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Commentaire de 92izer

Peut-on obtenir la bague légendaire alors qu'on a pas encore la Carte marine draenique ?
J'aurais, si tout ce passe comme prévu, tous mes tomes mais par contre, aucune mission pour cette fichue carte marine et ce, sur deux personnages :o

Edit : Il n'est pas possible d'obtenir sa bague, on vous donnera une autre quête, mais rien qui ne donne la bague, c'est vraiment frustrant de devoir attendre cette fichue carte alors qu'on a tous les tomes.

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Commentaire de DatRandomGuy

Khadgar's serious, don't read the pictures. Just don't.

Commentaire de Lostelf

This will presumably be the 'Titan Runestone' quest of WoD as both this and the old quest requires 12 of an item and were the last quests of this style in their respective chains. Hopefully the drop chance will be slightly better though.

Commentaire de Romire

Forgetting to return your Library books? Thats a Paddlin!

Commentaire de aerchimonde

You can't get them from work orders

Commentaire de Rylonbronzebeard

Having fun isn't hard, when you've got a library card!

Commentaire de smoere

Does someone happen to know the prerequisites for this quest?

I'm asking as I'm interested in if we can collect the tomes in the first lockout, or if we need to do a few days of naval missions first.

Commentaire de larzor

Might be a reference to Pink Floyd - Another brick in the wall

As for the quest items, I'm not sure you will be able to loot them from work orders or follower missions due to how few there are, unless the droprate from bosses is low.

Commentaire de Kramilot

A non-100% drop from HFC bosses. I killed 6 bosses on normal tonight, got 2 tomes.

Commentaire de larzor

The drop rate on these are apparently much lower than before, only a few in the raid will get one per boss. Which makes sense, since if each boss dropped 1, you would almost be done after two clears.

Also, this just makes it seem even more as if Khadgar is going to go dark side.

Commentaire de Windscar

You can get 0 or 1 per tome per boss at approximately 60-65% drop rate.

A bug existed on first week where on Hellfire Assault you had the chance for 2 tomes, this has been corrected/hotfixed.

Archimonde does not guarantee a drop - it was expected that players complete this step if HFC is cleared each time in 4 weeks on average

33 tomes / 4 weeks = 8.25 tomes~ per week
62%~ drop rate.

Source: Developer 6.2 interview.

Commentaire de Herukakaya

Probably a reference to my favourite band's song Another Brick in the Wall (Part II)

We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone

Commentaire de Kamikaze28

Based on my previous endeavors with such matters, I cracked open my spreadsheet again to bring you a handy prediction table of how long it will take you to finish this collection phase.

Notice: It would seem that Blizzard has increased the drop chance of Tomes of Chaos in recent months without notice. Since it would be difficult to determine the changed drop chance with only few people doing the quest now, I resort to leaving this comment unchanged as a memorial of how things were.

Kills	Chance	Sum
33	0.00 %	0.00 %
34	0.00 %	0.00 %
35	0.00 %	0.00 %
36	0.00 %	0.00 %
37	0.00 %	0.00 %
38	0.00 %	0.00 %
39	0.00 %	0.00 %
40	0.00 %	0.00 %
41	0.00 %	0.01 %
42	0.01 %	0.01 %
43	0.02 %	0.03 %
44	0.03 %	0.06 %
45	0.06 %	0.12 %
46	0.10 %	0.23 %
47	0.17 %	0.40 %
48	0.27 %	0.66 %
49	0.40 %	1.06 %
50	0.58 %	1.64 %
51	0.80 %	2.44 %
52	1.08 %	3.52 %
53	1.40 %	4.92 %
54	1.77 %	6.68 %
55	2.17 %	8.85 %
56	2.59 %	11.44 %
57	3.02 %	14.46 %
58	3.44 %	17.91 %
59	3.84 %	21.75 %
60	4.20 %	25.95 %
61	4.50 %	30.45 %
62	4.73 %	35.18 %
63	4.89 %	40.07 %
64	4.97 %	45.03 %
65	4.97 %	50.00 %
66	4.89 %	54.89 %
67	4.75 %	59.64 %
68	4.54 %	64.18 %
69	4.29 %	68.48 %
70	4.00 %	72.48 %
71	3.69 %	76.17 %
72	3.36 %	79.52 %
73	3.02 %	82.54 %
74	2.69 %	85.23 %
75	2.37 %	87.60 %
76	2.07 %	89.66 %
77	1.78 %	91.45 %
78	1.53 %	92.97 %
79	1.29 %	94.27 %
80	1.09 %	95.35 %
81	0.91 %	96.26 %

