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Commentaire de lethargy

New Nitro Boost backfire as of 4.0.3a

Commentaire de ShadeolTheFox

Since the new addition of Nitro Boosts being attached to your belt instead of your boots, they have retained their old backfire of launching you into the air. This is a secondary backfire that could happen as well.

I first saw this in Isle of Conquest while attempting to Nitro Boost to the central flag. It will burn your health for ~15% a second for 8 seconds. This means it will burn about 120% of your health. It seems Resilience may reduce this damage, seeing as I only took about 90% health damage.

Commentaire de 618367

This does in total 15% X 8s = 120% of your health in damage, reduced by resilience, you're dead if there are people hitting you and you don't have bubble/iceblock/something.

Needs to be confirmed but I think this only procs in BGs and can't proc in the world.

Commentaire de 702125

So...

Is it time to replace engineering for RBGs?

Commentaire de Bonkbonk

I think this drawback is a bit overkill and not very engineer like.

It would be more fun/annoying if the nitroboost backfire caused your movement keys to be inverted, slowing down your speed instead of increasing it or just not work at all. I just want something more engineer-ish instead of this "YOU TAKE LOADS OF DAMAGE LOLZ" backfire.

Commentaire de FaustinaDraenor

This is absolutely ridiculous and totally unfair on Engineers. A profession bonus that sometimes kills you, are you ****ing serious? What if Alchemist potions sometimes killed you? Bandages sometimes gave DoT? There would be mass QQ. I hope they remove this or at least nerf the damage it does, unbelievably high and totally unfair.

Commentaire de Sersi

Engineering also has the most potential reward of any of the professions, so it makes sense that it has the highest potential risk as well.. Rocket boosts are unequaled in battlegrounds and dungeons. They allow you to escape mechanics and fights that other professions just can't do. You also have several other tinkers at your disposal if you so choose.

No other profession has "perks" that can hurt you. The JC-only gems or Lightweave Embroidery for example don't have any downside, only benefits.

Not to mention you can't use a lot of the engineer-only stuff in Arena or Rated Battlegrounds, rocket boosts included. But I digress...

This backfire killed me in AB from full hp through 1800 resil and soul link. Not fun.

Commentaire de m3x1can007

I was shocked, as I just returned and I was in a WSG, 1v3ing a DK Warlock and a Rogue, I had them all in kite range and used m y DEMO PORTAL, and was attempting to rocket boots away, and got owned hard, I looked into my combat log and found this, it hurts >.<

Commentaire de Loof42

Does anyone have any numbers on how big the chance of this triggering is?
I've been using the nitro boosts a lot, but I've never gotten this, only the back-fire when you fly up in the air, which is trivial, since you can right-click the parachute off.

Commentaire de sandreid87

Charged a Mage in WSG, who was all alone on his mount. I had about 10% hp myself. and I suddenly died by apparently nothing, while he was still stunned from the Charge. I then took a look at the combat log and found out that I had taken 15k damage from "Rocket Fuel Leak".
Was pretty confused of what had happened, although I could guess it probably had something to do with Engineering. I was right.

Yet another nerf to Engineering. This is really crippling your chances of surviving the usage of any engineering gadget. I've been pretty unlucky lately (I think), having about 30-40% malfunction chance of my Nitro Boost. I get shot up in the air and about half the time that happens, the auto-parachute doesn't pop. If that is the case, then I can't use my own parachute-enchant on my cloak either. So I end up dying from the fall damage. Even if I survive, somehow, land on top of +3 ppl, who I can't beat or escape from (or atleast not without Nitro Boost, oh the irony!).

Commentaire de Shadowlyger

According to the Wowpedia page, this backfire has been removed. Can anyone confirm this?

Commentaire de TomBombadil

Have been using my rocket boosts A LOT since cataclysm was released - never had a fuel leak. In perhaps over 300 uses.

Today I went to do Zul Aman and as soon as I entered I used my belt and then I noticed I'm taking heavy damage. Took me by surprise and I died. Some time later, still in Zul Aman, I used them again and got the leak again - managed to survive this time (soul harvest). So 2 fuel leaks in perhaps 6 uses in Zul Aman. And I have had none before.

Commentaire de 326601

If you look through the comments, One pattern that has emerged is that this seems to only happen in BG's and....Zul'aman.

I have used my rocket boots hundreds of times in Cataclysm raids and never had this backfire occur, but multiple times in Zul'aman. Seems to be restricted to only certain content.

Commentaire de Scabies

I know blizzard likes to dish out senseless damage in the name of making things challenging... but seriously?

