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Commentaire de Kyon92Z

On peut capturer la même bête 2 fois.
Je n'ai testé que sur les talbuks d'Ombrelune mais si on place un piège, qu'on attend un peu avant de capturer une bête et qu'on replace un piège sur elle avant qu'elle dépop, on la recapture.

Je ne suis pas sûr que ça accélère le farm par contre...

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You can catch the same beast twice.
Only tested it on Shdowmoon Valley talbuks but if you put down a trap, wait a bit before catching a mob and then put another trap right on its face before it despawn, you catch it again.

Not sure if it really speeds up anything tho...

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Commentaire de niaxous

You need to wound the animal and kit it towards your trap

Commentaire de 696191

On my DK, I've been having steady success with the following:

(1) Before combat, lay the trap down.
(2) Deathgrip my intended target to me.
(3) Auto-attack until about the 10-20% range.

Commentaire de Arienne

Yep. As of 11/14/2014 you can't trap anything but wolves. Even after you've completed the "Getting into the trap game" quest...

Commentaire de Mormolyce

Well the iron trap doesn't seem to work on clefthooves but it works fine on me.

I feel like a Looney Tunes character.

Commentaire de 656371

Have had success trapping the Talbuks in Shadowmoon, west of Embaari Village. Specifically the Biche pelargent are easy, they run up to you and stand there. The Destrier pelargent are a pain because they are constantly charging, hence the name.

Commentaire de shaggyyfluffy

To successfully use this item the following criteria must be met:
1. Appropriate mob (Clefthook/Elekk for leather and Talbuk/Wolf for fur)
2. Must be non-quest/boss/baby
3. Must be below 40% HP
4. Must walk through the trap

Tips
1. Remove any damaging passives/shields
2. Knock back if possible and then align agro path through trap

Commentaire de Stompa

The trick is, the creature must be wounded to below 50%, and then must walk through the trap.

I captured 2 Ashmane Bulls (type of large Clefthoof) in Frostwind Crag (far northwest corner of Frostfire Ridge zone) using this. You can drop the trap during combat but for me it didn't work to just drop it under him, I had to drop it and then kite him to walk into the trap.

You will know you have succeeded when an NPC (Farmer Lok'lub, for me) appears and makes a comment about how well you've done. You will also create a Bête à cuir en cage or a Bête velue en cage depending what you trap.

EDIT: This trap works on a "wounded adult beast" - the Gentle Clefthoof near your garrison do not count. Look for beasts that are naturally hostile to you and you will have more success.

UPDATE: The trap's range has been expanded since this was first posted at release; it is much easier to trap now than it was. It is still helpful to move the creature through the trap if it doesn't trigger immediately.

UPDATE 2: Use this as a group to speed up the process; any one group member can drop the trap, but all group members will receive the trapped item.

Commentaire de Chuupag

The clefthoofs immediately behind the horde garrison I believe are tagged as quest mobs for the engineering quest, therefore they cannot be trapped. Oddly the clefthoofs for the leatherworking quest do work.

Commentaire de Alfa

You must damage the beasts to under 50% health.

My tip to trap these easily is to face the animal and drop the trap. Pew pew the beast while its on the trap, when it's below 50% - but not too fast to kill it- it should trap it. If not, run a circle around it.

Commentaire de datgrl

With the Hunter spell Freezing Trap, you can put it down, place the Iron Trap on top of it and then shoot the Silver Pelt Charger. If you've wounded it enough by the time it gets to your trap, it can be caged. This isn't 100% guaranteed. Sometimes the Iron trap despawns because the mob still has too much health. Sometimes Freezing Trap despawns or doesn't work. It seems that timing is everything. Or it might just be me. I'm still trying to figure it all out.

P.S. I remove my Legendary Cloak because I've had the proc ability spam and kill the mob before the Iron trap would go off. And it has the unfortunate side effect of breaking the Freezing Trap. So, keep that in mind if you have any spell effects that you can't control.

Commentaire de Arcedal

A good place (for alliance) to farm leather is Eleks southeast of Elodar in Shadonmoon Valley. Usually, they form group of 4 - you can trap big ones. If you can't trap - circle around a trap and you will catch your leather.
Just remember to take off any damaging passives (such as lightning shield/legend cape).

Commentaire de Stompa

To farm the Bête à cuir en cage, the easiest I have found so far are the Sabot-fourchu laineux located in the Bladespire ravine, just southwest of Bladespire Fortress in the Frostfire Ridge zone. They are plentiful and for Horde they are relatively close to your garrison.

