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Commentaire de Tyromega

Traduit d'un commentaire Anglais : Ce boss peut être fait solo !
Pour cela, pas besoin de toucher la console à l'étage. Descendez au niveau en dessous, et cliquez sur les tuyaux de chaque coté de la salle (3 à gauche, 3 à droite).

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Commentaire de dipiddy

The stacking debuff gained when you successfully dodge a devastating combo hit is called "Growing Opportunity."

Opportunité croissante
Opportunité croissante

The spell doesn't appear in the combat log from what I could find; however, it is clearly displayed as a debuff on the player during the encounter.

Commentaire de 3xul

With this tactic our 10 man raid handles this encounter:

We used 2 tanks, 3 healers and 5 DDs.

This encounter is mostly about setting the right killpriorities for the adds that will spawn the whole time during the encounter. (excluding the Gaz des titans Phase)

Those Adds are listed by their killpriority:

Courage de l’empereur spawn from one side in alternating order and are fixated to the tank of the oposite. They can be slowed and should be killed before they reach the tank. If they get close to the tank, they will use Coup incapacitant and therefore make dodging the devastating combos from the boss much harder (or impossible with 4 stacks).
Due to Demi-armure, they are immune to damage incoming from the front, so you have to attack their back. But they can be slowed at any given time.
Force de l’empereur are huge mogu with two-handed maces, which spawn from the half-left or half-right side. They have a normal threat system so the can be kited or killed. With their Armure complète they are completely immune to crowd controll.
Now the reason, why they should be killed asap is their ability Choc dynamisant, which is an area of effect stun, increasing it's range with every application. That is also the only relevant ability and why they do not require a tank. (It's very easy to dodge their attack, if you get used to their mechanic.)
Rage de l’empereur spawn in pairs and are completely vulnerble to all kinds of CC. They cast Assaut focalisé at a random target (excluding tanks) and will fixate to them until killed or being affected by CC. They are very slow and have low HP. Du to their lack of abilities they are the least killpriority.
If there is no add alive, the bosses should be attacked. Dot classes like shadow priests and warlocks can try to have at all times their dots on the bosses, but they should not forget that focussing the adds is top priority.

After 90 seconds Jan Xi and Qin Xi jump down and should be tanked in a position, they cannot hit the raid with their devastaing combo. For our raid a position near the stairs was the best solution, but there are many ways to deal with positioning. The boss abilities are:

Armure magnétique which pulls the tank to them, if the distance is greater than 16 yards. (If a DD pulls aggro and gets this debuff, the same effect will happen.)
Devastaing Combo, which is a combo of 5 attacks the tank has to dodge
Arc dévastateur is a 180° swing to the front, right or left of the boss and indicated by some small blue lines. In addition you can watch at his weapon, i.e. the boss holds his weapon over the left shoulder, he will swing it to his right.
Piétinement is a 360° attack, stunning and damaging all targets within 12 yards of the boss. The tanks have to watch out, not to outrun it by a too long distance, since they have Armure magnétique dragging them to the boss, if further than 16 yards away.

After dodging all 5 attacks, the tanks and melees who managed to do this, gain the extra-action (a button like the Ultraxion fight) with the ability: Attaque opportuniste dealing 500.000 damage but has to be used within 3 seconds after gaining.

In set timeframes a Gaz des titans Phase starts, in which the Raid will take 20.000 Frost damage every 1 second and every melee damage is increased by 25%. (including bosses and adds)
To counter this, healing cooldowns should be used and after the adds are killed the bosses should be attacked.

When the bosses reach 10% of their HP, a final Gaz des titans Phase will start, as a soft enrage. In this phase the adds will continue to spawn and have to be CCed/kited, excluding Courage de l’empereur, as they are too much danger to be ignored.

And remeber, this encounter is about managing the adds. The bosses will take lots of damage from the tanks due to Attaque opportuniste.

Here is a video, how we dealt with the bossmechanics on our firstkill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGqKZT_g2fI&feature=BFa&list=PLHs1z6wAbUQDtrnOqLC6ggsBqTuMn2qKG

In addition a tip to the warlocks:

Use your execute (/Brûlure de l’ombre) as much as possible to gain Soul Shards/Burning Embers. It will push your damage a lot and allows to simply spam on any moving target or cast Trait du chaos and Tumulte Brûlure de l’ombre combinations ad infinitum.
Do not forget glyphed , like I did. This makes dealing with the Courage de l’empereur a lot easier.