I've had belts launch me into the air for Nefarian (you take Shadow of Cowardice or something for being off the ground) and belts fuze me to the ground when the lava rises for the same encounter... It ceases to be fun or quirky in certain situations.

Commentaire de dingbot1

Looks like it's happening in Cata raids in 4.1.0, now...

Thanks Blizz

Commentaire de 611596

Happened to me, in the middle of a pull in a boost... NOT a good debuff to get then!

Commentaire de 180981

Question, can this debuff be cleared by Cloak of Shadows? If so rogue's have a bit of utility they can use in raids with this, such as Atramedes, running from fire if Sprint is on CD.

Commentaire de 844373

The effect of this does get affected by Mastery - As an enhance shaman with 17.47 Mastery (43% increased Fire, Frost, and Nature damage), this debuff kills me unless either:

A: I use Shamanistic Rage, Berserking, AND spam Healing Surge (each Healing Surge hits me for around 7-8k w/o critting) till the 8 seconds are up (I still die or end up with about 3k health). I have 112k health unbuffed, and w/o Shamanistic Rage the debuff is hitting me for around 17-18k per tick - around 10-12k with Shamanistic Rage up.

B: Have someone heal me through the entire duration.

The backfire from this can happen anywhere - I've had it happen in Heroic Sethekk Halls upon entry, when I get aggro and need to gtfo from Chimaeron, upon entry in raids (BoT, BWD, etc.), ZA, ZG, Orgrimmar, etc.

Edit: fixing spelling + fail link to enhance mastery

Commentaire de 832103

So jewelcrafters can have better gems that everyone else but engineers aren't allowed to have a reliable speed boost. Nice.

Commentaire de mukunda

I get fuel leaks all the time, still worth it in raids though. :D

Commentaire de Hashupa

EDIT: This used to be entirely WAY too overpowered, but it seems that at some point during 5.4, Blizzard nerfed this debuff to do a nearly unnoticeable amount of damage. It has gotten no where NEAR killing me and it also seems that it can't even take out 50% of my health. Good move, blizz!

Commentaire de 568092

The fuel leak is overkill.

Commentaire de 771190

The sense of Dilbert-esque unfairness is at least half the appeal of the profession.

Commentaire de TheTacomaster

I don't know why Blizzard suddenly decided to pull such a huge about-face with engineering's functional use in raids and parties. In WotLK, it was encouraging to see the tinkers introduced, as little as they did for actual gameplay. Now, we're getting ridiculous amounts of punishment for simply using a speed boost.

:'c

Commentaire de jelito

I just wanted to use nitro on alysrazor to speedup grabbing 3 feathers for flying phase, and instead i got this fuel leak which killed me, i was like wtf O.O ?
This backfire is too big to be realiable in raids im not gonna use nitro anymore

Commentaire de Azaram

It hasn't killed me. When I'm at full health and get the leak, it takes me down to about 10% on my hunter. Has the damage been changed?

Commentaire de Deadfunk

Just a note for Death Knights. You can AMS through this debuff and negate 90% of the dmg. Take the first tick in damage, then use anti-magic shell for the rest of it.

Commentaire de Nikeyeia

Words can't explain how much I hate this debuff.
Overall, from the first time I got it (Some 6 months back), I've gotten it about 20% of the times I used my boost. Really? I've wiped several times at raidbosses because I forgot about the debuff.
Now, I understand we got stuff like , and that buff grants us an average of around ~80 in our primary stat (Equal to JC/LW/Whatever), so this is like an added bonus. But seriously? It's fine that it gives a backfire, but back when it sent you flying, that was kind of fun too. It didn't kill you. It was suprising, but forced you to think in a new way, and very fast: "What do I do now? Oh! I went out of combat! Flight form." But a debuff that directely kills you? I mean, what the hell?
Optional effects in a game is ment to be fun and interesting. And this debuff is neither fun nor interesting. If they gave it a new backfire instead (I see lots of good suggestions on this page), that would be great. Heck, even if they reduced the damage, that would be awesome. Hotfixing from 120% to 80%? Pff. It kills you anyways.

Commentaire de 638360

If you're doing molten core, be aware that Malédiction de Shazzrah increases the damage that this deals. Alot.
Yes, I found that out the hard way.

Commentaire de 852794

Rocket boost damage should be nerfed, especially if the chance of fail is so high. Or nerf the chance to fail. 80% of hp gone in 8 seconds, so it basically takes a couple of hits then to kill me. Would rather have them kill me than give a kb to some fail pvper who just got lucky my nitro boosts are POS. I have had these fail more than actually work for me.

Commentaire de Professori

3800 resilience and this #$%^ still kills me? Why is it able to crit? WHY?

