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WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up: Profession Updates & Accessibility, Gold Cap Challenge plus Parking Alts!

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Commentaire de rodmaan How many alts do you have? What do you use them if they're not general end-game characters? Have you got a 'storage' alt?\r
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i got 6 120 characters, 4 110+ characters on alliance side, and 6 100+ characters on horde side. Yeah as you could have guessed it, these are from wod\/legion mission table farming. \r
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Currently I am only using the alliance toons. Beside my main hunter, 1 alt is for farming herbs\/ores and emissaries, 1 alt for emissaries and enchanting mats, 1 alt after that just maxing out a profession i still need. \r
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1 character is used for sometimes looking for the frightened kodo, so its just log in, fly a round, log off. Im not focused on that, but if i have some spare minutes, i'd do that.\r
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1 character is used for just standing at the farm in halfhill market and being part of my skygolem production line. I trained alchemy\/engineering on that toon with enough anvils to last some years. (this character was located in deepholm before for 4 months, until i finally got my mount from there, just by logging in, doing skygolem stuff, and pressing a button to check for the mount)\r
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1 120 character just doesn't do anything. But I can't be bothered. He was just there to max out blacksmithing, and that was it. \r
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Fortunately my main and one of the 120 toons has the instance portal for stormstout brewery from pandaria challenge modes, so it's cool to have easy fast access to my skygolem production farm in halfhill market, while also being free to set my hearthstone anywhere else. \r
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I use two storage alts, one for things i won't touch that often, like pet battle stones and reputation marks, and the other is a simple auction house toon with a guildbank. \r
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This may seem like a lot to some people, but since wod started, there was much time to level alts, and I heavily (ab)used the pre-legion invasions to level alts on my server. Now came a time, where I am not that extremely invested in the game, and I really like to focus on my main, with just doing stuff on alts which will guarantee me some income (sky golem production, yeah) or toys, mounts, pets (the emissaries).\r
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Im not a gold maker, and I guess will never be, but I still like to read the weekly articles here, to optimize the little i do. Commentaire de warsn So I finally got around to setting up that spreadsheet. Turns out that basically everything on Mal'ganis(US) is unprofitable to make. Yawn. Commentaire de lovs2build I would like to know when bugs in TSM4 will be addressed? Namely the sending items to alts. Everyday I go to send mats to certain alts with profs and TSM won't send, I have to manually send items. Also the MASSIVE FPS drop when taking things out of GV or breaking items up. Commentaire de USNFC2 Have found it truly difficult to make any serious gold from the old fashioned methods. Meanwhile the cost of doing basically any sort of carry is significantly more expensive than they were in Legion so my Alts now just languish. Fortunately (and sadly) there are no legendary quests for super sweet xmogs requiring excellent gear and skill for me to feel the need to gear up alts. Still it is a wonder that with so many people mentioning how hard it is to turn any real profit crafting or farming, how can the cost of carry groups continue to go up. I always figured the majority of people buying carries where people gearing farm alts like myself. Guess there are a lot of people still buying tokens. Commentaire de sinangelus Have found it truly difficult to make any serious gold from the old fashioned methods. Meanwhile the cost of doing basically any sort of carry is significantly more expensive than they were in Legion so my Alts now just languish. Fortunately (and sadly) there are no legendary quests for super sweet xmogs requiring excellent gear and skill for me to feel the need to gear up alts. Still it is a wonder that with so many people mentioning how hard it is to turn any real profit crafting or farming, how can the cost of carry groups continue to go up. I always figured the majority of people buying carries where people gearing farm alts like myself. Guess there are a lot of people still buying tokens.

Yep, most boost buyers are token buyers.

However much less than in Legion, due to token only giving half the gold it used to.

I can tell you my guild was easily raking 200-400k per boost night in Legion per boosting member, sometimes running double hc raid clear, but in BFA it dropped to sub 100k per evening, sometimes as low as 15k per booster for hc clear.

There's just no buyers.

Boosting m+ is also not so hot, the competition among sellers is fierce, on top of it buyers try to constantly lowball you ("I only have x gold can I pay less? Can I give you a pet instead of gold?"), make annoying demands (have fun boosting Tol Dagor on Sanguine week because buyer has a trinket from there, or making group with 3 cloths + buyer + tank for interrupt heavy dungeon like Motherlode \/ Shrine because armor sharing) or threaten to report you (even though boosting for gold is 100% legal).

Now that next reset dungeons get upscaled 30% I sincerely won't be bothered boosting harder dungeons for the same price. The only reason I've done it now was nothing better to do waiting for the new raid to open, and there was no other way to earn gold. Even sky golems sell for sub 50k, BS crafted weapons dropped below 2k and agi \/ spell daggers are closing to 1k each, etc. Now new raid is coming and pots, augment runes and all the other consumables are going up in price, it's seriously worse than legion because in legion at least we had table missions to pay for all the obnoxious consumable expenses.

WTB prolonged power pot with sanguicell or something, atm potting on progress feels like flushing gold down the toilet, but there's no other way around it.