Heroic additions:

The Gaz des titans lasts the whole combat.
The Devastating Combo lasts for 10 swings.
Whenever an add dies, a Etincelle de Titan will spawn and fixate on a player with a debuff called Énergie focalisée.
When it reaches the target it explodes in a small area and deals 750.000 nature damage.
The key to this encounter is to manage the adds and sparks, given multiple choices:

One person soaks every spark.
This is possible for multiple classes like tanks (due to passive damage reduce and high HP pool) or rogues (say hello to Feinte)
This method depletes the healers mana pretty fast.
Make a cooldown rotation.
Some classes can avoid every damage like hunters, or most of the damage like shadow priests.
Take your time and make a spreadsheet to know that your cooldowns should work, as the spawntimers are fixed. We did this for our kill.
When you have absolutely insane DPS, nuke the sparks down. (only from range, as melee will explode them)
This will most likely not work, because the adds spawn to fast.

As last additions, here is our kill of the heroic mode:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIrAVjETFfI&list=PLHs1z6wAbUQDtrnOqLC6ggsBqTuMn2qKG&index=10

And here is a copy of our spreadsheet, that you may get the idea of our tactic:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At7rgtD3IS2ZdHRFT1Y4ZlI3eUxIYkFDTTFXTnVYX3c

Commentaire de MikeWho3

A note I would like to add for tanks:

With Jan-Xi and Qin-xi the best way to tell where they are going to aim there Devastating Combo is the flashing light which is similar to a cleave spell effect. Oftentimes their stance is misleading in which direction they are going to aim Devastating Combo, so I just ignored them and watched for the cleave effect showing the direction.

You should also watch, if they raise a foot off the ground they are going to stomp. back away from them.

It takes a little practice but after a few attempts I had successfully dodged all 5 combos twice in a row the last time I downed them.

Commentaire de DorianFyre

Dodging his those AoE strikes these bosses do gets you a stack of the Growing Opportunity buff as dippidy mentioned; if you dodge all of them (I think there's 5), you cast Attaque opportuniste, which plays a big part for the melee.

Commentaire de rentedouthero

For the mDPS and Tanks who hate extra action buttons tuck this little bitty into a few of the macros you use often:

/click ExtraActionButton1

Then when you're done with the fight change it back to #/click ExtraActionButton1 . The little' # ' comments it out so you don't have to add it in every week. Of course you do still need to dodge, but the strike will always hit when you manage the awesome feat of dodging all five in a row.

Commentaire de Iroared

For tanks that use LFR to practice dodging stuff, it is recommended you get prepared to Courage adds reaching you (because they usually do). They put a slow effect, so a way to remove that from yourself is very useful. In normal mode or even HC, it is still possible for it to reach tanks due to the all the chaos, so this might still be useful.
For paladins, that would be a simple Bénédiction de liberté. Makes you immune to the slow, and gives melee enough time to kill the add.
For DK's, spec into and use it if you get slowed during combo.
For monks, spec into Soif du tigre, or, even better, get Gants du gladiateur malveillant en peau-de-fer and remove the slow with a simple roll! (won't work if you already have max stacks)
For druids, I guess reshifting works? Idk if there's a way to do it without losing vengeance.
Warriors, .

Commentaire de desec

As of today (5.1 patch) it seems that the debuff triggering the bonus button is being reset to 1 stack after the boss uses his stomp...

I've had 2, 3 and 4 stacks, then he stomped and I was back at 1 stack. So no bonus damage.

Q_Q

Commentaire de Euphemia

Our main issue dealing with this fight proved to be correct assignment of raiders on the right types of adds, here's a quick summary to hopefully help anyone else looking to do these on 10 man normal.

Raid setup:

2 tanks (bear and DK)
3 healers (shaman, paladin, holy priest)
2 melee (rogue and DK)
3 ranged (moonkin, hunter, shaman)

Tank needs to learn their Waltz!
We would have each tank pick up one boss each, and tank them by each of the stairs leading down to the fighting area, as this is laid out to perfectly give space for the bosses to do their Devastating Combos without having them overlap. Each tank would focus on doing the dance with their assigned boss, so as to avoid as much damage as they could and ideally also getting the Attaque opportuniste special ability by dodging all five attacks in each Devastating Combo. All this took was practise, and the tanks getting used to what range they could move at without being pulled in by the Armure magnétique.

Healers do their magic right
Assigning a healer to each tank + raid when in range, and the third healer to the crazy bunch running all over to be killing adds seemed to work fine for us. We'd mark the non-tank healer up with a mark, so that ranged would stack on that healer during each Gaz des titans phase, at a safe range from the Devastating Combos of the boss we'd focus our dps on. For healing purposes, we would always focus all dps on one boss during the Titan Gas phases.

