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Commentaire de 212003

Engineering... the most 'lulz' profession in WoW.

There are 2 different specalizations: Goblin Eng. and Gnome Eng. You can change at will with the Book "Soothsaying for Dummies" found in Tanaris.

There are many perks in engineering, mini (BoE) pets, Wormhole Generator (free northrend port), and ammo for guns/bows are just a few of them.

If you are looking for an easy way to make gold, then engineering isn't for you. Levelling engineering from 1-450 can cost thousands of gold, and it will take a very long time to earn that gold back when you do get to max level.

But, if you have gold pouring out of your pockets, and are looking to have fun, you should DEFINITELY choose engineering! It has very fun items like Rocket boots, Parachute cloak, and, to top it off, a bank and reagent vendor every hour!

All in all, engineering + want for gold = bad!

Engineering + want of fun = good!

Commentaire de guntitan

Engineers can make money. We have a mount we can sell, a few companion pets, some mats that other classes need, we can farm our own motes, make and sell end game arrows and bullets, and the list can go on. Just need to find your niche in the market.

Commentaire de Mastrcapn

Engineering is the 'fun' profession in the game. It offers several marked benefits (Significant haste, free slow fall, FREAKING WRIST-ROCKETS, etc), two Engineer-only mounts, a craftable motorcycle, a portable mailbox, portals across Northrend and the old world, snowball machines, rocket guns, and a myriad of other fun-stuffs (grenades, anyone?).

The problem with this is money: You need it. A lot of it. Leveling Engineering could be compared to being stabbed in the neck with a solid gold knife: It sucks, but everyone will know "Hey, this guy is worth something!". Engineering has a relatively small niche in the market. Most Engineer items are Bind on Pickup or require engineering to do, save for some vanity pets and ammunition.

Engineering is not a profession that you will want to start out with on your character. Better to level an 80 with a money-making skill before sojourning into the world of Engineering.

:) Have fun with it when you do, because it is the bomb.

(See what I did there?)

Commentaire de LegalDanish

Arguably the best profession to combine with Engineering is Mining. Engineering requires a LOT of ore, many gems, rocks, etc., that mining can all provide. Occasionally you may end up needing ingredients from other sources, but for the most part, mining is most complementary.

Commentaire de besaba

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this:
Engineering: Winner of the 2010 PVP Player's Choice Award

Commentaire de ffcloud2000

Quest's to start specializations
Gnome Engineering (Horde)
Goblin Engineering (Horde)

Gnome Engineering (Alliance)
Goblin Engineering (Alliance)

Commentaire de 401313

im noticing that some of the BC trainers won't allow me to train things from them, such as the deathblow x11 goggles from k. lee smallfry, im a gnomish engineer and was curious as to why and if anyone else is having problems with that

Commentaire de 631272

I have a question. I was wondering how I de-engineer something. I am a 450 eng. But am only lvl 69. I know it doesn't matter until I get to level 80 but I would like to know if I have missed something. I have got no spells for eng in my book except for eng, and gnomish eng. Any help would be grateful.

Commentaire de Varkyrion

Engineering is something that you should choose to have some fun.
For Example: There is bombs, polymorphs, mind control AND A FREAKEN ROCKET ENCHANT!

Commentaire de itgrowls

Despite all the hubub about how costly this is, It never cost me thousands of gold as my engineer was also a miner. It's very easy to get a ton of ore around azeroth, outland, northrend make parts until you are max. most of the time those parts can be used to make smaller items in between the parts to compensate for any holes in the point gaining. I've been playing since launch but only started engineering two years into the game. Leveled engineering two other times on two other types of characters the same way once on a caster and once on a pally tank. Both times it was just as easy. Be sure and gather as much ore as possible. Iron, mithril, and thorium are needed the most in order to get to the 300 mark. Even though it didn't cost me a dime...err a silver to completely level these, it is NOT a moneymaker however it does help with buffs that mimic enchantments and tinkering that mimic certain "on use" trinkets for an extra boost to casting, tanking, or hunter dps.

Commentaire de 470923

Hypothetically. If im a goblin engineer and i have all the schematics i can for goblin. if i switched to gnomish i would loose all my goblin schematics?

