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Commentaire de 6984

This spell is very powerful, and is one of the best ones mages are receiving in the BC. Coupled with Frostbite, it can create deadly results.

Note the long 30 yard range, and instant cast, as well as x3 dam against Frozen (frosbitten) targets. Although it is mana intensive, this will have many uses, including finishing move, snaring, pulling, etc.

Commentaire de 6984

I meant snare when used with Frostbite, because of the Freezing effect :P
This is like a much better version of the Rank 1 Frostbolt.

Commentaire de 6995

wait i dont get it, on the worldofwarcraft.com site....it says it has a 1.5second cast, and here it says instant cast...which is it lol?

Commentaire de Maed

The 64th Session of the Azerothian Council for the Protection of Mages hereby declares the following rules regarding the discussion of the newly created offensive spell, Ice Lance:

Rule 1: You shall not talk about Ice Lance.
Rule 2: You shall NOT talk about Ice Lance.
Rule 3: The spell "Ice Lance" shall not be discussed in any capacity, except in the case where the topic of discussion is how much it sucks.
Rule 4: The spell commonly referred to as "Ice Lance" does not actually exist, but is simply a figment of your imagination.
Rule 5: You SHALL NOT TALK about Ice Lance.

The above stated rules will go into effect immediately upon approval by all council members. We believe that these guidelines will benefit mages as a whole on a large scale and that all mages should voice their support for these guidelines.

Commentaire de Sware

As my main is a 60 mage, I will be Ice spec while leveling in the Burning Crusade. Clearly in this video, (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4072790601721521266), It shows that Ice Lance takes +Spell damage into account and is more powerful then you might think.

The video shows it as instant cast, I bet you will get a 1.5 cast time in a mage nerf. Although 1.5 isn't bad either. :)

Commentaire de 9631

OK, lets clear some stuff up, Now lets say that we have a mage fairly good equipped mainly from Molten Core and maybe with some +spell damage items from Zul Gurub and Ruins of Ahn Quiraj.
So lets say that he has +300 spell damage. Now that means that this spell (I shall not mention the name Maed as you in the name of the council instructed) can do up to say ~500 dmg. Now against a frozen target (ie frost nova, frostbite) it does triple that. Meaning like 1500 damage....NON CRIT. So when this crits (+50% chance to crit against frozen targets...) you can probably 1 hit stuff, including (with the current stamina standards) players.

So yeah as maed said....it SUCKS!!!!

Commentaire de Morphid

Yes I agree, This spell is horrible, lowsy damage and too equally powered with other classes! Lets just accept it and not make any complaints to blizzard about it plz. The blizzard employee's work hard and are handsome, smart people who have enough things to do.

Commentaire de Necronosis

Just to put my comment in here:

Ive got myself a lvl 67 Frost Mage atm and this is a very nice spell :D

Ofc it is only decent when the target is frozen. Low mana cost, crits for 1.5k upwards (ive seen bigger crits nearing 2k and over)

So overall imo this is a great spell.. Probs not that good in raids or what have you but for grinding, it helps a lot :P

Commentaire de 15757

Got Icelance'd for 2200 today. GG. Totally overpowered.

Commentaire de Bodil

Use frost nova and then spam ice lance and u will do some insane damage

Commentaire de Kryz

This will be a nice alternative to Frostbolt/Fireblast to finish off a frozen target. Much better DPM.

Commentaire de 24457

If you intend to maximize your Ice Lance damage you need talents that increase your Crit chance, Crit Damage and Base Damage. While you're pimping out Ice Lance, you can easily pimp out Arcane Explosion at the same time so that you can FF as well as AOE for crazy damage.

Here's a perfect Ice Lance and AE build:
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/talent=Ri0VfMzzLIzbZZVVGco0xob

With Ice Lance and AE... allways go for more crit/penetration/hit instead of more +spell damage.

Commentaire de thewrs

Seems like a good spell to use when destroying totems as using your wand can often mess with your cast timing.

Commentaire de 11655

Unfortunately, as of patch 2.0.10 Frost Nova will now break on first crit, regardless. This was to prevent Ice Lance spamming.

Commentaire de helloeh

An excellent use of Ice Lance is to use it immediately following an Frostbolt against a frozen target. Ice Lance travels faster than Frostbolt, so if you are at sufficient range you can hit your target with both spells before the snare is broken. I've done this while just outside melee range, but it's much easier when you back up further.