Birds of a feather...
So, in the end, the dps roles seemed to be the make or break for us on this fight. We tested several ways of assigning, and ended up with this one as the best. Because of the setup on this particular night, we would have different priorities for killing adds for different kinds of dps.

Basically, the kill order would be as follows (you would have to change this around depending on how your damage dealers are, numberwise, and also as for how much awereness they have):
For melee: Courage de l’empereur > Force de l’empereur > Rage de l’empereur > BOSS
For ranged: Courage de l’empereur > Rage de l’empereur > Force de l’empereur > BOSS

So, all dps would ALWAYS prioritise the Courage whenever it was up, as its sole goal in life is to make life hell for the tank it fixates on - thus, killing them before they reach their target should have 100% prio for everyone. Drop all you're doing and get over there. Also, do it the rogue way, please - from behind - they put up that shield in front of them so they have to be attacked from behind.

The goal was to have cleared out the adds right as the Titan Gas phase starts, as no new adds spawn in the first 3 TG phases on normal mode, which frees everyone up to dps the assigned boss during this phase. Have your melee guys learn the dance as well, so they can get the Opportunistic Strikes in during these phases as well, and have the rest of the raid stacked at a safe range as to not lose anyone to silly stuff.

Wanna be my hero?
Sure, we did heroism, or Ancient Hysteria, if you may - we popped it right as the first Titan Gas phase started, as we'd have close to nothing left on adds before dancing with the boss.

It's not over untill it's over...
Normal mode gives you 3 "free" Titan Gas phases where no adds spawn at all, however, the fourth TG phase is the soft enrage of the fight, where adds will still be spawning and eventually will overwhelm your raid unless you kill the bosses before the adds and incoming damage kills you.

Best of luck to everyone. Now, go have fun on heroic modez!

Commentaire de Icetor

There are 3 main differences in heroic mode.

First, every add (rage, courage, strength) that dies spawns a when they die. These adds cannot be stunned, fixate on a random, non-tank raid member, and blow up for 750k nature dmg when they get within 8 yards of a player. If this weren't bad enough, any enemy mobs in the same aoe radius gain a 50% attack speed buff for 2 minutes (almost instant wipe if it's on one of the bosses).

Second, titan gas is no longer a phase. It fills the room from the start of the fight, though it ticks for less damage. It also still buffs melee dmg, so your tanks and any melee on the bosses should be happy. This also means that instead of titan gas, every 5 sets of rages, there will be a lull in add spawns. during this time, healers can regain mana, and all dps should be directed to the boss.

Thirdly, devastating combo now lasts for 10 swings, instead of 5, and the damage from opportunistic strike is 1 million damage, up from 500k.

In order to defeat this encounter, you must assign a rotation of damage cooldowns to deal with the . you must also be careful to keep the sparks grouped enough so that short-duration mitigators don't wear off between the first and second spark damage. (note: if you jump when in the spark's radius, it will explode quicker)

All other mechanics are the same, tanks need to be good at dancing, courage mobs need to die before they reach tanks (though hand of freedom will allow tanks to keep dancing) and strengths need to be kept out of the raid.

video of our first kill can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5cN7aOzwKDw

Commentaire de Bahthalend

the stomp in their combo is one of the most rage inducing things i've encountered, seems like the effect radius is a bit larger than the graphic and unless you have double digit latency the only way to dodge it is to be running away ahead of time.

Commentaire de Ryawy

Something worth mentioning about the Devastating Strike is that it reaches from the edge of the half-circle to the other side of the red circle at the boss's feet rather than down the middle. This means if you see a blue arc (or two, if he does the frontal attack) you will need to move to the other side of the red circle to be completely safe. However, you shouldn't go any farther or any closer than you have to because you may have trouble dodging the next arc. From what I have seen so far, the longest distance you will need to run will be if you get a forward thrust ability after a stomp because you'll need to run out then back in. If done correctly, it shouldn't be an issue.
One more thing for tanks to be aware of is that the boss will turn to face you after each individual swing before making his next move.

This information is from the raid finder. If hitboxes, ability ranges, or other things are different in normal or heroic, please do say so. These are just the little things people may have noticed already.

Commentaire de TheCheat54

Anyone know if the sword that Jan-xi is wielding is used as an item model somewhere? It's pretty neat.

Commentaire de 1090966

titan gas effects you if you are unlucky enough to get suck outside the room

Commentaire de Eillesthis

To start this fight on heroic you don't use the console. Rather, break the steam pipes on the extreme sides of the lower level.