Commentaire de 581309

Only one schematic for lvl 525 Engineers, hopping for another mount and some more BoE guns to put on the AH at 85.

Commentaire de puppysnuff

Hypothetically. If im a goblin engineer and i have all the schematics i can for goblin. if i switched to gnomish i would loose all my goblin schematics?

No, you do not.

Commentaire de 117271

Engineers get a variety of new toys in Cataclysm including:

Cogwheel and Hydraulic pumps ("super" red/red/blue gems that give ~3x the stats of endgame gems (think dragon's eyes))
New Scopes
New craft-able epic ranged weapons such as guns, and finally, bows/crossbows!
Various new tinkers including a priest-type bubble, Increased effects of potions (like the alchemist trinkets), and a cloning devise! (Mirror Image)
New non-combat pets
Small combat pets
A feast cooking-type barbecue that feeds your raid

(source: http://www.worldofraids.com/topic/17523-cataclysm-beta-engineering-preview/)

Commentaire de 571648

Nothing says Engineering like a 20% failure rate!

Commentaire de Zereketh

Hey look buddy, I'm an Engineer, that means I solve problems.

Commentaire de 482401

yh, well it is hard to come up with a good idea for engineering

nothing says engineering more then a 20% fail rate.

Commentaire de 618815

Engineering tinkers, as of patch 4.0.1, currently stack with enchants on the same item slot (eg hyperspeed acelerators with +28 spellpower on glove enchant, nitro boosts with feet enchants) making the profession really good in its current state.

Commentaire de Dahork

new engineering mount for cataclysm please!

Commentaire de Cryptorchild

Here's what's bugging me, maybe someone from the Cata beta can explain. How in the name of hell are we expected to skill this now? Looking at the skill gain levels, there is a gap from 475 to 490, with no item I can tell being able to fill the gap. Sorta pointless to have some awesome goggles to aim for, when it looks currently impossible to even reach that point.

Commentaire de Blagga

It looks like now certain Engineering recipes can give you multiple skill-up points at a time.

Commentaire de 282292

is engineering mainly used for casting classes? i'm a lvl 288 hunter goblin engineer, and feeling pretty left out when it comes to goggles and stuff. very little things buff agility i notice. should i bother with engineering with my hunter, or get it on my priest i'm starting?

also, even if you have mining, is engineering really that expensive out of pocket? i'm using engineering on my first character, and the price out of pocket doesn't seem that bad. i love having the fun, but worry about being constantly broke, especially since engineering seems geared toward casters and not my hunter.

Commentaire de Silveringast

@LeminaAusa

(eg hyperspeed acelerators with +28 spellpower on glove enchant, nitro boosts with feet enchants)

Nitro boost is now belt tinker slot but stacks with belt buckle...

Commentaire de Blagga

Good news, everyone. As of the last hotfix, you can now keep learning new tinkers at max Engineering:

All eight of the Engineering discoveries are now able to be learned through crafting the Overpowered Chicken Splitter at max-level Engineering.

Commentaire de 748784

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/compare?items=10058:10064:10057:10062:10499;21853:21852:21855:21851:23762;8284:8289:8283:8287:4368;3076:13008:7051:10501 there is some engineer gears for Rp.

Commentaire de 777881

I am curious about levelling engineering. I currently am 525/525 Blacksmithing and Mining. Character is a paladin that is primarily retribution spec now, but I began as a tank and still tank often doing random heroics for a faster que time.
1. Does anyone else have exp with that combination on a pally? If so, how was your experience?
2. Has anyone seen a list compiled of the total items needed to level up? I'm currently stocking up on ore / mats before I drop mining.
3. I haven't seen the changes coming up in the next patch, is it being nerfed?
4. Is it still a terrible money maker, as previous posters have stated.

Answers to these questions and any other comments would be greatly appreciated!

