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Commentaire de Homi93

Monture obtenue ce jour avec le vairon péché dans mon fief. Il m'aura fallu environ une 50ene de vairons.

Commentaire de Azelolz

Looté très facilement. Au bout de mon deuxième essai j'ai obtenue la monture épique. :)

Commentaire de Rukene

Sur 500 poissons avec une compétence de pêche de 1100.

Vairon givre-profond 5% de drop.

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Commentaire de MeowRawrWoff

This I got from fishing in my lvl 3 pond. I threw it in and it spawned a Frostdeep Cavedweller and it dropped and . Though I already have I was suprised.

Commentaire de purpleblob

I just got Tortue de monte off of killing him. So there's the Tortue de mer then there's this as well.

http://i.imgur.com/HzJvnZ1.png

Commentaire de bloodvalor

This guys also just dropped the Journal détrempé for me!

Commentaire de Enquillion

You can invite a friend, have them phase to your garrison and kill the murloc together. That way you can give away the hat/pole :)

Commentaire de Kaigami

Confirmed to drop the Sea Turtle, got it on my very first kill.

I reckon the drop chance will actually be rather high, considering the huge amount of time you have to put into fishing to get this far, not just on draenor (100 enormous of each fish is like 1500~ casts or more), this is somewhat of a consolation prize to those of us that didnt get lucky enough to pick one up on our way here.

A sort of "well, i guess you probably deserve this by now"

Edit: Oh and for what its worth, that procced the "Turtles All The Way Down" Achievement, looting it off the mob

Commentaire de Aeyote

I can confirm that the Tortue de mer drops from this guy. I just looted it on my 7th kill.

Proof: http://oi59.tinypic.com/2djb5k.jpg

Commentaire de AwmgRyan

I just received an Unusual Compass from this mob today.

Commentaire de Nighteyes

Summoned by using Vairon givre-profond in your horde garrison
Vairon givre-profond is fished up in your garrison if you have Cabane de pêche Niveau 3 in a lvl 3 garrison

For alliance, see Troglodyte de Chutelune summoned by Carpe de Chutelune in the alliance garrison

Commentaire de hmalacco

Well, I farmed for Vairon givre-profond for a long time and I'd like to post the results.
I farmed 1000 fish in my horde garrison.
I got:
Croissant-sabre énorme (759 : 75.9%)
Furtif agnathe énorme (35 :3.4%)
Scorpion de mer énorme (34 : 3.4%)
Hoki des flots noirs énorme (31 : 3.1%)
Esturgeon jaune aveugle énorme (28 : 2.8%)
Dormeur tacheté énorme (28 : 2.8%)
Ammonite de feu énorme (24 : 2.4%)
Enorme grangousier des abysses (22 : 2.2%)
Vairon givre-profond (16 : 1.6%)
Croissant-sabre (16 : 1.6%)
Dormeur tacheté (2 : 0.2%)
Hoki des flots noirs (2 : 0.2%)
Grangousier des abysses (1 : 0.1%)
Appât à esturgeons jaunes aveugles (1 : 0.1%)
Esturgeon jaune aveugle (1 :0.1%)

Well, I farmed with the Canne à pêche éphémère and the Chapeau en forme de poisson. It took me to the 1100 fishing skill, since I have my fishing skill up to 700. I forgot to mention that I also used the Suprême de vers. and that's all.

I dropped the book that allow me to find fish (Journal détrempé), the Pet (Clampant des rivages) and the toy Boussole insolite along with a lot of Suprême de vers and Canne à pêche éphémère that last 1 day. and the fishing hat Chapeau à tentacules or Chapeau en forme de poisson. (all drops from frostdeeep cavedweller)

Well That's it. I hope I helped.

Commentaire de triggz

The first one of these I spawned got instantly ganked and destroyed by my Benjamin Gibb and I got no loot off it despite managing to whack it once. Recommend not having a bodyguard or follower with you when using the minnows.