Commentaire de JasperKazai

You keep the trap even if you replace the barn building. Additionally, you can still trap animals with it even if you don't have the barn. But it has no use without the building.

Commentaire de Osq666

Easily the most annoying mechanic in WoD. Just let me farm stuff please, why make it this complicated. How about a trap that is a debuff on a creature that triggers when it drops below x% health? This is waaay too fiddly and iffy. I'd love the blood for my crafting but unless the gathering mechanic changes, I will not have a barn in my garrison.

Commentaire de darkangael

As a hunter I had difficulty with my character shooting the Clefthoof dead before they got to the trap. This macro makes sure nothing hits it once it's at the desired health

/stopattack
/petpassive
/petfollow

Pretty basic, but might help those who aren't that into macros.

Commentaire de Blumele

as a druid i found it best to damage the beast to about 50% life using only wrath, then rooting it. then position the trap and use one last wrath to free the beast of the roots and have it walk right at you and through the trap.

this way you avoid killing it with your dots. also you don't have to kite like a maniac trying not to step into your own trap ;-)

Commentaire de 680874

Found that it doesn't matter if you lead the beast into the trap or just drop the trap on top of it.
What seems to matter is that the trap must 'arm' itself before it will work (and before the beast dies). This takes about a second. I might be wrong, of course, but I tend to get more success working by this rule.

This is, by far, is one of the most finicky and therefore annoying things I've found in Draenor, especially since ore and herbs grow for free in the garrison. Oh well. Happy hunting!

Commentaire de BarqueCat

Is this a unique item? Meaning I can only trap one beast then must return to the garrison to "use" it before I can trap another? Trapping with this is finicky enough that I honestly cannot tell. I did find better luck kiting through the trap, but percentage is still really low of trapping it before it dies.

Commentaire de reddraggone9

If you are having trouble getting the creature in the trap (and not yourself), I would recommend trying to jump over the trap after it has had time to set itself.

Commentaire de alpanhell

Here's how I do it and I have no issues (this is for Wooly Clefthoof under bladespire citadel).

1) First get the clefthoof to under 50% hp, no dots!
2) Stop targeting it (you should have any kind of passive options off that can hurt it including wolf helper)
3) Wait for it to do its only attack you should worry about (Crushing Swipe) get out of the way and drop the trap between you and clefthoof.
4) Stand on other side of trap (trap can catch you too so be careful)
4) Wait for trap to click (means it's set).
5) Hopefully clefthoof will be standing right on it after it's set and should be caught. Let it beat on you if you have to.

6) wait till CD for trap is down to about 50% and just repeat.

Commentaire de Pinkphoenix

Replace Your Iron Trap

We all know how packed our bags can get on an intense adventure. If you ever happen to throw out your Piège de Fer, usually to make room for some rich goodies, know that you can simply return to your Garrison's Barn to replace the item. It will be an object on the ground, in the barn, that you can click.

It is interesting to note that, at the time being, you can carry around multiple traps. I have not yet attempted to see if the could be used at the same time though!

Thanks for reading, and the best of luck on your adventures!

Commentaire de Pinkphoenix

Two Traps!

Whoa! Did you know that the Piège de Fer can be placed down twice?

Here is how it works:
-The item itself has a cooldown of 15 seconds.
-However, the item does not despawn until it has been down for a total of 30 seconds.
- This means that you can place down a trap, wait 15 seconds and place another trap!

This could be extremely useful when taking on large groups of wolves, Talbuks, or any form of trappable animals!

Commentaire de Ylangmorgan

Is it a bug that the catched beasts don't stack in inventory? All other Crafting Reagents stack up to 200.

Commentaire de DG2020

Blizzard really needs to fix the hit detection on these things. I've had multiple instances where the beast would walk right over the trap and it wouldn't activate.

Commentaire de darkangael

Another tip to add to add here is that for clefthooves the trap seems to trigger on the hind leg (usually the left one for me). So leading the mob all the way through the trap tends to work best for consistent results.