Commentaire de Izzyasha

As much as everyone seemed geared for engineering to be amazing alot of stuff got cut before being released.... Like the amazing epic bows and guns we could make... we cant make anything epic aside from our goggles. And the ability to itemized our trinkets... gone like the wind.... Wether these will be implemented is to be seen. Not to mention ive yet to see a single engineering mob in the game... Remember in wrath when they implemented the skinning into us looking for scrap parts to use, Not a single Mob in This expansion has been "skinnable" this expansion except for oldworld mobs. That seemed wasted.

While i know this is a gimmick profession. Thats suppose to be fun? It wasnt fun at all No fun gimmick items other then a new pet ? and some goggles to look more attractive. Im sorry no amount of shiny goggles will make my undead attractive. :P other then that a barbeque that has a use and a cardboard assassin that seems to fail at its job.. Need a name change to Cardboard meatshield. err ...<.<. Anyways i cant speak how viable this post will be in future patches but so far engineering got the shaft.

The goggles are nice, But unless the cogs or goggles scale... with patches.. they will be long forgotten about and render the profession less than a gimmick.

Commentaire de 535474

Engineering is really not much fore plate wearers, is it? I know there are holy paladin items in there, but for everybody else, at least 85, it's pretty useless, isn't it? That's to say Retarding, Protection Paladin, Warriors, DKs.

Commentaire de 793900

even though we (eng) didnt get a ton of new toys in cata the bio-optic killshades are pretty high end for this tier of content (4.0.6), and the cogwheel "gems" are just awesome! that alone makes it worth sticking with for me, also we have the new anti gravity thing ( which is sadly still broken i do believe)

Commentaire de 632461

Engineering is, by far, the best profession for any kind of competitive play (PvP, PvE) and has the most tools for your average player. This is offset by the fact that you can't make almost *any* money with it. Aside from the bow & gun (which are incredibly expensive), any items you craft that can be sold to other players are the items that are used for leveling engineering, so it's basically impossible to profit off of those items because there's usually an abundance of them on the auction house. The Gnomish X-Ray Scope, for example, sold for 10 gold on Kil'Jaeden last time I checked.

That said, there's nothing wrong with taking engineering on every one of your characters. The Synapse Springs are an amazing DPS perk, and the tank version is equally good. The goggles are pre-heroic BiS for every class, as you can choose which 2 stats you would like to put in there thanks to cogwheels. With patch 4.0.6, resilience cogwheels were added, so you can even make a 2nd pair for PvP (you lose some resilience compared to the 365 PvP helm, but I know for example rogues' and hunters' mastery is garbage, so by using goggles with resilience + crit cogwheels you actually gain a significant amount of DPS by using them). As far as utility goes, you can get one of the many, many belt enchants and a parachute on your cloak. There's endless little trinkets and random gadgets that can do basically anything, too. Then there's the grenades, which can boost your DPS and incapacitate targets for 5 seconds or even freeze them in place (which counts for shatter for all you mages).

And there's a hell of a lot more useful things than the ones I linked. At the end of the day, you can't go wrong if you take engineering on every single character you have. Get a different profession to make money.

Commentaire de 804359

I have various toons with level 525 tailor, leatherworker as well as blacksmithing. So I was wondering why those professions are able to craft ilvl 359 gear where as the engineering profession is only able to make ilvl 346? We all use chaos orbs, so what gives?

Commentaire de Thaag

Who else is scratching their heads when they realize the two top weapons we can craft require an orb but are only i346? Are our skills going to be as obsolete as they were when raiding started in LK? Maybe moreso, now that ammo is no longer needed? Right now my engineers are nothing more than walking sources of Jeeves/repair bots. I feel like a mage.

Commentaire de pkarsai

The membership renewal system is no longer in the game. Please remove the obsolete information from the introduction.

Commentaire de 336235

I'm surprised more people aren't mentioning the portals. If you're not a mage, engineering's 3 portals are how you don't wait to farm(barring getting turned into a chicken). When you meet a mage somewhere, and it takes you 20min in flying and it took them 3sec... portals become the reason engineering rocks.

Commentaire de eluneaurora

I spent several hundred gold on this, but I could have avoided completely it by using my other professions (JC'ing/Mining being the big ones). In this case Money or Time = Skill. You will not find much profit from this profession, but the multitude of very amazing toys makes up for it.

