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Commentaire de Dalrost

What a horrible quest !

According to me, presents have a spawn timer around 3min. I don"t know if it's independently with the numbers of presents already up.

Commentaire de Boxofbeer

https://youtu.be/aYOtAxhh6Bo

Commentaire de Twicks

Depuis le reset des quêtes journalières (17/12/2015) il n'est plus nécessaire de devoir attendre 3 minutes le temps que les cadeaux inhabituels repop ! Fini de passer 1 heure sur cette quête !

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Commentaire de Screamin

This quest is one of the four new 6.2.2 Winter Veil quests. It rewards Fournitures joviales which are redeemable at your garrison event coordinator: Izzy Sacréplouf for both Horde and Alliance.

Commentaire de jjanchan

**UPDATE - the objective Cadeau inhabituel for quest Quels cadeaux horribles ! has been hotfixed to respawn very quickly!**

This is one of the four garrison daily quests introduced for Winter Veil 2015. It rewards Fournitures joviales, used for various items. Below is a guide to earning and spending this currency.

EARNING Fournitures joviales Each holiday has 4 associated daily quests. Three of these quests reward 1 Fournitures joviales each, and one rewards 2 (for a total of 5 Fournitures joviales per day). All of the quests require a level 100 character with a level 3 garrison. All Winter's Veil quests are completed in a quest area in Frostfire Ridge, centered around roughly (45,28). Fournitures joviales are used exclusively for items sold by Izzy Sacréplouf - mostly garrison decorations. After you have acquired all 5 different Winter's Veil decorations and the toy (Commande de Cogn'Baff excavatueur), the Fournitures joviales can be used to purchase Cadeau sauvages from Izzy Sacréplouf (5 supplies each). Below is a chart outlining the quests: Quest	Objectives	Reward	Notes
Où sont nos enfants ?	Enfant draeneï	Fournitures joviales X 1	Free 5 children from cages in the quest area.
Quels cadeaux horribles !	Cadeau inhabituel	Fournitures joviales X 1	Use the supplied Bombe spirituelle and place the targeting circle over Cadeau inhabituels in the quest area to complete this.
La menace ronchonus	Ronchonus	Fournitures joviales X 1	Kill 8 Ronchonuss in the quest area.
Grognus	Grognus	Fournitures joviales X 2	Kill Grognus, a mini-boss with close to 2 million health.

SPENDING Fournitures joviales

Below are the items that can be purchased for Fournitures joviales.

Item

Cost	Notes
Boule de guirlande lumineuse emmêlée	Fournitures joviales X 5	This decoration places Christmas lights all over your garrison. These do not appear to glow or emit any light of their own, though.
Arbres importés	Fournitures joviales X 5	This decoration places many Christmas trees around your garrison, with presents around them. Note that the presents are purely decorative, and cannot be interacted with.
Petits assistants	Fournitures joviales X 5	This decoration puts pairs of Mini lanceur de boules de neiges in your garrison (I counted a total of 5 pairs, 10 total) that throw snowballs at each other periodically, and spawns Mini Ralph, a festively garbed dancing goblin. It also puts a PX-238 Winter Wondervolt machine just outside your garrison town hall that will transform your into a Little Helper. Useful for the Winter Veil achievement Petits assistants entre amis.
Tenues festives	Fournitures joviales X 5	This decoration dresses your guards in festive Christmas outfits (i.e. green or red Santa hats with or without Santa suits). It appears to be random as to how completely your guards will be dressed - some will have only Santa hats, while others will have a full Santa garb. Note that Ugly Christmas Sweaters are not part of these outfits!
Vieille boîte de décorations	Fournitures joviales X 5	This decoration places candy canes along the edges of the paths in your garrison, and within your town hall will place a few hanging mistletoe and stockings.
Cadeau sauvage	Fournitures joviales X 5	Gift that contains ONE of the following: - 300 Carburant - 300 Ressources de fief - 1000 Cristal apogide - Médaillon de la Légion - Bras gelés de héros - Élixir de l'esprit vif - Serviteur de Grognus
Commande de Cogn'Baff excavatueur	Fournitures joviales X 5	A toy that is part of the Crashin' Thrashin' Iron Armada set (collecting them all grants the achievement Armada de Fer)

Some notes about the decorations outlined above:

Each character can buy 1 decoration per day, as the four dailies for each holiday provide a total of 5 Fournitures joviales per day.