Turns out that basically everything on Mal'ganis(US) is unprofitable to make. Welcome to BFA. This aspect frustrates me to no end. Every "easy method" to make gold I knew from the past is dead while expenses as as high as in legion when gold rained from the sky. I miss the times when having a profession like jewelcrafting, alchemy or enchanting and regularly posting crafts on reset day was enough to stay afloat. Sadly these days are over. Commentaire de Thoorin Alts, huh.\r
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I have 3 sets, one of 8 on a mid-pop server which later got merged into a cluster with a server where I got 2 more alts, and one of 8 on a high-pop megaserver.\r
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Both sets are fully covered for professions, and are a broad representation of classes I enjoy. Thanks to this, I am always safe that if Blizzard screws a class over, I will have an alternative to fall back to. Over the 10 years I've played, they actually did it a few times. I like to keep at least 2-4 close to current gear levels, to not have too much to catch up to when a new tier\/patch drops, and my current main is suddenly not fun to play for whatever reasons.\r
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I actually started the megaserver group when situation in pandaria deteriorated to the point of collapse, with no chance to raid (no recruits) or trade (dead AH). These days though, I find myself back to a somewhat-revitalized mid-pop cluster, so the group on the megaserver remains dormant sinc Legion - there's 6 110s, and two xp-locked toons: one is a lv.20 banker\/AH\/unsubscribed-access toon, and another is a fully-geared Heralt of the Titans toon, which I left there just for nostalgia. Later on, I found out people are actually willing to pay a fair bit of gold to have someone bring experience and a geared toon to a raid, so I've actually had some money from him.\r
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The mid-pop cluster has my core toons, including my first toon ever and current main. I have 5 120s, 2 intended 120s (over 110 already), and the customary lv.20 xp-locked toon for access to trade chat and guild chat banter when I'm unsubscribed. The server that got joined into the cluster, with 2 extra toons, has my token Alliance toon and another xp-locked lv.20, who lords over my AH activities and my storage guild. I actually did a funny thing with her... I had a storage guild on my original mid-pop realm, and when the realm with my Ally was announced for a merge, I rolled a lowbie there and got her to 20. Then post-merge, I joined my storage guild and made her GM, which allowed me to delete the toon for that role on the original mid-pop realm and free up a toon slot. Since the realms are merged, I retain access, but without the need to have a dedicated toon on the realm where I keep my most played toons.\r
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The core sets of 6-7 toons at cap were all used as "alt armies" at one point - be it WoD Garrison, be it Legion OH. On my core mid-pop realm, I am already building up the BfA followers, funneling quite a bit of expulsoms into +10% mission chance from BS, +10% per troop from LW equipment pieces. These get sent for rep missions for now, but I expect more to come - I don't think people really took in the renewed leveling range and extra unlockable slot\/trait on them that recently landed. Expulsom raid gear is completely ridiculous, not worth the effort, so this future goldmaking potential, while a gamble, may pay off. Commentaire de Magnognomus It is pretty clear actvision want's to dry up all golds from players, and direct them to buy wow token for real $$. \r
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The only thing they have forget: dead economy = dead game.\r
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When players don't have easy \/ moderate easy way to earn lots of gold they will not spend any. The reason for that is simple: they have no gold. \r
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When players have a good amount of gold the following things make the gamer busy:\r
- buying HC raid runs\r
- buying Mithyc runs (dungeon\/raid)\r
- buying old rare recipies which is hard to get\r
- buying rare xmog items\r
- not minding to buy and enchant, gem up any alt's for fun\r
- always having the best flask \/ food so they can be "top dog"\r
- farmers farms materials to sell in AH, and crafters crafts them for good gold\r
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I made a decision, still have like 2 months on my acc, will check on new raid, than unsub. Will return when new raid or interesting thing comes up, so this is not perma, but I see no reason to waste money or gold on a mostly boring grindfest with no gold income. I love wow and I want to see it shining but Activi$ion wants only $$ not happy gamers. They have super bad influence on Blizzard, draggin it down to the most hated club (EA\/Activison) level. Sad thing. Commentaire de lankybrit My alts are still doing mission table for gold and battle-scarred runes. Commentaire de SiIverfox It is pretty clear actvision want's to dry up all golds from players, and direct them to buy wow token for real $$.

The only thing they have forget: dead economy = dead game.

When players don't have easy \/ moderate easy way to earn lots of gold they will not spend any. The reason for that is simple: they have no gold.

When players have a good amount of gold the following things make the gamer busy:
- buying HC raid runs
- buying Mithyc runs (dungeon\/raid)
- buying old rare recipies which is hard to get
- buying rare xmog items
- not minding to buy and enchant, gem up any alt's for fun
- always having the best flask \/ food so they can be "top dog"
- farmers farms materials to sell in AH, and crafters crafts them for good gold

I made a decision, still have like 2 months on my acc, will check on new raid, than unsub. Will return when new raid or interesting thing comes up, so this is not perma, but I see no reason to waste money or gold on a mostly boring grindfest with no gold income. I love wow and I want to see it shining but Activi$ion wants only $$ not happy gamers. They have super bad influence on Blizzard, draggin it down to the most hated club (EA\/Activison) level. Sad thing.

"I'm unsubing" rants leaking to economy discussions.

Buying flasks\/food\/any other utility is easily achievable with next to no effort (just DE\/scrap things you get and sell it - should be enough). Buying carries isn't considered a part of standard package - you're sorta supposed to do that yourself. Neither is ultra rare stuff. You either farm it or you pay a pretty pile.

And lack of meaningful content would kill game way faster than "dead" economy (they only way it'd become dead is if they'd close any form of player trade). It's bad, but it's not dead.

PS: See you in 2 months and 3 days when you resub

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