Outlands is by far the worst in my opinion for leveling the profession. Classic and Northrend are amazingly easy now.

Commentaire de Syconder

Why has it not been said that this is nearly perfect for hunters. Being able to make some of the best guns for leveling, and being able to make the only enchants for ranged weapons, as well as ammo back in the good ol' days. along with all of the awesomeness that comes with everything, makes it perfect for hunters.

Commentaire de 835707

I am surprised it doesn't say that you can 'deconstruct' mechanical enemies and get extra loot. (mostly engineering supplies aswell grey trash)

Commentaire de xspillcanvas913

For those of you who want to level engineering fast, and have the money to do so, look up the cataclysm engineering guide on a nifty site called WoW-professions (no, this is not advertisement).

It provides a detailed step-by-step guide into leveling your engineering the whole way! I used it and it only took me a couple days (mainly because I couldn't find any Fel Iron Ore/Bar on the AH cuz my server fails. even then, Fel Iron is difficult to come by because no one really needs it anyways, and hence the price has skyrocketed).

It should really take a few hours of dedication to stroll from 1-525. I invested close to 10000g in total speed leveling this, and I must say it's worth it. Be sure to stop by Tanaris and pick up Goblin Engineering, or Gnome Engineering (not sure where to get it, didn't care for it) and the Destructeur de monde personnels get you quiet a few gold on the AH!

Good luck from Nazjatar.

Commentaire de 837755

You can only learn the 359 goggles that goes with your class. Check the quick facts box at the top of the page to each goggles to know which class can make them. Even tho they share the same stats its just different names for different classes.

Commentaire de Merador

You will need to renew your membership to the Gnomish/Goblin engineers every 2 weeks by paying the insignificant 2 gold to your recruiter in Gadgetzan. In exchange for that you will receive a gift that has a chance to contain the schematics for a rare pet specific to your specialization.

You don't have to renew your membership any longer, if you want to lern the schematics for your specialization.

Both Schematics, for the Petit fumant or Bombinette, are now acquired in Gnomeregan:
The Schéma : Bombinette is dropped by Mekgénieur Thermojoncteur.
The Schéma : Petit fumant is dropped by Tenue de maintien de l'ordre, Annulateur d'Arcane X-21 or Faucheur de foule 9-60.

Commentaire de StealthyAssassin

Me+ Engineering= Better PvP Experience.

Commentaire de 881233

How do you change from goblin engineering to gnomish engineering?

Commentaire de 897864

i like engineering but its a pain to find all the items you need for all of the cool items

Commentaire de staron

My blacksmith can craft 359 items with recipes bought right off the vendors. My tailor the same. My engineer sits with 15 chaos orbs and not to do with them. You do get a 359 head piece that noone else gets, similar to alchemy making a 359 trinket, but you cannot sell anything. There is a 365 gun recipe which requires grinding Hyjal for weeks to get. My hunter has landed the 378 crossbow doing much fewer runs in FL than it would take my engineer to get the marks of the world tree to make an inferior 365 weapon. Engineers should be able to make BOE 359 trinkets or helmets with recipes right off the vendors to balance them with tailoring, blacksmithing, leatherworking.

Commentaire de Frahaleah

Does the engineering enchants override the Enchanter's enchants?

Commentaire de 911813

Love the helicopter and it's been awesome to fly around in I really like it. Can't wait to get my engineering to 450-500 so I can fly around in the souped-up helicopter...

Engineers lead the way!

Commentaire de 894301

Ah, engineering! The profession for making some of the most useless items in the game. I say useless because the materials needed to make a lot of items in order to level up engineering make it almost impossible to keep engineering on par with your character's level ie craft items useable against MOBs and enemy players around your level. So you craft it then don't need it and you can't sell it on AH because nobody can use it and other engineers rarely need most of what other engineers create unless it's a part for making something else. You can only sell it to a vendor for far less than the time and money you spent in making it.

You definitely need a guild or a higher level character with access to gold and mats to do Engineering properly. Otherwise you're just making a lot stuff you don't need and nobody else can use just to level up your engineering and some of the schematics require ridiculous amounts of different mats requiring several professions and drops some of them rare. This means a lot of money spent at the AH and a lot of time spent farming for mats and gold which to do either will push your character's exp past the point of needing the item.