Commentaire de selahbela

Attention, mount-collectors!
For those of you trying to decide whether or not you'll fish for lunkers first or for the Vairon givre-profond, I'd recommend the minnows. Pièce porte-bonheur de Nat drops off the Cavedwellers as well, so you'll be killing two birds with one stone. Of course this is coming from the woman who bitterly shakes her fist at the RNG gods, so I plan to be fishing for both the turtles for a while. So far I have received 10 coins, after about 30 kills. I'll update when I can! Good luck getting the turtles.

Commentaire de gzimmer

As of 6.1, drop rates for worm supreme from the cavedwellers has drastically dropped. I used to get at least a full 20 stack of these for a kill and now it's maybe 2-3 per kill.

Commentaire de MrDeadserious

As of 6.1 they now have a small chance of dropping 20-30 Esprit primordial

Commentaire de 1019041

the drop rate of Super-poisson and other items is alot lower after the patch

Commentaire de Danixp

These creatures are spawned by the player.

If you catch a Vairon givre-profond in your Garrison lake, you can summon a Frostdeep Cavedewller (for Horde) or Lunarfall Cavedweller (for Alliance) which loot contains the Tortue de mer and even the TCG loot Tortue de monte although the drop rate is very small, you have ~0,5% chance for these mounts.

I got lucky today, and looted the Sea Turtle from them. I wish you the same luck as i had! :)

Commentaire de Megrrimar

just had riding turtle, drop after 481 casts and my 19 cavedweller kill :)
good luck out there

seems if you have all the dreanor baits for enourmous fish in ur bags, the drop rate of the frost Deep minnow increases slightly since the other bait drops are removed from drop table it seems, once 1 of each is bagged, hope this is somewhat helpfull since i have had 23 drops within about 4 hours of fishing using this method
fishing skill aprox 1000-1100 depending

Commentaire de Unfinishe

Got Tortue de mer on the 268th kill, Tortue de monte on the 323th

Commentaire de N3cr0m4nc3r

In case anyone was wondering, you can get both Tortue de monte and Tortue de mer from the same Troglodyte givre-profond. I just started farming Vairon givre-profond and on my 4th i got both mounts. I don't know if i'm one of the luckiest players around but i've yet to see other mounts that have way more chances of dropping. I've attached my screenshot with the drop.

Edit: Until my screenshot gets approved i'm adding this external screenshot link as proof: http://oi61.tinypic.com/iqhngg.jpg

Commentaire de 1482782

The loot table has changed. Other comments have addressed this, slightly, with the lower supreme worm drop rate.

Super-poisson and Poisson-teigne are also way down, if not completely off the loot table. I have summoned over 30 Troglodyte givre-profond in the past few days, probably over 50 in the past weeks and have not been getting those to drop. I am actually fine with that because I have the achieve and got sick of mailing them to alts.

Other items on the loot table will be misrepresented in the drop% because you will learn/use the item and become ineligible for it to drop again while summoning+killing+looting solo. Gathering 5 of Vairon givre-profond and joining any of the LFG garrison raid-sized groups, for the dailies etc, will allow you to prove this again and again. The recipe will drop fairly often, and I believe the mount and pet will be possible drops, but ones that you are ineligible to roll on or loot.

If there is a more technical/appropriate term for drops that wont ever show for after learning (opposed to a drop like the mount off of Huolon that will drop again and again for you) please let me know. Also let me know if, and how, that might be factored into the current loot tables.

Commentaire de Skisly

Got Tortue de mer on my 53rd kill, still don't get Tortue de monte after 144 kills.

Edit: Finally got Tortue de monte from Troglodyte givre-profond number 312. I'm glad that its over.

Commentaire de 1496357

killed like 50-60 and no awesomefish :(

Commentaire de Refistixus

He also drops Boussole insolite, just dropped one for me.