The decorations are account bound, and can be sent to your other characters. As such, you can do the dailies on 4 alts and have all 5 decorations on your main on a single day!
They can only be displayed in a level 3 garrison.
Multiple decorations can be active in your garrison simultaneously.
Right-clicking a decoration to "use" it applies the effect described above to your garrison, and consumes the item. This effectively "unlocks" that decoration for your character, and it will be applied any time you choose after that.
You can speak to Izzy Sacréplouf and select "The party's over. Get rid of these decorations, Izzy." to remove the decorations.

If you have cancelled the garrison decoration as above, speaking to Izzy again and selecting "Make my garrison ready for a Winter Veil party." will reapply all Winter Veil decorations you have unlocked.
If you have unlocked more than one decoration, the above actions (to remove or restore the decorations) will do so to ALL decorations from the specified holiday, not just selected ones.

Decorations for Winter Veil and those for Hallow's Eve are mutually exclusive - you can only have Hallow's Eve or Winter Veil decorations active at any given time, and not both simultaneously.

You can switch from Winter Veil to Hallow's Eve decorations and vice versa by speaking to Izzy - this will overwrite one with the other, although you can switch back at any time.

The currency for the decorations (enabling you to buy them) is only available during Winter's Veil. As such, these decorations can only be acquired then. However, the decorations can be applied to your garrison (after you have unlocked them) all year round!
The decorations persist in your garrison until cancelled, across more than one day, and even if you log out.

Commentaire de glassleo

I have to say this quest is extremely frustrating.

The gifts look like tiny ragdolls and spawn near or inside the satchels laying around the area. Currently the respawn rate seems really horrible. Sometimes you don't get credit for destrying them either.

However, they are targetable. This macro makes it a little easier to find them:
/tar unusual

Edit: this has now been hotfixed and the gifts respawn really fast now!

Commentaire de Niixten

Great job blizzard.... why do they never learn?

Commentaire de ZmeTeKK

It's daily quest because it takes whole day to complete it.

Commentaire de 695399

What a horrible quest! I know they're (Blizzard) incompetent morons since WoD, but is just to much.

Commentaire de Dristor

~~'What a horrible daily quest' name would fit it better.~~ Not anymore - respawn rate of unusual gifts has been increased significally, it's not an issue now.

Commentaire de Organthrone

Camp the spot to the right of where Grumpus spawns - there's two satchels close to one another - and hone your reaction time.

Commentaire de Liuk

Pls blizzard increase the speed of spawn for this quest!

Commentaire de Fizzletwig

Spent 20 minutes on this horribly designed piece of kodo dung. Just... Holy crapsticks, how did anyone look at this and say "yeah, that's fit for release"

Commentaire de 1560334

If you are doing this just for the toys or decorations for you main. you can farm the ''Merry Supplies'' on all alts and send them

Commentaire de Dimhiriel

they're gonna have to rename it, "what horrible quest"

Commentaire de DELJerkyMcAsshol

Oh look... Blizz has yet again added a quest without accounting for how many people will attempt to do it at the same time. A fix will inevitably come but... why not skip the whole frustration bit and just make spawns abundant to begin with?

Commentaire de Hynjenyero

Some small yellow items will appear near bags, I've submitted a screenshot. They are like little skulls. You have to be fast enough to throw your Bombe spirituelle onto it.

First tip : Put the bomb on key 1, locate and be near a spawn location of on of those gifts, then press 1: if it doesn't appear, just move to cancel the channel spell and press 1 again - if it appears you'll be almost the first one to destroy the gift.

Second tip : If you plan to throw bombs without even looking if there's a gift or not, you can even throw almost 2 bombs in a row : while channeling the first bomb, press 1 again to be prepared for the second bomb (after the first one has been thrown), and then you'll have to wait 5s for the next two bombs.