I'm an ice-specced mage, with my increased chance to crit against a frozen target, I almost always crit with both my Frostbolt and my Ice Lance. Once a target is frozen (either by Frost Nova or as a result of Frostbite), I back up if necessary and start casting a Frostbolt. As the Frostbolt finishes casting I immediately cast Ice Lance, and the target is almost always hit for around 4000: ~2500 for my Frostbolt crit, and ~1500 for an Ice Lance crit against a frozen target.

If you hesitate too long, the Frostbolt will have broken the snare and the Ice Lance will not get the bonus to damage nor the bonus chance to crit, which reduces its damage considerably. At longer range, this timing is more forgiving - it seems like an Ice Lance will still get the bonuses for a fraction of a second after the frozen effect graphics have left the target's feet.

Awesome spell.

Commentaire de 39340

From WoWwiki.com - http://www.wowwiki.com/Frost_Nova,
the frost nova is said to break upon any criticals in patch 2.0.10. However, if you cast a frostbolt then right when it casts, you can spam an ice lance onto enemy before the frostbolt hits the frozen target, thus, allowing it to have a double crit. (PS: This would probably be a glitch that Blizzard can't fix unless changing the original idea or applying a 2.5 second cooldown to ice lance when frostbolt is casted).

One thing on the Ice Lance is it doesn't really uses the spell equation. I have +510 frost damage (~140 from pure frost spell), 40% of that is still 200 damage on top of my tooltip 170-199 at level 66 (i believe). Thus the damage should be ~370 per hit, ~1000 on frozen, and critical should be 2k.

However, the number that I get is about ~275 per hit, ~800 on frozen and 1.5k on frozen crit. I'm guessing that they use a different equation for ice lance. I'd say the number is roughly 20% from normal spell damage and 30% from pure frost spell damage.

Regardless, it's still a good skill. With my +510 frost dmg, a double crit of frostbolt/ice lance is ~2k & 1.5k, which if you had Arcane Power & Trinket, it will go up to 4-5k damage in 2 second, then if you POM and cast another bolt with fireblast, you're looking at up to 6~7k dmg under 5 second.

Commentaire de 28582

the general rule of 3.5 seconds=100% +damage is flawed now, as blizzard has started using it as a way to buff/nerf skills. The "Damage Coefficient" as its called, each spell varies now. There is no hard and fast rule that says just because a spell has a casting time of 3.5 seconds it will get 100% damage. A warlocks dots are a good example, CoA is instant cast, but it receives 160%. Curse of Doom is another example, it gets a whopping 400%.

Commentaire de 55827

If you just use Frost Nova, or better yet, if you can freeze the target with your Frostbolt, the damage will be tripled. Best used against rogues who only rely on melee.

Commentaire de Serathis

Is there any site (maybe even offical) that how much of the +spelldmg different spells get?

Commentaire de Mortenz

Ice lance affects Winters chill.

Commentaire de 52282

frost nova - ice lance - cold snap - frost nova - ice lance - cone of cold - fire blast
deadly?

Commentaire de saetia

Damage is calculated when you cast it, not when it hits the target. FYI.

Commentaire de 88528

Wow this is really imba, it critted 1500 on me x(

Commentaire de 93054

1 question : does arctic reach increase the range of ice lance by 3/6 yards ?

Commentaire de 87278

some things which i havent seen being said yet (but i didnt read all so sorry if i am repeating someone)....

Use it to put a warrior into combat before he can charge (charge has 28 yd range), and also one of the biggest things i dont see people doing very often is....spamming it on an unprotected target who has no way of fighting spell pushback. If someones casting frostbolt at you, spam this while charging behind them to push it back long enough for you to get behind them and cancel their cast. Also works well with warlocks using immolate (apart from des locks)

Commentaire de 137870

I think this is great spell because:
normal damage ~ 180
with bonus damage ( let's say that we have 800 bonus damage - instant spell gets 42% bonus ~ 336 in this case), so together it's ~ 516
when we use it against frozen target it does triple damage, so it's ~ 1548
at this point it's the strongest instant spell of all, and this isn't even critical....which is ~ 3096
and this all for 150 mana...

Commentaire de 140714

a guy in my guild said his hit 2.4k

Commentaire de glaglablarg

Do Ice Lance get 3x damage when you cast it on a target that's affected by Freezing Trap?

Commentaire de 151433

dude i kill close range classes so hard (war, paly, rogue... any people who play there class badly) just frost nova/ice lance x2, elemental frost nova/icelancex2, frost grenade/ice lance x2

and alot of palies disagree in game when i mention (oh i can just stop movement impairing effects) or (ill just heal through it) counter spell/arcane torrent and spellsteal own!

