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Commentaire de droodhaxzomg

EDIT: So almost immediately after the patch came out I quit for 9 months, and now this post is very outdated. Wowhead has a guide (viewable here) that far outclasses my comment. If you are looking for relevant information regarding the legendary questline, you will find it there.

If you did the 5.0 questline with Wrathion, prepare to see something familiar.

First, Wrathion asks you to talk to him... Upstairs. Presumably after yammering on about the fate of Azeroth blah blah, he directs you to the first real meat of the questline: killing things!
Here, you have to reach Exalted with The Black (artist currently known as) Prince for I Need A Champion (tenuous Footloose jokes optional) by killing hostile mobs on the Isle of Thunder.
Alongside this quest, you get Secrets of the First Empire wherein you have to collect Secrets of the Empire in the Throne of Thunder.
Are we good? Good. Now comes the next part, which depends on how the 5.2 content is gated. Eventually, an area called the Lightning Forge will be unlocked for a quest called The Lightning Forge. Wrathion tells you to meet him at this area and suggests being ready for a fight, so my guess is stuff goes down (this isn't available just yet!) and you have to fight and kill some guys. You've handled the last 14 raid tiers, I'm sure this is no threat.

The rest... isn't really mapped out yet. The quests have been datamined and are in Wowhead, but it's just guesswork as to what goes where. There is a quest to kill guys and collect Titan Runestones for the quest Echoes of the Titans, which reminds me of another legendary quest altogether. (They use the same icon!)

Additionally, you have to kill the Thunder King (call him Bill) for Heart of the Thunder King. That part is speculation, but perhaps you can see why I think that. Spirit of the Storm Lord and A Reckoning aren't developed yet, so who knows where they go?

The Crown of Heaven is the last quest, which rewards a ~~helm enchant~~ legendary META GEM which benefits your class less than any other class, and you should probably ask Blizzard for some buffs. Again, I could be wrong, but then I'd be out a shoe and up a meal.

The long and short of this is that you should probably start farming Trillium (or Ghost Iron for the transmute) now, because when the patch hits? Oh boy.

~~This post will be updated as information is added.~~

Commentaire de svann

It might be 20 trillium bars not 40. When he is offering the quest it says 40 but when it gets in your log it says 20.

Commentaire de Eillesthis

Previous: Le roi-tonnerre
Parallel to: Il me faut un champion
Next: La forge du Tonnerre

Retrouvez-moi là-haut may be an alternate breadcrumb, but I completed L’appel du chef de meute before 5.2 and I never saw it.

Commentaire de 696607

Since it's not clear from the quest text:

Les secrets de l'empire drop from bosses in Trône du tonnerre.
If dropped in normal or heroic mode, ~~everyone on the quest can loot a copy.~~ the item will have a chance to automatically go to players on the quest (eg. not master-looted).
In LFR each player has an individual chance to loot one.

Commentaire de 784734

tell Maître des donjons Vislar about this quest :D

Commentaire de saganth

1 Spirit of Harmony = 5 White Trillium Ore or 5 Black Trillium ore
2 White Trillium Ore + 2 Black Trillium ore = 1 Trillium Bar
Therefore 2 Spirit of Harmony = 2.5 Trillium Bar , and 4 Spirit of Harmony = 5 Trillium Bar
40 Trillium Bar / 5 = 8
8 * 4 = 32 Spirit of Harmony

1 Farm, at 16 available plots, can produce 1.6 Spirit of Harmony per day. 32 / 1.6 = 20 days of farming nothing but Songbell Seeds to get 40 Trillium Bar , provided you have someone who can smelt them for you.

Commentaire de 121744

Will these drop if you have already done the raid for that week? Or are they like gear used to be where you could only get it on the first time trough each week?

Commentaire de staramor

Miners employment act !

Mining 800 ore takes about two hours circling around the Valley of Four Winds northern hillsides(don't forget the lower foothills below and to the west of the daily kill quest mobs up top.. and don't forget the tower near the crops and the dike walls closer to Half-hill)

Fill two bags full of raw ore.. let your blacksmith make 400 bars as you take your dog for a walk afk, send the 400 bars to your alchemist(or your gulid mates) and have them transmute the stack... as a transmute master you'll probably end up with close to 48, not 40 bars

For those of us that kind of like mining.. and/or those that like to get things done as they play games.. like calling people you owe calls to (mom, brothers, friends?) .. .blab away as you mine.. complete your quest.. feel wealthy, and feel happy about being social in RL : )

For the trillium collection part of the quest, the approach of |Mine a huge stack of ghost iron| - |make 400 ghost iron bars| - | transmute the whole stack to trillium| is a simple and not very attention demanding.

Certainly the Quest PUTS Miners to work! even if they'r just putting bars on the AH to buy for those that prefer other gold making grinds.

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(Obviously on a high pop server you're better off at 3 AM west coast time... : ) -- but without a CRZ and with the very fast node spawns .. you're bound to find a time that works for your server)q

Commentaire de bwanadik

This may be a stupid question, but since it not explicitly clear do you have to fabricate the trillium yourself? Meaning you need to have either Mining or Alchemy as professions? While these are both honorable trades my first alt to get this quest already has two other profs max'd. I know you can grow the trillium/ghost iron ore but you still need mining or alchemy to turn it into trillium bars. Those of you that have max'd profs know that there is a substantial investment of time and/or gold involved in accomplishing this. Do I now have to give one of these up and level either mining or alchemy to complete this quest? Or can I acquire the trillium from an alt or the AH?

Commentaire de 169025

I planned my black prince quests out, and here is my experience.