Legend:
Kills: number of boss kills
Chance: probability that you gather 33 Tome of Chaos with exactly <Kills> number of kills.
Sum: probability that you gather 33 Tome of Chaos with <Kills> or less number of kills. This is the sum of all <Chance>-values up to the respective line

Some quick observations:

Getting all 33 Tome du Chaos in 3 fully cleared IDs (39 kills) is virtually impossible (7e-6 = 0.0007 %).
With 4 fully cleared IDs (52 kills) the chance improves dramatically to 3.52 % - still quite rare.
You will most likely need less than 87 kills (99 %) to get your Tome du Chaos (didn't fit into this comment).
More realistically, you will probably be done in 77 or less kills (90 %).
You have a 50 % chance to get your tomes within 65 kills.

In the name of tradition, I once again present the table of the dreaded ID of Fail where not a single Tome du Chaos drops. The less bosses you kill, the more likely it will be, of course:

Kills | Chance of FAIL
13 | 0.5^13 = 0.0001220703125 ≈ 0.01 %
12 | 0.5^12 = 0.000244140625 ≈ 0.02 %
11 | 0.5^11 = 0.00048828125 ≈ 0.05 %
10 | 0.5^10 = 0.0009765625 ≈ 0.10 %
9 | 0.5^9 = 0.001953125 ≈ 0.20 %
8 | 0.5^8 = 0.00390625 ≈ 0.39 %
7 | 0.5^7 = 0.0078125 ≈ 0.78 %
6 | 0.5^6 = 0.015625 ≈ 1.56 %
5 | 0.5^5 = 0.03125 ≈ 3.13 %
4 | 0.5^4 = 0.0625 = 6.25 %
3 | 0.5^3 = 0.125 = 12.5 %
2 | 0.5^2 = 0.25 = 25 %
1 | 0.5^1 = 0.5 = 50 %
0 | 0.5^0 = 1 = 100 % (surprise!)

A neat consequence of a 50 % drop chance is that the above table also shows the chance of you getting a tome from every boss you kill.

Commentaire de Sarroniran196426

SERIOUSLY BLIZZARD MUST THINK THAT WE ALL WORK IN THE GAMING INDUSTRY HAVE NO FAMILIES OR REAL JOBS TO DRAG %^&* OUT LIKE THIS ITS RIDICULOUS SOME OF US HAVE LIVES YOU HAVE TO DEDICATE 30 HRS A WEEK TO EVEN COME CLOSE TO FINISHING THIS

Commentaire de Romire

What kind of pictures we talking here Khadgar?

Commentaire de paladunno

We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control

Commentaire de Badgerrz

Of course I had to be the guy that gets a total of FIVE tomes this week, leaving me stuck on 32/33 for another 6 days...

Commentaire de exxyjj

PSA: Something I've just found out, legendary quests like this are removed from your quest log when you faction transfer. In this instance the Tome du Chaos which you collect will remain with you, but you'll need to pick up the quest again from Archimage Khadgar before you can continue it.

Commentaire de ruiz99

For LFR people, you have to do the raids from Hellbreach to The Black Gate.

Commentaire de favrebites

The turn-in for this quest is at your Shipyard.

Commentaire de corabe1638

Did they increase the drop rate on these lately? First time in HFC...first three bosses, three Tomes,

Commentaire de Tinkablink

If you have ran HFC on LFR, can you still get more tomes drops from Normal or no? It seems like it might be op, but I was curious

Commentaire de nhawdge

I just want to clarify, Can you get these from LFR and normal the same week?

