group/raid. Your group/raid members can roll on your loot if they are in range, regardless of if they hit the mob.

I'm fond of hosting realm hop raids while I fish, and found out the hard way when someone rolled and won stuff from my cavedweller.

Commentaire de Benlron

Has anyone noticed a nerf in the drop rate since 7.0? I havent been able to fish one up.

Commentaire de Gabszz

As the Legion pre-patch was introduced, the loot from the mob spawned is personal loot, which means if you have a group of 40 players, and one player spawns the add, everyone will get the loot from it, so farming the mounts have become A LOT faster! Don't know if this is intended or not, it might get changed soon.

Commentaire de jjanchan

Since the changes to Personal Loot in the Legion pre-patch, the loot from Troglodyte givre-profond and Troglodyte de Chutelune can be looted by EVERYONE in a raid group.
This means that creating a 40-man raid of people that are fishing simultaneously in the garrison can increase your changes of fishing up rare items like Tortue de monte and Tortue de mer by 40 times. There are many such groups in the Group Finder as of late July, 2016.

Note that everyone fishing must have the achievement Hameçonneur de Draenor in order to fish up the Vairon givre-profonds/Carpe de Chutelune that summon the Cavedwellers. The achievement is NOT required to loot the mount, however.

The loot method should be set to Personal loot, of course.

Commentaire de 9361984

Both Tortue de monte and Tortue de mer when looted from Vairon givre-profond in a group can be traded within that group within a 2 hour window despite being personal loot, feel free to bring a friend along in case a mount you have already learned drops again.

Commentaire de evildisco

FYI - they must have nerfed it since Legion dropped. I was just in a raid group and only one person was able to loot the body even when it was set to personal. Just don't waste your time if you are trying to get coins as I was getting coins wayyyy faster by myself.

Commentaire de thecourtastrophe

I havn't been able to catch any Frostdeep minnows and Ive been fishing for several hours. Is there something that I might be doing wrong? I understand the droprate is really low but I didnt think it would take this long. Is it because of Legion?

Commentaire de NitrousPanda

I just farmed one of these up for the Canne à pêche éphémère and Chapeau à tentacules bonuses before heading out for my fishing sesh. I had a 920 fishing skill rating while farming for the minnow and caught:

48 x Croissant-sabre énorme
3 x Esturgeon jaune aveugle énorme
2 each of Enorme grangousier des abysses, Furtif agnathe énorme, and Scorpion de mer énorme
1 each of Dormeur tacheté énorme and Croissant-sabre

... Which means I got 1 minnow over 54 casts, or a little under a 2% drop rating. I don't recall it taking that long when I farmed for these back in WoD. Anyway, up to you to decide whether that's worth it for the bonuses. Keep in mind you probably won't get both the hat and pole in the same minnow, either. I only got the hat before I said screw it and went back to the Broken Isles.

EDIT: I ended revisiting my garrison later in the day in order to farm mats for Élixir de marche sur l'eau draenique, and when I attached the Appât à esturgeons jaunes aveugles I caught two more minnows in only about ten casts! So if you're having trouble, talk to Nat and try throwing a piece of bait on your pole. Hope this helps!

Commentaire de jodle

I have had bad luck with fishing those minnows the last few days. So this morning I decided to do some statistics. Aprox 1½ hours of fishing, no breaks, 5 minnows at a time.

1st attempt:

Standard fishing rod, fishing skill @800.
110 swings. 26 minutes.
Drop rate: 4.5%

2nd attempt:

Underlight angler, Nat's Hat, Nat Pagle's extreme Anglin' Boots + a few other whistles and bells, fishing skill @1025.
138 swings, 32 minutes.
Drop rate: 3.6%

3rd attempt:

Standard fishing rod, fishing skill @800.
175 swings, 42 minutes
Drop rate: 2.8%

Well. The drop rate dropped from 4.5% to 2.8% and it seems like the garrison dried up. But I guess it's pure RNG. The equipped Underlight Angler didnt help (as I expected). 4.2-4.3 fishes per minute. I will try to keep this updated until the turtle mount drops.

March 23th - another 5 minnows.
4th attempt:

326 swings, 79 minutes. *sigh* :(
Drop rate: 1.6%

Good luck.

Commentaire de Emalethx2

After the mounts, and not timing, but have the fishing addon installed - 464 casts, several missed pickups, 21 minnows, lots of hats, lots of rods from the cave dweller. So my drop rate on the minnow is sitting at 4.5%, no mounts yet, and one section of app. 40 casts with no minnow dropped. Ported to the boat yard, hearthed back to the garrison, 2 minnows in 5 casts.

Am throwing them in as I catch them so as to not miss too many from having a full stack. It feels like the game is trying to give me a 5% drop rate on the minnow, but if you move you seem to break the flow. .

Am sitting on the stool behind the fishing stack - hope you have better luck than me.

So 5 days in, and yes the novelty has worn off - still sticking with the stool behind the shack. It still feels like the game is pushing for a 5% drop rate on the minnow. The one thing I have found is the npc is dropping nat's coins. The rate is difficult to process, however I've gotten app. 30 since starting. Much easier than lunker farming. Stats so far with no mounts:

860 casts
Minnow: 35

Baits drop almost as soon as you use them, so you always have a full set. Cresents are standard unless you use a bait, and then that's what you'll get till the bait wears out. Happy Farming. Almost forgot, have fishing running between 1181 and 1191

Commentaire de Gozzan

Got the Riding turtle mount today after 189 trys out of 200 as the % is to get it .

Also in the loot of that kill i recived:

1 x Enourmous fat sleeper
1 x Enourmous Crescent Saberfish
1 x Tortue de monte > riding turtle
1 x Worm supreme
1 x Tentacle hat
1 x Very unlucky coin
26 x Fire ammonite Tentacle

Date: 18-04-18 ! so its still rollin!

Commentaire de mezmir

Can anyone confirm if these still drop? I cant fish up anything but small fish now in draenor even with maxed out fishing.. I think its bugged.

Commentaire de Fangz11

Can confirm that frostdeep minnow loot is personal as of 23 December, 2018 and multiple players can loot the same cavedweller, therefore incentivizing fishing in raid groups once more like it was in the legion prepatch.
For comparison, I fished up 250 minnows without seeing a single turtle but got Tortue de monte 20 minutes into joining a raid fishing group. Good luck out there guys!

Commentaire de Rasztra

Captured 15 Vairon givre-profond on approximately 350-400 casts. The 15th kill dropped the Tortue de monte, which is fortunate based on the estimated 1/200 drop rate.

Other loot collected in the 15 kills:

10 Canne à pêche éphémère
5 Chapeau à tentacules
Assorted fish, bait, and gray junk

If you are interested in trends, or are just superstitious, here is some other information:

I did not clear my bags of anything at any time
I used the Vairon givre-profond after catching 5 of them, not after each catch
I was fishing directly behind the fishing shack
I didn't use any bait

Commentaire de Yukimaruz

I recommend getting a Bladebone Hook from the Fishing Vendor at the Fishing Shack, in your Garrison (as Horde, Rak'jin sells it). It will help you to save bag space by insta-filleting any fish you fish!

Commentaire de Rohendar

4200 fish, 218 minnows, still no turtle...

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Vairon givre-profond

Niveau d'objet 35
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Unique (5)

Utilise: Lancez ce poisson dans l’étang de pêche du fief pour attirer un troglodyte. (30 S Recharge)

Empilement maxi: 5

Prix de Vente: 82 48

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Cet objet peut être pêché dans Mur-de-Givre (58).

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