There are also sizable gaps between schematics you can learn from a trainer sometimes 15-20 points from one skill to the next; plus there is the beauty of finally learning something and it's a yellow or green from the getgo so you can't level pretty far with it. Then there are those schematics that being able to learn them or make them are completely out of your level ability.

My favorite is the Schéma : Petit dragon en arcanite which requires level 50 and Engineering 300 but to get the schematics you need Générateur de tunnel spatiotemporel : Norfendre which requires 415 Engineering and thus level 65 to do when the item is of little use to you for PVE, PVP, or leveling up your engineering! Of course you could buy it on the AH for several hundred gold if you can spare it which seems the only reason to get it - to make some money from this practically profitless profession. And from what I understand this item got nerfed so it doesn't level with you and so its only useful to you for a short span of time. Not really worth all the effort to make unless you are someone with access to gobs of cash and mats.

Blizz seems afraid of this profession so they water it down with lackluster performance or worse with a high probability of failure which damages the user. Then they nerf items of the functions they were designed for: Bombe en saronite and Charge thermique globale de sapeur are both designed to create siege damage but in WinterGrasp a completely siege environment, neither of these bombs will work! Blizz nerfed their use there because they didn't want people/engineers taking advantage of these items ie using them as they were intended!

Don't get me wrong there are some cool stuff only engineers can make (but can't make a profit off) but too often it's of little use even for yourself and it costs a lot of time and money. On the surface, engineering sounds cool especially for PVP what with all the bombs and stuff but for all the PVP I do I rarely if ever see engineering tools/weapons being used. It's like a number of things on WOW that sound cool in concept but really are often disappointingly underwhelming in reality like the Mouton explosif which waddles about and maybe explodes but presently is bugged and won't explode unless attacked.

My advice? This profession is only reasonably efficient for character leveling, dungeon raiding, PVP in lower levels if you have a lot of money, mats, and/or a wellstocked guild/higher level character preferably an engineer as well and/or miner. If you try engineering on your lonesome, it's going to be tough and if you want to keep it level with your character's level it will take a long time.

My suggestion to Blizzard? Make engineering more practical and put more fun into it - actual fun.

Commentaire de 911813

Engineering is for the true American, look at our past and you'll see that we share a time honored tradition with the Goblins and Gnomes of Azeroth...

I'll take engineering over chemistry, alchemy, botany or any other trade skill any day!
Go Engineer something my goblin allies!

For the Horde!

Commentaire de wigglemonster

I'm kind of disappointed that nothing new came out for engineering in the 4.3 patch. Other professions have new things to learn. Jewlcrafting, leather working, etc.

I hope to see new craftables from engineering.

Commentaire de newhon63

I need to know if there a place to get what each disipline of Engineering is able to make. Sort of like how they have to compare what an Aldor gets compared to being Scryer. My toon has engineering and I am at that crossroads, I like explosives but there are things on the Gnome side that I like too.

Commentaire de 601169

Hey i've got a goblin hunter who is a goblin eng. anyone know of any good looking eng gear i can morph?

Commentaire de sixxis

Can anyone let me know if there is still a way for Horde to renew a gnomish membership at all please? I can't seem to find the trainer.

SiXXiS

Commentaire de 940869

By far the most useful function of engineering is the ability to summons repair-bots. This can evade a "technical" wipe very easily.

Commentaire de Drakhma

this proffesion requirs alot of work , and if you dont have a miner then itll cost you alot of gold too. Good proof tho
Bombs, fireworks, mounts, trinkets, goggles, guns, bow, crossbow, prets, theres ALOT to ENG

Commentaire de Jollygood

People have commented on the expenses of engineering. They aren't lying. If you don't mine, you spend a lot of gold buying things from miners. If you do mine, you use up all your stock, so you are not making gold from selling the stuff. Either way, Engineering is more a labor of love and a great source of entertainment. If you are a PvP player, this profession offers you some surprises for the other players. Low level players out questing will love target dummies. They do work. Bombs are just fun. I had a low level 'toon (now gone) who made a bunch of bombs and I spent a half hour laughing and throwing bombs at level 1 mobs in Durotar.