Commentaire de pat33

HFC LFR =done on tuesday ---------Got the quest on friday..

Result: no tomes dropped from LFR boss ( even tought I forgot 2 boss on Hellbreach: tried to loot them but no tomes)

I also did some normal and hero on thursday that covered all boss loot :s .

Conclusion: if you did loot prior to the quest you won't get tomes in the same week.

Commentaire de Jereemias

Horrible quest! Awful and boring! But I did it in 30 seconds! You can go flying very low! Really near of the ground! If you touch the ground the orcs will start the alarm, but it's ok! Go straight to the point and take the item, the quest will buggy ( the orcs will stop the alarm)! Do the same for the second item! The cinematic will start and you will finish the quest!

Commentaire de hopilian

So I got the quest yesterday and started doing the LFR to see if I can get some tomes.. I was amazed a bit that after doing all LFRs I got 9 tomes total (I hope I'm not jinxing it). So dunno about the droprates but I am pleased for now, maybe in another 3 weeks I'll get my ring upgraded :D

Commentaire de Frosthawk

Is anyone able to confirm whether or not each boss drops more depending on difficulty? For example, a boss might drop 1 in LFR, 2 in Normal, 3 in Heroic, and 4 in Mythic or something like that.

Commentaire de colormetigger

Here's a list of the LFR raids -

Hellbreach
Halls of Blood
Bastion of Shadows
Destructor’s Rise
The Black Gate

Commentaire de macieqq

Ok so what if I clear HFC on heroic difficulty with my guild on Wednesday and then pick up the quest on Thursday. Am I going to get any tomes by doing LFR? I mean the loot is separate so theoretically it should work right?

Commentaire de Zapph

Warning:

As of the current plans, the legendary ring questline will be unavailable to start and if you aren't on the Highmaul quest or later, it will be removed from your quest log on the Legion pre-patch on July 19th, so make sure you have begun the questline from chapter II (Héritage des rois-sorciers) if you want to finish it.

Then, the whole questline will be removed on the launch of Legion on August 31st, with any rewards you have not already earned becoming unobtainable.

Commentaire de arjung

just got the quest today, 5/5 bosses dropped it so far, did they make it 100%?

Commentaire de Joramun

Since I started this quest line last night 8/8 bosses have dropped the Tome so far, feel like they may have fixed it for speed before it disappears.

Commentaire de Alphuite

Maybe I'm just very very unlucky, but after clearing all HFC LFR's and I got 0 Tomes of Chaos.

Gonna try Normal, Heroc and Mythic now.

Commentaire de Baracuda

Completed this quest on final reset with no bosses to spare!

Commentaire de nEON7

Quest (3 tomes remaining) disapeared, waiting for GM respones if it's how it should be.
They said, it can be completed if in progress....

Commentaire de Kelvor

I had the quest and was at 21 Tomes of Chaos. I faction changed and still have the books, but no longer have the quest. I've read through the comments here and looked for Khadgar at my garrison shipyard and he's there but not offering me the quest. I only have a level 2 shipyard, is that what the issue is?

I appreciate any response or comment/help.

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Pas besoin de carte de bibliothèque

Récupérez 33 Tomes du Chaos sur les boss de la Citadelle des Flammes infernales.

	Tome du Chaos (33)

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Selon toute vraisemblance, fidèle à lui-même, Gul’dan est en train de former une petite armée de démonistes auxquels nous serons bientôt confrontés. En agissant vite, nous pouvons encore endiguer la vague qui menace de déferler et ôter ce poids de nos épaules.

Quand vos compagnons d’aventure et vous-même partirez pour les profondeurs de la citadelle des Flammes infernales, récupérez les tomes du Chaos que vous pourrez trouver sur les lieutenants de Gul’dan.

Ce sont des ouvrages dangereux, ne les lisez surtout pas… et ne regardez pas les illustrations.

<Khadgar frissonne.>

SURTOUT PAS les illustrations.