Commentaire de 165543

does it have a cooldown?if it had no cooldown it would be the best mage spell ever cuz u could finish off ur enemy in seconds by reapeating the same spell

Commentaire de 164904

i'd suggest wen ur target is 20% hp u should start spamming this with ur life but u gatta freeze'em so u can hurt'em for triple da damage. and use WE to freeze after ur frost nova or reverse and keep spamming it

Commentaire de 110512

There is still a damn good spell. If you are frost your CD on Frost Nova is not that long so you can do it alot. The Spell dous around 800-1000 dmg when not frozen in lvl 70 and around 2k with PvP gear and 1,5k with PvE gear I think.

Commentaire de 89922

yes frost grenades are a freezing effect, and do cause the ice lance dmg to be tripled, and giving the mage the shatter effect. Makes engineering frost mages pretty cool.

someone said this earlier, but it's also very important to realize that damage is calculated on cast, where as effects go away based on dmg taken, so while the frostbolt is in the air, the icelance can be cast to also crit, I used to do this exact same thing with fireblast LONG before BC was even thought of.

and for the ppl complaining about this being "overpowered"... shut up, please... yes it does a fair sum of dmg, but ONLY UNDER VERY CONTROLLED SITUATIONS... yes sometimes the mage gets extremely lucky and the freeze stays, or two frost mages manage to gang up on someone and time things right and they both get frostbolt+icelance combos off on the same freeze... but these are unlikely scenarios.

HOWEVER, all this said, this is for BC, in WotLK, there will be a talent that has a 10% chance to make the target "count as frozen", though not actually held in place. It procs from ANY FROST DAMAGE, so ice lance can proc it, making spamming ice lance while running diagonally (or jump kiting... for those that understand how) very powerful. I have killed fairly elite mobs with only icelance just in BC, since it costs such little amounts of mana, if you just cast it once every 5-6 seconds, the mob you are kiting won't leave because you're not hurting it, and you get a mana regen tick as if you were not casting... basically negating almost the entire mana cost of the spell.

The effect of the WotLK talent last for 4 seconds, but mind you, it won't break under crits, and that's still 2-4 ice lances, depending on your spell haste (since spell haste can bring GCD to 1 sec now) and your timing, and latency... (I have under 20ms latency at almost all times, helps with spellcasting tremendously) so... do the math... think running around in BGs spamming rank 1 frostbolt (for the chill) and icelance might be useful? :-P

Commentaire de 64436

Very good for stacking Winter's Chill so that enemies have trouble dispelling your sheeps, roots and snares. Also useful for stopping a warrior being able to charge you.

Commentaire de 241152

The damage coeffecient does not get better with each rank, and so rank 3 of frost lance is basically the same as rank 1, it all depends on how much +spell power you have.

That said, this spell if great to use right after casting frostbolt on a frost nova'd target. Because both spells will reach the target at about the same time, they both get the bonuses of hitting a frozen target, even if the frost nova broke on contact with the frostbolt. This is caused by a slight bug, depending on how much latency you have.

Commentaire de thistledown

I'm going to assume that Fingers of Frost procs triple the damage for Ice Lance as well?
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=44545

Commentaire de cloudp

Ice lance is great.Good damage per mana if your target is frozen. However, you can use it in some other situations where it also proves usefull even without freeze:

-> To destroy Totems.
-> To counter a Warriors Spell Reflection. It barely tickles you and makes them waste it. This +fake casts= win.

Commentaire de Lindaron

Just got this ability yesterday night ... MAN this thing is powerful first i frost nova get a few crits before it breaks then deep freeze and i hit a few more and i won just by spamming icelance agianst a shadow priest. very fun cool ability enjoy!

Commentaire de Norrinir

With enough haste you should be able to cast another Ice Lance before the first one hits. Of course you have to be at maximum range (or near to maximum, depending on haste). Once you get enough haste, you will be able to do so called "double shatter" (or "double shatter combo") - casting Frostbolt and two Ice Lances before they get to the target; results can be very devastating.

Of course you can replace the 2nd Ice Lance with Deep Freeze for another shatter opportunity.

edit: added links

Commentaire de 315540

A trick is to get them rooted some way(Frostbite,Frost nova) then use a cast spell such as frostbolt, fireball. It will hopefully crit, then instantly use ice lance as it is going through the air. Voila 2 spells in 1 root

Commentaire de frmorrison

In 3.3, Ice Lance crits will proc Frozen Heart which reduces the cast of Frostbolt by 1 second. Very nice way to make FB back into PvE.

Commentaire de Schad

The Glyph Of Eternal Water will help making frost viable for PvE again
Still there need to be some changes ....