- There's actually plenty of people right now, be patient.
- It works on party group, so always join a party.
- Doesn't work on raid group (if you're trying to jump to another realm).
- If you throw the bomb to a pvp player, it will activate your pvp flag.

Good luck!

Commentaire de Spicywiener

How can they not foresee that something on a roughly 2 min spawn timer that's only destroyable by ONE person will cause problems when people are obviously going to flood the questing area. A hotfix is inevitable until then you can farm the easier quests on your alts and just send the gifts over to your main since they are BoA and save yourselves the blood pressure and eventual stroke.

Commentaire de HobDawgh

Small spammable macro to make it a little bit easier:
/tar Unusual Gift
/stopmacro
/script SetRaidTarget("target",8)
/use spirit bomb

It will target the quest objective and mark it and use the bomb.

Commentaire de WeazelGames

Takes exactly 2 minutes for a gift to spawn.
What I did to save time, was open the stopwatch, time a preset exploding (has some visible fireworks animation)
and hit the bomb just before the the clock hit 2 minutes and vuwala.

Commentaire de FaolanHart

Blizz has trolled us once again
Fa la la la la, la la la la
I had to group up with some friends
Fa la la la la, la la la la.
We all stood there for hours
Fa la la la la, la la la la.
Even with our macro powers
Fa la la la la, la la la la.
We're all getting really frustrated
Fa la la la la, la la la la.
No holiday quest will be this hated
Fa la la la la, la la la laaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Commentaire de makis28

brutal , terrible , horrible quest... what is wrong with blizz ? FIRE the quest team lead !

Commentaire de Trionek

Respawn on those is exactly 5 minutes. And yes, I counted..... :(

Commentaire de Xirev

A tip is to ignore this quest and do the other quests on alts and send over the currency since they're account bound.

Commentaire de Kdtrey

The fact that Blizzard still makes these kinds of mistakes. Also the mistakes with the re-selling of the Savage Gifts. But hey, it has only been 11 years. Understandable.

Commentaire de Ozzayel

So they hotfixed the refunding of the savage gifts, have they hotfixed this HORRIBLE quest?

Commentaire de Tydfil

to hell with this quest, 2 hours one gift destroyed, have got better things to do blizz

Commentaire de NullX

Get into groups and spread as this quest is really horrible. They spawn in front of the brown gift bags. I recommend you to camp one till you see the present get destroyed then move to another bag and wait there till you see another present get destroyed. Repeat for 1000times and maybe you and your group will get lucky.

Edit: Saw a gift that looked like a skull of a deer or something similar. Rudolf? Also saw a teddy bear.
Edit 2: Seems to have a 2 min spawn timer.

Commentaire de filletr0n

They should make the area neutral for pvp, not only this quest is hard to complete, u also have to worry about not getting your arse kicked by the opposing faction. Isn't xmas a time of peace, forgiveness and understanding?

Commentaire de aspasito

At the current spawn rate, leveling a fresh alt to 90 and to do another winter veil quest with them instead of trying to finish this one may be faster.

Commentaire de Danyi

Until Blizzard improves the spawn rate, here's how to efficiently get this done:

- Group up with 4 friends or random people in the area, or find or create a group in the LFG tool (don't be in a raid or the quest won't complete).
- Leave the PvP for another day, everyone just wants to complete the quests and be gone. Turning it into a PvP zone will just slow it down for everyone.
- Pick a spot with some satchels close by (they spawn next to them) and just stand there, keeping a close eye on all.
- Keybind the Spirit Bomb to an easily accessible key and click it, meaning, you can see the green target circle.
- As soon as you see a tiny doll thingie, toss your bomb and hope that you're fast enough.
- Have your party members camp other spots. close enough so you can help complete each other's quest.

That should speed it up. It will be a lot faster than running around looking for them on your own.

Commentaire de Naztheras

Wish Blizzard showed finesse and speed at fixing mount bug at this but oh no, it'd be against "time is money" principle.