EDIT: Also, don't be afraid of the drops on mounts. I was casually fishing and hanging out in my garrison with my buddy, he got Tortue de monte after 3rd kill and I got Tortue de mer after 26th kill. I know it is just plain luck, however there are more posts with numbers not very different. So, hang in there and happy fishing :)

EDIT2: Got my Tortue de monte after another 15 kills :) feeling lucky :P

Commentaire de yassr

Hello i just farmed for 3 days ... killed him about 260 times.

I don't know if i am considered lucky or not but here is the list what i got xD.

Boussole insolite x4
Monocle de noble x3
Canne à pointe de diamant x2
Chapeau de jungle endommagé x1
Tortue de mer x1
Boutons de manchette antiques en argent x1
Canne à pêche en os x1
Canne à pêche ornée de joyaux x1
Chapeau de pêche déformé x1
Recette : Brune du capitaine Rumsey x1
Fiole de poison scellée x2
Pièce porte-bonheur de Nat x68

still waiting for the other mount ...

Commentaire de Bartoh

Just got my Tortue de mer to drop from this guy. Took about 26 hours split in two days.
-Dropped on my 201st Troglodyte givre-profond kill and 5338 casts.
-My fishing skill was at 1100 the whole time by using Chapeau en forme de poisson, Canne à pêche éphémère and Suprême de vers with maxed 700 fishing skill.
-Everything averaged to about 17.5 seconds/cast (including time to kill Troglodyte givre-profond and reapplying buffs, as well as short bathroom breaks etc.)
-My Vairon givre-profond catch rate was 3.8%
-I made about 13k gold off of fish flesh since I have started as well as about 20k more worth on the auction house that still needs to sell. I wouldn't say this is the most efficient way of making gold but sure is a nice side effect.

Some other items of note I received were:
Boussole insolitex6
Alliance en orx4
Fiole de poison scelléex3
Canne à pêche en osx1
Canne à pêche ornée de joyauxx1

Commentaire de Tommyjoe

After having farmed about 2000 fish, and 62 Vairon givre-profond and got both the Tortue de mer and the Tortue de monte. I got Tortue de mer after 51 kills and Tortue de monte just 11 kills after the first mount. Good luck (I used Chapeau en forme de poisson, Canne à pêche éphémère and Suprême de vers with a total of 1100 fishing level).
Good luck getting these. :)

Commentaire de Pocksy

I had Boussole insolite drop from a Frostdeep Cavedweller a few minutes ago, I don't see it on the drop list so I thought I'd mention for anyone interested.

Commentaire de DreamyEmz

After only an hour of farming and 10 kills later, I finally after many years was awarded my Sea Turtle and Achievement! The excitement is real!

Commentaire de silverborn

Well, I doubt anyone will try to do that but don't try killing more than 1 at a time.
I just used 1 fish, didn't kill the dweller, waited another 30 and used another fish but no dweller spawned.

Commentaire de Evellia

I was fishing for the first time in my garrison and on my 13th cast I received my first Vairon givre-profond. The Troglodyte givre-profond dropped:

Chair d'esturgeon jaune aveugle x 26
Potion de mana draenique x 2
Tortue de monte x1
Suprême de vers x2
Fendoir à poisson x1
Chapeau à tentacules x1

Screenshot

Commentaire de Turof

You need to have a level 3 fishing shack to even fish these damn things up! Good info like that needs to be first.

Commentaire de Areia25

With a fishing level of 1100 I've been getting Vairon givre-profond at a rate of 3.5%. I've just received the Tortue de mer after 79 Minnows. In that time I've also recieved 3x Boussole insolite, 1x Monocle de noble and 14x Pièce porte-bonheur de Nat. Still waiting on the Tortue de monte though!

Commentaire de Xiosgold

Alright, so after 355 Troglodyte givre-profond kills I've gotten everything except Tortue de monte, but I won't give up as the mount hunter that I am.