Commentaire de oaninor

"For mining and herbalism I can stack and farm just ones. That way leather working is disadvantaged. I don't get the difference yet, but seems bigger bags is the only solution right now."

even as a Tailor I love this coment (more bags sales for me), as a fellow wowheader, I must tell to you that you can put the caged beasts on the reagent bank.

my hunter its engineer so, I fill my bags, drop Jeeves, discharge all the caged beast on the reagent bank. rinse and repeat until you fill the reagent bank. I have no less than 70 empty holes on the bags when I go to trap so, Its takes me an hour (Jeeves CD) fill my bags. even you can get full the reagent bank and get another 7 or 14 to put the orders pending. :)

Commentaire de 629182

So no reason for a skinner to do this? I tried the trap and it seems like an awful mechanic. I don't see anything fun about its usage. Easier to just go kill for gold and buy the reagents.

Commentaire de decembre

Some nifty tricks with traps:

Currently you can lay down two traps (lay the second after the cd) and gain two Bête à cuir en cage or Bête velue en cage for every beast you catch.

If you lay a trap on top of someone else's trap, you will each gain a caged beast for every beast. You do not even need to tag the mob and they do not need to be in your party. There does not seem to be a limit on how many can be stacked.

Commentaire de Draewind

Type /macro into the chat window and your Macro Frame will open. There are two tabs at the top, General Macros and <CharacterName> Specific Macros. Click on the Character Specific tab and then find and click the New Button (bottom about center). A side window will open with a lot of icons, and the Red Question Mark icon selected. Leave the Red Question Mark icon as the icon selection and type in any name even a blank space will do in the top text area of the side window. So that I know it is a macro, I always give it some name even an X at times. I named this one TRAP.

Now click the Okay button and that side frame will close. Click on the large black text area to position your cursor into the text field, it should automatically be in the top left corner. Now copy and past the commands below into the window ... just as they are typed:

#showtooltip Iron Trap
/stopattack
/petpassive
/petfollow
/use Iron Trap

The first command makes the Red Question Mark icon turn into the Piège de Fer icon.
Next is the command that stops your Attaque auto.
Next will put your pet on passive followed by the command to put your pet on follow.

All attacking has been stopped and the last act is to drop the Piège de Fer.

Press the save button and the macro with the name you gave it and the Piège de Fer icon will be there in your macro frame. Now you just drag it to an action bar (as you would any spell) and go test it out. And now you have made your first macro and have a bit of an understanding, you can go to:

WoWWiki Macro Slash Commands

And learn about macros a little more ;-)

Those of you with more macro savvy, can find the right icon or choose one you like:

/stopattack
/petpassive
/petfollow
/use Iron Trap
/use Improved Iron Trap
/use Deadly Iron Trap

That will work for all your characters regardless of their trap level.

Commentaire de Benezia

The hit detection on these things is abysmal.
Out of the 100 or so clefthoofs and elekks I've tried trapping so far after getting them down to minimum health, the trap has only trapped about 30% of them.

Commentaire de Dumdeedum

When playing Alliance there's a spot just south of Embaari Village with Destrier touché par le Vide and Traqueur touché par le Vide which are pre-weakened so you just have to walk up and drop your trap. The talbuk charge a bit and there's not a huge number in the area, but enough for a day or two of work orders and the only combat required is killing a few easy floating eye mobs.

Commentaire de 1417000

Some general information on how traps work, found out by trying, failing, trying some more and observing.

Requires a mob to be below 50% health to capture.

Traps have a small casting-time after you put them down. It takes about 1-1.5 second and you can hear the *click* from activation. There is a distinct difference between the placing-stage and the activation-stage in how mobs are seen and how the trap responds to it.

Placing a trap in melee range when the animal is already in its range:
- If you put down a trap which activates before a beast is below 50% it will not immediately work and you have to kite it out of the trap's range and back over it again.
- Having it activate whenever a beast is below 50% (even if you put it down whilst it is over) will immediately capture the animal. Tested this with a druid by opening up with either a high crit and dropping down the trap immediately or opening with stuns, without moving the animal.

Commentaire de Cakechart

Once the animal is trapped, it will gain a spell effect called Snap Shut.
You can use this to track successful trappings and move on immediately.

A trapped animal will also cease attacking and moving, but that might be harder to see when you're fighting multiple enemies.

Commentaire de Draewind

Today, only one trap will trap an animal. Additional traps do not work. The animal can only be trapped by a person that has "tagged" the animal or a group member. All members of the tagging person's 5 man (group of raid) party will receive the trapped animal.
No more sharing, but now you see groups running through clearing areas, and Blizzard has increased the spawn times for the elite animals that were the target of the "Trapping Wars".

The Piège de Fer, Piège de Fer amélioré and Piège de Fer mortel work on animals at 50% or less health.

This post was made prior to the trap changes in later patches, but lends insight into why traps act as they do now.