Commentaire de Kimaell

Can confirm its shared by the party, so party up with ppl to get it way way faster.
according to 16.12.15 - 19:32 server time, the spawn rates are terrible at best... but blizz will probably fix that in a hotfix tommorrow most likely.

Commentaire de Agramon

Blizzard is aware of the respawn issues and will hotfix it soon.
Source: https://twitter.com/BlizzardCS/status/677197281666465792

Commentaire de Boxofbeer

Do this quest with group. Really, you will get the quest reseted next day if you dont want to join a group.
What Horrible Presents! https://youtu.be/aYOtAxhh6Bo

Commentaire de Vindictae

Try it with lag. It's impossible.

Commentaire de Hrau

Please be aware that one of the toys is a scarecrow sticking out of the top of the bags. Mine wasn't glowing, but it looked entirely suspect. So I blew it to bits and it counted for one.

Commentaire de OrbitStorm

While it's a relief that Blizzard is addressing the issue, it's disappointing that they've had an entire year to get this quest right and still managed to bungle it. Unbelievable. (Cue fanboi down-votes).

Commentaire de 1453115

Common sense should have told them this wasn't going to work? Was this not tested before it went live? Did no one care?

Commentaire de brightyuk

Looks like they may have hotfixed this now. Items are spawning in 2's and 3's and much more quickly.

Commentaire de grafspe806

Its glitched on some servers as of this moment no presents spawning , and other servers are normal

Commentaire de Tillion

After trying this quest for nearly an hour earlier today and another one, well, now, I have to say it needs to be renamed!

What (a) horrible quest!

Commentaire de Darmonevil

I did this on 10 toons today and by the last one a Christmas miracle happened. Blizz must have increased the spawn rates of the presents by a huge amount. I would hit 3 presents and they would respawn before the CD on my grenade!

Commentaire de Sadoth

Considering how long it takes Goku to charge up this thing, I'm glad Bombe spirituelle is on just a 5 sec cooldown.

Commentaire de Laichzeit

quest has been fixed. They now spawn extremely fast and in batches of two, sometimes three. @US servers. I do not know about EU but I assume they fixed it worldwide.

Commentaire de Unredeemed

The gifts have names in yellow. They show up around the burlap sacks lying on the ground. If you don't see them, it means that they are bugged for the moment. It make a take a bit, but they'll be back. Don't get discouraged.

Commentaire de Monae

This quest as of now has been hot fixed!

Commentaire de Draginfairie

Finished! Took me an hour but I finished. Maybe this is Blizz's nod to Black Friday?

Commentaire de Chadrell

Just adding that Blizzard applied a sneaky hotfix and it is now possible to complete this quest. The easiest place to stand is around the rock where Grumpus sits. There are two groups of three right next to each other.

Commentaire de Henderman

Create a macro using this script and bind it to a key.

Click on the NPC to open their dialogue box and spam the button to pick up all four Winter Veil grumpy quests. Spam it again to turn them all in.

But wait, there's more! Also opens your Cadeau sauvage if it is in your bags.

/script SelectGossipAvailableQuest(1)
/script AcceptQuest()
/script SelectGossipActiveQuest(1)
/script GetQuestReward()
/use savage gift

Commentaire de Keldesh

Decorations can only be seen in level 3 Garrisons. You can request Izzy Sacréplouf to remove them, change which holiday decorations appear, or if you want them back you can ask her to redecorate your Garrison. Decorations can be added back to your Garrison at any time (even outside the holiday), and they will remain in your Garrison until you ask Izzy Sacréplouf to remove them. So if you want pumpkins all year round you can! If you want candy canes and Winter Veil trees during the summer go for it!

Holiday Event:

Feast of Winter Veil
December 16 - January 2

Event Coordinator:

Izzy Sacréplouf

During Hallow's End and the Feast of Winter Veil, locals may drop in and request your aid against some of the denizens of Draenor. They'll surely be willing to part with some festive supplies!

Winter Veil Decorations:

These will add Winter Veil themed decorations to your level 3 garrison. Each costs decoration 5 Fournitures joviales each.