If you are a new player and only have one or two characters, I would not recommend it. New players would be better served as gatherers, so they can make gold and level faster via the exp points from herbalism. Plus, gatherers can find crafters, getting the items they want by providing the materials and tipping the crafter well.

If you are not a new player and have a guild and/or alts, make sure you have some miners supporting you at low levels (all that rock and stone is near-worthless on the AH, but great for leveling you through low level engineering). At max level, it's a good idea to have an alchemist to do transmutes.

My main's the third character I created. She's a warlock engineer. These are the things that have been very useful:

Transport devices. I can get to Winterspring and Area 52. Kinda like being a poor man's mage.
Parachute on cloak. Get knocked in the air? Get a soft landing.
Bombs. Depending on how the current release has nerfed 'locks and my level of inattention at 2AM, bombs are great for when I run out of mana and am low on health. Heck. Bombs are fun. Period.
Jeeves. OMFG. I love Jeeves. I don't raid a lot, but people love me when we've wiped a few times and need repairs.
Moll-E: Bags full? No problem. Ship it to an alt in the middle of the Uldum desert.
Headgear: As a low level gnome, she was a little killer with her OP headgear.
Weird Trinkets: Mechanical dragonlings, etc. They only are good for a couple of levels, but they're fun. So there.
General funtimes: The animations on some of these things is vastly entertaining. I love the goblin barbeque and squander them all the time in guild runs just because they're fun. Other animations while making stuff are cool (Electirifed ether sometimes knocks my 'lock on her butt.) Engineering puts the "fun" part in the concept of "game" Transporter accidents. 'nuff said.

Now, on to making money. You can make money. If you have a low level JC alt, you can make delicate copper wire. An engineer can make fused wiring. This actually sells well on the AH. Pets make money, too. If you are totally OCD, you can collect materials to make the motorcycles. I rarely see them on the AH and they tend to go for the low five figures. There are also items that are enhancements. I don't really pay attention to all my schematics, but last night, someone asked for an engineer in trade chat. I linked my list and wound up getting a nice tip and a /hug for making Flintlocke's Woodchucker. I suspect high level engineers are a little rare, so if you are inclined to spam trade chat with your wares, you may get tips. (I tend not to do that, because I'm constantly rep grinding.)

Hope this helps if you are mulling over Engineering as a choice. Of course, your mileage may vary.

--More

After MoP came out, we now have goblin gliders, which are utterly amazing in BGs, especially Netherstorm, AB, and AV. You cannot fly, but you can glide for a long distance. Also, there are goggles that are supposed to increase the drop rate on gatherables while mining and herbing. It may have been nerfed, but initially, it was a substantial increase in nodes.

---And still more
The Pandaria expansion's been good to engineers. For a while the trinkets were a good source of income. Now, with the Timeless Isle gear, not so much. However, The mount and pets are selling on the auction house. All the popular kids ride around on golems now.

Commentaire de 940869

You have to wonder; What's it going to be like in MoP? Are we going to get sub-ancient weapons, or firebombs to light entire forests on fire?

Commentaire de 760942

Hey look, buddy. I'm an engineer, that means I solve problems.
Not problems like 'What is beauty?' because that would fall within the purview of your conundrums of philosophy.
I solve practical problems.

Commentaire de 978101

I hope we get some cool new stuff in MoP! :)

Commentaire de 1019794

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Have a nice life! Thanks for your time.

Commentaire de QuickBASIC

If you're looking at the comments on this recipe, plan, or quest you might be a collector or completionist.
This is a compiled list of all of the cross-faction recipes in the game.

Most (not all) Cuisine recipes on the Alliance side are sold by Kendor Kabonka. The Horde do not have a corresponding NPC, so if you are an Alliance character wanting to create an alt on the opposite side to obtain the recipes for your main, unfortunately you'll have to have a level appropriate character to do the quests to obtain some of these recipes.