Commentaire de GoRozZo

C’est juste une question d’équilibre is a pretty annoying achievement that demands skills from each member in raid. Nowadays you have advantage and you can easily stop DPS and wait if you failed first try. Video-version from the sight of Rogue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC20Vkc2El0

Commentaire de 1197403

If only I had a penny for every time someone cracks a joke like "The Emperor's privates are erect". Anyway the encounter is one of my favorite one in Pandaria.

Commentaire de padmanek

Soloed by 688 Combat Rogue.
Flask + food + prepot.
Used Drums of Fury + Draenic Agility Potion for Jan and Qin.
Recuperate up all the time with Leeching Poison and Recovery Glyph.
Used all the defensive CDs when available ( Combat Readiness, Smoke Cloud, Glyphed Cloak, double Evasion )
Healing Tonic was also needed.

Commentaire de hersfold

This can be soloed as of end-game WoD, but it is somewhat difficult even for heavily-armored players. Since both bosses will be focused on you, it is nearly impossible to avoid the Arc dévastateur attack, meaning your armor will be completely depleted by the second assault. This will require substantial healing, particularly during the Gaz des titans phase when enemy melee attacks are further empowered.

Your main focus needs to be managing the larger adds, which can kill you more effectively than the bosses alone when your armor is gone. Force de l’empereur needs to be downed as soon as he reaches you owing to his stun ability; watch your feet and make sure you're not inside his circles. Courage de l’empereur's shield is particularly troublesome, as he will always be facing you, making dealing damage very difficult. Your best bet here is to use heavy AoE attacks, which circumvent the shield, although you should be able to deal a number of heavy blows if you can manage to hit him immediately after he jumps from the alcove, before his shield is raised. This may be difficult since the bosses won't allow you to move very quickly.

Commentaire de Pinkpaw

Soloed the whole place as a Vengeance DH on 10-man, kinda yoloed last fight completley but it was ni bigger problem.

Commentaire de Taoma

Will of the Emperor 25 heroic is currently bugged and the encounter cannot be started, the Console de commande cassée is..broken lol You have to destroy 4 out of the 6 Ancient Mogu Pipes that are in the arena to start the encounter.

Commentaire de Aeliel

Soloed 10N as a Guardian druid, 709ilvl (mostly invasion gear with the legendary ring and a fully-upgraded invasion weapon). I know this is going to be pointless in less than a week when the expansion hits, but some knowledge might help with higher difficulties, so:

I used DPS trinkets, but if I were to be doing this again, I'd probably use Marque de Destin funeste suprême and possibly a tanking trinket in the other slot, because I ran out of tricks at the end and made it by the skin of my teeth.
No flask, no food, no DPS potion (I should have, but it was a half-assed attempt to see if I could manage, honestly - if I hadn't killed it I'd have used them the next go).
Tambours de fureur would've helped if I'd had them. Alas.
Saved defensive CDs for when my armor was gone to Arc dévastateur. Also used a Healing Tonic.
Was specced like so. Might be better to have Incarnation instead of Galactic Guardian in the 5th tier, just to have the cooldown to help burst down Jan-xi and Qin-xi.
Swap to Emperor's Strength and kill it ASAP - the stuns are too dangerous to just wait for it to die to natural cleave.
You can't directly attack Emperor's Courage (unless you make it to its drop location and get a few good hits in before it gets its shield up), but it dies fairly fast to cleave.

Also soloed 10N as a Prot Warrior with similar gear, and good grief. Dur au mal (with Jusqu’au bout) + Victoire imminente = faceroll.

Commentaire de Seahnjin

As a freshly dinged 110 assa rogue (and by freshly dinged, I mean ilvl 787, never quested in Suramar kind of fresh), I wanted to give solo 25HM MSV a try. Beside the usual Pinned Arrows shenanigans on the 4th boss, Will is where I hit a wall.

The -xi twins just hit too damn hard once they're done with their first Devastating Arc combo, which is also when the number of adds starts getting a bit messy.
Switching to normal mode fixed it- they died before I did, quite easily.

I suppose I'll try again with better gear, or with a tank alt. But my point is - if you expected to waltz in at level 110 as a DPS and faceroll everything in 25HM, note that these guys are still much harder than the rest of the raid. Good luck !

Commentaire de cstober2010

After gearing up a bit in Legion, I wanted to test out 25m Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults. Level 110 Fury Warrior ilvl 828. It wasn't as faceroll as I had hoped lol. You can solo this, it will just take some time.