Item	Description	Details
Boule de guirlande lumineuse emmêlée	"A festive display of lights and wreaths."	Places wreaths and lights throughout your garrison.
Arbres importés	"A festive collection of trees and presents."	Adds Winter Veil trees with presents throughout your garrison. At this time it is unknown if Father Winter will deliver presents to your garrison on Dec 25. These are nothing more than decorations.
Petits assistants	"Winter Veil helpers and a Winter Wondervolt."	This adds pairs of Mini lanceur de boules de neiges to your garrison who have snowball fights if you're Horde or Mini assistants if you are Alliance, a Fabulovolt PX-238 Hiver machine for easier access to change into a little helper, and the dancing goblin, Mini Ralph, who you can chat with if Horde or you can chat with Erik who is getting presents ready on the Alliance side.
Tenues festives	"Dress your garrison guards for the season."	Puts your guards in Winter hats, with and without the Winter Clothing (colors dependent upon your faction) and Pull bariolé du Voile d'hiver (this is dependent on which race you have as guards). This will also put the title of "Jolly" or "Merry" on some of those who have the outfits on (e.g., Jolly Sentinel, Merry Guard, etc. ). Out of Alliance Gnome Guards do not. This also adds Bonhomme de neige to your garrison. You can chat with him, but he does not respond to emotes.
Vieille boîte de décorations	"A collection of candy canes, mistletoe and stockings."	Hangs stockings throughout your garrison, lines the paths with candy canes, and decks the halls with mistletoe.

Win ter Reve ler do not seem to be a part of any of the decorations, but will disappear if you have any Winter Veil decorations and ask Izzy Sacréplouf to remove them. Not sure if these are tied into the decorations or are just seasonal guests.

Decorations FAQ:

A. Do they disappear after the holiday?
Q. No they do not. They will remain in your garrison until you ask Izzy Sacréplouf to remove them.

@Muffinus: Permanent, and you can turn your garrison into Halloween any time of year.

A. If I have Izzy Sacréplouf remove them are they gone for good, and have to rebuy them?
Q. No, you just need to ask Izzy Sacréplouf to redecorate when you want them back.

A. Are these BOP?
Q. No, they are account bound. So you can do the dailies and buy them on an alt then send them to another character (on your account) to use in their garrison. This means if you have 5 level 100's with level 3 garrisons you could get all the decorations for one character in one day. Remember though that the actually item you buy is consumed upon use. So you can only use it to decorate 1 garrison. You will need to buy more if you want that decoration on any of your other garrison.

A. Can I use them on a level 2 garrison?
Q. Yes, but you will not see the decorations until your garrison is upgraded to level 3.

A. Can I have individual items turned off?
Q. No, once you add the decoration you can only ask for all that season's decorations to be turned off or on.

A. Can I have a decoration removed completely from my garrison and keep the rest?
Q. It does not appear to be an option.

A. Can I have both Hallow's End and Winter Veil decorations up in my garrison at the same time?
Q. No, you cannot have both seasons at the same time. You can only have one, the other, or none.

A. Can I have all 5 decorations from one holiday displaying in my garrison?
Q. Yes, you can have all 5 decorations up in your garrison.

A. Can I buy the decorations at any time or just during the holiday?
Q. You can buy them at anytime if you have the currency for them. However, you can only earn the currency during the respected holiday season.

A. If I don't use the decoration before the holiday ends does it disappear?
Q. No, the decoration item does not require a holiday. Thus it does not expire once the holiday is over.

A. Do I have to get the decorations for each of my garrisons or if I add them to one they will show up in all?
Q. You need to get the decorations for each garrison you would like to have them in.

Winter Veil Items:

Other items that Izzy Sacréplouf sells for Fournitures joviales.

Item	Description	Details
Commande de Cogn'Baff excavatueur	"Part of the "Iron Armada" set."	Grants you the ability to summon and control your Crashin' Thrashin' Killdozer battle pet. This pet is part of the Armada de Fer achievement.
Cadeau sauvage	A gift you can open.	Contains one of the following: Bras gelés de héros Élixir de l'esprit vif Médaillon de la Légion Serviteur de Grognus 300 Carburant 300 Ressources de fief 1000 Cristal apogide

Items FAQ:

A. Can I buy these instead of decorations, or do I need to buy the decorations first?
Q. You are not required to buy the decorations if you do not want to.