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~~SHARING TRAPPED ANIMALS~~ (Obsolete)
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My main purpose here is to discuss the SHARING OF ANIMALS. When you are trapping, at times it seems they die before you have the trap down. Later on when you are doing elites with the Piège de Fer mortel, this will not be the case.

An animal at 50% health, or below, is able to be trapped by as many traps as there are below it. Once trapped, the other traps have to be in the same position as the original trap that trapped the beast.

In the elite spawn areas of Nagrand there is a lot of competition for the animals used in the Piège de Fer mortel. When one person kills an animal down to the right health and you run in and drop your trap before the person doing the work has trapped it ... YOU ARE AN @$$.

There are ways to share. If you want to share, then target the animal and simply wait until the person doing the work traps the animal (you will see the trap buff come up on the target animal). Then place your trap on top of theirs ... you will see two trap buffs and receive the trapped animal as well. Sometimes the person doing the work isn't very good at the task and their trap sits for awhile before they finally get the animal into it. The trap will despawn in 30 seconds from being dropped (cooldown is 15 sec. which means you can get 2 from one animal). If they manage to trap the animal at 29 seconds, you will not have a chance to share, because their trap and the animal will despawn at 30 seconds. This still does not give you the right to steal the animal by trapping it before the person that has tagged it and is doing the work of bring its health down.

I was sharing, and a fellow of the other faction came unglued. He didn't understand the mechanics and thought I had stolen from him. He followed me around stealing all my animals for awhile until he felt better, then he made a character on my faction, just to yell at me. I didn't fight him when he was stealing and I tried to calmly explain to him the mechanics when he was screaming at me in tells.

This can be a great issue of contention that Blizzard will have to face. Many people do not like sharing, and even more are thieves.

Commentaire de Blitzfury

Have a macro to clear target as you get close to trap, I use it on my hunter, also no trinkets that spawn additional pets. Works like a charm

Commentaire de Stompa

BONUS Farming Tip: If you group with a friend to farm these, you can both drop a trap and both receive a trapped animal.

Note that the exploit of dropping multiple traps or trapping someone else's creature was hotfixed January 2015.

Commentaire de Draewind

To trap an animal, you must bring their health down to 50% or less. If you are high dps, have a pet, bodyguard, or trinket proc ... they will usually die before getting trapped. When you place the Piège de Fer , it will sit for a second as it opens. It will not trap an animal during this period. Once it is opened, the damaged animal must walk over it.

I use the macro below to keep from killing them before they are trapped. Bring them to 50% then use the Piège de Fer macro (below).

You trap animals (listed on the trap) to get one of the Caged Beast listed below. You then turn them in to the ~~<Barn Supervisor>~~<Work Orders> either Homer Champierreux or Fermier Lok'lub. Depending on the type of Caged Beast you bring him, he will offer to start a workorder for:

Clefthoof or Elekk = Bête à cuir en cage workorder produces 8 x Peau de bête brute

Talbuk or Wolf = Bête velue en cage workorder produces 8 x Fourrure somptueuse

Riverbeat or Boar = Bête charnue en cage workorder produces 1 x Festin sauvage

(Bête à cuir en cage Bête velue en cage Bête charnue en cage - MAY BE IN YOUR BANK to start the work order with them. They fit in the Reagents tab.)

With a LEVEL 100 follower working in your Barn (with the Dépeçage trait), instead of 8 you will produce 12, or instead of 1 occasionally you will get 2. Followers of lower level do not produce as much additional (stated in the tool tip Dépeçage).

Those of you that chose a Brewery for your Spires of Arak garrison, will have acquired Hulda Shadowblade at the end of your questline for the zone. Those that did not acquire Hulda Shadowblade, will probably need to find Crin-d’Or l’Ecorcheur. When you free him you get Amitié féline which rewards Sujet : Crin-d’Or l’Ecorcheur.
(Goldmane the Skinner)

Piège de Fer allows the capture of Bête à cuir en cage and Bête velue en cage.
Piège de Fer amélioré allows the capture of Bête à cuir en cage,Bête velue en cage, and Bête charnue en cage.
Piège de Fer mortel allows the capture of Bête à cuir en cage,Bête velue en cage, Bête charnue en cage,
adding the MIGHTY:
Sabot-fourchu puissant en cage, Loup puissant en cage, and Potamodonte puissant en cage.