Commentaire de FlayOnDarkIron

Yo Ice Lance, im happy for you and imma let you finish, but Moonfire was the most QQ'd about insta cast spell of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Commentaire de 340239

For those of you mages who believe you need to cast out shatter combos to kill someone, give this technique a try. This of course assumes that you have Shatter Barrier talented.

You wait for them to break your barrier then you pop Icy Veins. You shoot an ice lance then deep freeze them. You then spam 3 to 4 ice lances (depending on haste) into the deep freeze, then right after it ends you frost nova and shoot two more ice lances. You have just depleted a good deal of their health with 6 or 7 ice lances without ever exposing your frost tree and while completely mobile. You can extend the instant flurry with a lucky Fingers of Frost on cone of cold proc or a Water Elemental freeze. This method I think truly uses Icy Veins to it's greatest potential and takes full advantage of Shatter. Also it is very efficient.

*Note* Against mages, priest, warlocks or anything that has an absorb shield, frost nova will not break until you get two ice lances that aren't absorbed, so make sure you take advantage of that. Keep spamming ice lances until their barrier breaks then deep freeze them and continue the cycle.

*Edit* Well, it has been Cataclysm for awhile, and this method is even more effective then when I wrote it, but according to the 4.3 patch notes, effects such as Frost Nova will now break from absorbed damage as if it were not absorbed, so you don't get your free lance spammage against shielded targets. Just treat it as if they weren't shielded; 2 lances, nova, repeat.

Commentaire de n4rt0n

Which makes easier to do damage when you're being focused or your shield breaks due damage, because of its instant cast and does 3x damage and results in high chances of crit (which is fairly a frostbolt non crit).

Commentaire de 333107

trainable at level 28 in cata beta currently but not final

Commentaire de Erethzium

Was in a BG today, and I swear to god, Ice Lance was hitting me for at least 4 or 5 thousand. (As a Shadow Priest, no less) Does it have a ridiculously high SP coefficient or something? Or lots of +damage talents for it?

EDIT: Downrating me for asking a question, are we? Yet the comment a little below me which is nothing but a single ellipsis is not downrated. <3 Wowhead!

Commentaire de StrangerWifCandy

Ice Lance is now learned at level 28, patch 4.0.1

An important thing to notice is that against frozen mobs, Ice Lance does roughly the same amount of base damage as Frostbolt at all equivalent levels. It's now best to think of Ice Lance as a cheaper, instant Frostbolt on frozen targets. Happy levelling.

Commentaire de 664324

Sadly Icelance is now the OP spell of the frost mage, 99% of mages you see in pvp just spam this @#$% constantly....the damage needs to be nerfed in half at the bare minimum....an instant cast spell should NOT hit as hard as this does!

Commentaire de TheDarkMagician

Love the sound!

Commentaire de Silbotronic

Expect this spell to crit you for ~20k dmg, even with resilience. Gotta love them developers.

Commentaire de kuska

I have 3k Resilience and got crit by this crap for 27k.

Speaks for itself.

Commentaire de 559799

this hits as hard as mortal strike o_o

Commentaire de 512599

is it just me or does this look like a DBZ kamehameha

Commentaire de 878014

Nicu

Commentaire de Angxia

The bane of every melee class. Except dk's.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Hey i was donig the math on icelance and noticing it hits for alot less damage then i calculated it would. Lookin at the spell it seems to only get about 10-15% of you spell damage. Any others have a more exact % of spell damage receaved?

Commentaire de Thottbot

remember just my thoughts and calculations...

formulas:
castingtime / 3.5 = procentage of +dmg recieved
castingtime = 1.5 (global on instantcasts)
tripple dmg when frozen

not frozen:
161-187 damage.
mindmg=161+(1.5/3.5 * +dmg)
maxdmg=187+(1.5/3.5 * +dmg)

frozen:
(hope that +dmg includes after tripple dmg else this would scale with gear like an wtfomg)
161*3 = 483
187*3 = 561
mindmg=483+(1.5/3.5 * +dmg)
maxdmg=561+(1.5/3.5 * +dmg)

now we calculate that we have like +500 ( easy ) and we calc on maxdmg for fun

not frozen:
187+(1.5/3.5 * 500)= 401,28
frozen:
561+(1.5/3.5 * 500)=775,29
i suppose if you use this spell you have atleast shatter and 100% critt with frost spells
so we can expect insane critts with this spells
circus 1.5k dmg instant cast no cooldown

for fun:
(if tripple goes after +dmg. i haven't tried this myself so i cannot say anything about it)
(187+(1.5/3.5 * 500))*3= LOL =1203,86

with arcane frost talents this would be like 3k dmg instant cast lol...