A. How much do these items cost?
Q. Cadeau sauvage and Commande de Cogn'Baff excavatueur each cost 5 Fournitures joviales.

A. Can I buy multiple Cadeau sauvage?
Q. Yes you can! Remember unlike the decorations these are BoP.

Winter Veil Dailies:

Dailies requires you to be level 100 and in a level 3 Garrison, and takes place in Frostfire Ridge near Bloodmail Slag Mines (46, 28).

Dailies	Fournitures joviales	Details
Grognus	x2	Locate and kill Grognus. Anyone who does damage to him will get credit for the kill.
La menace ronchonus	x1	Kill 8 Ronchonuss. They have a fairly quick spawn, and will be guarding the children and presents.
Quels cadeaux horribles !	x1	Use the Bombe spirituelle,in your bag, giving you area target to toss the Bombe spirituelle on 5 Cadeau inhabituels. There is a min range for these, so stand a bit back away from them, and you can continue to target the one in the same location each time it spawns.
Où sont nos enfants ?	x1	Locate and unlock cages that kidnapped children are in. Need to rescue 6 children, and cages will free multiple children.

Dailies FAQ:

Q. Where do the quest take place?
A. Winter Veil Garrison quests take place in Frost Ridge. Just west of the Bloodmaul Slag Mines flight path.

Q. Can I only earn the Fournitures joviales during Winter Veil?
A. Yes. The quest givers will only visit your level 3 garrison during the Winter Veil holiday.

Q. What level do I have to be to get the dailies?
A. You need to be level 100 to get the dailies.

Q. What level does my garrison have to be to get the dailies?
A. Your garrison needs to be level 3 for the quest giver to show up in your garrison.

Q. Who is the quest giver?
A. Winter Veil daily quest givers are Almie (A) or Zézette (H).

Q. Where is the quest giver located?
A. During their holiday season, you will be able to find them next to Izzy Sacréplouf in your garrison.

Q. How many dailies are there?
A. There are 4 total dailies.

Q. How many Fournitures joviales can I earn each day?
A. You can earn a total of 5 for each level 100 character you have with a level 3 garrison.

Q. Can I go to my friend's level 3 garrison and get the quests?
A. You can only get the quests if your character has a level 3 garrison.

A. How many Fournitures joviales can I earn on one character during the entire season?
Q. Each day of Winter Veil you can earn 5 Fournitures joviales per level 100 character. Winter Veil is 18 days long (2015-2016). So a total of 90 Fournitures joviales can be earned (note that one quest may have been bugged on the first day preventing players from completing that quest) per character.

Holiday Supplies Pages

Hallow's End | Winter Veil

Commentaire de 1366198

This took me a whole 4 minutes to do even with 15 or so people running around doing it also. I have no idea what you guys are crying about!

Commentaire de Monthy

They are gone now. It's over for this year.Januari 3,,,,they wait for summertime starts.:)

Commentaire de talli63

Garrison must be level 3 to access and complete this daily.

Liens

Quels cadeaux horribles !

Détruire 5 Cadeaux inhabituels.

	Cadeaux inhabituels détruits (5)

Objet fourni :

	Bombe spirituelle (1)

Description

Ce méchant de Grognus a amassé une collection de cadeaux bizarres. Il essaie délibérément de traumatiser les enfants du monde entier en leur donnant les pires cadeaux imaginables.

Prenez cette bombe spirituelle, lancez-la sur des cadeaux inhabituels de Grognus et débarrassez-nous-en une bonne fois pour toutes !

On est ensembles sur ce coup, <nom>. Maintenant, allez sauver l’esprit des fêtes !

Achèvement

Récompenses

Vous recevrez :

	Fournitures joviales

Gains

Lors de l'achèvement de cette quête vous gagnerez :

Vérifiez si vous l'avez déjà terminé en tapant :

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(39668))

Guides

Winter Veil