Anyone know if it has increased chance to occur on specific boss fights? Or is it just me that I see it more often on fire heavy fights such as sartharion and Jan'Alai?

Commentaire de 914948

Does Cloak of shadows remove this thing?

Commentaire de 909136

I do not believe that this debuff will happen to characters 80 and below. I have been using them around once every five minutes while farming BC rep and I have never seen the rocket fuel leak. Just the one that sends you flying around half the time.

Commentaire de Goats

Was this nerfed? It doesn't seem to be anywhere near as deadly before 4.3.
My warlock has around 150k health and this was ticking for 7k.

Commentaire de 918095

Just got killed by the damn proc in Old Hillsbrad...pulled all the mobs near barracks, sped up to get more upstairs, got distracting shot debuff off dang hunter...and voila, 205k HP didnt help 1 bit :( 1st time i saw that proc too... /cry

Commentaire de 687131

To Warlocks: Soul Link does work with the damage from this. So you'll end up only losing 60% of your max health, assuming you're glyphed. Throw in a cookie and a couple of Drain Lifes and you'll be as good as new. If you're out of combat, just Soul Harvest.

To Destro Locks: Nether Ward/Protection also helps protect you from its damage.

To All: Do believe fire resist helps reduce damage from this. When I was using Nether Ward, the Nether Protection buff popped up saying it was reducing fire damage done to me and the Fuel Leak was the only thing I was taking damage from.

Commentaire de Kilroy7456

..did they increase the chance of this happening lately, or has my luck just been terrible? i'm getting really sick of being killed by it, especially when it makes me fail a quest. why the hell is something like this necessary when these aren't even f***ing useable in the only places where they'd really be complained about?

Commentaire de thejake420

I don't know what you guys are complaining about. The fuel leak is a freaking awesome "oops" proc. It's survivable by simply using the same CD as you would if some warlock just unloaded on you, but since it's only a small percentage of the time, it leaves you the option to roll the dice. You get the huge 250% speed boost (which you CAN combine with Living Action Potion for uninterrupted zoooooom right through those giant "bottleneck on the bridge" situations in a BG that is otherwise keeping people from chasing down that enemy flag carrier), but at a (rare but always present) risk of kaboom. I get about 30 dead enemy flag carriers to every 1 rocket fuel leak, so yeah. I'll take my chances. :D

Ok, can't use in RBGs. Sad, but totally understandable. Rocket Boosts are WAY OP, despite previously having been allowed in arena. (Which is specifically why they're no longer allowed.)

I've absolutely dominated as a clothie FC in WSG/TP since I started using these. On my mage for example (have multiple eng's), simply get to tunnel, rocket boots up tunnel when dismounted, hit invisibility a couple seconds ahead of arriving in flag room, invisibly grab flag, blink back OUT of flag room, and presto - speed boost is still available for you on the way out. Use your imagination with your character's racials/professions/abilities/consumables to improve the benefit.

Of course, my experience may be a bit better than yours as I also use other less common (but easily obtainable) items and consumables such as water walking pots, living action potions (immunity to stuns), swiftness potions (run speed). Rocket boosts are simply another tool in the badass Batman-esque arsenal of consumables and profession toys (I still use dense stone statues in my OhSnap! macros, etc. Every possible advantage. Sounds cheap, but the fact is I completely OWN in BGs, largely due to the goodies I bring with me, rocket boosts being one of them.)

As for mitigating the effect itself, Ice Block works (need to cancel it afterwards or wait, but it does end the effect). I kinda find that fun. Also, if you have Power Auras, simply set a big red skull or something in the middle of your screen when it procs the fuel leak so that you may respond accordingly.

Commentaire de tarc

I find it kind of amusing actually, and if you want to give a class-like skill to someone outside that class (i.e. sprint to non-rogues), I think it is fine to balance it with a bit of a drawback...and a VERY occasional drawback at that. It's hit me 2-3 times in the last 6 months, just ticked for ~24,500 while running thru Molten Core.

Commentaire de ruvi12

The reason i dont like this backfire is becouse it just gives you % on using rocket boots to die! I either use rockets boots to chase, or to run away as a last resource, however using these when im below 50% it just means i'll die.
The old backfire (being launched into the air) could actualy be usefull, you could stealth/invis in mid air and disapear, or you can use your Goblin Glider to fly away. It would still be a backfire forcing you to use a cooldown, but not just a straight up % chance to die.