All of the recipes except one (Plans : Jambières de guerre orques) can be traded cross-faction on the neutral AH.

Alliance Only Recipes

Recette : Côtes de sanglier à la bière

Schéma : Feu d'artifice bleu

Patron : Cape de dragonnet noir

Patron : Chemise jaune vif

Item	Quest / Vendor

Forge

Plans : Gantelets en écailles dorées	Les origines de la forge
Plans : Cuirasse de Forgefer	Le rééquipement des Carmines

Cuisine
Côtes de sanglier à la bière / Kendor Kabonka
Recette : Boudin	Les boudins de Thelsamar / Kendor Kabonka
Recette : Soupe de palourdes	Kriggon Talsone / Heldan Chantetrombe
Recette : Gombo de crocilisque	Les devoirs de l'apprenti / Kendor Kabonka
Recette : Steak de crocilisque	Chasse aux crocilisques / Kendor Kabonka
Recette : Tourte d'araignée fondante	Tourtes au crabe de la Pénombre / Kendor Kabonka
Recette : Tourte au foie de broche-tripes	La tourte au foie de broche-tripes / Kendor Kabonka
Recette : Délice de furie du loch	Khara Eau-profonde
Recette : Soupe aux ailerons de murloc	Criée aux poissons / Kendor Kabonka
Recette : Goulash des Carmines	Goulash des Carmines / Kendor Kabonka
Recette : Kébab de loup assaisonné	Kébab de loup assaisonné / Kendor Kabonka
Recette : Délicieux steak de lion	Un problème très coûteux
Recette : Ragoût de la marche de l'Ouest	Le ragoût de la marche de l'Ouest / Kendor Kabonka

Ingénierie
Coupebraquet Tournepignon / Darian Singh

Travail du cuir
Clyde Ranthal
Patron : Tunique de dragonnet noir	Amy Davenport
Patron : Gants d'herboriste	Harlown Tisselombre
Patron : Gilet Lueur-de-lune	Le gilet Lueur-de-lune
Patron : Ceinture en peau de raptor	Androd Fadran
Patron : Gants en cuir de dragonnet rouge	Wenna Barbe-de-soie

Couture
Danielle Vivaiguille

Horde Only Recipes

Item	Quest / Vendor

Alchimie
Recette : Potion de soins décolorée	Cœurs sauvages

Forge
Plans : Bottes barbares en fer	Piétinés (Blacksmithing 140)
Plans : Cuirasse barbare en fer	Remparts barbares (Blacksmithing 140)
Plans : Gants barbares en fer	Les joies des Omosh (Blacksmithing 140)
Plans : Casque barbare en fer	Les cornes de Frénésie (Blacksmithing 140)
Plans : Epaulières barbares en fer	Épaulettes en fer (Blacksmithing 140)
Plans : Jambières de guerre orques*	Les vieilles voies

Cuisine
Recette : Aile de chauve-souris croustillante	Abigail Shiel
Recette : Queue de lézard croquante	Tari'qa
Recette : Brouet de rat	Brouet de rat
Recette : Ragoût épais de crocilisque	Ogg'marr
Recette : Viande de kodo rôtie	Wunna Sombre-crin
Recette : Surprise du scorpide	Grimtak / Lilly

Enchantement
Formule : Enchantement de plastron (Mana inférieur)	Kithas

Ingénierie
Schéma : Feu d'artifice rouge	Sovik

Travail du cuir
Patron : Sac en cuir de kodo	Sac en cuir de kodo (Leatherworking 10)
Patron : Harnais en peau de raptor	Tunkk

* The plan for Orcish War Leggings does not exist in the game, but is instead directly taught by the questgiver.
(Technically this is the only recipe that cannot be learned by the opposite faction because all other recipes/plans can be traded in the neutral AH.)

Commentaire de Quotas

An engineering trainer I've found that is not listed here is Twizwick Sprocketgrind, a level 30 NPC at 61, 32 in Mulgore. He is only reachable by going through the Venture Company Mine cave south entrance, navigating through the cave across a rope bridge, and exiting the cave to find the NPC on a cliff north of its top-most exit. The middle exit ends at a sheer cliff face.

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