Bête à cuir en cage,Bête velue en cage, and Bête charnue en cage will always give the yield shown above, regardless the level of the animal you trap. A level 90 Clefthoof will give the same production from a work order as a level 100 Clefthoof.

Sabot-fourchu puissant en cage, Loup puissant en cage, and Potamodonte puissant en cage will give 15/22 instead of 8/12 (without follower/with follower) and have the possibility of Sang sauvage.

Piège de Fer mortel on Taureau cuiracier gives Sabot-fourchu puissant en cage
Piège de Fer mortel on Alpha morne-croc gives Loup puissant en cage
Piège de Fer mortel on Piétineur des gâtines gives Potamodonte puissant en cage

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TRAP MACRO
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Instead of Piège de Fer mine is now Piège de Fer amélioré or Piège de Fer mortel. (Everywhere in the macro where it says, "Iron Trap", I have added "Improved" so that now it says, "Improved Iron Trap" -- or "Deadly" and "Deadly Iron Trap".)

Type /macro into the chat window and your Macro Frame will open. There are two tabs at the top, General Macros and <CharacterName> Specific Macros. Click on the Character Specific tab and then find and click the New Button (bottom about center). A side window will open with a lot of icons, and the Red Question Mark icon selected. Leave the Red Question Mark icon as the icon selection and type in any name even a blank space will do in the top text area of the side window. So that I know it is a macro, I always give it some name even an X at times. I named this one TRAP.

Now click the Okay button and that side frame will close. Click on the large black text area to position your cursor into the text field, it should automatically be in the top left corner. Now copy and past the commands below into the window ... just as they are typed:

#showtooltip Iron Trap
/stopattack
/petpassive
/petfollow
/use Iron Trap

The first command makes the Red Question Mark icon turn into the Piège de Fer icon.
Next is the command that stops your Attaque auto.
Next will put your pet on passive followed by the command to put your pet on follow.

All attacking has been stopped and the last act is to drop the Piège de Fer.

Press the save button and the macro with the name you gave it and the Piège de Fer icon will be there in your macro frame. Now you just drag it to an action bar (as you would any spell) and go test it out. And now you have made your first macro and have a bit of an understanding, you can go to:

WoWWiki Macro Slash Commands

And learn about macros a little more ;-)

Commentaire de Zarbryn

Why does it have to be a giant bear trap, with extra blood animation? I know we are killing animals for leather and food, but it doesn't need to be so cruel.

I actually feel guilty. There was a difference in my feral druid sneaking up behind something and quickly killing it and a scared animal in a bear trap.

Commentaire de Pinkphoenix

Quick Warning

Hopefully painfully obvious tidbit of information:

You will most likely need to, if you still have the Barracks in your Garrison, ensure that your Bodyguard is not with you when you go out to do some serious beast trapping. While the bodyguards may not necessarily kill the beast in question, most of the characters will taunt the dang creatures away from the Iron Trap!

As a priest, I tend to run around a lot with my bodyguard. There is nothing more annoying than attempting to trap a delightfully unfortunately animal when my overtly excited bodyguard comes smashing their way in and grabbing the poor creatures attention away from my diabolically placed trap!

Your Friendly Neighborhood Sparkling-Priest,
Jomcclu

Commentaire de Taraezor

Alliance

South to South-West of Exile's Rise you will find suitable Elekk. Flight path to there so easy as.

Commentaire de Pypode

Trap the animal. Watch it die. Receive Leathery Caged Beast. Shooting kills faster.

Commentaire de fokusrite

Is there a way to do this in Battle For Azeroth latest patch of the expansion? I take off every item and try to fist one but it does 2x-3x the mob total health as damage... so at the moment it seems it's not possible. Can Blizzard please put the trap to do its job no matter what the mob's health is? Thanks.

Commentaire de Boblike

Currently with the prepatch, the soft foam sword toy does not work.
I know it is not the cleanest solution... But instead, you can kill yourself by taking fall dmg, then get naked and go punch those poor beasts into submission! ;)

Commentaire de dimestorecandy

For leather in Shadowmoon Valley:
At around 59 , 36 you will see Rockhide Grazers and Rockhide Bulls all around.
Attack and trap them when they loose half their health.
The Rockhide Calf is not trappable. Happy hunting.

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Utilise: Pose un piège de Fer pouvant servir à capturer une bête adulte blessée. Dure 1 min.

Matériaux obtenus :
Sabot-fourchu, elekk : cuir
Talbuk, loup : fourrure

Ne fonctionne pas sur les bêtes très puissantes. (5 S Recharge)
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