I was on my 3rd week of Test of Valor, did all the other raids and dungeons, except ToT for my valor points, but I was still a bit short on valor points to complete the quest.
I read that Lei Shen has a 100% chance of dropping the Secrets of the Empire, so I went to do Pinnacle of Storms part of ToT to gather the last of my valors.

After that was completed, I went and did the the battlegrounds quests etc, up until Secrets of the Empire.

Went in last wing of ToT again, nothing dropped, not even Lei Shen.

I guess if you're planning out your black prince quests like me, do not kill any bosses in ToT on the week that you think you will receive the Secrets of the Empire quest to maximize your chances.

Commentaire de gr33nzo

I've been keeping track on my alt, ended up taking me 5 weeks in total to get the raid drops for this quest:

Week 1: bosses killed: 12, Secrets of the Empire: 6
Week 2: bosses killed: 12, Secrets of the Empire: 3
Week 3: bosses killed: 12, Secrets of the Empire: 5
Week 4: bosses killed: 12, Secrets of the Empire: 5
Week 5: bosses killed: 2, Secrets of the Empire: 1

Commentaire de hims71

for the past two days i did lfr tot and i got no Secrets of the Empire whats so ever...has anybody have the same problem?

Commentaire de 292372

New Comment (7/12/14): Having now completed legendary cloaks on 5 toons, I can say with certainty that Les secrets de l'empire drop in all of ToT and from the first eight bosses of SoO. Lei Shen in Trône du tonnerre and Sha de l’orgueil in Siège d’Orgrimmar are guaranteed to drop Pierre runique des Titans or Les secrets de l'empire. (They are NOT guaranteed to drop Cachet de sagesse and Cachet de puissance according to a GM after a guildee ticketed because he didn't receive one from Sha de l’orgueil.)

Pierre runique des Titans drops from the last 2 wings of ToT and the first two wings of SoO, again, Lei Shen in Trône du tonnerre and Sha de l’orgueil in Siège d’Orgrimmar are guaranteed to drop.

Also, if you complete your Les secrets de l'empire and have already looted Lei Shen, you CAN kill him again (LFR only as far as I know) to loot Cœur du roi-tonnerre for the next quest.

Old Comment: I can't seem to find any patch notes about where the Les secrets de l'empire are dropping now, so I thought I would post to say I got drops from the LFR ToT1, LFR ToT3, LFR ToT4, and from the new LFRs this week. Hopefully this helps other stragglers like myself in where they can get them.

Commentaire de Zizzerzoop

Do we just do Random LFRs? ...and forgive me, what does TOT1, TOT2 translate to? Please be kind to us older folks with your responses! Thanks guys.

Commentaire de kurjam

I'd say at this point in the expansion, if you are like me and can't wait (and also, I got last secret from ToT first wing so all the next collectible drops we're still free), Trillium goes for about 40-60g per bar on most of servers.

And one fun fact, you can still keep receiving secrets after you've collected 20 of them, who ever wishes to keep one for some weird nostalgic memory or whatnot.

Good luck

Commentaire de kabookiejoe

The first eight bosses in Siege of Orgrimmar have a chance to drop a Sigil of Power, Sigil of Wisdom, Secrets of the Empire, or Titan Runestone in addition to their normal loot for players on the appropriate step in the legendary questline.

Commentaire de Afzal

Surprised to see that someone has yet to post the fact that this is an obvious star wars reference I am. Hmmmmmm. I mean.. The quest. - Yoda

Commentaire de cojjan89

I've been keeping track on my Main, and im still working to get the raid drops for this quest:
week 1: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 1
week 2: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 3: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 4: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 5: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 6: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 7: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 8: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 9: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 10: Bosses killed 20 , Secrets of the empire 1
week 11: Bosses killed 20 , Secrets of the empire 2
week 12: Bosses killed 11 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 13: Bosses killed 20 , Secrets of the empire 4
week 14: Bosses killed 5 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 15: Bosses killed 9 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 16: Bosses killed 15 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 17: Bosses killed 20 , Secrets of the empire 3
week 18: Bosses killed 20 , Secrets of the empire 1

And now neew week , bosses killed so far 20 Secrets of the empire 0

i have even contacted a Game master in-game about my issue, and they just told me
"you have been very unlucky just, there is no bug or anything its just about luck"

Commentaire de 1263746

Got this quest on my Twink today, and with the "Gaze of the Black Prince"-Buff, I got 14 secrets out of the 20 bosses that can drop them, which is either random luck or a vast improvement of the droprate.

Commentaire de vejer

Secrets of The Empire...Extensive search for name of the raid or raids to get started on finding the 20 drops. Finished the Trillium bars, know where location is but, what is the name of the raid?

Commentaire de Archaix

When you return the quest, Wrathion and Anduin are still playing the board game, and say:

Wrathion: Why did you make that move?
Anduin: It's a Pandaren board game. The object is for both players to win
Wrathion: That's ridiculous! Why would you even play?

Subtle, Blizzard. If you spell "subtly" like this

Commentaire de Rascal32

In order to get the legendary cape, you MUST have this quest finished by next week.

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Les secrets du premier empire

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Récupérez 20 Secrets de l’empire et 40 Barres de trillium.

	Les secrets de l'empire (20)
	Barre de trillium (40)

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Pendant deux mille ans, les mogu ont régné sur ces terres. Leur régime était si brutal que son nom n’est jamais mentionné à voix haute… Les Pandarens utilisent généralement les expressions « l’ancien royaume » ou « la première dynastie ».

Le roi-tonnerre fut son fondateur et son premier empereur. Il accumula un pouvoir faramineux sur ce qui est désormais l’île du Tonnerre.

Mais son temps est révolu, <nom>. Nous devons revendiquer une partie de son pouvoir. Rassemblez des reliques mogu pour moi au Trône du tonnerre et récoltez du trillium… J’ai un plan !

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