Commentaire de Uuneya

I agree with other posters here, make something funny/entertaining happen, not just "lolz ur ded dood" There are so many other possibilities here! You could:

be violently propelled backwards 30 yards and knocked down
have only one of your thrusters fire and deplete all their fuel at once, causing you to zip around and do crazy eights at warp speed for 5 seconds
faceplant and have the rockets smush you into the ground, preventing you from getting up for a few seconds. Bonus: anyone who walks into your area instantly bursts into flame (the rockets are still firing).
if you *MUST* do damage, make it like the old goblin engeineering items so that everyone in 10 yards takes 30% HP as fire damage, caster included

Because there's one very, very serious flaw with this bug - not everyone has a defensive cooldown that can handle it. On my rogue it's trivial (I can CoS before it even breaks stealth), on my DK and spriest it's manageable, but on my hunter it often kills me. Deterrence can only do so much, and if I'm actually fighting someone or something that presents a challenge this becomes a big problem. Blizz already banned nitro boosts in arenas and rated BGs, this is just overkill.

Commentaire de Kilroy7456

I've been getting this more than I've been getting the speed boost lately. There is no reason for this, engineers should not be killed just because they are engineers. If Blizzard is going to give us stupid punishments for minor things (ESPECIALLY minor since this stuff is still unusable anywhere it might be considered "unfair") at least make them more amusing than "lol u r ded!" The rocket belt is freaking worthless to me because this is happening so much lately. I should not have to fear death just because I chose a certain profession.

Commentaire de AoBman05

Seems to do much less damage to you now as of today, I got this debuff twice and I lost only about 2.75% of my max health each tick (or about 24% total health).

Bug or not, this is very pleasing.

Commentaire de 898889

This is really annoying and its been happening more frequently as of yet. Im a ilv523 assass rogue and it was ticking at 46,957. Cloak counters it but still...come on, Blizz. Whats next? Wind sheer on the goblin glider? Falling to your demise?

Commentaire de Leechesx

As of 26/11/13 on EU servers, rocket fuel leak is damaging me for roughly 13-15% of my max HP as apposed to 50%+

Can anyone else confirm this? Possible stealth nerf?

Commentaire de Lightofday

The Leak has been happening very often lately. I have had 2 occurrences in the last few days where it happened twice in a row. One of those times caused me to die during a raid encounter with my guild.

The failure (rocket fuel leak) rate is simply too high. Anyone else getting tired of this?

Commentaire de Whoisthiscook

Oh, the times I've had to run back after a wipe and this happens. Even a Spirit Beast heal couldn't save me, combined with Deterrence (unglyphed)

Commentaire de Dehik

Just to clarify, this debuff has been (indirectly) nerfed significantly when it happens in BGs and the uninstanced outdoor world, only taking about 10% of your max health during the whole debuff.

HOWEVER, in PvE dungeons and raids, the debuff still takes 80% of your health overall, so be mindful about using it in an instance or a raid.

I believe the reason behind this is because resilience is not in effect during PvE instances.

Commentaire de BobbitWormJoe

I've created a WeakAura that will alert your party if you spring a rocket fuel link, so they don't think you pulled trash while running back after a death or something. It will send the message

I've sprung a Fuite de carburant de fusée!

to the appropriate chat depending upon your instance/group type (or just say it if you are not in a group at all).

WeakAuras 2 import string below:

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Commentaire de DKong27

Goblin engineering. It's almost rarely fatal.

Commentaire de tchapin

As a Death Knight, you can counter the rocket fuel leak with Anti-Magic Shell, so I made an easy to use macro for it:

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=8 6, Anti-Magic Shell

Basically, I click it on it to activate my belt in slot 6, and then I have an 8 second window where I can double use the same macro action to cast AMS and protect myself in case the ability backfires.

Seems to work pretty well so far. I just have to make sure that Anti-Magic Shell is up before using my nitro boost.

Liens Export WeakAuras

Fuite de carburant de fusée

Fuite de carburant de fusée
Instantanée

Inflige un montant de dégâts de Feu égal à 10% de votre maximum de points de vie toutes les secondes.

Buff

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Durée

8 secondes

École

Feu

Mécanique

n/d

Type de dissipation

n/d

Catégorie GCD

n/d

Coût

Aucun

Portée

0 mètres (Soi-même)

Incantation

Instantanée

Recharge

n/d

GCD

0 secondes

Effet

Apply Aura: [Mod Periodic Damage %]
Valeur : 10% à toutes les 1 seconde
Multiplicateur JcJ : 1

Marqueurs

L'aura est un effet négatif
Supprimer les déclenchements du lanceur
N'engage pas la cible
Ignorer les modificateurs du lanceur
Supprimer les déclenchements de l'arme
Ignorer les modificateurs de dégâts du lanceur

Fuite de carburant de fusée

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