the alliance recovered the abyssal scepter, what was the point of the horde war campaign ? \rthat they were just lucky to find derek after his body was turned into ash and was rotting in the seas for decades?
We're not getting Junk Gnomes, we're getting HULK GNOMES!
Confirmation that Anduin wants to avoid civilian casualties:\rSecure the harbor and prepare to move forward, spymaster.\rRemember, our objective is to destabilize the Zandalari and take out Horde targets. King Wrynn wants to avoid civilian casualties.\r\r.... Again the bulwark of goody.... Why didnt i helped the Burning Legion....
Is the ritual for mekkatorque?
So Alliance's war campaign lead to a raid and ours was pretty much for nothing, I see :P Yeah, we got the corpses but that will just lead to a stupid\/cowardly trick from the forsaken again ... Hope we get the sceptre back at the end of the raid!
Confirmation that Anduin wants to avoid civilian casualties:\rSecure the harbor and prepare to move forward, spymaster.\rRemember, our objective is to destabilize the Zandalari and take out Horde targets. King Wrynn wants to avoid civilian casualties.\r\r.... Again the bulwark of goody.... Why didnt i helped the Burning Legion....\r\rBecause Anduin is a caring individual, even when he is directing war. I believe you'd prefer a leader like him rather than one who'd not give a damn about civilian casualties if you got caught in the middle of a war.
why fight old gods when you can have G N O M E R I T U A L
Derek is gonna have a bad time.
So Alliance's war campaign lead to a raid and ours was pretty much for nothing, I see :P Yeah, we got the corpses but that will just lead to a stupid\/cowardly trick from the forsaken again ... Hope we get the sceptre back at the end of the raid!\r\rWe've already burned down Teldrassil, singed Stormwind, bombed the $%^& out of Lordaeron in a planned trap etc. Having our intial plans foiled, Rastakhan killed, and the Zandalari fleet crippled plus the suggested further losses in the war keeps it interesting.\r\rWe are probably going to get our very own Jaina-equivalent out of Talan'ji from this, useful to have an uncompromising revenge-seeker in the quiver.
the alliance recovered the abyssal scepter, what was the point of the horde war campaign ? \rthat they were just lucky to find derek after his body was turned into ash and was rotting in the seas for decades?\r\rNot to be mean, but if you thought the hordes plan was going to work, then you are sorely mistaken. The horde was better off stockpiling azerite for the assualt than using one artifact and a guy who was burnt to ash 20 years before
We've already burned down Teldrassil, singed Stormwind, bombed the $%^& out of Lordaeron in a planned trap etc. Having our initial plans foiled, Rastakhan killed, and the Zandalari fleet crippled plus the suggested further losses in the war keep it interesting.\r\rYes, but during BFA, Alliance loose Corsandre helps but kept almost all its fleet, Jaina became somewhat more powerful. In the Horde quests and siege, half the fleet seems to be destroyed, we have lost the most powerful loa, so Talanji is supposed to be much weaker and a great part of the council is dead. \r\rSo when will the Horde will have something that makes it at least as powerful as the Alliance? I don't want one part to be more powerful than the other, just a somewhat illusion of balance that can justify the war. Because as far with Jaina who seems to be overpowered for a long time already and de Vindicaar, I still don't get why the Alliance just don't destroy the Horde right away ahah\r\rAnyway, we get to play Zandalari so everything else is not really important
mecha gnomes mite b coolalso looks like you can play as a hero in warfronts now like in battlefront. maybe sylvanas\/anduin or other commands not in rotation
A troll paladin? Now I've seen it all. Protest all you want, but you appear to be outnumbered.\r\rNice, this seems to confirm that the Zandalari will be able to create Paladins.
So Alliance's war campaign lead to a raid and ours was pretty much for nothing, I see :P Yeah, we got the corpses but that will just lead to a stupid\/cowardly trick from the forsaken again ... Hope we get the sceptre back at the end of the raid!\r\rWe've already burned down Teldrassil, singed Stormwind, bombed the $%^& out of Lordaeron in a planned trap etc. Having our intial plans foiled, Rastakhan killed, and the Zandalari fleet crippled plus the suggested further losses in the war keeps it interesting.\r\rWe are probably going to get our very own Jaina-equivalent out of Talan'ji from this, useful to have an uncompromising revenge-seeker in the quiver.\r\rThis isn't what bothers me, what bothers me is how 8.1 is more or less "Everything goes wrong for the horde" yet some alliance players still cry "horde favoritism".\r\rBut Arkeran raises a valid point, our entire war campaign in 8.0 was for nothing, and while we're at it, everything else we did in 8.0 as well. We traveled to zandalar to secure a new fleet. Whelp that's gone. We went there to secure the aid of the mightiest and oldest empire in the world. Whelp, they're crippled and now probably need us more than we need them. We went through great pains to secure that scepter. Whelp that's gone too.\r\rTo say nothing of how the story in 8.1 for us is pretty much a shot-for-shot remake of 5.1, just replacing Vol'jin with Saurfang, and Garrosh with Sylvanas. I wonder what will the equivalent of the divine bell will be this time.\r\rI can take those lumps just fine, but it makes my blood boil that after all this, there's STILL some players out there complaining that THIS is how blizzard "favors" the horde.