Will of the Emperors is a DPS race from my experience. It all seems smooth sailing until the very end. If you are on heroic mode, destroy the pipes in order to start the encounter. Kill the adds, you'll need to aoe in order to kill the guys with the barriers. When Jan-xi and Qin-xi spawn, they seem to go down fairly quickly. They don't hit too hard for the majority of the fight. There will be adds stunning you briefly throughout the fight. Where it gets tough is the last 20% it seems. They will start hitting insanely hard. You'll probably be dead in a couple seconds. Luckily, I had execute+battle cry and they were dead before I was. Save your CDs for the end and you should be able to down them. If timing is off, you might wipe once or twice. Good luck!

I was under the impression that raids that are two expansions below us would be considered legacy and we get a bonus to damage -- however, this is not the case. In MoP, our damage remains unchanged (compared to Legion).

Commentaire de cstober2010

10m Heroic MSV -- Level 104 Windwalker Monk i728

Solo'd this boss along with the entire raid with ease. If you're lower level, just be sure to use defensives and you should be okay. At this level, most of these fights are DPS races because you do take a lot more damage than you would at 110. Generally on these fights I was peaking 350k and ending 150k. Ended at 300k on Stone Guard. WW Monks are OP...But still, 10m heroic is incredibly easy.

Commentaire de wowogamer

As a Feral druid, item lvl 834 (25 legendary traits activated), I could not do this on 25m Heroic due to the enrage at the end of the fight + the constant stuns.

But as a Guardian, also item lvl 834 (16 traits activated), it was possible and not hard at all. The trick is to have the legendary trait Embrace of the Nightmare activated. It makes Rage of the Sleeper give you immunity to loss of control effects and also gives you 25% extra damage and leech for 10 seconds. You simply have to save Rage of the Sleeper until the bosses enrage at the end of the fight, and you'll be fine.

Remember, that the shielded mobs can only be taken down by AoE when you solo this encounter. Actually, 80% of my damage was from AoE attacks, so you’ll be fine with pressing only Thrash and Swipe most of this encounter :)

Commentaire de cjsiege

Tried this today on 25H as a ilvl 870 shadow priest and could not get it done. Shadow just lacks enough AoE to keep the adds from consistently stunning you, which means you can't channel which puts a large dent in your DPS. I tried a few different ways. I tried to focus on keeping the adds in check but couldn't beat the enrage timer, and focusing on the big guys meant I was being stunned too often to keep my DPS up.

Commentaire de kerrymayall

If you're on here trying to figure out how to start the fight because the Broken Console doesn't do anything - you'll notice 2x sets of 3 pipes along the wall - these have to be activated.

Commentaire de grumbl8

Made it to FORGE OF THE ENDLESS as 10-man Heroic Raid. Activated machine, after 15 seconds or so it closes. No activity after that, so can't complete this raid.

Frustrating.

Commentaire de AlduwinsBane

Activaed the pipes for 25 Heroic and locked in the room with no boss or anything

Commentaire de Apolyptica

IMPORTANT : On Heroic mode all previous bosses must be killed and you actually have to destroy only 4 out of the 6 Ancient Mogu Pipes !

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Jan Xi <Main ouverte de l’empereur>

Ce PNJ se trouve dans Caveaux Mogu’shan .

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Héroïque		Mythique
Mortel		Important
Tank		DPS
Soigneur		Interruptible
Magie		Malédiction
Poison		Maladie
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Jan Xi et Qin Xi

Jan Xi et Qin Xi s’activent après 90 s et partagent leurs points de vie.

Attaque opportuniste – Si un personnage-joueur évite les attaques d’une combinaison dévastatrice, il obtient une Opportunité croissante. Si un personnage-joueur évite toutes les attaques d'une combinaison dévastatrice, il gagne pendant 3 sec la compétence Attaque opportuniste, qui inflige 273 points de dégâts physiques.

Etincelle de titan

Quand un assemblage meurt, il libère une étincelle de titan.

Énergie focalisée – Une nouvelle étincelle de titan se concentre uniquement sur un personnage-joueur, jusqu’à ce que ce dernier meure ou qu’elle ne puisse plus attaquer.
Énergie de la création – Quand une étincelle de titan meurt ou s'approche de sa cible, elle libère l’Énergie de la création. Cette énergie inflige 204 points de dégâts de Nature à tous les personnages-joueurs à moins de 8 mètres et dynamise tous les assemblages, en augmentant leur vitesse d’attaque de 50% pendant 2 min. Cet effet se cumule.

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