11450 Fish Caught
200-300+ Chapeau à tentacules , Chapeau en forme de poisson & Canne à pêche éphémère
1 Canne à pêche ornée de joyaux
1 Canne à pêche en os <-- Really nice lookin!'
1 Tortue de mer Kill 260 (will link picture)
1 Clampant des rivages
7 Boussole insolite
111 Pièce porte-bonheur de Nat Still need reputation though(sadface)
1000+ Esprit primordial

After fishing for the Turtle mounts for I don't know how many hours, I can tell you that I have not gotten a single Super-poisson from killing that Murloc 350+ times. So they no longer drop.

I am using Chapeau à tentacules , Canne à pêche éphémère & Suprême de vers. + max fishing skill. 700(max skill) + 100(hat) + 100(rod) + 200 (Fishing Lure) = 1100.

What you should think about.

Don't throw Vairon givre-profond if the Murloc is still alive, because it won't spawn if you do ( I've done this twice).

Make sure you don't have 5 Vairon givre-profond in your bags when you fish because you will not be able to loot it in any way if you catch one.( I've done this three times)

Don't let your body-guard kill the Murloc because you will not be able to loot it if he does.(never done this)

I've been fishing this hole time with all of the baits still in my backpacks because a lot of comments said that the chance of getting Vairon givre-profond increase, not that it makes sence but I still did what they recommended.

DON'T vendor your fish SELL it on the Auction House, I've made over 100k gold for selling all of these fishes & on EU Draenor(which is a high pop server). You might get even more if you're on a low or medium pop server.

You can invite a friend or two if you feel like giving away a couple of item(s), but I would recommend having Master Loot activated if the mount would drop because well you know, "humans".

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Thanks for reading and hope it helped & don't give up!

Edit: 440 kills still nothing !

Edit2: Took a break, now at 500 and still nothing.

Edit3: Finally it dropped on my 539th murloc ! Thank god ! NEVER GIVE UP ! HUZZAH

About 16-17k fishes caught.

Commentaire de Jadecore

Got the Tortue de mer after 260th Troglodyte givre-profond kill and at long last had the Tortue de monte drop on my 435th kill. This was by far the most tedious of all grinds I've ever done but in the end it was worth it. Other notable drops included; 5 x Monocle de noble, 2 x Canne à pointe de diamant, 2 x Alliance en or 2 x Canne à pêche ornée de joyaux, 1 x Canne à pêche en os and I don't know how many Boussole insolite'.

At the end of the grind I had a 3.9% drop of Vairon givre-profond.

DO NOT GIVE UP! It only takes one little Vairon givre-profond/Carpe de Chutelune and that one could always be the next one you catch :)

Commentaire de TheLightfire

As of this patch, the loot from this mob is personal. So you can gather a group of up to 40 people fishing in your garrison each being eligible for the loot and thus having the chance to obtain the 2 precious mounts.

I just got the non TCG turtle with this method :)

Commentaire de Sarthorius

For those that use the SlashDeleteAll+MacroToolkit addons to clear a set list of items from the bags I made these mostly for the fish that drop from him, baits too:

/mtdg
/sda i worm supreme
/sda i Draenic Rejuvenation Potion
/sda i Draenic Mana Potion
/sda i Healing Tonic
/sda i Enormous Abyssal Gulper Eel
/sda i Abyssal Gulper Eel
/sda i Abyssal Gulper Eel Flesh
/sda i Abyssal Gulper Eel Bait
/sda i Enormous Blackwater Whiptail
/sda i Blackwater Whiptail
/sda i Blackwater Whiptail Flesh
/sda i Blackwater Whiptail Bait
/sda i Enormous Blind Lake Sturgeon
/sda i Blind Lake Sturgeon
/sda i Blind Lake Sturgeon Flesh
/sda i Blind Lake Sturgeon Bait
/sda i Enormous Fat Sleeper
/sda i Fat Sleeper
/sda i Fat Sleeper Flesh
/sda i Fat Sleeper Bait
/sda i Enormous Fire Ammonite
/sda i Fire Ammonite
/sda i Fire Ammonite Tentacle
/sda i Fire Ammonite Bait
/sda i Enormous Jawless Skulker
/sda i Jawless Skulker
/sda i Jawless Skulker Flesh
/sda i Jawless Skulker Bait
/sda i Enormous Sea Scorpion
/sda i Sea Scorpion
/sda i Sea Scorpion Segment
/sda i Sea Scorpion Bait
/sda i Bright Baubles
/sda i Glass Fishing Bobber
/sda i Enormous Crescent Saberfish
/sda i Crescent Saberfish