So Alliance's war campaign lead to a raid and ours was pretty much for nothing, I see :P Yeah, we got the corpses but that will just lead to a stupid\/cowardly trick from the forsaken again ... Hope we get the sceptre back at the end of the raid!\r\rWe've already burned down Teldrassil, singed Stormwind, bombed the $%^& out of Lordaeron in a planned trap etc. Having our intial plans foiled, Rastakhan killed, and the Zandalari fleet crippled plus the suggested further losses in the war keeps it interesting.\r\rWe are probably going to get our very own Jaina-equivalent out of Talan'ji from this, useful to have an uncompromising revenge-seeker in the quiver.\r\rThis isn't what bothers me, what bothers me is how 8.1 is more or less "Everything goes wrong for the horde" yet some alliance players still cry "horde favoritism".\r\rBut Arkeran raises a valid point, our entire war campaign in 8.0 was for nothing, and while we're at it, everything else we did in 8.0 as well. We traveled to zandalar to secure a new fleet. Whelp that's gone. We went there to secure the aid of the mightiest and oldest empire in the world. Whelp, they're crippled and now probably need us more than we need them. We went through great pains to secure that scepter. Whelp that's gone too.\r\rTo say nothing of how the story in 8.1 for us is pretty much a shot-for-shot remake of 5.1, just replacing Vol'jin with Saurfang, and Garrosh with Sylvanas. I wonder what will the equivalent of the divine bell will be this time.\r\rI can take those lumps just fine, but it makes my blood boil that after all this, there's STILL some players out there complaining that THIS is how blizzard "favors" the horde.\r\rWhen you got CM giving a funny face when someone claims Alliance Favouritism, I think you are on the wrong side. Who did you lose? A king who has had 5 minutes of screen time? We lose Mekkatorque and Jaina is badly wounded. Zandalari aren't even apart of the horde yet and you got an already established backup leader for Rastakhan.
We're not getting Junk Gnomes, we're getting HULK GNOMES!\r\rActually I think it's in reference to the Gorilla boss that the Horde (and later the alliance) has to deal with later in the Zuldazar raid. I guess it's the gnomes who initially supersize it and let it loose on the horde.
We lose Mekkatorque No we don't.
\rWhen you got CM giving a funny face when someone claims Alliance Favouritism, I think you are on the wrong side. Who did you lose? A king who has had 5 minutes of screen time? We lose Mekkatorque and Jaina is badly wounded. Zandalari aren't even apart of the horde yet and you got an already established backup leader for Rastakhan.\r\rBro, i am alliance but i don't know how you can claim that this is somehow horde favoritism.\rWe literally invaded a horde city, killed a troll king, outsmarted the horde, and countering every move being just weeks to win the war.\rjaina didn't recieved any kind of permanent damage, she didn't lose her power (that we know of) mekkatorke is frozen so both can come back in the future, probably jaina will be out for 8.2 and the fact that she escaped doing something heroic and in her terms, i don't know how the HELL you can say that this isn't alliance favoritism.\rthe alliance countered every horde move so much that they can only rely in a gigantic rectcon\/deus ex as derek proudmoore where contradicted their own lore that he was turned into ash and rotting for decades.\r\rthis is a huge punch to the horde in every way.
When you got CM giving a funny face when someone claims Alliance Favouritism, I think you are on the wrong side. Who did you lose? A king who has had 5 minutes of screen time? We lose Mekkatorque and Jaina is badly wounded. Zandalari aren't even apart of the horde yet and you got an already established backup leader for Rastakhan.You just eluded all the points he raised ...The Horde war campaign was :- Get the Zandalari - Half of them traitors with Zul, City looted, first leader dead, main Loa dead- Get the fleet - Half destroyed- Get the sceptre - Retrieved by the AllianceAnd by the way, Mekkatorque isn't dead don't worry.The story is much more going the Alliance way for now. Hopefully, it will change to balance things out.
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