tell me if im wrong in this
(nothing like noob wrong mats reminder: havent tested it just doing the math)

Commentaire de Thottbot

I use this spell all the time as a frost/arcane or just plain frost its really good with 100% crit damage from frost spec 50% crit damage from arcane and arcane power which increases damage by 30% and crit chance against frozen targets increased by 50% in frost spec this instant cast hits 3.2k and without arcane power hits 2.6k. If your target is not frozen this spell is almost pointless sometimes unless you just want to finish off something. The damage is really low but it is an instant cast with no cool down. I can get up to 4 ice lances on a frozen target before the ice breaks. It is good for duels becuase it hits hard when target is frozen and is quick. the bolt of ice moves faster than a frostbolt so you can cast frostbolt than icelance to do fast damage becuase they will hit almost the exact same time. Another bonus of this spell is it has a very long range.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Currently I am operating under a 10/0/51 build and Ice Lance hits as follows:

Normal Hit against non-frozen target = ~300
Normal Crit against non-frozen target = ~600
Normal Hit against frozen target = 900-1000
Normal Crit against frozen target = 1800 - 2000

Maximum base damage on ice lance is 186, and if it hits for 300 it receives, from me, approx 124 damage.
My current spell damage bonus is 714 to frost which yields an approximate 17% bonus of the spell damage gained from gear.

This spell is not in anyway overpowered. If it were, it would have a chill effect of its own.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I could've sworn I read in a recent patch note that Ice Lance receives just a third of it's normal spell damage against non-frozen targets now. In other words it would get the full 43%, since it's an instant, only against frozen targets. Can't find any written evidence of it now though but I suppose I'll find out soon enough since I'm currently lvl 65.

Commentaire de Thottbot

in an ideal situation, this spell should be used at ranged distance against a frostbitten target. Cast frostbolt at the frostbitten target and then immediatly cast ice lance to get a super increase to damage.

in a dire situation, where your mana is low and if u get hit one more time you go bye bye, then it just comes in handy as a last chance spell. If your going down, get it a last shot.

Whenever your frost armor frostbites them, just take a couple of steps back, cast ur frostbolt and then your ice lance, they'll both get the increased crit chance and the ice lance will get the triple damage.
WHY?
because the spell checks to see if the target is frozen upon casting not upon landing, that is my theory on this. Or, the game just cant check fast enough and it takes at least a second to register that a target is no longer frozen; either way, it is a handy and nifty spell to use in certain situations.

Commentaire de Thottbot

that isnt correct, i'm sorry. when i use the trick as i and others have mentioned above, it works... i crit 2.4 k frostbolt and 2 k with icelance.. ON THE SAME FROZEN target.... and if i crit with icelance on non frozen, then its like 500-600....

Commentaire de Thottbot

cant wait for this spell great for PvP i am guessing

63 blood elf mage
ravenholt

frost mages ftw!

Commentaire de Thottbot

Freezing trap also triggers the +dmg effect

Commentaire de Thottbot

im a 63 mage and frankly cant wait to get this spell simply for 1 reason. Yes i know that you can frostbolt and icelance and probabaly do more then the standard frostbolt fireblast crit combo and thast good too but what i really love is the fact that now, whenever u see a shaman totem layed town and it might be grounding, you could just hit this spell and carry on. No more having to take 3 seconds to fire your wand or get the gut feeling that you just wasted that freblast. This, to me, is shaman bane.

Commentaire de Thottbot

OK, don't jump all over me for being an idiot, but I am arcane specced, and I want to know exactly what it means for a target to be "frozen." I don't know the difference between chilled, rooted, slowed, etc. For example, is a frost nova-ed target "frozen" (I would think so)? How about a target under the slowed effect of frostbolt? Or the slowed effect of ice armor?

In short, could someone please clarify what "frosty" effects comprise "frozen" effects, such that the 3x damage of this spell is implicated?

Commentaire de Thottbot

Just wondering can u kite whit this spell like elite/rare mobs or something like that :)

Commentaire de Thottbot

Sweet jeesus I'm level 62 and I dont have this spell hotkeyed! I didnt even know this spell existed - ffs it's probably been lurking in my spell book this whole time without ever being used.

EDIT: HAHA i just noticed its not available til level 66.

Commentaire de Thottbot

This is good against pillar humpers...

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Inflige 373 points de dégâts de Givre à une cible ennemie. Les dégâts sont doublés contre les cibles gelées.

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35 mètres (Moyen-long)

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n/d

GCD

1.5 secondes

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Valeur : 160 (Mod. SP : 0.378)
Multiplicateur JcJ : 1

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Valeur : 100
Multiplicateur JcJ : 1
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