The low chance drops I left off this, but If you want you can include them, just start a line with /sda i .

Commentaire de Terlon

After fishing in a premade group with over 40 people, these mobs also drop the toy called @Unusual Compass.

Commentaire de jjanchan

Since the changes to Personal Loot in the Legion pre-patch, the lot from Troglodyte givre-profond and Troglodyte de Chutelune can be looted by EVERYONE in a raid group.
This means that creating a 40-man raid of people that are fishing simultaneously in the garrison can increase your changes of fishing up rare items like Tortue de monte and Tortue de mer by 40 times. There are many such groups in the Group Finder as of late July, 2016.

Note that everyone fishing must have the achievement Hameçonneur de Draenor in order to fish up the Vairon givre-profonds/Carpe de Chutelune that summon the Cavedwellers. The achievement is NOT required to loot the mount, however.

The loot method should be set to Personal loot, of course.

Commentaire de evildisco

FYI - they must have nerfed it since Legion dropped. I was just in a raid group and only one person was able to loot the body even when it was set to personal. Just don't waste your time if you are trying to get coins as I was getting coins wayyyy faster by myself.

Commentaire de watitiz06

has anyone got a duplicate mount like you already have it? i have about 500 kills, and havent seen either turtle mount but i already got both of them. i hope i didnt waste days been trying to get the tcg turtle to sell......

Commentaire de Terrassen

I just tried it with a raid group with loot set to personal and it isn't as effective. Not sure if it's been the same before, but at least today with personal loot only one of the raid members get the "white-colored" loot. Items that are rare quality or higher are rolled on by everyone, as the loot window comes up.

I think it's more effective to do it alone, rather than have that low chance in getting a mount in a raid group. Unless you are being boosted by friends that already have the mount(s), that helps fish for the Minnows/Carps and uses them.

Commentaire de hulusta

Hey everyone! just want to give you an update, as of BfA you CAN still get the riding and sea turtle! it took me ALOT of killing the cavedwellers. i started at 0 nat pagle coins and ended up with 90 nat pagle coins, i'm still a stranger to nat pagle xD Don't give up it might take you a bit longer, just like me. But you'll get it eventually good luck everyone out there (don't know the exact number of cave dwellers i killed but based on statistics of the nat pagle drop chance and such, probably around 250)

Commentaire de selkie47

You need to have a level 3 fishing shack to even fish these damn things up! Good info like that needs to be first.

For those trying to farm for baubleworms, take note of this

Commentaire de KeviSZN

Here's my depressing experience:

- 11,418 total fish caught
- 582 Vairon givre-profond caught (5.09% rate)
- Tortue de mer found on kill 446
- Tortue de monte found on kill 582
- 1588 Esprit primordial
- 170 Pièce porte-bonheur de Nat
- 22 Rocher très malchanceux
- 16 Fiole de poison scellée
- 13 Boussole insolite
- 3 Clampant des rivages
- 2 Bock orné
- 2 Alliance en or
- 1 Chapeau de jungle endommagé
- 1 Boutons de manchette antiques en argent

I used Pêcheur de Terradiance , Flotteur surdimensionné, and Chapeau de pêche déformé in case that matters.
Good luck. Don't give up, you can do it :)

Commentaire de Katchet

After a few hours (maybe around 30 kills?) the Tortue de mer dropped for me! Hoping to get the Riding Turtle next.

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